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OrderFlow Charts and Notes 20th Sept 17


 Posted on September 20, 2017 (http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-notes-20th-sept-17/)  Shai (http://vtrender.com/author/shai/)
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OrderFlow Charts and Notes 20th Sept 17

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08:33   r m : (08:31) r m: Open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) Positions: Short 10100CE at 45-46 | Long NF above 10033, Part booked at 10095, TSL at cost | Long NF at
10166-69, SL 10033, Target 10295 | Long 10050PE at 67 / Short 10100PE at 36 | Long BNF at 25080-85, SL 25010, Target 25190

08:33   r m : (08:31) r m: http://vtrender.com/evening-report-dated-19th-sept-17/


(08:32) r m: http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-notes-19th-sept-17/
(08:32) r m: http://vtrender.com/trading-room-charts-19th-sept/
(08:32) r m: http://vtrender.com/profile-charts-dated-19th-sept-17/

08:33   r m : (08:32) r m: **Bullish Hypo: Above 10196 longs for 10213 **Bearish Hypo: Below 10145 shorts for 10127 ** Neutral Range: 10150-10170

08:33   r m : (08:32) r m: **Bullish Hypo: Above 25105 longs for 25158 **Bearish Hypo: Below 24990 shorts for 24944 ** Neutral Range: 25000-25100

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14:45   r m : (14:44) Shai : Update : make an exit in the BNF long positiona at 25062- 25065 here

08:31   r m : Good Morning folks!


08:31   r m : Open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) Positions: Short 10100CE at 45-46 | Long NF above 10033, Part booked at 10095, TSL at cost | Long NF at 10166-69,
SL 10033, Target 10295 | Long 10050PE at 67 / Short 10100PE at 36 | Long BNF at 25080-85, SL 25010, Target 25190
08:31   r m : http://vtrender.com/evening-report-dated-19th-sept-17/
08:32   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-notes-19th-sept-17/
08:32   r m : http://vtrender.com/trading-room-charts-19th-sept/
08:32   r m : http://vtrender.com/profile-charts-dated-19th-sept-17/
08:32   r m : **Bullish Hypo: Above 10196 longs for 10213 **Bearish Hypo: Below 10145 shorts for 10127 ** Neutral Range: 10150-10170
08:32   r m : **Bullish Hypo: Above 25105 longs for 25158 **Bearish Hypo: Below 24990 shorts for 24944 ** Neutral Range: 25000-25100
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08:57   Jitender : Gm Shai, Rm, Folks
08:58   r m : Hi Jitender
08:59   Jai : gm shai ,rm and all
08:59   r m : Hi Jai
09:00   Sandeep : GM Shai. RM and all!
09:00   r m : Hi Sandeep
09:00   Suresh : Good Morning Shai, RM and All
09:00   Kathir : GM Shai RM
09:00   r m : Hi Suresh
09:01   Kathir : GM all
09:01   r m : Hi Kathir the King!
09:01   Shai : GM all

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09:01   Kathir : RM kim,is the king
09:02   r m :
09:06   Kathir : @shai usd/inr ?
09:06   Kathir : again at 64.35/ more upside ?
09:08   Shai : No change in the hypos from yesterday as auction (http://vtrender.com/glossary/auction/) was flat and inside
09:08   Shai : USDINR 64.25 supp now
09:09   Favi : GM all
09:09   Kathir : ok
09:09   Lokesh : GM Shai, RM & all
09:09   r m : Hi Lokesh
09:10   RK : Gm Shai,RM and all
09:10   r m : Hi RK
09:10   Jitender : wats wrong with bnf ? – 57
09:12   r m : axis, icici, hdfcbank down in pre-open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/)
09:12   Kathir : initial shake jit to take out weak guys ?
09:13   Jitender : tx rm
09:13   Jitender : Kathir…have to see…its open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) below yday range
09:13   Kathir : sbi never crossed that seller 277.- 278
09:13   Kathir : ok jit
09:13   Jitender : SBI is in a dwnturn
09:13   Jitender : its HDFC..tats the key
09:15   Porus : yday RS 10178 selling again
09:16   Sarnedu : as expected ..RIL gonna push NF today
09:16   Sarnedu : RIL 3.8% up
09:17   Sarnedu : Airtel ..6% down in reaction
09:17   r m : Options writers have to stay alive na
09:18   Shai : Today closing hour imp for OrderFlow traders as anticpation builds for tom
09:19   Shai : not just our market even the US has been flat over past 2 days
09:19   Shai : watch 2508 into the event over there
09:19   Shai : a failure there brings 2485 again but initiative new buyers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/buyers/) can push it to 2520 also
09:24   Shai : traded volumes in Futures are low becuase everyone is well hedged – http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/poi19sep.png
09:24   Shai : net exposure shows no bias in the market
09:24   Shai : almost too well hedged that chart
09:24   Shai : we could be in an extended 9600- 10400 kind of range over a 6 month period now
09:25   Shai : and wait for that vwap at 9200 to catch up to price
09:25   Bharat : GM Shai, rm and all
09:26   r m : Hi Bharat
09:28   Jitender : Anuj repeatedly said in morn to buy all dips & build long pos for Fed
09:29   Kathir : 9200 vwap shai ?
09:29   Shai : ok
09:30   Kathir : both tcs and infy open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/)=high
09:30   Shai : was the vwap of the run up of the Trump rally Kathir
09:30   Shai : Now moving hgher every day
09:31   Kathir : oh ok . thanks you shai ..trump vwap
09:31   Jitender : “rocketman” & ” we will destroy N Kaorea”
09:31   Jitender : wat wud KJU do now ?
09:32   r m : launch more missiles aimed at nothing but near US bases
09:32   Jitender : he’s a defiant idiot…
09:33   Jitender : nxt correction probab is gng to be on his & trump’s shoulders
09:35   Shai : BNF looking good here
09:37   Jitender : Kathir 25k pe o=h
09:39   Kathir : ok jit
09:39   RK : looks like day to preserve emotional capital
09:41   Shai : yes OAIR again within an Inside day
09:41   RK : and BNF open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) bar cleared high and low of the day already
09:41   RK : *high and low of yday
09:43   Favi : @rk one more flip below 25000 and zooom ?
09:45   Favi : morning flip i dont think any problem for sL
09:45   Favi : dip buyers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/buyers/) intact
09:45   RK : FAvi lets track the price and see what OF suggests when price reaches such ref..not going to predict this today
09:46   Favi : ok thnks
10:01   TP : GM All.
10:02   TP : Wow OAIR so missed nothing
10:03   r m :

10:10   Sarnedu : NF approaching MB low of 10159

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10:12   Sarnedu : missed 10162 to book out..
10:12   Sarnedu : need to wait more :/
10:12   Jitender : 16 pint IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) with 10 pt tradn range in nf
10:13   Jitender : Rk..wich movie today ?
10:14   Sarnedu : I did short took at 10175 for 12-15 pointer …:p
10:15   Kathir : RK aiming for kabali 2 jit
10:15   Jitender :
10:16   RK : Jit
10:17   Sarnedu : 10162.10 booked out
10:17   Sarnedu : u ..relief
10:18   Sarnedu : now lets c ..MB low cracks or not
10:19   Porus : 10155 was buyer yday
10:20   Sarnedu : MB low 10159 getting tested
10:23   Jitender : rahukalam Ib (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) extn…
10:28   Jitender : Shai..can u pls publish the chart with VAs & POC (09:25) Shai : and wait for that vwap at 9200 to catch up to price(09:30) Shai : was the vwap of the run up
of the Trump rally Kathir
10:29   Shai : sure
10:29   Shai : 64.50 usdinr
10:29   Shai : this one is dressed for the FED
10:30   Jitender : tx
10:31   Kathir : ok
10:33   Porus : Shai, so if FED does not raise rates, USDINR will fall back?
10:33   Misaal : Is it. Shai ?, I’m thinking it’s going to be play on IT and rest of pharma apart from divis.
10:33   Misaal : I’m doing my best to front this market for the long side
10:34   Shai : positioning has changed Porus since yesterday in usdinr
10:34   Shai : there were some big inventory changes at 64.22 yesterday and 64.09 ay before
10:34   Porus : trying to understnd what is built in
10:35   TP : Shai views on going long in 25k combo for tom expiry at around 150 ….this will be post fed and narrow bn range ……chances of a 200 on that .
10:35   Shai : Not sure what is bulit in
10:35   Porus : ok
10:35   Porus : ty
10:35   Shai : but anything abv 64.52F now will put it straight in line for 65.05F
10:35   Shai : supp at 64.24F
10:36   Shai : TP suggested range in BNF is 25200 to 24940
10:37   TP : tks.
10:38   Sarnedu : rates not gonna get hiked this meeting; …but that bond unwinding related commentary is holding all..
10:38   Jitender : ys
10:39   Porus : yes, but e ect may be similar, as money will move into usd and commodities
10:40   Porus : and rates will rise
11:04   Sarnedu : I returned back frm nearby grocery ..NF is still there ….duhh..
11:05   Kathir : uttam not present today ?
11:06   r m : no, he is travelling
11:07   Kathir : ok RM ty
11:11   Davis : ask Uttam to bring leave letter tomorrow
11:13   r m :
11:16   Porus : shai, pls refresh nf
11:16   Sarnedu : BNF at MB low area
11:16   RK : 80% done in NF
11:17   RK : Shai lot of selling in 10200 CE today or its normal fig?
11:19   Jitender : vix 11.82
11:21   Kathir : 10100 ce op=high
11:23   Kathir : bn spot moving down
11:36   Kathir : @RM?
11:37   r m : sir
11:37   Kathir : please increase volume in NF and bnf
11:37   r m :
11:37   r m : gimme the dough to achieve that
11:37   Kathir : Thats what i dont know
11:40   Kathir : sbi moving up
11:41   Shai : some coverng now- (11:17) RK : Shai lot of selling in 10200 CE today or its normal fig?
11:42   Jitender : Shai..coz of DII..if spx corrects can COCO again decline due to DII ?
11:42   Shai : 10100 pe being sold same time
11:42   RK : thanks Shai
11:43   Shai : That’s my point Jit

11:43   Shai : Market is looking west and I frankly don’t believe in these Mutual fund numbers being used to talk for strength etc

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11:44   Shai : we correct now when ES corrects
11:44   Jitender : got it…tx
11:44   Shai : it’s actually liquidity everywhere
11:45   Shai : they also have lots of free money to ivest and so have we
11:45   Shai : but whenever a correction starts it would be global
11:45   Jitender : k
11:46   Shai : hostorical avg has been 87- 92%
11:47   Shai : the last time the coco went down was when we hit 8900 and came away to 7600 and they were flat around 2100- 2070 roughly
11:48   Shai : but when we dropped to 6800 they also hit lows of 1790 and since there except for that demon 2 month period we have synced
11:50   Porus : coco=correlation coe icient?
11:50   Shai : yes
11:50   Porus : is it plotted somewhere we can see?
11:50   Shai : ther lows were just a few days before ours pre budget day that year
11:51   Sarnedu : its posted in marketprofile channel in slack
11:51   Porus : ok
11:51   Shai : but I think we held back from following cos of the Budget event that week
11:51   Shai : so that event can be a small factor in up/ down timings but else everything is a sync
12:12   Sandip : Well, Good a er noon guys
12:13   Sandip : @Shai, had a question
12:15   Shai : sure
12:15   Sandip : Can you suggest a volatile stock , that you have your eye on…I wanted to track, can you plz advice some stock with volumes in options as well….I wanted to
track for a few days..any stock
12:16   Shai : haha
12:16   Sandip :
12:16   Shai : I’m not loyal to any1 stock. keep changing and have remained single
12:16   Shai : currently watching NIITetch
12:16   Sandip : ok a few for example?
12:17   Sandip : blue chip hai NIIT?
12:17   Shai : volume buzzing in it from open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) so something is up
12:18   Sandip : oh ok Thanks Shai
12:18   Shai : also watch the diveregence channel
12:18   Shai : that’s where the Blue chips are if yur are interestted
12:18   Shai : all based on vol buzzing
12:18   Sandip : ooooo yeaaa now i remember
12:18   Sandip : thx for reminding..ill add myself now
12:18   Shai : a series of those messages and you know something is happening
12:19   Sandip : perfect. thanks
12:21   Sandip : Lol Tata Steel Tata motors and Infi are there almost every day on that channel horny blue chips!
12:21   r m :
12:38   Kathir : tcs also covers maximum dievergence almost everyday
12:54   Kathir : @RK bn spot around 24980 – 25k ce monthly around 200 and 25 k pe around 150 only
12:55   RK : Kathir lets first resolve NF and then look at BNF
12:58   Kathir : ok
12:58   Kathir : have to find out RM s plan on NF
13:00   r m : easier to find Kim’s plans
13:01   Kathir : lol
13:01   Kathir : kims missiles nowadays doing like diwali rocket
13:01   Kathir : goes somewhere and falls somewhere
13:03   RK : 10165-166 potential Ledge
13:09   Sarnedu : Reliance ..almost entirely giving up its morning gain..
13:11   Jitender : bnf spot at DL again
13:16   Jai : shai i thing market going down again bnf 24500 ?
13:19   Jai : what do u thing?
13:25   Shai : 24500?
13:25   Sarnedu : BN at abt 60 pnts premium frm spot
13:26   Shai : right now not doing anything
13:26   Shai : 24840 possible if vols increse below 24980
13:28   Jai : nf and nbf premium 20and 60 poins……..
13:28   Jai : increased
13:30   Jai : what is that mean ……….?
13:31   r m : di erence between spot and future price is premium
13:31   Jai : market going up r dowm last day premium was 0
13:41   Sarnedu : BN spot bck abv 25k
13:47   Jitender : @rm how r the vols in bnf spot ?

13:50   r m : no way to check and compare those, spot volumes have to be constructed

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13:51   Jitender : k..tx
14:00   r m : charts vanished?
14:00   TP : yep
14:02   RK : charts did facepalm a er seeing 10 point range
14:02   r m : lol
14:03   Kathir : lol . shai please bring back your charts above IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) high
14:03   Kathir : or below IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) low
14:04   Kathir : @RM i doubt uttam for this
14:05   r m :
14:12   Kathir : usd/inr doing good moves today
14:12   Kathir : back to 64.35
14:20   Shai : last hour
14:23   TP : even if we clock in .5 m vol in last hour would be lowest vol of recent times
14:25   Shai : 10177 yesterday’s RS
14:26   Shai : 10100 pe agin written
14:26   Porus : This RS kept n down at open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) too
14:26   Porus : nf
14:26   Shai : yes
14:27   Shai : close below 64.33 F will take away the bullish intent
14:27   Kathir : ok
14:33   Sandip : screen gone?
14:33   TP : it is ok today not helping much
14:35   Shai :
14:35   Shai : Omnovia also falling asleep4
14:35   Sandeep :
14:35   TP : haha
14:39   Porus : close at highs day, Shai?
14:40   RK : Shai can we have refresh in NF OF?
14:42   Shai : done
14:42   RK : thanks wanted to see that 50K as TDw as showing prominent
14:43   RK : *TD
14:43   Shai : RS
14:43   RK : yes
14:43   RK : lets see if he can push for VWAP close
14:44   Shai : Update : make an exit in the BNF long positiona at 25062- 25065 here
14:52   TP : rk is that 3750 your cover order.
14:53   Shai : some more NF sellers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/sellers/)
14:54   RK : Tej
15:01   Shai : No burst of vols
15:02   Shai : looks like NSE guys think FED is a non event
15:02   Porus : then we shld close near the RS and take out with a gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/)
15:07   Shai : yes
15:18   Jitender : Anuj is surprised by mkt today
15:18   Jitender : rk..strong chances of dwonhill journey frm tomorrow
15:18   Shai : vwap close
15:18   Shai : no edge
15:18   Jitender : *Rk
15:19   Shai : – (15:18) Jitender : Anuj is surprised by mkt today
15:19   Shai : his people bought and still the NF did not rise
15:19   Jitender : hehe
15:19   Kathir :
15:20   Davis : @shai any chance for gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/) up tomorrow? expiry day
15:20   Shai : can’t ssay for a gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/) up
15:20   Shai : But BNF should move tom
15:20   Porus : lets watch last 5 min.
15:20   Shai : triple inside
15:20   Shai : big chances of a trend day (http://vtrender.com/glossary/trend-day/)
15:20   Shai : even NF
15:21   RK : but but they do trend in gaps
15:21   Shai : hope there is no gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/)
15:21   TP : i am in that 25k combo at 140 .
15:21   Favi : shai 25100 ce ?
15:22   Favi : iv
15:23   RK : sellers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/sellers/) in both

15:23   RK : NF RS as well as selling from VWAP

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15:25   Shai : 26 supp in 25100 ce
15:25   Shai : res at 66
15:25   Shai : can be a buy if it is abv 26 with sl below 7
15:26   Porus : The nf pe OI addition of today has comletely come o .
15:26   Porus : read as ce
15:27   Porus : max OI addition is at 10300 for ce and pe
15:28   Kathir : RK some buying in 25k pe monthly ?
15:29   Porus : NF close 10 pts from RS
15:29   Jitender : bye all
15:29   Kathir : Thanks and bye all
15:30   TP : Bye All.
15:30   Suresh : bye all
15:30   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening
15:30   Lokesh : Thanks bye all
15:32   Bharat : bye all
15:34   Shai : Bye all
15:34   Sandip : bye all
15:37   Favi : bye all

10:35   Sandeep : RIL support and resistence for intra please


10:37   Shai : 851 a supp now RIL
10:38   Shai : below taht 843 is coming
10:38   Shai : 858 now res
10:40   Sandeep : thanks Shai!
10:46   Sarnedu : 851 pierced down marginally..
10:49   Sandeep : yeah still holding!
10:49   TP : Shai views on SBIN for ID .
10:52   Mallika R : Shai what about McDowell -N for short?
10:53   Mallika R : It has already fallen around 40 points today. Is there scope for more fall?
10:56   Shai : 269 day supp sbin. 270.7 one obj done
10:57   Shai : abv that 273.8 else if breaks 269 then 266.3 – intra
10:57   Shai : mcdoweel 2624 a huge supp
10:58   Shai : positionally becomes weak below 2624
10:59   TP : tks.
11:01   Mallika R : ok thanks Shai
11:23   Kathir : @shai asianpaints postional supp and resis ..esp for longs ?
11:37   Shai : 1226- 1268 range of trade for this week
11:38   Kathir : ok shai ..will this do 1300 if breaks 1268
11:41   Shai : 1305 yes
11:41   Kathir : ok thank you
12:18   Sarnedu : shorted hdfc bnk 1847.10 #ID
13:39   Porus : Rumours that NIIT Tech may b taken over by IBM/TCS at 600+. Just rumour and heresay
13:41   Porus : At current price has a P/E of 7.7
13:50   Shai : yeah there have been some rumors floating around for 2 weeks now in that one and the sister concern niitltd
13:50   Shai : but this one has been buzzing with vol alerts from 499 and more today at 510
13:51   Shai : 536 destination trade
13:53   Porus : cud b a trap for givung exit of NIIT Ltd shares
13:54   Shai : yes
13:55   Shai : it’s that phase of the market when rumors have to be spread to give exits to trapped hands
13:55   Shai : and in the age of WA and telegram and twitter that is so so easy
13:55   Shai : and ofcourse some helpful TV hosts
13:55   r m :
13:55   TP : Shai KAJARIACER for ID can go back to highs or move done.
13:55   Porus : oh yes
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