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Benson Yeo's Books


existentialistalbert « on: January 19, 2015, 04:50:20 PM »
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Many thanks to @Axis for compiling interesting articles by Benson Yeo.


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Those who have not read his books b4
may want to click on the above link
for some background info on Benson Yeo's approach.

He has a very interesting interpretation of the interaction of the 10 heavenly stems


in his first basic book, 'The Correct Way of Understanding a Person's Destiny'.

I shall divide this thread into a number of entries


and may not strictly follow a chronological order.

1) His understanding of age duration / characteristics in 4 natal pillars:

Year Pillar: Overall character / 1 - 16 yo / Ancestors


Month Pillar: Family background / 17 - 32 / yo / Parents, Siblings
Day Pillar; Life, House, Marriage / 33 - 48 yo / Self, Spouse
Hour Pillar: Career / 49 yo ++ / Children

2) Heavenly Stems - outside


Earthly Branch - inside
Hidden Stem - hidden

3) Heavenly Stem combinations always result in


the formation of Yang elements Jia / Bing / Wu / Geng / Ren, not Yin.

4) Benson Yeo's understanding of the Noble Elements:

Jia: Ding + Geng


Yi: Bing + Jia + Gui
Bing: Ren + Xin
Ding: Jia + Geng
Wu: Jia + Ren
Ji: Bing + Jia + Gui
Geng: Jia + Ding
Xin: Ren + Ji
Ren: Bing + Xin
Gui: Ren + Bing
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existentialistalbert « Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 05:08:39 PM »
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Summary of the rationale behind noble elements:


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Last Login:January 29, 2019, 1) If u belong to daymasters Jia, Ding & Geng,
06:06:47 PM your noble elements are the easiest to identify.

These 3 heavenly stems form a favourable trinity.

Geng metal behaves like an axe, chopping thick tree Jia wood
to make it useful.
Ding fire burns BOTH the Geng metal to forge it into an axe,
as well as sets Jia wood on fire for all to benefit.

Bing fire is not useful because Bing fire represents the sun.
It is far hotter than Ding but cannot come down to earth
to literally burn Jia wood.

Jia wood can burn Ding fire hence producing it,


but cannot possibly produce Bing sun.

The tree cannot produce the sun,


but the tree needs the sun to grow.
So Jia for 'selfish' reasons welcomes Bing.

That is why when Bing appears in a Jia daymaster chart,


practitioners use negative words like, cunning, insincere, selfish.

Ding is a much better element to use compared to Bing


for the above reasons.

Hence, noble elements for


Jia: Ding & Geng
Ding: Jia & Geng
Geng: Jia & Ding

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These above 3 are the easiest to cover.


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existentialistalbert « Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 05:29:19 PM »
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2) If u belong to daymasters Bing & Ren:


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06:06:47 PM Noble element for Ren: Bing & Xin

Bing, as already mentioned, is the sun.


The sun's role is to make ocean water
warm and useful to grow crops.

Xin is Yin metal represented by minerals.


These will assist in making the quality of ocean water pure
via filtration to benefit nature.

3) If u belong to daymaster Xin:

Noble element for Xin: Ren & Ji

As already mentioned, Xin minerals purify Ren ocean


to make it benefit mankind.

Bing sun might be beneficial too,


but what's more important
is the presence of Ji earth, which is wet earth.
Only moist water trapped inside earth can produce Xin minerals,
and ensure Xin is in continuous supply.

Take note that Xin does not produce Gui water strictly speaking.
Instead, Xin traps Gui water deep below the earth!

What we call producing is actually controlling!

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Funny quote from Benson Yeo:

When u don't understand the interpretation,


you call it 'secret'.
When u understand it,
it's called 'knowledge'.

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existentialistalbert « Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 07:36:44 PM »
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Additional notes:
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Last Login:January 29, 2019, i) A warning for Xin daymasters:
06:06:47 PM
Xin is afraid of meeting Jia wood which is thick forest wood.

When Xin controls Jia, it is called a hard life based on


'The Classic of 10 Gods Structural Reading' by Benson Yeo.

Reason: Xin will never be tough enough to make Jia wood useful.

ii) A warning for Geng daymasters:

Based again on 'C10GSR',


Geng, strictly speaking, produces Gui water via condensation
but axe metal rusts as a result.
So the production is not noble.

Moreover, Gui, and of course Ren,


douses Ding fire, which makes Geng useful.

So having Gui & Ren is not necessarily favourable


for a Geng daymaster.

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Ji is wet earth, so it makes Geng metal rust too.


Bing fire is slightly more favourable as the sun causes water to evaporate.
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existentialistalbert « Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 07:58:04 PM »
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4) If u belong to daymaster Yi,


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u have 3 noble elements: Bing, Jia & Gui.
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06:06:47 PM Yi represents small shrubs, plants & flowers.

These need Bing sun to shine so photosynthesis can take place.


Jia wood, trees in the forest, provide support for vines
and general protection from storms.
Gui water nourishes the flowers through their roots.

PS: Based on C10GSR, when Yi produces Ding fire,


it is not noble. Flowers are meant to bloom, not to be set on fire.

5) If u belong to daymaster Ji,


u have 3 noble elements: Bing, Jia & Gui.

Ji represents the fertiliser / wet earth,


needing both Bing Sun for balance
& Gui water to keep it moist / nourished
so that Jia trees can benefit.

PS: Based on C10GSR,


Ding fire does not like to produce wet Ji.
Not noble as moreover it takes a long time
to accumulate dry earth, not wet.

6) If u belong to daymaster Wu,


u have 2 noble elements: Jia & Ren.

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Wu represents the mountain,


which requires forest trees to make
it look attractive,
and Ren ocean water to humble
its magnificent presence.

7) If u belong to daymaster Gui,


u have 2 noble elements: Ren & Bing.

Gui represents water vapour / clouds / small pockets of water.

Gui needs Ren ocean water to evaporate


under the hot sun Bing to form clouds.
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I read somewhere slightly different information. Didn't note title of book.

The book says size of the material doesn't matter, it is the quality.

Ji is sand, soil, mud (Soft earth).


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existentialistalbert « Reply #6 on: January 20, 2015, 04:28:02 PM »

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Quote from: ArtofFugue on January 19, 2015, 09:19:25 PM


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Karma: +468/-0 I read somewhere slightly different information. Didn't note title of book.
Last Login:January 29, 2019,
06:06:47 PM The book says size of the material doesn't matter, it is the quality.

Ji is sand, soil, mud (Soft earth).

Wu is pebble, rock, concrete (Hard earth).

Ren is liquid water, rain (flowing water).

Gui is ice/solid water (immovable water).

Hi Art if Fugue, thx for sharing.

Benson Yeo seems to suggest that sand / pebbles are already


on their way to become Xin metal, as Xin has the purpose of
'purifying' Ren ocean via filtration.

He interprets Xin metal loosely as minerals.


This can mean fine gold, precious stones, jade, crystal etc.
Weird.

As for Gui being ice, do let me know the title of the book
so I can search for it. I'm interested to learn.
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existentialistalbert « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 04:51:59 PM »
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Quote from: existentialistalbert on January 19, 2015, 07:58:04 PM


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Wu represents the mountain,
which requires forest trees to make
it look attractive,
and Ren ocean water to humble
its magnificent presence.

7) If u belong to daymaster Gui,


u have 2 noble elements: Ren & Bing.

Gui represents water vapour / clouds / small pockets of water.

Gui needs Ren ocean water to evaporate


under the hot sun Bing to form clouds.

I personally thnk there is a better explanation


for why Jia & Ren are noble elements for Wu earth.

Aesthetic appeal definitely does not amount to 'useful'.


Noble elements, IMO, are far more practical and important.

To prevent the Ren ocean of tsunami


from sweeping the Wu mountain away,
Jia forest trees need to be planted to control
(as in hold together0
the mountain earth to prevent soil erosion
from taking place.

I do not know why Bing sun is not mentioned


as a noble element since the sun both
helps evaporate ocean water
and allows trees to photosynthesise.

Instead, Benson Yeo mentions that Xin


seems to be a more noble element.
Maybe it's because Xin purfies Ren
and allows Wu to have an output of production.

Quote from: existentialistalbert on January 19, 2015, 07:58:04 PM

7) If u belong to daymaster Gui,


u have 2 noble elements: Ren & Bing.

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Gui represents water vapour / clouds / small pockets of water.

Gui needs Ren ocean water to evaporate


under the hot sun Bing to form clouds.

Benson Yeo also hints that Xin maybe also be


a noble element as it purifies Ren to benefit Gui.

But my question is, once the water evaporates,


aren't the impurities already left behind?
Why is there a need for Xin to purify beforehand?
Sorry, I'm not a scientist, so maybe I'm wrong.
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existentialistalbert « Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 05:36:25 PM »
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I have basically tried to cover some of the
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Last Login:January 29, 2019, in 'The Correct Way of Understanding a Person's Destiny'. (CWUPD)
06:06:47 PM
Will not elaborate too much for those of u
who want to read it for yourself.

IMHO, the introduction of CWUPD


was excellent in itself as it covers a fascinating history
of how Bazi came about.

But if u r looking for literary value / expressional perfection,


I'm afraid u would have to skip all his books.
Many of his phrasings and translations are
linguistically / poetically awkward,
and there are even quite a few blatant errors
that would shock most publishing houses.

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However, if u only understand English


and wish to grasp the main gist of
what the ancient texts / poetic metaphors roughly mean,
I would say go for it.
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existentialistalbert « Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 08:35:45 PM »
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More notes based on Benson Yeo's


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'The Classic of 10 Gods Structural Reading' (C10GSR):
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06:06:47 PM 1) Direct / Indirect Resource people
depend on external support
in the form of 'Gui Ren' - benefactors.
They need psychological dependence
and religious beliefs to sustain them.
Maternal care and academic pursuits suit them.

Favourable:
Get support from benefactors / superiors.

Unfavourable:
Face problems in education / career.
No maternal support.
Females have problems with children.

2) Direct Officer / 7 K people


thrive in career, reputation, power.
It also represents competition.
For females, it represents husbands / boyfriends.

Favourable: Great status.


Males will get along with children.
Female's husband will do well.

Unfavourable: Gossip and lawsuit / struggle for power.


Siblings quarrel. Female's husband will do badly.
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3) Direct / Indirect Wealth people


deal with property, wealth, paternal issues, marriage / girlfriends.

Favourable: Rich, woman-luck, good marriage, close to dad.

Unfavorable: quarrel over $, problems with dad.

4) Hurting Officer / Eating God people


deal with goals, ideals, plans, literature, technical skills,
public relations, travel.

Favourable: talented, smart, women will conceive easily.

Unfavourable: self-sabo, lawsuit, conflict, playboy,


females will harm husband.

5) Friends / Rob Wealth people


deal with support from peers, classmates, colleagues.

Favourable: Healthy competition.

Unfavourable: Friends become fiends,


petty betrayals,
conflict in business partnership,
harm from friends.

6) Conclusion:

There are natives whose 8 natal characters


do not follow any of the above 10 God structures.
This means to say that their heavenly stems & earthly branches
are not rooted, ie. do not connect / do not have identical elements.

People whose charts are not rooted


tend to have inconsistencies
between their actions / behaviour and their hidden thoughts / feelings.

On the other hand, having a rooted chart


may not be favourable to the daymaster
if chart structure is badly arranged ...

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Quote from: existentialistalbert on January 20, 2015, 04:28:02 PM

Hi Art if Fugue, thx for sharing.

Benson Yeo seems to suggest that sand / pebbles are already


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This can mean fine gold, precious stones, jade, crystal etc.
PRIVATE AND NON- Weird.
COMMERCIAL PRACTITIONER
As for Gui being ice, do let me know the title of the book
so I can search for it. I'm interested to learn.

Xin metal being precious stones, crystals is not weird. I've read in Lillian Too's book (IIRC) Xin metal being
diamond jewellery.

There are too many Bazi english books I read for free at kino. Bazi is like my 2nd interest.
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There are many sources, and one of which is 国学百科 - 癸水

You can also look at Ren Water in 国学百科 - 壬水


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existentialistalbert « Reply #13 on: January 21, 2015, 10:53:18 AM »
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Quote from: Jlim on January 21, 2015, 10:22:27 AM


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癸水雨露为泉水 霜雪结晶滴眼泪
Last Login:January 29, 2019, Gui Water is rain and dew, spring water, frost and snow, crystal, teardrop
06:06:47 PM
There are many sources, and one of which is 国学百科 - 癸水

You can also look at Ren Water in 国学百科 - 壬水

Hi JLim thx for the links.

Quote from: Kevin Chan on January 21, 2015, 10:40:18 AM

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i think he has a trip to Malaysia, timing un-confirm. May want to join his class and see...

Hi Kevin. U may want to check out the link below first.

The Correct Way

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A summary of The Direct Officer Structure
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'The Classic of 10 Gods Structural Reading' (C10GSR):

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06:06:47 PM Note: Benson Yeo's translation of this supposed classic
is obscure and many gaps are not explained clearly.

1) If Direct Officer is in month branch,


good to have Wealth & Resource in year / hour pillar;
better for Direct Officer not to be clashed / punished.

If Direct Officer & 7K comes together,


good will become bad.

If 7K transform to DO, auspicious.

Example:
Gui see Ji as 7K.
When Jia & Ji combine to become Wu,
Wu is the the DO to Gui: auspicious.

If DO become 7K, disaster.

Example:
Ren see Ji as DO.
When Jia & Ji combine to become Wu,
Wu is the 7K to Ren: disaster.

Must be strong to handle DO.


If Resource sits on Wealth,
or if Wealth sits on Reasource,
& no conflict (from both stem & branch),
one can enjoy honour & prosperity.

Example of conflict:

For Bing / Ding daymaster,


Yin clash Shen, Mao clash You.
(Metal cut wood good?)

For Wu / Ji daymaster,
Si clash Hai, Wu clash Zi.
(Water put off fire bad?)

Abundant Resource & DO is noble life,


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DO strong but weak daymaster will incur sickness.

Strong DO & daymaster can transform into Wealth


to benefit self.
Wealth strong but weak daymaster will incur sickness.

Example of transformation:

For Jia daymaster, Jia & Ji combine to form Wu,


which is Jia's wealth. (Same case for Yi.)

For Bing daymaster, Geng & Yi combine to form Geng,


which is Bing's wealth. (Same case for Ding.)

Hour pillar likes Wealth / Resource. (repeated)


Pure Qi in season (Mao You Zi) is noble,
but if repeated in the year pillar is too much.

If 7K appears to confuse DO,


life will be difficult and unsettled.

DO is kind, benevolent, literary (ruler of words)


provided Resource stem sits on DO branch.
(Can be applied stem to stem too.)
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Category 2: Wealth/Business/Investment/Legal Problem.
Category 3: Career Plan/Career Move/Job Promotion/Study.
Category 4: Health/Pregnancy/Children/Accident/Disaster.
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