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Desulfator for 12V Car Batteries, in an Altoids Tin

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After a year or so of reading and drooling over other people's wonderful

projects in these pages I decided to finally make one of my own. Here is my
first instructable, a version of the ever popular Battery Desulfator, which I built
in an Altoids tin.

First, some background:

My urge to build this project came when my wife's car refused to turn over
after a three day weekend away. Here in Tokyo, during winter, the
temperature can drop to the low 20's (F) at night and since we have no
garage, her car just has to endure the cold as best it can. Many people don't
realize that you don't have put up with repeated jump-starts or run to the
nearest garage and plunk down 7,500 yen ($85) for a new battery every time
this happens. Your old battery may just have built up a layer of lead sulphate
crystals on its plates and that is preventing the acid from contacting them over
their full surface area. This is caused by subjecting the battery to long periods
of insufficient charge, as in the cases of unplugged golf carts over the winter,
infrequently used automobiles, and PV systems that don't get enough sunlight
to charge their batteries. The result is a great reduction in the battery's ability
to produce electricity.

With a desulfator circuit you can reverse this process and rejuvenate the
battery to like new condition. You can also save money and prevent water and
ground pollution at the same time by keeping your old battery out of the local
landfill. As long as nothing is seriously wrong with the battery it can last many
times the two or three years that people typically use them. You can even get
free batteries from garages that routinely throw them away, desulfate them,
and never buy another battery again. Save money and help the environment -
now there's a green ecology scheme I can get into!

Most DIY desulfator circuits in use today can trace their roots back to an
article in issue # 77 of Home Power magazine written by Alistair Couper in
June/July of 2000. Many versions were spawned by his design but they all
accomplish the same thing, that is, they use various pulsing circuits to force
the lead sulphate crystals back into the electrolyte thus rejuvenating the
battery and restoring its lost capacity. The version I chose uses an NE555P
timer chip for the multivibrator front end and two coils, a low ESR cap, a fast
diode, and an N-channel MOSFET (hereafter referred to as a FET) to
generate the high voltage (50V) spikes in the output. Credit goes to Ron
Ingraham for changing the design to use an N-channel FET instead of the
harder to find and more expensive P-channel types in the earlier versions.
Along the way I couldn't resist adding a few tricks of my own to make the
design more convenient. See this link for a description of the theory
(http://www.dallas.net/~jvpoll/Battery/aaDesulfatorSurvey.html) and other
information on desulfators.

This circuit can be used three ways - as a standalone device powered by the
battery under test; as a standalone device but used in parallel with a battery
charger; or built into a charger so that the two work together as one. I chose
the third option for my circuit but added a switch so I can use either device
independently. Mounting the device onto my charger also allowed me to use
the charger's output cables for both functions and avoid the tangle of wires
that inevitably results at the battery.

Once properly adjusted, the desulfator can be left on permanently whenever

the charger is charging. Just be aware that no matter what configuration you
choose, the desulfator is powered by the battery under test so if you use it
without a charger care must be taken to avoid deep discharging the battery.
High power
(http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/desulf.htm) versions
of these circuits can be built for off-grid solar-cell systems as well where many
batteries are typically arranged in series/parallel banks and attached to
inverters to produce 120V AC. These battery banks can be desulfated en-
masse while being charged by their solar arrays for a truly self-maintaining
system minus the periodic checks for electrolyte level, as long as the
desulfator circuit is scaled up in size sufficiently.

The Altoids can is the perfect box for this project as the circuit neatly fits
inside it and the metal construction can shield much of the RFI that may be
emitted by the output stage. You can't beat the price of these tins, and they
even come with free mints, or do the mints come with a free tin, I forget... ?

So with the background out of the way, let's get to work!

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Step 1: Circuit Schematic and Parts List

Here is the schematic and parts list, along with some of my pencil notes.

The list is complete except for some parts (two pots, two resistors, two
switches, a LED, a FET and some grommets and pop-rivets) that I salvaged
out of my junk box. Feel free to do the same, just keep to the values on the
schematic as much as possible. Please note that C4, a 100uf 25V electrolytic
capacitor, must be a "low ESR" type (Equivalent Series Resistance) to limit its
tendancy in this application to get hot. If you choose to use trim pots instead
of resistors for R2 and R4, as I did, be careful with the adjustments as C4, D2,
L1 and L2 can get very hot if the 555 chip is made to send too wide a pulse
into the output stage. The resistor values in the schematic should program the
555 chip to output pulses of the proper width and limit any excess heat
buildup, however. We'll discuss this further in the Smoke Test Steps.

The LED can be any standard type and will only turn on when pulses are
present in the output. S1 should have at least a 3A rating, and if you use a
DPDT type use both sets of contacts in parallel to reduce the contact
resistance as much as possible. S2, at the output of the 555, isolates the 555
from the output stage allowing you to make adjustments to the front end
without risking overheating Q1, D2, C4 or the inductors.

The inductors I chose are listed on the schematic at the bottom of the
"Possible Inductors from Digikey" list. They fit the can nicely but will need to
have one lead extended slightly to reach the bottom of the circuit board. In
retrospect, an inductor with a slightly higher current rating for L2 might be
better as the one I chose gets noticably hotter than L1 even though it has the
same current rating of 2.4A. Digikey part number M8875-ND should fit the
can, barely, and has a 3.6A rating, but the 2.4A coil that I'm using now really
only gets hot if I get too aggressive with the pulse width adjustments.

D2 is a FRED (Fast Reacting Epitaxial Diode) and should not be substituted

with any old diode in your junk box as the latter will probably not work well in
this circuit. If it gets too hot you can use two in parallel to double the current
capacity, but again, if you keep the pulse width on the conservative side it will
only get slightly warm.

The FET listed works very well and is inexpensive. I mounted mine directly on
the perf-board with a piece of stick-on copper foil (available from Digikey)
under it to act as a heatsink. In this configuration it doesn't get warm at all so
the copper foil may not actually be needed. Be aware that the metal tab on
the FET is also attached to pin 2 (drain) so if you attach the FET to a heatsink
you'll have to electrically isolate it from the rest of the circuit. I also used a TO-
220 transistor socket to allow easy replacements but you can wire the FET in
directly if you prefer. Just avoid touching pin 1 (gate) while handling it as it is
very ESD (static) sensitive.

Also, I opted to use the "Turn-off Enhancement Circuit", shown in the

schematic as Q2, D3, and R5, as it helps the FET to turn off more precisely. If
you use these parts do not use C2 and R3.

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Step 2: Build the Box and Start Your Layout.

First, you should cut a piece of perf-board (aka breadboard) the same size as
the inside bottom of the can, minus a wee bit for wiggle-room, with a coping
saw or jig-saw. Use a disk sander, if you have one, or a sanding block if you
don't, to clean up the edges. You'll find that the fiberglass board cuts and
sands easily. If sized correctly, the circuit will sit nice and snug inside the can
with no mounting screws or other hardware needed to hold it in place, yet be
removeable for fit tests or repairs if needed.

Next, place the parts loosely in the Altoids can to get an idea of where you'd
like to mount them. My layout roughly follows the schematic and limits the
number of jumper wires needed to make connections. I'm sure there are
better layouts but what you see worked well enough for me so feel free to
copy it.

Early on I'd planned on bolting the FET to the lid so the lid could act as a
heatsink but this turned out to be unnecessary. There's just enough room on
the perf-board for it and a socket, and since it doesn't get hot at all, no
additional heatsinking is required.

You'll need to insulate the metal can from the circuitry by cutting some thin
cardboard to cover the bottom, lid, and sides. The "wiggle-room" mentioned
above is to allow space for the cardboard sides. Later on, you'll mount the
cardboard in with double-stick tape but for now leave the cardboard out while
you drill the holes in the can.

The output wires will exit a 5/16" hole in the left side, and in this hole you'll fit
a 1/4" rubber grommet. Start small and go gradually up in size with the drill
bits as the metal is thin and soft and bends quite easily. Remove the flash
with a countersink bit, if you have one, or a larger drill bit twisted with your
fingers. Use something round and hard, like the shaft end of a large drill bit or
the ball end of a small ball-peen hammer, to flatten the holes after drilling.
Don't forget to allow room for the lid which overhangs the sides a 1/4" or so.

The vent holes around the right side are 1/8" diam and spaced about 1/2"
apart. A center punch helps a lot here but a nail works as well to dimple the
metal a bit to better aim the drill. I also drilled a hole in the lid for the LED so I
can see it when the lid is closed. You can do the same but you'll have to
measure carefully where it will go after you decide where to put the LED in
your layout. Mine fitted nicely inside L1. You'll have to also punch a hole in the
lid's cardboard liner for the LED to shine through.

Place the cardboard side strip in the can and tack-tape it in place, then use a
pen to mark the holes from outside the can. Use a hole punch to punch holes
in the cardboard exactly over the marks you made.

If you decide to mount the can to the back of your charger you'll need to drill
four more holes in the bottom for whatever fastening hardware you want to
use (I used pop-rivets). You can also make the circuit separate from your
charger but you'll have to add lead wires and some clips to attach the circuit to
your battery. The parts list shows some clip parts that I used but you may
prefer larger ones. The lead wires should be made of at least 16 ga flexible
wire, thicker if you can get it, and as short as comfortably possible to avoid
losses at the battery. Even if you plan to wire your circuit into your charger it's
a good idea to make temporary leads with clips so you can debug the circuit
before permanently mounting it.

Once the holes are punched you can double-stick tape the cardboard strip
and lid pieces in place and fit the grommet. For now, don't tape the bottom
piece in, just use it as an insulator as you build and troubleshoot your circuit.
This will allow you to pop-rivet the can onto the charger when the time comes
and you can then tape the cardboard in permanently over the pop-rivets. If
you don't plan to mount your can onto your charger then it's OK to go ahead
and tape in the bottom piece.

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Step 3: Build Your Circuit.

On small one-off circuits like these I don't bother with designing printed circuit
boards. I just wire them up on perf-board using the cut off leads of the various
components to solder them together in a kind of "connect the dots" fashion.
Keeping the layout in roughly the same order as the schematic helps to
visualize the top and bottom of the board as you assemble it. For the longer
runs use 24 ga hook-up wire or some cuttings from a telephone cable if you
can find one.

It's important to use a good quality soldering iron with a thin tip and good
60/40 solder as it gets a bit cramped, especially around the 555 chip socket.
Definitely use a socket for the chip as you can easily overheat the chip during
assembly and troubleshooting. Small needle-nosed pliers will help with
manipulating the leads and in holding them in place for soldering.

I used SMT parts for the electrolytic caps because they were the smallest low
ESR caps I could find. If you use the same ones solder your own leads onto
the pads and wire them up as if they were normal discrete components paying
attention to the polarity (see schematic).

Once you know exactly where to put it, glue the FET socket to the perf-board
with CA glue. I used a nylon bolt to bolt the FET down but as long as the tab
is isolated from the rest of the circuit any small bolt will do.

I also used a strip of stick-on copper foil, cut from a 6" wide sheet, along the
bottom edge for a ground bus. Digikey sells the sheets by the foot and it's
marvelous stuff as it can be used for making ground planes, RFI shields,
heatsinks, and many other uses. My wife enjoys making stained glass items
and the rolls of copper foil she uses are also perfect for this task. You can
pretty much make your own "printed" circuits with these rolls, sans the etching
steps, if you like, but it's not necessary with this circuit.

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Step 4: Smoke Test 1 - Pots Instead of Fixed Resistors for

R2 and R4

It's time to test your handiwork!

For those of you who used fixed resistors for R2 and R4, skip this step and go
on to the next step, Smoke Test 2.

For those of you who used pots instead of fixed resistors for R2 and R4:
First, turn off S2, put a 555 chip in its socket and a 2A fuse in the fuse holder.
Set the pots to their mid-range and attach the plus lead clip of your circuit to
the plus terminal of a 12V battery. Attach the ground lead clip of your circuit to
the minus probe of a multimeter, and set the multimeter to the 10A AC scale.
Briefly touch the plus probe of the meter to the minus terminal of the battery.
Check for smoke. No smoke? Good! Try it for 5 seconds, then 10 seconds.
Still no smoke? Great!

Check the 555. Hang a scope probe (if you have one) on pin three of the chip
and check for pulses. Adjust R4 for peak output at around 1000 Hz (the exact
level isn't critical).

Now check the output stage. Turn on S2 and briefly touch the plus probe of
the meter to the minus battery terminal. You should see a brief spark and hear
a faint 1000 Hz tone come from the coils. The LED will turn on in the presence
of output pulses. If it doesn't, but you hear the tone, then the LED may be
mounted backwards. If you don't hear the tone, or see smoke, then something
is wrong and you'll need to check your output stage wiring.

If the fuse blows try adjusting R2 down a bit (the direction of turn depends on
how you have it wired). Smile when you get the meter reading below 0.8A --
you're almost there!

If all is good then adjust R2 so the meter shows no more than 0.7A on the AC
scale. This should yield a good output into the battery without overheating the
output stage. Finger test the coils, C4, FRED, and the FET. If all are no more
than slightly warm after 30 minutes then you're in the clear. You can
SLIGHTLY increase the pulse width and the current into the meter a little at a
time until the circuit reaches about 1.0A but at this level my charger won't flip
into trickle charge mode because the combined currents of the circuit and
charger are beyond its trickle threshold. I therefore keep it at around 0.7A.
Anything beyond 1.0A gets a bit too toasty after a night's use anyway. Also
note that the circuit will tend to consume 0.2A to 0.3A more current and get
hotter when the charger is on high charge rate. It's therefore best to stay at or
below 0.7A to prevent the current from getting too high as the charger adjusts
its charge rate from high to low. Be conservative, especially with an
undercharged battery because as the lead sulphate crystals dissolve into the
electrolyte the battery voltage climbs and this increases the current and the
heat dissipated by the output components.

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 Step 5: Smoke Test 2 - Fixed Resistors.
For those of you who used the resistor values in the schematic:

First, turn off S2, put a 555 chip in its socket and a 2A fuse in the fuse holder.
Attach the plus circuit lead clip to the plus terminal of a 12V battery. Attach the
ground lead clip of your circuit to the minus probe of a multimeter, and set the
multimeter to the 10A AC scale. Briefly touch the plus probe of the meter to
the minus terminal of the battery. Check for smoke. No smoke? Good! Try it
for 5 seconds, then 10 seconds. Still no smoke? Great!

Check the 555. Hang a scope probe (if you have one) on pin three of the chip
and check for pulses. If you don't see them then check your 555 wiring.

Next check the output stage. With the meter and circuit wired as above, turn
on S2 and briefly touch the plus probe of the meter to the minus battery
terminal. You should see a brief spark and hear a faint 1000 Hz tone come
from the coils. The LED will turn on in the presence of output pulses. If it
doesn't, but you hear the tone, the LED may be mounted backwards. If you
don't hear the tone, or see smoke, then something is wrong and you'll need to
check your output stage wiring.

If you heard the tone then leave the battery connected a little longer and
finger test your output components to make sure they don't get too warm. If
they're still only warm after 30 minutes then you're in the clear and your circuit
is functioning fine. If you have a scope you can check the pulses at the chip
and the output but this isn't really necessary. Your meter should be indicating
something under 1.0A. If it shows more than that then you'll have to adjust the
value of R2 to get the output current down.

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Step 6: Hacking the Charger.

Any charger will do, mine just happens to be an automatic model from
CellStar made for the Japanese domestic market. If you decide to keep your
desulfator separate from your charger you can skip the Hacking the Charger
step, but you'll need to attach clips and output leads to your circuit so you can
attach it to your battery.

You'll need to drill six holes, one 5/16" diam for the leads to enter the charger,
one 1/2 " diam for the switch (if you use the same style toggle switch that I
used), and four 1/8" diam holes for the pop-rivets. Drill one pop-rivet hole, put
in a pop-rivet and mount the box to the charger, then drill and pop-rivet the
three remaining holes in succession. Be careful with the metal shards and
thoroughly blow out your charger with compressed air after you're done
drilling and shaping the holes. Also watch out that the drill bits don't
accidentally damage anything inside. One wire got caught in a bit when I did
this and had to be repaired later.

Mount your switch and put a 1/4" rubber grommet in the lead hole.

Wire up the switch per the schematic using both sets of contacts in parallel if
you use a DPST or DPDT type, and keep the leads as short as possible. This
switch also becomes a good place to hang a multimeter for checking the
current drain later on.

The final wiring step is to solder the leads to your charger's output wires. I
prefer splicing into the wires themselves rather than tacking on the circuit
board or internal components to avoid damage to those components. The
output leads should be quite thick so care must be taken when splicing into
them. Partial dissassembly of the charger may be required as well. Be
thorough with the solder but don't overheat the insulation. Cover the splices
with 1/2" diam heat-shrink tubing and shrink them down with a heat gun.

FYI: Sometimes a hair blower will suffice for a heat gun if you use or make a
nozzle with a 1/2" x 2" slit opening. The over-temp sensor that all hair blowers
have may shut down the blower after a few minutes but you don't need to
keep it on very long. Use the blower's high heat and low fan settings if you
can. Failing that, I often use a monokote heat gun normally used for building
model airplanes as it's cheap ($20), reliable, and comes with the right sized
nozzle. You can buy them online or at any hobby store.

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Step 7: How Well Does It Work?

At this writing my circuit has only been in operation three days on a 95AH
sealed car battery that a friend gave me almost two years ago. Its fully
charged no-load voltage has climbed several tenths of a volt in those three
days, which I consider a good sign. When it is ready I plan to put it in my
wife's car and remove her battery so I can test the circuit on it in my relatively
protected but unheated hobby shack. Therein lies a problem. Lead-acid
batteries (and desulfators and chargers, for that matter) work best when the
battery is warm. A cold day can sap 50% or more of the charge out of your
battery. Because I don't have a warm garage I may just have to wait until
warm weather returns before I can fully do the circuit justice in testing it.

My Internet sources tell me that batteries may take a month or more to

reverse the effects of heavy sulfation. However, they also say that heavily
sulfated batteries are fully restorable and that patience will be rewarded with a
battery that can be put back into service instead of on the scrap heap. This
site offers some tips
(http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/hints.htm) on the
general use of desulfators. Use these tips at your own risk!

This page has a wealth of info

(http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/lowpower.htm) on
similar designs and a link for a peak detector circuit that can help you plot
your battery's improvement over the course of treatment. I've not tried this
circuit so can't comment on how well it works. The page also has a link for a
FAQ (http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/faq.htm) that can
help you answer some basic questions about desulfator circuits in general.

Dsiclaimer:
Please be aware that I present this instructable to you to use with an
Attribution Non-commercial Share Alike license. Use it at your own risk! While
the circuit is not particularly dangerous, you will be using it around lead-acid
batteries and relatively high voltages and currents. Deeply discharged
batteries have been known to explode in the presence of sparks due to high
hydrogen outgassing. Similarly, a battery accidentally or deliberately shorted
can be extremely dangerous! I take no responsibility for your use, misuse, or
accidents resulting from or involving any attempt to use this information.

Good luck with your desulfator! I invite your comments. If you build one, send
me an email. I'd love to hear from you!
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Step 8: Update:
It's been over a month now and I'm happy to report that my desulfator circuit
is working well! My battery now charges to over 13.4 volts after a full charge.
Before desulfator treatment it would not rise beyond 12.7 volts. This is a very
good sign meaning that the plates are now much cleaner, the electrolyte is
now contacting their full surface area, and that full electricity production has
been restored. I kind of wish I could verify this visually but I can't due to the
battery being a sealed type. For now, I'll have to be satisfied with just reading
the improvement in my voltmeter.

Some notes:

1. During testing I found that my charger has no real trickle rate mode and
instead stops the charge entirely when it decides that enough charge has
entered the battery. Call it an idle state instead of a trickle rate. If left like this,
after a full charge the battery voltage will slowly drop to about 12.2 volts within
a week or so (further if I let it), which I assume is a reflection of the battery's
natural decay rate plus the amount of charge being consumed by the circuit
itself. I therefore, every few days, top off the battery by turning the charger's
power switch off, then on again to restart the high charge rate. A few hours
later I make sure that the red LED has turned off and the green LED has
turned on meaning that the charger has finished the charge and gone back to
its idle state. The desulfator is then free to do its thing without interference
from the charger.

2. There is a marked drop in pulse peak voltage from about 50 volts,

measured at fuse F1, to about 36 volts measured at the battery. This is due to
losses in the cabling going to the battery. You can limit these losses by
keeping the cables as thick and as short as possible. 12 or even 10 ga wire is
not too thick as long as you can solder it and it is flexible enough to not make
the circuit unwieldy. If you use thinner wire just know that the circuit will still
work but that the reduced voltage at the battery will take longer to recondition
it. My thanks to DRZCYY for bringing this to my attention.

3. Use of wire loops to hold down the two coils can simulate a shorted winding
in the coils and result in slightly reduced output. It's best to use plastic or
nylon tie wraps for this purpose. My thanks to EDTEK for this tip.
I'm working on some improvements to the design and hope to offer a printed
circuit board in the near future. Check back here for further updates.

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(/member/aaronhernan/) aaronhernan (/member/aaronhernan/) Question 7 months ago

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My diode (and almost all) has a lower voltaje drop than the LED and dont turn on. The LED is
in parallel with the diode. I supouse that the LED is drawed backward, isnt it? Please
someone answer me, i am not crazy, i checked several times the LED datasheet and
Anode/Cathode theory. Should the LED brigth only when the voltaje on the diode is forward
biased or when it is reversed biased?

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(/member/Agelosp/) Agelosp (/member/Agelosp/) 1 year ago

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I purchased this (link in the end) item from ebay. whan i connect it to a specific battery (not all
of them) and then connect the power supply (12v 2A) i get a blinking led and i don't know if
this is good or not. any ideas ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-volts-lead-acid-batter... (https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-volts-
lead-acid-battery-CHARGER-DESULFATOR-7-30-Amps-BATTERY-
assembled/172977685347?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%
3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)
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(/member/aaronhernan/) aaronhernan (/member/aaronhernan/) 1 year ago

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Why is the timing capaitor connected to POSTIVE? I always see it connected from THR TR
to GND. Works same way?

(/member/baecker03/) baecker03 (/member/baecker03/) 1 year ago

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works, however I'm going to have to adjust the pulse height to get better effect. Burn mark is
from a irfz44 that burned up during diagnostics... :(
To be honest, the fuse blew and I wanted to let the smoke out.

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 (/member/baecker03/) baecker03 (/member/baecker03/) 1 year ago
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successfully built circuit on a breadboard.. didn't test more than 10-20 sec, as i don't want to
risk having the board melt. around 1khz, any capacitors will work for the ones not calling for
low esr. I had some 100 uf caps I bought a while ago which were lower esr than most,
however the exact value I do not know. ended up having to daisy chain two inductors, as I
didn't have a value around 220 uH, and I didn't feel like wrapping inductors all night.
completed in about 2-3 hours, including testing etc and double checking everything. my parts
drawer is a mess, so you may have it done quicker. anyhow, thanks for the able, will take my
scope out to the garage tomorrow and check the frequency.
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(/member/kmpres/) kmpres (author) 1 year ago

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I've not tried other values for C4 so I don't know whether a 450uf 16V cap will work or not.
However, for safety's sake, I would say that 16V is too low as the circuit may experience 20V
DC or more if the battery were to become disconnected and the trickle charger left in. Most
trickle chargers do not have regulated outputs. 450uf is also more than four times the original
cap's capacitance rating. It's not there to filter out ripple so you can't just increase the value
without affecting the circuit's frequency characteristics. Also, a low Equivalent Series
Resistance rating is necessary to limit the heat dissipated by the cap when the circuit is in
operation.
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(/member/UzumakiN4/) UzumakiN4 (/member/UzumakiN4/) 1 year ago

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Thanks for this wonderful circuit I built one of your circuit. And it is
working fine I heard the tone and LED turns on. I do measured at output .699A .My
concerned now is it fine to replace C4 value to 470microfarad/16v Low ESR .
The caps on my circuit now is not a low ESR...Thanks...

(/member/pjgbg/) pjgbg (/member/pjgbg/) 2 years ago

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Interesting and valuable project indeed :) some questions on my first build. What type of FET
is critical for the circuit to work? The IRFZ44V is not common in large parts of world anymore,
the STP55NF06L I had at hand obviously not working (logic FET). Regarding the R2 how low
can the value be set? Low value=low output amps? If the tone is not produced=not working
circuit? my inductors is contracting heavily without any tone. Thanks for the good work and
excellent presentation!
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(/member/jassing/) jassing (/member/jassing/) 3 years ago

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Could one add a simple low-voltage-disconnect (via mosfets or relays) between the
desulphator and battery? So you could hook it up and walk away; and know when you
returned, it would not have drained the battery completely... Say disconnect at 10.5v? Or
would running thru a relay or mosfet negatively effect the pulse?
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(/member/kmpres/) kmpres (author) 3 years ago

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Just so you know, Mark, I never listen to these "short" presentations for more than a few
seconds because they are always too long and always full of empty promises. The catch at
the end where I have to buy something is the final insult so I just turn them off. No offense,
but I'd rather use my time more efficiently and build something I know will work, like the
above instructable.

(/member/career707/) career707 (/member/career707/) 4 years ago

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Just an update to my problem while setting the amps (R2) my multimeter was In DC mode,
ensure Amps Mode on the multimeter is set to AC, it wasn't until I read this real good
instructable carefully that I noticed my error,

(https://cdn.instructables.com/FVJ/Y1VG/I6004ACX/FVJY1VGI6004ACX.LARGE.jpg)

(/member/inswlkes/) inswlkes (/member/inswlkes/) 4 years ago on Introduction

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Hi @kmpres I'm having similar problems that @career707 reported of extreme heat at just
0.7A Wonder if you would explain your comment... "Check the noise level of the signal going
into the FET". Thanks.

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