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I N THE HI G H CO URT O F S O UTH AF RI C A

(W E S TE RN C AP E DI V I S I O N , C AP E TO W N)

C AS E NUM BE R : 12 2 7/ 2 01 3

D ATE : 24 FEB RUA RY 2 0 1 4

5 I n t he m a t te r be t we e n :

J AN LO HFE LDT Ap p lica nt

and

NE DB ANK LI MI TE D

AN D O NE O THE R Re sp o nd e nt s

10

CO URT AS S E MBL E S O N 24 FE BRUAR Y 2 0 1 3 : (a t 11: 1 9 )

UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : Ma y it p le a se th e Co u rt , M'L a d y. I

a p pe a r f o r t he f irst re sp o nd e nt in t his a p p lica t io n. I se e t hat

Mr L o hf e ld t is p rese n t in co u rt, M'La d y. Ma y I a sk th a t the

15 m a tt e r st an d do wn t ill t h e e nd of th e ro ll f o r a rgu me n t, u n le ss

t h e a p p lican t ha s a n yt h in g t o sa y.

MR L O HFE L DT : G o o d mo rn in g o n th is b ea u t if u l d a y.

CO URT : G o o d da y. Yo u ’re Mr L o hf e ld t? No , I su pp o se we

ca n de a l wit h it . It’s n o t a p rob le m.

20 MR L O HFE L DT : I wo u ld ju st li ke t o m a ke a n op e n in g st a t em en t

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Ye s.

MR L O HFE L DT : A s I 'm re p re sen t ing m yse lf . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Ju st h o ld o n. Mat t e r wa s p re vio u sly p o st p o ne d . O h,

25 t h is is a n ap p lica tio n f o r a re scission . A nd yo u , wh a t is yo u r

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p o sit io n?

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : M'L ady, m y in st ru ct io n s a re t hat

t o ha ve t h e a pp lica t io n d ism issed , an d f o r t he o rde r wh ich wa s

gra n t e d on t he 23 r d of Ma y (in d ist in ct ) t o be u ph e ld, a s we ll a s

5 t h e p ro p e rt y of t he f irst re sp on d en t , wh ich is t h e m o to r ve h icle ,

t o be re t u rn e d t o th e f irst re sp o nd e nt.

CO URT : S o we ’re d ea lin g wit h a mo t o r ve h icle he re .

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct . I ’d ju st like t o ma ke an

o p en in g st a t eme n t . . . (in t e rve n t ion )

10 CO URT : W he re is t h e m ot o r ve h icle a t t h e mo me n t?

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : M'L ady, it is m y in st ru ct io n s t h at

t h e m o to r ve h icle is st ill wit h t h e a pp lica n t .

CO URT : I se e.

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : Th e re h a s be e n m an y o cca sio ns

15 wh e re t h e sh e rif f ha s t rie d t o ob t a in th e m o to r ve h icle f ro m t he

a p p lica nt . Ho we ve r, t o n o a va il. T he re h a s b e en a lso a

crim in a l ca se be en o p en ed a ga in st t h e a pp lica n t b eca u se of

h is o b st ru ct io n to h a nd o ve r t h e mo t o r ve h icle , wh ich is t he

p o sse ssion – wh i ch is t h e p ro p e rty o f t h e f irst re sp o nd e nt,

20 Ne d b an k.

CO URT : An d wh a t t yp e o f mo to r ve h icle a re we t a lkin g

a b ou t ?

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : It is a T o yo t a Q u an tu m . I 'm

a ssu m in g it is a taxi va n .

25 CO URT : O h , I see .

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MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's in co rre ct .

CO URT : A nd wh a t is t h e a rre ars a t th e m om en t o n t he

ve h icle . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : T he a rre a rs i s a t R100 7 03 , 82 ,

5 M'L a d y.

CO URT : 1 0 0 78 2 (sic) . Mr L o h f e ldt, so – yo u m a y b e se a t ed .

Ye s? No w f irst I n e ed t o e st ab lish f ro m yo u . I no t e th at

B ro t h e r T h om a s sign e d so m e of you r p a p e rs. Do yo u a lso

b e lo n g t o t he O u r P e o p le …

10 MR L O HFE L DT : I a m A Pe o p le .

CO URT : Yo u a re A P eo p le .

MR L O HFE L DT : A n d I am a re p re se n t at ive of Mr L o hfe ld t .

CO URT : A n d d o yo u h a ve a ju ry h ere t o da y . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W ho is a le ga l f ict io n .

15 CO URT : Do yo u h a ve a ju r y h e re t o d a y? Do yo u h a ve o t h e r

m em be rs of Ou r P e o p le sit t in g h e re .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W e ha ve me mb e rs of th e ju ry p re se nt .

CO URT : T he re a re m e mb e rs of t he ju ry p re se n t

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

20 MR L O HFE L DT : T h at 's co rre ct . B e ca u se we ha ve b e e n

o b se rvin g p ro ce e din gs t h ro u gh t he last f e w m o nt h s.

CO URT : Yo u h a ve .

MR L O HFE L DT : W e ha ve .

CO URT : S o wh a t – ho w d o yo u re sp o nd t o t h is ca se ?

25 MR L O HFE L DT : I 'm on ly h e re t od a y b e ca u se , in it ia lly, t h e

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m a tt e r wa s se t down f o r, I t h in k, 3 r d of Fe b ru a ry.

CO URT : Ja ?

MR L O HFE L DT : A n d Ned ba n k a sk e d f o r a po st pon e me n t,

wh ich I gra n t e d t he m , be ca u se , a cco rd in g t o t h e Ru les o f t he

5 Co u rt , I d idn ’t (in dist in ct ) t o t he 1 5 da ys. I n t h e m e an t im e , th e

Un if ied Comm o n La w G ra n d Ju ry of S o u th Af rica ha s f ile d wit h

t h e Con st it ut io n a l Co u rt .

CO URT : I s t ha t m a tt e r pe n d in g . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : O f wh ich t h is m a tte r h a s be e n a llo ca t e d a s

10 a n an ne xu re a nd a sup po rt in g d ocu m en t . I h a ve go t a n

af f id a vit h e re , wh ich h a s be e n p ro of of it t h at it wa s s e rve d on

t h e Con st it u t io n a l Co u rt . T he y d id n o t re sp on d to us in t he

in it ia l 1 0 d a ys t h a t . . . (in t e rve n t ion )

CO URT : A re yo u su re t ha t m a tt e r wa s, in f a ct , se rve d ?

15 MR L O HFE L DT : No .

CO URT : Mr Lo hf e ld t ?

MR L O HFE L DT : Ye s?

CO URT : T h e Co urt is go in g t o a sk yo u ju st t o b e sea t ed f o r a

m om en t . W e ju st wa n t t o d o a f e w m o re ca se s, an d th e n the

20 Co u rt will gi ve yo u a f u rth e r he a rin g.

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Righ t ? Ca n we ju st p ro c e e d wit h t h e o t he r m a t te rs

in t h e me an t ime , a n d t h en we ca n re ve rt . Th e ma t t e r wil l ju st

st a n d d o wn f o r a sh o rt wh ile .

25 UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : A s t h e Co u rt p lea se s.

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M ATTE R S T AN DS DO W N (a t 11 :2 4 )

M ATTE R RE S UME S : (a t 1 1: 44 )

CO URT : Mr Lo hf e ld t , wh a t is yo u r d ef en ce t o th is mat t e r?

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, t he d ef e n ce in t h e m a tt e r is t h at I 'm not

5 h e re t o a rgu e . W e’ve o f f e red to s e t t le . It ’s t he sa me

a p p lica t ion th a t yo u ’re f am ilia r wit h , t h a t wa s se rve d on yo u in

ca se 51 1 1, to wh ich . . . (in te rve n t io n )

CO URT : W h ich ma t t e r a re yo u ref e rrin g t o ? 51 1 1?

MR L O HFE L DT : 5 1 11 / 1 3. Yo u m en t io ne d B rot h e r T ho m a s. I

10 t h in k yo u ’re p re tt y a w a re of t he m a t te r t h a t yo u p re side d o ve r

a f e w we e ks a go . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : No , I d o n ’t re ca ll a ll the ca se n u mb e rs

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I t ’s t h e sam e – I kn o w yo u d o n ’t , b e cau se

15 yo u h a nd le 1 3 0 ca se s so me t ime s on a d a y, on th e pa rt icu la r

d a y. T h is is t h e sa m e a p p licat io n – it ’s a n of f e r f o r se tt le m en t.

I h a ve a ske d Ne dba n k’s a tt o rne ys t o p ro vid e a n in vo ice , wh ich

t h e y co u ld n 't do so f a r. Th e y’ve a l so of f e red t o p ro vid e t he

o rigin a l co n t ra ct , wh ich I 'm a ssum in g is n ot he re in the

20 co u rt ro om t od a y, be ca u se t h e re ’s n o co n t ra ct a va ila b le . I f yo u

wa n t t o b rin g u p a ll t h e se p o in t s, I 'm willin g t o d o t h is a t t h e

Co n st it u t ion a l Co urt , b e cau se t ha t ’s wh e re it ’s a ll go in g, t h a t ’s

wh e re it ’s a llo ca ted , an d t he re we ca n a rgu e ou t a ll th e lit t le

n it t y-g rit t y o f a ll t he se ca se s.

25 CO URT : S o yo u a re f am ilia r wit h ca se 51 1 1?

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MR L O HFE L DT : I 'm ve r y f am ilia r wit h the case

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : S o yo u a re f a m ilia r t ha t so m eo ne a t – yo u a re p a rt

of , wh a t d id yo u sa y, O u r P e op le ? O u r P eo p le ?

5 MR L O HFE L DT : W e, t h e P eo p le .

CO URT : W e, the P e op le . W e re yo u a wa re t h a t so m eo ne

lo d ge d a co mp la int a ga in st m e a nd m y co n d u ct in cou rt a nd

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t is co rrect . I 'm a wa re of th a t

10 . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Yo u ’re awa re o f th a t?

MR L O HFE L DT : I'm ve ry a wa re of th a t .

CO URT : So , in th e circum st an ce s, I 'm go in g t o p ro po se that

t h is m a tt e r b e de alt wit h b y o n e o f m y o t h e r co lle a gue s. A re

15 yo u a va ila b le t om o rro w or W ed ne sd a y? W hen a re yo u

a va ila b le ? I 'm t ra n sf e rrin g t h e mat t e r t o o ne of my o t h e r

co lle a gu e s.

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Ja .

20 UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : M'L ad y, I am a va ila b le to mo rro w.

CO URT : Sh all we ro ll it o ve r t ill t o m o rro w then

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I’ll b e a va ila b le to mo rro w a s we l l, ja .

CO URT : W ho will b e – W a yne , wh o wi ll b e d o in g m o t io n co u rt

25 t o mo rro w?

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DI S CUS S I O N A SIDE

CO URT : S o we ’ll p o st po n e t he m a t te r t o be .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Ma y I ju st a sk . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Ye s?

5 MR L O HFE L DT : Fo r wh a t re a so n – re a son s wh y yo u ’re n o t

p re si d in g o ve r t h e m a tt e r?

CO URT : Be ca u se a pp a re nt ly t h e re wa s a co m p la in t a ga in st

m e , a nd a su gge st io n wa s m ad e th a t I wa s b ia se d .

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t is co rre ct.

10 CO URT : P rob a b ly in f a vo u r of th e b a n k, I wo u ld im a gin e , an d

Ne d b an k . .. (in t e rve n t ion )

MR L O HF E L DT : I wo u ld im a gin e so, t o o , ja .

CO URT : W as in vo lve d . S o I t h in k it wo u ld b e – in t he – the

b e st wa y t o d ispo se of t h is ca se , is if som e on e e lse d ea ls wit h

15 it , b e cau se it ’s Ned b an k a ga in . I wa s ju st t ryin g t o e st a b lish

wh a t t h e wa y f o rwa rd wo u ld b e wit h t h e ca se . S o …

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, t h at ’s wh y I 'm sa yi n g today

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : I do n ’t wa n t t o ma ke an y ru lin gs a n d d e cisio ns

20 . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I h a ve se rve d t o you …

CO URT : A n d t he n yo u ’re n o t h a pp y, a n d t h e n, yo u kn o w,

t h e re ’s an o th e r com p la int . . . (int e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I h a ve se rve d yo u af f id a vit s …

25 CO URT : Sa yin g I 'm b ia se d . B e ca use yo u – My P e o p le – yo u

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sa y M y P e o p le , yo u h a ve yo u r o wn c o u rt s, yo u h a ve yo u r o wn

p ro ce du re s, yo u h a ve a ju ry s it t in g a t t h e b a ck , an d if My

P e o p le f e e ls th a t I, a s a ju d icia l of f ice r, I 'm no t im pa rt ia l, t h en

I ca nn o t e n te rt a in a n y of yo u r ma t t e rs in f u tu re .

5 MR L O HFE L DT : B u t yo u ’re un d e r oa t h h e re to da y.

CO URT : Ye s. B u t t he re wa s a co m p la in t – yo u a ct u a lly

re f e rre d t o th e ca se , an d t ha t ’s wh y I 'm a skin g yo u , yo u

re m em be r t h e ca se n um be r so we ll, so yo u – a re you a wa re

t h a t t h e re wa s a co m p la in t a ga in st me ?

10 MR L O HFE L DT : I'm ve ry a wa re of th e com p la in t , ja .

CO URT : Ja , e ve n a ll t h e mo re re a son wh e re yo u r – M y

P e o p le f ee l t h a t I a m b ia se d in t h e m a nn e r in wh ich I h a n d led

o n e pa rt icu la r m att e r, a n d I th in k it ’s ju st f a ir t o wa rd s yo u t h a t

so m eo ne e lse ra t he r d e a ls wit h t he m a tt e r . . . (int e rve n tio n )

15 MR L O HFE L DT : I ju st – I t h in k it ’s …

CO URT : B e cau se yo u m igh t ha ve t he sam e p e rce pt io n.

MR L O HFE L DT : I t is u nn e ce ssa ry t o go ba ck in to th e High

Co u rt t om o rro w, b e ca u se it ’s b e yo nd t h e ju risd ict io n . W e will

n o t se e rem ed y h ere , we ca n ’t – we d o no t ge t ju d gm en t .

20 CO URT : I am . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : S o t ha t ’s wh y it ’s b e e n r ef e rred t o the

Co n st it u t ion a l Court .

CO URT : Ja . Bu t I 'm d isqu a lif yin g m yse lf f ro m h an d lin g it

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

25 MR L O HFE L DT : A n d it ’s – o ka y.

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CO URT : B a se d o n t h e com p la int, o f wh ich yo u a r e a wa re

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : S o yo u ca n ’t m ake t h e ju d gme n t to d a y f or

t h e .. . (in t e rve n t io n)

5 CO URT : Ye s.

MR L O HFE L DT : Fo r t h e a pp licat io n t o b e re scind e d , t h e

ju d gm e nt , so it can t h en b e t ran sf e rre d f o r (in d ist in ct ) in t h e

Co n st it u t ion a l Court . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : No , n o, n o , I 'm n o t e ve n ge t t in g in vo lve d in t he

10 m a tt e r. I ca n n ot m a ke a n y ru lin g t o d a y, b e ca u se of t he

co m p la in t in t he ca se n um be r t h at yo u qu o t e d . I ca n no t

re m em be r t h e ca se n um be r, in wh ich . . . (in t e rve n t ion )

MR L O HFE L DT : 5 1 11 .

CO URT : A n a lle ga t io n wa s m a de tha t I wa s b ia se d. An d I am

15 wit h d ra win g m yse l f f rom t h e ca se tod a y, so so m e on e e lse wi ll

h a ve t o d e t e rm ine – so I 'm go in g t o h a n d th is f ile o ve r t o

wh o e ve r is d o in g t h e ro ll t om o rro w. T om o rro w will b e t h e 25 t h .

Righ t ? I 'm ju st a vo id in g a re pe t it io n, wh e re . . . (in t e rve nt io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y, f a ir e n ou gh .

20 CO URT : S a y, f o r e xa m p le .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Fa ir e n ou gh , ja .

CO URT : I ru l e a ga in st yo u in t h is m a t te r, an d t h en

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, we a lso …

25 CO URT : T h e re m igh t b e a n o th er co m p la in t to sa y I wa s

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b ia se d a ga in . Do yo u u n d e rsta nd . . .(in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W e, t he Pe o p le a lso t ry t o a vo id rep e t it ion ,

b e cau se n o w t h e re ’s b e e n va rio u s ca se s go in g o n wh e re it ’s

b e en re p ea t in g o ve r a n d o ve r, t h at t h e De pa rt me n t of Ju st ice

5 a re no w a ge n t to t h e ba n ks, an d t h is is wh a t ’s b ee n se en

a ro u nd t he wo rld , a n d th is is wh a t ’s b e en t ryin g – we ’r e t ryin g

t o e xp o se . An d I t h in k B ro th e r Th o ma s (in d ist in ct ) p e o p le

u n de r d u re ss. Th e re ’s n o p ro of , t h e re ’s n o e vid e n ce . Yo u

kn o w, o rigin a l co n t ra ct s d isa p p ea rin g, t h e b an ks t e llin g u s

10 t h e re is – t h e y b urn e d in a f ire . No o n e can p ro d u ce t h em .

T he re is 1 0 0 o the r re a son s an d e xcu se s f ro m t he b a n ks

re ga rd in g a ll t h e s e m a t te rs, a n d the re a re n o w co n st it u t io na l

m a tt e rs, b e cau se la st t im e wh e n I a p pe a re d he re in co u rt in

f ron t of Ju d ge B inn s -W ard , wh e n I a ske d h im, do I no t ha ve

15 a n y co n st itu t io na l righ t s, I go t a b la n k st a re . S o t h e re ’s

m o un t in g e vid e n ce n o w t h a t we ’re n o t f in d in g re med y h e re .

Yo u u n d e rsta nd ? I 'm willin g t o b e ba ck h e re to mo rro w, I wo u ld

p re se n t it in the sam e ma nn e r, but it is p a rt of t he

Co n st it u t ion a l Co urt (in d ist in ct ). A n d it ’s ve r y im p o rt an t t o u s,

20 t o t he e nt ire co un try, b e ca u se t he ban ks h a ve b ee n p lun d e rin g

t h is co un t ry f o r to o lo n g, in co llu sio n wit h t h e go ve rn m en t.

A n d I d on ’t kn o w h o w m u ch yo u kn o w a b o u t it , b u t it ’s ve r y

im p o rta n t . Yo u can ma ke h ist o ry a t so m e st a ge b y st ep p in g u p

a n d b e in g b e h in d T he Pe op le , n o t th e co rp o ra te go ve rn m en t.

25 A n d I kno w it re sid e s wit h in yo u , b e ca u se yo u com e f rom – yo u

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u se d t o b e a h uman righ t s a d vo ca t e. I s t ha t righ t ?

CO URT : O h , yo u ’ve re se a rch e d me .

MR L O HFE L DT : Ja , of co u rse.

CO URT : E ve n all t h e mo re rea son f o r me to re cu se m yse lf

5 . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I d o n ’t wa n t t o sa y (in d ist in ct ) . . . (int e rve n t io n )

CO URT : M y P e o p le p la ce d m e in th is p o sit io n wh e re I ca n n ot

e n t e rta in an y of t he ir m a tt e rs an y f u rt h e r.

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

10 CO URT : S o I 'm go in g t o ro ll it o ve r u n t il – n um be r 34 – le t 's

p o st po n e it un t il t o mo rro w. My a p o lo gie s t h at yo u h a ve t o

co m e b a ck.

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Unf o rt una t e ly . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

15 MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, I …

CO URT : Yo u ’ve qu o t e d th e ca se , yo u kn o w a b o u t the ca se,

a n d , u nf o rt u na t e ly, t h a t is t he ca se tha t cre a te d a p rob le m wit h

m y re la t io n sh ip a nd m y – t he p e rcep t io n of me in t he f a ce of

t h e – of O u r Pe op le .

20 MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Ye s. S o I d on ’t wa n t an y p ro b le m s . . . (in te rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, I d on ’t m in d co m in g ba ck t om orro w. I

m e an , it ’s .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Ja .

25 MR L O HFE L DT : I ’ve b e e n b a ck he re a lm o st e ve ry we e k. I t ’ s

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a lm o st like a se con d ho me . .. (in t e rve n t ion )

CO URT : P o stp o ne d – will t h a t b e the 2 5 t h ?

UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : T h at will b e th e 2 5 t h , M'L ady.

CO URT : Ju d ge Zo n d i.

5 MR L O HFE L DT : W ho is t he Jud ge to m o rro w?

CO URT : Ju d ge Zo n d i will b e . . . (in terve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Zo n d i?

CO URT : De a lin g wit h t o m o rro w’s r o ll, ye s. Ma t t e r t h e n so

p o st po n ed u n t il t he 2 5 t h of Feb ru a ry 2 0 1 4 . T h e f ile will b e

10 t ra n sf e rre d o ve r t o Ju d ge Zon d i . Th an k yo u .

MR L O HFE L DT : A lrigh t , t h a n k yo u .

M ATTE R S T AN DS DO W N (a t 11 :5 2 )

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THE HI G H CO URT O F S O UTH AFRI C A

(W E S TE RN C AP E DI V I S I O N , C AP E TO W N)

C AS E NUM BE R : 12 2 7/ 2 01 3

D ATE : 25 FEB RUA RY 2 0 1 4

5 I n t he m a t te r be t we e n :

J AN LO HFE LDT Ap p lica nt

and

NE DB ANK LI MI TE D

AN D O NE O THE R Re sp o nd e nt s

10

CO URT AS S E MBL E S O N 25 FE BRUAR Y 2 0 1 3 : (a t 12: 3 2 )

UNI DE NT I FI E D S PE A K E R : Ma y it p le a se th e Co u rt, M’L o rd . I

a p pe a r f o r t h e f irst re sp o n de n t in t h is a p p lica t ion f o r re scissio n

of a def au lt jud gme n t . T he a p p licant is p re se n t in co urt . T h is

15 m a tt e r wa s p o st po n ed ye st e r d a y by Ju d ge G o lia t h d u e t o a

ce rt a in com p la int lo d ge d a ga in st Ju d ge G o lia t h by the

(in d ist in ct ) P eo p le. S h e ha d t o re cuse he rse lf . So t he m a t te r

is p o st po n ed f o r t od a y f o r h ea rin g.

CO URT : Ye s, Mr L o hf e ld t ?

20 MR L O HFE L DT : G o o d mo rn in g.

CO URT : Ho w a re yo u ?

MR LO HFE LDT ADDRE S S E S CO URT : I ’d like t o m a ke an

o p en in g st a t eme n t, a s I 'm re p re se n t in g m yse lf . I , Ja n , of the

f a m ily, L o hf e ld t A P e o p le a nd S o ve re ign o n t h e la nd kn o wn a s

25 S o u th e rn Af rica , d e cre e a Comm on L a w Co u rt of Re co rd

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in t e rce ssio n. T h e la w o f t h e ca se is co m mo n la w. T h e la w is

d e cre ed b y t h e sove re ign . Yo u m a y p ro ce ed .

CO URT : L ist en , I ’ve re a d yo u r p a p e rs h e re . Yo u ha ve n o t

f iled a rep ly.

5 MR L O HFE L DT : I h a ve n ot f ile d a rep ly?

CO URT : H’m . A re p ly, yo u se e ? T h e re is t h e f o u nd in g

af f id a vit , a nd t h en t h e re is a n an swe rin g a f f ida vit , a nd t h en ,

af t e r a n swe rin g a f f id a vit , t h e ma ste r re p ly. B u t it ’s e n t ire ly

u p on yo u .

10 MR L O HFE L DT : I 'm o n ly h e re t o day n o t t o a rgu e , I 'm h e re t o

ju st inf o rm yo u th a t t h e ma t te r ha s be e n a llo cat ed t o t he

Co n st it u t ion a l Co urt f ilin gs, f ile d wit h t h e Un if ied Co mmo n L a w

G ra n d Ju ry o f So ut h e rn Af rica , of which I ’ve go t a co p y h e re . I

p a ssed o n e on ye st e rd a y t o Ju d ge G o lia t h . I d o n ’t kn o w if it ’s

15 p a rt of t h e f ile n ow. I f yo u wo u ld h a nd it o ve r. Th is is t he

f ilin g (? ) t h a t it wa s a cce p t e d , and t h is is t h e af f ida vit t h a t

go e s wit h it , a n d h e re is a p ub lic n o t ice t ha t I ’ve a lso t h is

m o rn in g se rve d on t he Ne db an k’s a t t o rne ys, Mo h amm e d a nd

Co in Ca pe T o wn , a n d a s we ll a s on t he re gist ra r d own st a irs.

20 No w it ’s b o t h go t st a mp s in h e re .

CO URT : B u t if . . .(in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : If yo u m igh t (in dist in ct ). I 'm no t h e re to

a rgu e n o w, b e cause t h is wa s o n ly f ile d la st we e k, an d t h a t t he

f ilin gs we re a cce p t e d a t t he Co n st itu t io na l Co u rt , b e ca u se a ll

25 t h e se f ile s, a ll t h ese m a tt e rs a re Con st it u t ion a l Co u rt m a tt e rs

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n o w, b e ca u se pe op le ’s co mm o n la w ri gh t s h a ve b e e n d e n ie d,

a n d t h is h a s be en d o n e la st we e k. I wa s a ct u a lly in t h e

p ro ce ss of . . . (int e rve n t io n )

CO URT : Bu t h ang o n , h a n g o n . Bu t wh y d id yo u ma ke th is

5 a p p lic a t ion he re .. .(in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I b ro u gh t .. .

CO URT : A n a p p lica t io n f o r re scissio n .

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct . Be ca u se , o b vio u sly, I

of f icia lly n e e d to re scin d th e jud gm en t t o – th is . . . (int e rve n t io n )

10 CO URT : S o rry …

MR L O HFE L DT : O b vi o u sly, t h is p u b lic n o t ice will a ls o e xp la in

t h a t a n y p ro ce e d ings ri gh t n o w n e e d t o b e (ind ist in ct ) un t il t h e

m a tt e r has be en re so lve d at the Co n st it u t ion al Co u rt

(in d ist in ct ) im pa rt ia l t rib u na l.

15 CO URT : W ha t is t h e – wh a t ’s the n am e of yo u r (in d ist in ct )

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t ’s t h e Un if ie d Co mm o n La w G ra n d Ju ry,

wh ich is m a d e u p o u t of W e, t he P e o p le . A n d it ’s a ve r y

im p o rta n t t h in g. I d o n ’t kno w h o w m u ch yo u ’ve h e a rd a b ou t it .

20 I b ro u gh t it a cro ss ye st e rd a y t o Ju d ge G o lia t h . S h e a ct u a lly

list e n e d me o u t . T h is is – it ’s a p eo p le ’s a sp e ct. I t co n ce rns

e ve r yo n e in t h is co u n t ry. I t ’s a b ou t t h e ba n ks, it ’s ab o u t t he

go ve rn m e n t be in g in co llu sio n , p lu nd e rin g t h is co u nt ry. And

I ’ve ju st se en yo u r b io , a ctu a lly, o n on e – a we b sit e ye st e rd a y.

25 Yo u sa id yo u co n sid e r yo u rse lf a se rva n t o f th e pe op le . So

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yo u co u ld m a ke a ve r y wise a n d h isto rica l d e cisio n t o da y.

CO URT : O ka y, a lrigh t , a lrigh t . Th a n k yo u , I ’ve h ea rd yo u .

L e t m e h ea r t he a dvo ca t e f o r th e re spo n de n t . . . (in t e rve nt io n )

UNI DE NTI FI E D S PE AKE R AD DRE S S E S CO URT : M'Lo rd , m y

5 in st ru ct io n s a re to p ro ce ed wit h a r gu m e n t. T he ma tt e r wa s

p o st po n ed b y t h e a p p lica nt f o r t o da y o n t h e 31 s t of Janu a ry f o r

a rgu m e nt . I h a ve p re p a red …

MR L O HFE L DT : O b je ct ion . It wa s p o st po n ed .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO UR T : S o rry, so rry, ju st . . . (in t e rve n t ion )

10 MR L O HFE L DT : B y t h e re spo n de n t .

CO URT : I ’ll gi ve yo u a n op p o rtu n it y. Ju st , ja , a llo w h e r t o …

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Fin ish ta lkin g n o w.

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : M'L o rd , m y in st ru ct ion s a re to

15 h a ve t h is a p p lica tio n d ism issed , wi t h co st s. T h e re wa s n o

in clin a t io n (? ) in th e a p p lican t ’s p a pe rs a bo u t an y m a tte r b e in g

t a ke n to t he Co nst it u t io na l Co u rt . T he a pp lica n t is wa st in g

t im e , a n d wa st in g t h e Co u rt ’s t im e . My in st ru ct io n s b a sica lly

is ju st t o ge t t h i s a p p lica t ion d ism isse d , wit h co st s, a nd f o r the

20 o rd e r t h a t wa s u p – t h a t wa s m a d e on t h e 2 3 r d of Ma y 2 0 13 , to

b e up he ld . Th is is a re scissio n of ju d gm e n t of a d ef a u lt

ju d gm e nt , M'L o rd . I t d o e s no t h a ve to go t o t h e Co n st itu t io na l

Co u rt . T h is Co u rt d o e s h a ve ju risd ictio n t o h ea r t h is m at t e r.

CO URT : O ka y. I d o n ’t h a ve the d o cu me n t s – so rry

25 (in d ist in ct ) t he do cu me n t s t ha t yo u sa y yo u sen t to th e

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Co n st it u t ion a l Court .

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t is co rre ct. I ’ve go t t h e m h e re wit h m e .

CO URT : L e t me h a ve a lo o k a t t h em .

MR L O HFE L DT : T h e y sh o u ld be p a rt of t he f ile, be ca u se I

5 p a ssed t h em o n to Ju d ge G o lia t h ye st e rd a y a s we ll. T h e re ’s

va rio u s t h in gs we ca n a rgu e h e re , b ut I 'm n ot h e re to a rgu e t he

p ro ce ed in gs in th is p a rt icu la r m at t e r, re ga rd in g ha vin g a

se ct i o n 1 29 no t ice se rve d – n o t se rve d t o m y n e w a d d re ss,

wh ich I ’ ve go t p ro of h e re it wa s. I t wa s a d e f a u lt jud gm e nt of

10 t h a t wa s (sic) – I wa s n o t inf o rme d . S o t h e re ’s a lo t of

m isco nd u ct t ha t h a pp e n s in a ll t h e se ca se s, co nce rn in g

h u nd re d s a n d t ho usa n d s of p e op le . ..(in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : A lrigh t . T e ll m e n o w – I h ea r wh a t yo u sa y. But

wh a t d o yo u wa n t t o d o wit h yo u r a p p lica t ion f o r re scissio n

15 t o d a y?

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, ide a lly . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : B e ca u se t h e re is t h is a p plica t io n wh ich yo u b ro u g h t

o n th e 3 1 s t of Jan ua ry t h is ye a r.

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct.

20 CO URT : T h at ap p lica t io n, a cco rd in g t o t h e f ile n o te s, wa s

p o st po n ed to t he 24 t h , th a t is ye st e rda y . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Ja . I ’ve se t it d o wn . . . (in te rve n t io n )

CO URT : A n d t hen ye st e rd a y it wa sn ’t .

MR L O HFE L DT : I ’ve se t it d o wn f or t h e 3 r d o f Feb rua ry, b u t

25 a cco rd in g t o th e Ru le s of th e Co u rt I d id n ot a llo w Ne db a n k 15

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d a ys t im e. I th ough t it wa s 1 0 da ys. I a ctu a lly a llo we d th em

1 3 da ys. Th e y th e n d em an d ed and a sked m e t o ren e w t h e

a p p lica t ion to se t it d o wn f o r a n e w da t e , wh ich wa s ye st e rd a y.

CO URT : O ka y.

5 MR L O HFE L DT : An d in th a t t im e we h a ve f ile d wit h t he

Co n st it u t ion a l Cou rt , a n d h a ve a llo ca t ed t h e se m a tt e rs a s

a n ne xu re s a n d su pp o rt in g d o cu me n t s t o th e m a in ca se.

CO URT : W e ll, t he re a re t wo t h in gs t h a t yo u can d o. W ell, do

yo u wa n t t o p ro cee d wit h t h is ap p lica t io n f o r re scission , o r do

10 yo u wa n t t o wit h d ra w it a n d go st ra igh t t o t h e Con stit u t io na l

Co u rt . . . (in te rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I wa n t t o wit h d ra w it a n d go st ra igh t t o t h e

Co n st it u t ion a l Court .

CO URT : O ka y. If yo u wa n t . . . (in t e rve n t ion )

15 MR L O HFE L DT : O b vio u sly, it wo u l d be in m y f a vo u r righ t n o w

if t h e a pp lica t io n co u ld b e re scin d ed , th e jud gm en t , b e cau se

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : W ould yo u – o ka y. Yo u r a p p licat io n f o r rescissio n ,

wh a t d o yo u wa n t t o d o ? Do yo u wa n t t o p ro ce e d wit h it , o r do

20 yo u wa n t t o st op , o r wit h d ra w it . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Th e a pp lica t io n I se rve d o n t he op p o sing

co u n se l a n d o n yo u , on t he Co u rt , I d o n ’t kn o w if yo u re ad

a b ou t it , it is – a ctu a lly, it ’s a se t t lem e nt of f e r.

CO URT : I t ’s a wh a t ?

25 MR L O HFE L DT : I t ’s a set t le me n t of f e r, that by

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. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : T h is is a n a p p lica t io n f o r re scissio n . I t ’s a n

a p p lica t ion to se t a sid e .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct. B ut in th e sa me run we a lso

5 – we ’re o f f e rin g t o se t t le , via t h e B ills of E xch a n ge A ct, in t he

sa m e wa y t h a t t he b an ks crea t ed (? ) t h e mo ne y in th e f irst

p la ce . Th a t is a ll in t he do cum e nt s. I t ’s a ll in d o cum e nt . I

d o n ’t kn o w if yo u h a d th e t im e t o go th ro u gh it . .. (in t e rve n t ion )

CO URT : No, no , I ’ve re a d , I ’ve re a d.

10 MR L O HFE L DT : B e cau se it ’s qu ite a su b sta n t ia l d ocu m en t,

a n d t h is ha s a ll com e t o ligh t no w in re ce n t – in th e la st ye a r.

CO URT : O ka y. W ha t is it t h a t yo u wa n t t o d o wit h t h is

re scissio n a p p licat io n ? Do yo u wa n t t o p ro ce ed ? B e ca u se

yo u a re t e llin g m e t wo t h in gs. Yo u a re sa yin g yo u h ave t a ken

15 t h is ma t t e r – yo u wa n t t o go st ra igh t t o t he Con st it u t io na l

Co u rt .

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct, ja .

CO URT : B u t n o w t h e re i s t h is ap p lica t io n wh ich is bef o re u s.

MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct.

20 CO URT : W hat do yo u wa n t t o do wit h it ?

MR L O HFE L DT : W e ll, I wa n t t h e ju d gm e nt re scin d ed , u n t il

the ou t com e at the Co n st itu t io n a l Co u rt , wh e n we

. . . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : B u t – no, n o , n o …

25 MR L O HFE L DT : W hen we can e st ab lish if th e re is a n y

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a lle ge d d eb t in a ny o f th e se ma t t e rs.

CO URT : W ell (ind ist in ct ) . . . (in te rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : Th is is wh a t th is is a ll ab o u t. B eca u se I

n e ed t o st op t he sh e rif f f rom a rre st in g m e, wh ich a lre a d y

5 h a pp e ne d , to come u n la wf u lly t o m y h o u se a n d rep o sse ss m y

go o d s o r m y ve h icle . W ell, we h ave n o p ro of , we h a ve n o

co n t ra ct , t h e re ’s no co n t ra ct in th e co u rt ro om , no o rigi n a l. I t ’s

n o t h e re .

UNI DE NT I FI E D S P E A KE R : M'L o rd , if I cou ld ju st

10 . . . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : I t ’s go ne m issin g. I m ea n , in a ll t h ese

ca se s, I ’ve go t th re e summ o n s . . . (in te rve n t io n )

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : (In d istin ct ) t h e ap p lica nt – t h e re

is a n in sta lme n t agre e m e nt . . . (in te rve n t ion )

15 CO URT : S o rry …

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : A co py o f t h e a gre e men t in t he

co u rt f ile . Th e a p p lica nt h a s a lso re ce ive d a co py o f t h e

in st a lme n t sa le a gre e m en t . We d e cid e d on t he 11 th of

No ve m b e r 2 01 0 . T h is a gre em e nt wh ich h e spe a ks of t h a t he

20 d o e sn 't h a ve an y kn o wle d ge of , he is in p o sse ssion of t h is

a gre e m en t , M'Lo rd.

MR L O HFE L DT : I t ’s a co p y. I ' m d em an d in g t h e we t in k

o rigin a l, o f wh ich wh e n yo u re a d t h e f ou n d in g – t h e a nswe rin g

af f id a vit , in t h re e ca se s I ’ve go t , t h e b a n ks, un de r o a th , p u t in

25 t h e ir swo rn a f f idavit t h a t t h e y ca n n o t lo cat e su c h agre e m e nt

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a t t he t im e . A nd t h is is (in d ist in ct) t h a t t wo p a rt ie s sign a

co n t ra ct , ea ch pa rt y h a s go t t h e ri g h t t o b e (in d ist in ct ). I 'm

a ct u a lly o n m y wa y wit h o n e of t he m em be rs of ou r gra n d ju ry

p re se n t to a n a tto rn e y (in d ist in ct ) o rigin a l d o cu m en ts, wh ich

5 a lso we n t m issin g ye st e rd a y.

CO URT : T e ll m e , h a ve yo u t ried to a p p roa ch t h e Le ga l A id to

a ssist yo u in th is m a tt e r?

MR L O HFE L DT : I h a ve n o t. I ha ve h a d a t t o rne ys, wh o cla im

t o be f o r th e p e op le , wh o a lso p ro ve d t h e y we re n ’t . Th at ’s wh y

10 we ’ ve t a ke n – we ’ve le a rn e d a lot in t h e p ro ce ss, a n d I'm

re p re se nt in g m yse lf , b e cau se , a cco rd in g t o t he con st itu t io n , I

h a ve a ll t he righ t t o do th a t . An d I'm e xe rcisin g t h e b ills of

righ t . T h a t 's t he m o st po t en t pa rt of t h e S ou t h A f rican

Co n st it u t ion . An d t h e a cce ss t o info rm a t io n , wh ich ha s b ee n

15 d e n ied in a ll t h e se ca se s.

CO URT : O ka y. Do yo u wa n t u s t o p ro ce e d wit h t h is

a p p lica t ion for re scissio n ? L e t 's f o rge t a b ou t the

Co n st it u t ion a l Co urt ju d gm e n t. Do yo u wa n t u s – t o yo u wa n t

t o a rgu e th e a pp lica t io n f o r re scission t od a y?

20 MR L O HFE L DT : I 'm n o t he re t o a rgu e . I h a ve t ra n sf erre d f or

ca u se t o th e Co n stit u t io na l Co u rt .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

CO URT : B ut yo u a re – no , no , n o – a lrigh t . T he re a re t wo

t h in gs t h a t (in d ist in ct ). L e t me re p ea t m yse lf . I t ’s e it h e r yo u

go st ra igh t t o t h e Co n st it u t ion a l Co urt , a nd t he n yo u wit h d ra w

25 t h e a p p lica t io n wh ich is b ef o re u s.

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MR L O HFE L DT : T ha t 's co rre ct.

CO URT : O r, a ltern a t ive ly, yo u p ro ce e d wit h t h is a pplica t io n ,

a n d yo u wa it f o r th e o u t co me . If yo u a re no t h ap p y wit h t he

o u t com e, t h en yo u ca n t a ke it f u rt h e r, t o t he Co n Co u rt ,

5 Co n st it u t ion a l Court .

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : S o it ’s – t h e ch o ice is e n t ire ly u p t o yo u .

MR L O HFE L DT : W e can p ro ce e d wit h t h e a p p lica t ion if you

a re in t h e p o we r t o p a ss a jud gm en t t o d a y t o co n side r wh a t is

10 a ll in t h e a p p lica tio n , a ll t h e a rgu me n t s I ’ve b ro u gh t a cro ss.

I 'm ju st sa yin g t h a t it ’s kind of – it ’s p o int le ss to a rgu e ,

b e cau se we ’ve see n th is no w, we ’ ve ob se rve d th is ove r t h e

la st t wo m o n t h s (in d ist in ct ). I t ’s b eyo n d t h e ju ris d ict io n of t he

High Co u rt s t o pa ss ju d gm en t s in t h ese ma t t e rs.

15 CO URT : W h y a re yo u sa yin g t h a t it ’s b e yo n d t h e ju risd ict ion

of t he High Co u rt .. . (in t e rve n t io n )

MR L O HFE L DT : W ell, we h a ve se en it , b e ca u se t h e Ju d ge s -

I 'm n o t a ccu sin g yo u – a lo t of t hem se em t o be b iase d , a nd

n o t im pa rt ia l. Th is is wh a t – t h a t wa s t h e com p la int th a t we n t

20 o u t to Ju d ge Go lia t h , t ha t ’s wh y sh e re m o ve d he rse lf f ro m t he

ca se ye st e rd a y.

CO URT : O ka y. S o d o yo u wa n t u s t o p ro ce e d wit h yo u r

re scissio n a p p licat io n , o r d o yo u w a n t t o wit h d ra w it so t h at

yo u ca n go st ra ight t o th e Co n Cou rt , Co n st it ut io n a l Cou rt ?

25 MR L O HFE L DT : I ’ll ra t h e r wit h d ra w it . I ’ll wit h d ra w it ,

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b e cau se it ’s a lread y b e e n f iled wit h t h e Con st it ut io n a l Co u rt .

CO URT : I t h in k – I su gge st t h a t yo u com mu n ica t e wit h t h e

la wye r f o r t h e b a nk, so t h a t yo u ca n a gre e o n a wa y f o rwa rd

a n d t h en com e b a ck t o m e , a lrigh t ?

5 MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y.

CO URT : Th a n k yo u .

M ATTE R S T AN DS DO W N (a t 12 :4 3 )

M ATTE R RE S UME S : (a t 1 3: 12 )

CO URT : I t a ke it , Mr L o hf e ld t , yo u ha ve re a d th is d o cum e nt ?

10 MR L O HFE L DT : I h a ve n o t re a d it. I h a ve n ot e ve n se e n it .

I ’ve re a d it no w.

CO URT : Do yo u a gre e , d o yo u co n f irm th a t t h is is wh a t wa s

a gre e d be t we e n yo u a nd th e a t t o rne y?

MR L O HFE L DT : I d o n ’t a gre e wit h th e . .. (in t e rve n t io n )

15 CO URT : A n d t he a d vo ca t e f o r t he …

MR L O HFE L DT : I do n ’t a gre e wit h t he co st pa rt , be ca u se I

d o n ’t se e a n in ju red p a rt y h e re a t t h e m om en t .

UNI DE NT I FI E D SP E A K E R : M'Lord , af te r t he m a tt e r wa s

h e a rd , a n d I ha d e xp la in e d t o h im th a t , be ca u se t h e m a tt e r is

20 n o w wit h d ra wn , h e h a s to t en d e r the co st s of t h e wit h d ra wa l,

a n d h e sa id he wo u ld t en d e r t h e co sts.

MR L O HFE L DT : O ka y, yo u ca n p ro d u ce a n in vo ice . T ha t ’s

f ine wit h m e.

CO URT : S o rry, so rry?

25 MR L O HFE L DT : If yo u can p rod u ce a n in vo ice , yo u ca n

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a d d re ss it t o m e .

CO URT : I t will b e t a xe d . T a xe d , a lrigh t ?

UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : I t will b e t a xe d , M'L o rd.

MR L O HFE L DT : A n o rigin a l in vo ice . No t a ce rt if ied co p y.

5 CO URT : W hat I 'm go in g t o writ e he re , nu mb e r t wo , I'm go in g

t o sa y – ju st list en ca ref u lly – t h at t h e a p p lican t sh a ll t e nd e r

t h e co st of t h e wit h d ra wa l, wh ich a re t o be t a xe d . O kay? Ju st

t o ma ke su re t ha t yo u su b m it t h e in vo ice s wh ich h e is ref e rrin g

to. Righ t . Th en t h is m at t e r, nu m be r 68 , b y a gre e me nt

10 b e t we e n th e p a rt ie s, t he o rde r is m a de in t e rm s of t h e d raf t

m a rked X.

UNI DE NT I FI E D SPE A K E R : A s t h e Co u rt p lea se s.

CO URT : T h an k yo u . T h a n k yo u , Mr L o hf e ldt , yo u a re

e xcu se d .

15 MR L O HFE L DT : T ha n k yo u ve ry m uch .

CO URT : O ka y.

MR L O HFE L DT : Ha ve a lo ve ly d a y.

CO URT : Th a n k yo u , sa me t o yo u .

M ATTE R S T AN DS DO W N (a t 13 :1 4 )

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