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08:33 r m : (08:31) r m: Open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) Positions: Short 10100CE at 45-46 | Long NF above 10033, Part booked at 10095, TSL at cost | Long NF at
10166-69, SL 10033, Target 10295 | Long 10050PE at 67 / Short 10100PE at 36 | Long BNF at 25080-85, SL 25010, Target 25190
08:33 r m : (08:32) r m: **Bullish Hypo: Above 10196 longs for 10213 **Bearish Hypo: Below 10145 shorts for 10127 ** Neutral Range: 10150-10170
08:33 r m : (08:32) r m: **Bullish Hypo: Above 25105 longs for 25158 **Bearish Hypo: Below 24990 shorts for 24944 ** Neutral Range: 25000-25100
14:45 r m : (14:44) Shai : Update : make an exit in the BNF long positiona at 25062- 25065 here
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09:01 Kathir : RM kim,is the king
09:02 r m :
09:06 Kathir : @shai usd/inr ?
09:06 Kathir : again at 64.35/ more upside ?
09:08 Shai : No change in the hypos from yesterday as auction (http://vtrender.com/glossary/auction/) was flat and inside
09:08 Shai : USDINR 64.25 supp now
09:09 Favi : GM all
09:09 Kathir : ok
09:09 Lokesh : GM Shai, RM & all
09:09 r m : Hi Lokesh
09:10 RK : Gm Shai,RM and all
09:10 r m : Hi RK
09:10 Jitender : wats wrong with bnf ? – 57
09:12 r m : axis, icici, hdfcbank down in pre-open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/)
09:12 Kathir : initial shake jit to take out weak guys ?
09:13 Jitender : tx rm
09:13 Jitender : Kathir…have to see…its open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) below yday range
09:13 Kathir : sbi never crossed that seller 277.- 278
09:13 Kathir : ok jit
09:13 Jitender : SBI is in a dwnturn
09:13 Jitender : its HDFC..tats the key
09:15 Porus : yday RS 10178 selling again
09:16 Sarnedu : as expected ..RIL gonna push NF today
09:16 Sarnedu : RIL 3.8% up
09:17 Sarnedu : Airtel ..6% down in reaction
09:17 r m : Options writers have to stay alive na
09:18 Shai : Today closing hour imp for OrderFlow traders as anticpation builds for tom
09:19 Shai : not just our market even the US has been flat over past 2 days
09:19 Shai : watch 2508 into the event over there
09:19 Shai : a failure there brings 2485 again but initiative new buyers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/buyers/) can push it to 2520 also
09:24 Shai : traded volumes in Futures are low becuase everyone is well hedged – http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/poi19sep.png
09:24 Shai : net exposure shows no bias in the market
09:24 Shai : almost too well hedged that chart
09:24 Shai : we could be in an extended 9600- 10400 kind of range over a 6 month period now
09:25 Shai : and wait for that vwap at 9200 to catch up to price
09:25 Bharat : GM Shai, rm and all
09:26 r m : Hi Bharat
09:28 Jitender : Anuj repeatedly said in morn to buy all dips & build long pos for Fed
09:29 Kathir : 9200 vwap shai ?
09:29 Shai : ok
09:30 Kathir : both tcs and infy open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/)=high
09:30 Shai : was the vwap of the run up of the Trump rally Kathir
09:30 Shai : Now moving hgher every day
09:31 Kathir : oh ok . thanks you shai ..trump vwap
09:31 Jitender : “rocketman” & ” we will destroy N Kaorea”
09:31 Jitender : wat wud KJU do now ?
09:32 r m : launch more missiles aimed at nothing but near US bases
09:32 Jitender : he’s a defiant idiot…
09:33 Jitender : nxt correction probab is gng to be on his & trump’s shoulders
09:35 Shai : BNF looking good here
09:37 Jitender : Kathir 25k pe o=h
09:39 Kathir : ok jit
09:39 RK : looks like day to preserve emotional capital
09:41 Shai : yes OAIR again within an Inside day
09:41 RK : and BNF open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) bar cleared high and low of the day already
09:41 RK : *high and low of yday
09:43 Favi : @rk one more flip below 25000 and zooom ?
09:45 Favi : morning flip i dont think any problem for sL
09:45 Favi : dip buyers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/buyers/) intact
09:45 RK : FAvi lets track the price and see what OF suggests when price reaches such ref..not going to predict this today
09:46 Favi : ok thnks
10:01 TP : GM All.
10:02 TP : Wow OAIR so missed nothing
10:03 r m :
10:10 Sarnedu : NF approaching MB low of 10159
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10:12 Sarnedu : missed 10162 to book out..
10:12 Sarnedu : need to wait more :/
10:12 Jitender : 16 pint IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) with 10 pt tradn range in nf
10:13 Jitender : Rk..wich movie today ?
10:14 Sarnedu : I did short took at 10175 for 12-15 pointer …:p
10:15 Kathir : RK aiming for kabali 2 jit
10:15 Jitender :
10:16 RK : Jit
10:17 Sarnedu : 10162.10 booked out
10:17 Sarnedu : u ..relief
10:18 Sarnedu : now lets c ..MB low cracks or not
10:19 Porus : 10155 was buyer yday
10:20 Sarnedu : MB low 10159 getting tested
10:23 Jitender : rahukalam Ib (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) extn…
10:28 Jitender : Shai..can u pls publish the chart with VAs & POC (09:25) Shai : and wait for that vwap at 9200 to catch up to price(09:30) Shai : was the vwap of the run up
of the Trump rally Kathir
10:29 Shai : sure
10:29 Shai : 64.50 usdinr
10:29 Shai : this one is dressed for the FED
10:30 Jitender : tx
10:31 Kathir : ok
10:33 Porus : Shai, so if FED does not raise rates, USDINR will fall back?
10:33 Misaal : Is it. Shai ?, I’m thinking it’s going to be play on IT and rest of pharma apart from divis.
10:33 Misaal : I’m doing my best to front this market for the long side
10:34 Shai : positioning has changed Porus since yesterday in usdinr
10:34 Shai : there were some big inventory changes at 64.22 yesterday and 64.09 ay before
10:34 Porus : trying to understnd what is built in
10:35 TP : Shai views on going long in 25k combo for tom expiry at around 150 ….this will be post fed and narrow bn range ……chances of a 200 on that .
10:35 Shai : Not sure what is bulit in
10:35 Porus : ok
10:35 Porus : ty
10:35 Shai : but anything abv 64.52F now will put it straight in line for 65.05F
10:35 Shai : supp at 64.24F
10:36 Shai : TP suggested range in BNF is 25200 to 24940
10:37 TP : tks.
10:38 Sarnedu : rates not gonna get hiked this meeting; …but that bond unwinding related commentary is holding all..
10:38 Jitender : ys
10:39 Porus : yes, but e ect may be similar, as money will move into usd and commodities
10:40 Porus : and rates will rise
11:04 Sarnedu : I returned back frm nearby grocery ..NF is still there ….duhh..
11:05 Kathir : uttam not present today ?
11:06 r m : no, he is travelling
11:07 Kathir : ok RM ty
11:11 Davis : ask Uttam to bring leave letter tomorrow
11:13 r m :
11:16 Porus : shai, pls refresh nf
11:16 Sarnedu : BNF at MB low area
11:16 RK : 80% done in NF
11:17 RK : Shai lot of selling in 10200 CE today or its normal fig?
11:19 Jitender : vix 11.82
11:21 Kathir : 10100 ce op=high
11:23 Kathir : bn spot moving down
11:36 Kathir : @RM?
11:37 r m : sir
11:37 Kathir : please increase volume in NF and bnf
11:37 r m :
11:37 r m : gimme the dough to achieve that
11:37 Kathir : Thats what i dont know
11:40 Kathir : sbi moving up
11:41 Shai : some coverng now- (11:17) RK : Shai lot of selling in 10200 CE today or its normal fig?
11:42 Jitender : Shai..coz of DII..if spx corrects can COCO again decline due to DII ?
11:42 Shai : 10100 pe being sold same time
11:42 RK : thanks Shai
11:43 Shai : That’s my point Jit
11:43 Shai : Market is looking west and I frankly don’t believe in these Mutual fund numbers being used to talk for strength etc
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11:44 Shai : we correct now when ES corrects
11:44 Jitender : got it…tx
11:44 Shai : it’s actually liquidity everywhere
11:45 Shai : they also have lots of free money to ivest and so have we
11:45 Shai : but whenever a correction starts it would be global
11:45 Jitender : k
11:46 Shai : hostorical avg has been 87- 92%
11:47 Shai : the last time the coco went down was when we hit 8900 and came away to 7600 and they were flat around 2100- 2070 roughly
11:48 Shai : but when we dropped to 6800 they also hit lows of 1790 and since there except for that demon 2 month period we have synced
11:50 Porus : coco=correlation coe icient?
11:50 Shai : yes
11:50 Porus : is it plotted somewhere we can see?
11:50 Shai : ther lows were just a few days before ours pre budget day that year
11:51 Sarnedu : its posted in marketprofile channel in slack
11:51 Porus : ok
11:51 Shai : but I think we held back from following cos of the Budget event that week
11:51 Shai : so that event can be a small factor in up/ down timings but else everything is a sync
12:12 Sandip : Well, Good a er noon guys
12:13 Sandip : @Shai, had a question
12:15 Shai : sure
12:15 Sandip : Can you suggest a volatile stock , that you have your eye on…I wanted to track, can you plz advice some stock with volumes in options as well….I wanted to
track for a few days..any stock
12:16 Shai : haha
12:16 Sandip :
12:16 Shai : I’m not loyal to any1 stock. keep changing and have remained single
12:16 Shai : currently watching NIITetch
12:16 Sandip : ok a few for example?
12:17 Sandip : blue chip hai NIIT?
12:17 Shai : volume buzzing in it from open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) so something is up
12:18 Sandip : oh ok Thanks Shai
12:18 Shai : also watch the diveregence channel
12:18 Shai : that’s where the Blue chips are if yur are interestted
12:18 Shai : all based on vol buzzing
12:18 Sandip : ooooo yeaaa now i remember
12:18 Sandip : thx for reminding..ill add myself now
12:18 Shai : a series of those messages and you know something is happening
12:19 Sandip : perfect. thanks
12:21 Sandip : Lol Tata Steel Tata motors and Infi are there almost every day on that channel horny blue chips!
12:21 r m :
12:38 Kathir : tcs also covers maximum dievergence almost everyday
12:54 Kathir : @RK bn spot around 24980 – 25k ce monthly around 200 and 25 k pe around 150 only
12:55 RK : Kathir lets first resolve NF and then look at BNF
12:58 Kathir : ok
12:58 Kathir : have to find out RM s plan on NF
13:00 r m : easier to find Kim’s plans
13:01 Kathir : lol
13:01 Kathir : kims missiles nowadays doing like diwali rocket
13:01 Kathir : goes somewhere and falls somewhere
13:03 RK : 10165-166 potential Ledge
13:09 Sarnedu : Reliance ..almost entirely giving up its morning gain..
13:11 Jitender : bnf spot at DL again
13:16 Jai : shai i thing market going down again bnf 24500 ?
13:19 Jai : what do u thing?
13:25 Shai : 24500?
13:25 Sarnedu : BN at abt 60 pnts premium frm spot
13:26 Shai : right now not doing anything
13:26 Shai : 24840 possible if vols increse below 24980
13:28 Jai : nf and nbf premium 20and 60 poins……..
13:28 Jai : increased
13:30 Jai : what is that mean ……….?
13:31 r m : di erence between spot and future price is premium
13:31 Jai : market going up r dowm last day premium was 0
13:41 Sarnedu : BN spot bck abv 25k
13:47 Jitender : @rm how r the vols in bnf spot ?
13:50 r m : no way to check and compare those, spot volumes have to be constructed
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13:51 Jitender : k..tx
14:00 r m : charts vanished?
14:00 TP : yep
14:02 RK : charts did facepalm a er seeing 10 point range
14:02 r m : lol
14:03 Kathir : lol . shai please bring back your charts above IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) high
14:03 Kathir : or below IB (http://vtrender.com/glossary/ib/) low
14:04 Kathir : @RM i doubt uttam for this
14:05 r m :
14:12 Kathir : usd/inr doing good moves today
14:12 Kathir : back to 64.35
14:20 Shai : last hour
14:23 TP : even if we clock in .5 m vol in last hour would be lowest vol of recent times
14:25 Shai : 10177 yesterday’s RS
14:26 Shai : 10100 pe agin written
14:26 Porus : This RS kept n down at open (http://vtrender.com/glossary/open/) too
14:26 Porus : nf
14:26 Shai : yes
14:27 Shai : close below 64.33 F will take away the bullish intent
14:27 Kathir : ok
14:33 Sandip : screen gone?
14:33 TP : it is ok today not helping much
14:35 Shai :
14:35 Shai : Omnovia also falling asleep4
14:35 Sandeep :
14:35 TP : haha
14:39 Porus : close at highs day, Shai?
14:40 RK : Shai can we have refresh in NF OF?
14:42 Shai : done
14:42 RK : thanks wanted to see that 50K as TDw as showing prominent
14:43 RK : *TD
14:43 Shai : RS
14:43 RK : yes
14:43 RK : lets see if he can push for VWAP close
14:44 Shai : Update : make an exit in the BNF long positiona at 25062- 25065 here
14:52 TP : rk is that 3750 your cover order.
14:53 Shai : some more NF sellers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/sellers/)
14:54 RK : Tej
15:01 Shai : No burst of vols
15:02 Shai : looks like NSE guys think FED is a non event
15:02 Porus : then we shld close near the RS and take out with a gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/)
15:07 Shai : yes
15:18 Jitender : Anuj is surprised by mkt today
15:18 Jitender : rk..strong chances of dwonhill journey frm tomorrow
15:18 Shai : vwap close
15:18 Shai : no edge
15:18 Jitender : *Rk
15:19 Shai : – (15:18) Jitender : Anuj is surprised by mkt today
15:19 Shai : his people bought and still the NF did not rise
15:19 Jitender : hehe
15:19 Kathir :
15:20 Davis : @shai any chance for gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/) up tomorrow? expiry day
15:20 Shai : can’t ssay for a gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/) up
15:20 Shai : But BNF should move tom
15:20 Porus : lets watch last 5 min.
15:20 Shai : triple inside
15:20 Shai : big chances of a trend day (http://vtrender.com/glossary/trend-day/)
15:20 Shai : even NF
15:21 RK : but but they do trend in gaps
15:21 Shai : hope there is no gap (http://vtrender.com/glossary/gap/)
15:21 TP : i am in that 25k combo at 140 .
15:21 Favi : shai 25100 ce ?
15:22 Favi : iv
15:23 RK : sellers (http://vtrender.com/glossary/sellers/) in both
15:23 RK : NF RS as well as selling from VWAP
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15:25 Shai : 26 supp in 25100 ce
15:25 Shai : res at 66
15:25 Shai : can be a buy if it is abv 26 with sl below 7
15:26 Porus : The nf pe OI addition of today has comletely come o .
15:26 Porus : read as ce
15:27 Porus : max OI addition is at 10300 for ce and pe
15:28 Kathir : RK some buying in 25k pe monthly ?
15:29 Porus : NF close 10 pts from RS
15:29 Jitender : bye all
15:29 Kathir : Thanks and bye all
15:30 TP : Bye All.
15:30 Suresh : bye all
15:30 r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening
15:30 Lokesh : Thanks bye all
15:32 Bharat : bye all
15:34 Shai : Bye all
15:34 Sandip : bye all
15:37 Favi : bye all
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