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point is, the Torah's
Does god give man powers? 1,2,3
Better Questions evaluation of the non-Jew is
moshe ben-chaim one of the critical
Better questions 1,4,5 underpinnings of this religion.
Q&A's: Gentile souls 1 If you could clarify it for me I
Sanctifying god's name 2 This paper was written to be an aid
in developing questions when studying would be very appreciative.
Loshon hara 3
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God's plan for avraham 4
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Christianity: OK for christians? 4
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Does God first out of place, and seemingly as they (the commands) are your wisdom
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Rabbi Yochanan: studies with the correct questions. As a Reader: I recently wrote you a and laws as righteous as this entire
"Three keys are in the hand of god great Rabbi once said, "asking the right question, in response to which, you Torah'......."
and are not given over to a messenger, (continued on page 4) referred me to the articles on olam When Abraham changed his ways from
and these are they; the key of rain, the habah, soul and afterlife. The articles idolatry to monotheism over a 40 year
key of life and the key of resurrection. 100's of articles were interesting and enlightening, period of intellectual probing, he had no
The key of rain is derived from the searchable by however they make absolutely no conversion or no new soul blown into him.
verse 'God will open for you His keywords, responses reference to the question of a non-Jew. He simply elevated the level of function of
storehouse of good, the heavens, to to your questions,
participation in live I often hear people throwing out quotes his one soul given to him at birth, and God
give you the rain (for) your land in its online classes, create from Jewish sources that a gentile has then related to him directly. It is foolish to
time'. From where do we learn the key free webpages with your own unique address, no soul, there is no prohibition to steal say otherwise when the Torah itself bears
of life? As it is written, 'And god join letter writing campaigns, volunteer, from a gentile and only Jews merit no support for such theories. It is even
remembered Rachel, and He heard her, discuss topics at the chat area....... olam habah. Rationally it is difficult for more foolish to hypothesize in areas one
and He opened her womb'. The key of the list goes on. me to accept that the Torah does not does not even understand the basics
resurrection is learned from where? give the majority of the people in the (metaphysics, how the soul is created).
'And you will know I am God when I
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Sanctifying
Give Man Powers?
importantly, man's knowledge cannot

God's Name
grasp the immense knowledge in the
physical world. He therefore cannot
(Continued) manipulate what he does not
understand.
In the West they also included the This being true, we must deduce
key of livelihood, as it is written, 'He Reader: I believe I remember reading and the idolater alone."
what could be meant by the statement
opens His hand and satisfieth every in Maimonides' rules for the critical We learn a number of lessons from
"God gives these keys over to a
living thing with its wants". number of Jews present that dictates if, Maimonides' words. He teaches us that
messenger".
It is essential to note that when it above this number you should admit your satisfying the needs of the idolater does
If man does not have the ability to
says that "God never gives over the heritage/belief and suffer martyrdom as not necessarily demand we forfeit our
perform these miracles, what is man's
keys", it means, according to Tosafos, an example, and below this number you lives, even if by doing so we violate
involvement? Tosafos hints at it and
that He never allows a messenger to should deny it in order to preserve God's commands. In such a case where
says only "good" keys are handed. If
have complete dominion over the key yourself and the line. I'd like to know, if I the idolater merely wants his passions
we think about it, "good" refers to
always. But the keys are in fact given didn't dream this, what the number is and fulfilled, one must violate the law, and
justice. That is, what is good for man.
over to a messenger at times. how it was arrived at. not sacrifice his life. The reason is, that
In other words, God gives the keys of
I have a few questions: Mesora: In laws of the "Foundations of there is no defiling of God in such a case.
justice to man somehow, but not via
1) What does Tosafos mean that "He Torah", Chapter V, Laws I, II and III, This is not the intent of the idolater. But if
giving man powers, that is impossible.
never allows a messenger to have Maimonides states the following: he forces a Jew to publicly violate the
We can safely take the next step in
complete dominion over the key V.I: "The entire house of Israel is Torah for violation's sake, then he must
deduction: Although capabilities for
always?" commanded on sanctifying God's great suffer death, and not defile God's name.
miracle working are not in man's hand,
2) Rashi adds that when it says "God name, as it is stated, 'And you shall This is clear from the command "And
however, but the area of justice is, then
opens" it means God Himself, and not sanctify me in the midst of the Jews'. And you shall sanctify me in the midst of the
what is given over is "man's direction"
another. How do these cases of we are (also) warned not to defile Him, Jews." But when alone with the idolater,
of when justice must be employed. At
miracles differ from others? Doesn't as it states, 'and do not defile My distinct since there is no sanctification in the
times, man is given the right to request
God perform all miracles, Himself? name'. What is an example of how one "midst of the Jews", (a quorum of 10)
when birth, rain, and resurrection
What is Rashi teaching? does this? When an idolater rises and there is no obligation to suffer death.
should occur, and God responds to
3) These verses don't seem to teach forces a Jew to (either) violate any one of A rabbi once noted, the fact there is a
man's request. God allows certain men
what the Talmud started out saying, the commandments stated in the Torah, separate verse in the Torah of, "the
to direct these occurrences. He gives
"they are given over....". It actually or face death, one must violate and not be commands by which man should live by
them these "keys". "Keys" means that
teaches how God Himself is killed, as its states, 'the commands by them", teaches that this separate verse is a
these areas are understood by man as
performing all these feats. which man should live by them', live by new permission to violate
something completely closed off to
4) Why is the term "key" used? Why them and not die by them. And if he commandments, and not die. Without
him, "locked", as with a key. Man
not use the term "miracle"? (selects) to die and not violate, this this verse, one would have to die for any
never asks in his prayers that he can fly.
5) Does this teach that God does not person is culpable with his life". command, not just the three. The lesson?
He understands that human flight is
decide everything Himself? V.II: "In what circumstances does this Each and every commandment is
impossible. Here too, man would never
6) Tosafos asks why the key of God's apply? In all other commandments aside essential to man's life, and worthy of
ask God to resurrect someone. It is
anger is not mentioned, as the verse from idolatry, murder and adultery. But death. So why did God make exception,
understood that the dead remain dead.
also refers to it as a "key". He answers in these three commandments, if he tells and allow us to violate the commands? A
But in rare cases, God allows man the
that only those keys of good are you to violate or suffer death, one must "permission" indicates just how essential
key to open up what is normally a
handed over to messengers. What does suffer death and not violate. But this (that each command is. Permission means that
closed possibility. The question of
Tosafos teach here? suffering death is limited to these three we must take into consideration ALL
course is why. Why can't man simply
7) How can it be that God gives over alone) applies only if the idolater intends commands, and that their violation is not
follow the rules; those who die, are
these keys, when we see that in the to satisfy his desires, for example, if he obvious, even to save life. Their violation
dead. What necessitates God's handing
case of Eliyahu's resurrecting the boy, forces you to build his house on Sabbath requires consideration, and permission.
over these three keys at times?
Eliyahu prayed to God to revive him? or cook him foods (on Sabbath), or he Life then, does in fact outweigh violation
Factually, we are saying that God
Eliyahu himself attested through his forces a woman to have intercourse, or of all commands in general. Not because
shows flexibility with man's tolerance
very action the he had no abilities. The similar cases. But if he intends for you to of the dispensibility of the commands,
of what is justice. Normally, one who is
commentators say the reason why violate the command alone, (for no other but actually the opposite. It is because
dead, is dead. However, I believe
Eliyahu laid on the boy was to either reason than to violate the Torah) if just these very commands are so important to
Rabbi Yochanan is teaching us a
warm so as to ready him for revival, or the two of you are there, and there are not our perfection, that God says "break the
unique principle: God recognizes man's
to assist in his concentration during his ten other Jews, then you must violate commands now, so we may keep them
inability to adhere to God's absolute
prayer to God to revive him. So if (and not be killed), but if he forces you to later", by remaining alive. This I believe
system of Justice. God's knowledge is
Eliyahu did nothing but pray, why does violate with ten Jews present, then you is the exact meaning of "Live by them".
absolute, and His system is based on
the Talmud say, "God gives over these must suffer death and not violate, even if We see that man's reason for
flawless knowledge of good and evil.
keys?" he intends you to violate any of the other martyrdom is to demonstrate that our
Man however, is not God., and cannot
8) What does "in His hand" teach commands." lives are meaningless without the system
grasp God's supreme system of justice,
us? Are these miracles any more "in V. III: "And all these matters are of the Torah. In terms of God,
let alone live by it. This being so, man
His hands" than others? dealing in the case when there is no sanctification of His name comes about
is ignorant of many of the rules which
9) Why is the term "messenger" oppression, but in a time of oppression, when man lays down his life instead of
God's designed in His justice system.
used? that is, as a wicked king as violating His word. Such an act of
Ironically, God's justice demands that
The approach to answering these Nevuchadnezzar and his friends, and devotion teaches others that God's word
man have a tolerable existence on
questions must be predicated on the they decree upon Israel to nullify their is absolute truth, and God's truth is the
earth. For this very reason, I believe
idea that God does all. The reason, we religion or a command from the goal of human life.
Rabbi Yochanan teaches that God will
have stated before; man came onto the commands, one must suffer death and not Sanctification of God's name may be
allow His own 100% true system of
scene after the King already established violate, even on one of the rest of the defined as: the demonstration that God is
justice to be compromised for the sake
all laws. This means that man is commandments (aside from the three the source of all reality, and all truth.
of man. Thereby, allowing man to
created, not the creator. As such, man mentioned), whether one is forced in
abide in his own system. Man must
follows God's laws, as his very front of ten Jews or forced between him
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believe we can now answer the Lashon Hara
Give Man Powers?
Rivka Olenick
remaining questions.
Not allowing the messenger to have Shimon, the son of Rabban Gamliel match for marriage, shidduch it is
(Continued) complete dominion also teaches that said: "All my days I grew up among the permissible to accept the information and
the miracle is God's handiwork, not Sages and did not find anything better for protect oneself by acting on the
man's. "Messenger" also teaches that one's person than silence. Study is not the information, but not to accept the
|is all man can do. If Eliyahu would not man is only requesting that which God essential thing - deed is, and whoever information as fact. So, imagine the
see God revive the child when the already decided. A messenger means engages in excessive talk brings on sin." negative information you heard was about
mother was so distraught, specifically one who is in line with God's existing (Pirkei Avos) your sibling - naturally you would not
after she requested of Eliyahu not to plan. This means that man cannot How easy it is to engage in excessive want to accept this information and you
give her a child temporarily (Rashi), it come up with his own plan of action, talk. Do we stop and think about what is might immediately think: this information
would be a poor reflection of God's to which God would comply. Rashi's considered excessive? When we are could be false. You would use the
management of man's affairs if the statement that God does these without alone we think, "I just wish I could talk to information to serve your situation only.
child would remain dead. God a messenger, means to say that man someone." However, from the statement That is exactly how we should feel about
therefore allowed Eliyahu to pray for views the area of life (birth, above by Shimon, "he did not find our fellow Jew, as protective as we would
the child's resurrection, and God sustenance, revival) as completely anything better for one's person than be of our own sibling, by using the
responded. This miracle was clearly controlled by God. Whereas miracles silence." information but still giving the benefit of
not in line with the course of nature, or such as frogs, locusts and the like When we are part of a group/family, the doubt. This means not to use the
even other miracles. In order than man accept some natural explanation. the need for continuous talk is satisfied. I information to act against the person.
be satisfied with God's justice, God nature there being referred to as a can say whatever I want, with my Since we said, that the information should
will deviate at times, and He will not messenger. group/family. And since everyone has not be accepted as fact, feelings of hate or
subordinate man's affairs to nature. At One question I have not answered is something to say, then what I say won't revenge are forbidden.
such times, God reverses matters, how man knows that he can ask for sound so negative, or like gossip and There are five categories of speech
subordinating nature to man's affairs. those miracles that are normally closed maybe won't be repeated, probably won't according to the Rambam. What I refer
Therefore, God allowed Eliyahu to off? When God said to King Solomon, even be remembered. to above is the second category of speech
pray for the child's revival. God (Kings I, 3:5) "ask what I should give In Pirkei Avos, it says: "whoever that includes: false testimony, lies, gossip,
allowed a barren Rachel to give birth, you", it was said to Solomon because engages in excessive talk brings on sin." curses, vile speech and slander. The
and God allowed man to determine knowledge is not something man feels The Rambam says that when a person Torah is specific in what is included in
when rain should fall. he obtains by asking. The only route to speaks excessively, he will surely sin this category.
God created a perfect system of knowledge is study. God therefore because within his words, there will be at The first category is what we are
justice. His knowledge dictates this to informed Solomon that in this one least one concept that was unnecessary to commanded to speak: reading from the
be so. Simultaneously, man must lead a instance, He will circumvent natural mention. So, clearly excessive talk always Torah, Torah study, and looking into its
peaceful life, a life that incorporates the law so he could become instantly, and leads to sin. It leads to forbidden speech, meanings.
ideas of a just God. But man has a miraculously wise to judge the people. loshon hora. What is considered The third category includes
limited view of justice. Therefore, God But where do we see God indicating to excessive? The Rambam says most of information spoken about by everyone,
works within man's system. I feel the Eliyahu that resurrection was possible what we say is superfluous, unnecessary. which is not positive or negative. This is
verse in Genesis 18:17 supports this through prayer? So if most of what we say is unnecessary, called idle talk. Examples of this would
view, "Shall I keep hidden from then it is also excessive. Excessive talk be: How so and so became wealthy (the
Abraham that which I will do?" is an indication of foolishness, as it is most popular "idle" talk!) how a public
(Referring to the Divine system of written: "A fool's voice is known by a figure acted a certain way, how a building
justice which demanded God's
destruction of Sodom). God teaches us
The T.E.A.C.H. program multitude of words."
What about the person/people who
was built, etc.
The fourth category, which can be
here that there are areas of justice at Mesora.org offers free listen to loshon hora, forbidden speech?
Have they sinned by listening? Our
called "derech eretz" the way of the world
- describes acquiring desirable attributes
which even the likes of Abraham could
not determine. web pages to all temples, Sages say that the person who receives and avoiding negative ones, speech about
the loshon hora, forbidden speech - is emulating others with positive traits.
However, God allowing man to
request changes in world order, is
shuls, schools and Jewish more severely affected than the one who Traits that are ethical, intellectual, praise
limited to men with the utmost
knowledge, and not fools. Sometimes
community organizations. speaks it. The Chofetz Chaim adds, that
the punishment for accepting loshon hora
of the wise, their conduct and how
important their virtues are and how we
people generalize the stories from the is more severe than the punishment for should strive to emulate them. And
speaking it! How can the person know conversely, speech that discourages
Talmud, to others, viz., "just as Eliyahu
made miracles, so too my rebbe makes You can create and before that what he is about to hear will undesirable traits, and how not to emulate
miracles". There are three grave errors
these people make. The first is, Eliyahu
update your new web page be loshon hora? Why should he/she be
punished more than the person who first
their behavior and their ways.
The fifth category is left to us. This
didn't perform the miracles, he prayed 24/7, and you also receive thought it, found someone who would
listen to it and then said it? What is the
includes one's personal agenda. One's
livelihood, food, clothing and other needs.
to God, (Kings II, 4:33). It also says
there in 4:35, that after Eliyahu laid a unique, password difference between being affected by A person can speak about these needs as
upon the boy, he then went back to his
own house to pray to God again for his
protected domain name to loshon hora and accepting loshon hora?
A person is affected by the forbidden
much as he/she wants. However, it is
beneficial to minimize even this type of
revival. I believe this is to teach that publicize. All FREE, speech - just by listening to it. It is still
considered forbidden even if by listening
talk when possible.
How encouraging it would be if people
subsequent to Eliyahu's act, God acted
in response to Eliyahu's prayer. It including hosting. to it your intention is not to accept it. invested more energy and effort into the
wasn't any power of Eliyahu which Accepting loshon hora, forbidden speech first category and less energy and effort
revived the boy. The second mistake is a more severe punishment because into the second category!
made is their belief that today's rebbes
are Eliyahu's peers in perfection and
Visit Mesora.org and click although you heard negative information
about a person you still are not permitted
"Lashon Hora kills three people: the
one who speaks it, the one who listens to
are worthy of miracles. And the third the T.E.A.C.H. icon. to accept this information without further
investigation. This applies only with
it, and the person about whom it is
error is their belief in all sorts of stories spoken." Arachin 15b, Jerusalem Talmud
due to mass acceptance of those stories. regard to your business dealings or a (Pe'ah 1:1)
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God's Plan
this context, dualism - believing in more response; Objective reality and God's confessed that they spoke wrongly
than one god. Judaism follows reality, existence are independent of foolish about God and about Moses, and asked

for Abraham which dictates that as we trace the steps


of creation backwards, we must
eventuate at a cause which preceded all
peoples' fabrication of man-gods
throughout history. Just as there was
truth before Christianity, this
that he pray that the serpents be
removed. After Moses prayed, God
told him to create a serpent and to place
Question: Why did God start Judaism other causes, and was in fact the "First objectively true system can in no way it upon a pole and that any who looked
with Abraham? Why was their a need Cause", i.e., God Himself. be corrupted by the fantasies of Jesus' at it would be healed. Moses did so,
for a change? Parenthetically, speculation in matters disciples. Claiming Christianity is and made a brass serpent and placed it
Mesora: Abraham was an individual prior to the first acts of creation are acceptable for Christians means to say on a pole, and any man that was bitten
who understood and could teach the prohibited by the Mishna in Chagiga, that after Christianity was developed, gazed at it and was healed. This is the
right ideas of life, God, and the world. 11b. Similarly, scientists teach that the all reality in the universe conformed to basic story. Keep in mind also that you
God desired that all mankind be aware laws we use to understand the world Christianity's tenets. This is absurdity must keep to the main issues if you are
of truths, and follow lives discovering cannot be applied to studying anything taken to new heights. going to successfully answer an area.
ideas about the world, and ultimately prior to the Big Bang. Since these laws Distinguish between main questions
about God. This is man's purpose, as is (cause and effect) at that time were not and side questions.
seen from man's exclusive gift of a yet established, we are inherently Formulating The main questions on this section
mind. No other being has this faculty.
Abraham spent many years
crippled from pondering this era. This
truth that the scientists arrived at
Better Questions are: What was the fault of the people?
Why did God choose to give "fiery
pondering the universe, arriving at through reasoning, complies with the (Continued) serpents" as a punishment here, as
profound ideas of philosophy, and Mishna we received on Sinai. opposed to something else? What does
monotheism. Since Abraham followed By definition, there can be only one question is 90 percent of the answer." the added affliction of "fiery" serpents
what God's original plan was for man, a "First Cause". Christian dualism, (i.e., You will notice that many times come to accomplish? Why did Moses
life in pursuit of truth, God desired that the father, son and holy ghost) is a when asking a question, you already have to make a serpent if the people
the rest of the world benefit from theory which goes against reason. The have more information than you may already confessed? Why put it on a
Abraham's findings. He therefore Torah does not say anywhere that think, and by using that information in pole? Why did Moses make it out of
selected him to become a leader of a Christianity is acceptable for Gentiles. your question, you will more likely "brass"? How did looking at this
nation, a nation which would be Conversely, the Torah prohibits Jew and arrive at the correct answer. For serpent heal?
provided with a system (the Torah) for Gentile alike in the area of knowing example: When you see a flat tire on Rashi said, "let the serpent who was
guiding man towards these truths. This God. It is an open verse seen by anyone you friends car you can ask "what punished due to his evil talk (the
is expressly stated in Genesis, with clear vision, (Exod. 20:20) "Do not happened?" But you already know section dealing with Adam and Eve)
18:19,"For I know (him) that he will make with me gods of silver, and gods what happened. He probably drove his come and exact punishment from those
command his children and his of gold do not make to yourselves". We car over some sharp object. The who spoke evil. Let the serpent come,
household after him and they will keep just read this last week. The person you question should really be formulated as to who everything tastes as one, and
the way of God to do charity and have been talking with is not following "What did you drive your car over?" exact punishment from those who
justice...." reason, nor the Torah's own words. God By asking the question in this way, you denied the good. That one thing
Abraham had a very unique mind and Himself says do not follow dualism, and will start pondering what could have (manna) was changed for them to
not all of mankind could arrive at truths this is part of the Noachide laws which done this. You've directed your many things." According to Rashi, the
without the guidance he had. The all Gentiles must follow. Again God thoughts directly to the area that will Jews received a corrective measure
system of knowledge enclosed in the says, "Hear O Israel, God is your God, contain your answer - namely, the type through snakes because of evil talk.
Torah affords mankind the ability to God is One". Gentiles must accept God, of sharp object. If you would have However, this isn't the first time
discover the profound ideas as Abraham and all that the Torah says about Him. persisted with your first type of someone spoke evil. Why didn't
did. Man is commanded to be the He is One. question, "what happened?", you Miriam receive snakes when she spoke
teacher in his home, as he is more There are a few essential problems would have placed your mindset in an against Moses? Why didn't the Jews
available to spend hours in daily study. with this person's statements. First of astonished state, as opposed to an receive snakes long before this? They
He is most fit to teach and direct his all, he accepts a dualism for Christians. inquisitively directed state. Being spoke evil before.
household. Similarly, the Jews This means that God is not independent astonished sets up the emotional state These are the basic questions. It is
(Abraham's nation) are entrusted with - He has needs, another god. In truth, in a person to await a response from very possible to work with them as
the study of Torah to teach the rest of God has no needs, as reason dictates, another. What we really want, is to they are. But if we make slight changes
mankind. and as Ramban points out on the verse position the mind to answer the to their structure, we will direct
quoted above, "God needs no other". By question. This can only come from ourselves closer to the answers.
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of an emotion of outletting their feelings Moses to create a replica of the serpent you say that the copper snake had a
Formulating through speech. Had there been another so that they could stare at it in order to special power to heal? Here too Rashi
Better Questions incident in Scripture where an
individual, or people, had outletted their
contemplate their problem properly,
thereby removing from themselves
asks, "Can a snake heal?" and
continues to explain that when the Jews
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emotions in this manner, and were on a their incorrect notions. Placing it upon subordinated their hearts to G-d then
to their structure, we will direct level for God to administer a corrective the pole facilitated the direction of their He would cure them.The same is true
ourselves closer to the answers. measure, we would witness another thoughts towards God, Who is regarding the hands of Moshe. From
Remember, all of the information we case of "fiery serpents". However, this is figuratively "upon high". the question of Rashi we can clearly
need to answer these questions is in the the only account where this specific In summary, the following steps deduce that he rejected the notion of
passages. flaw occurred, and therefore, the only should be taken when approaching an ascribing non-natural powers to
account where fiery serpents comes to area of Torah Sheb'csav: 1) Know physical objects. It is important to
The main question should be correct the situation. where the area begins and ends remember the Chizkiyahu destroyed
addressed first. Why snakes? We know With this information, we can also 2) Understand the area thoroughly the copper snake when the people
why. They spoke evil. So we must ask answer another question: Why the 3) Distinguish between main points began to attribute powers to it. The jar
more directly: "What was the difference additional aspect of "fiery"? The reason and side points of manna and many other objects were
in the evil talk of the Jews here, that is because they denied the good of the 4) Ask yourself how this area differs hidden for the same reason.
they received the snakes? After asking manna. This is what Rashi was pointing from all other areas. This will help to G-d did not give us any objects to
the question this way, you direct to. If there were two aspects to their point you towards the main topics cure us or help us with our problems.
yourself at their actions for the answer. punishment (serpents and fiery), there 5) Formulate questions clearly using He told us that our fate would be
You know that in other cases the Jews must be a reason for both. So "serpents" as much information as you have to determined purely by the quality of our
complained to God and Moses, and they comes to correct evil speech, and "fiery" work with faith, obedience to His will and level of
didn't receive snakes, let alone "fiery" comes to correct their denial of the good 6) If the area deals with God's perfection. If the stones of the ephod
snakes. So speaking evil per se cannot manna. Tangentially, Miriam wasn't relationship to man, detect either man's had the power to cause pregnancy why
be the cause of their extraordinary punished with serpents because her fault and see how the punishment fits did Channa pray so bitterly and offer
punishment. What is different here? degrading talk wasn't to outlet an the crime, or look into God's actions the child to G-d's service? Why were
The difference is that it never emotion. Contained in her words was an towards man to understand what He there any barren women? It is not
mentions anywhere else that the people incorrect notion regarding how God was improving upon mentioned that Channa or the woman
"grew tired on the way". This first relates to man. She however expressed 7) If the area deals with mitzvos who hosted Elisha swallowed any dust
passage seems extraneous at first. But this with a boastful overtone. Thus, she (commandments), if they are positive in order to become pregnant. This
now, rephrase the question using this fell prey to two faults; 1) She commands, look into man's nature to attitude of course represents a complete
information from the first passage: misunderstood how God relates to see what they affect; and if they are distortion of mitzvohs as the Rambam
"What is it in the fact that they were Moses, (as compared to herself) 2) She negative commands, then they are explains in regard to using mezzuah for
tired, that the ensuing evil talk should be gave in to the feeling of haughtiness. coming to control a natural disposition medicinal purposes. On this point all
punished with serpents?" You can Since Miriam faulted in these two, God of man which must be tempered. intelligent people should agree.
almost immediately make the corrected her in both. He taught her how Finally it is not our burden to
connection that their evil talk was the His relationship with Moses differed disprove an idea which is contrary to
direct result of being tired. Meaning, from His relationship to her, and He Torah and common sense
that their evil talk was unjustified in gave her leprosy which lowers ones self
esteem. This is another example of how False Notions: understanding of Torah. It is the burden
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of a complaint, 2) an outlet for the What about the question as to why
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tempered and breaks something. Instead
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