Orals For Marine Engg

date 14/12/2012, dg shipping
internal:-banerjee, external:- Mukherjee (he is steam specialist came for steam guys one steam guy but
he was absent so he taken my)
fn3
1. what are the functions of STCW name them and explain. which function is common for both deck and
engine side.
2. what is A/III/1 and A/III/2 explain in brief.
3. as per STCW 2010 what are changes made in A/III/1 and A/III/2. name them.
4. your life boat got crack on hull how to repair, there is a repair kit provided in life
boat what all items it contain.
5. on load release and hydro static release difference, at what height onload release is done, what is the
danger if one of the hook does not release, how the hooks are connected, construction and explain.
fn4
1. difference between seperator, purifier, clarifier, explain the difference, how de-sludging operation
takes place in purifier.
2. function of the tie-rod and pintching screw.
3. working of VIT, how it is attached and function, advantage.
4. MAN B&w fuel pump lead how to take.
5. materials of Cylinder liner, turbine casing, condenser tube plate.
fn5
1. working of brushless alternator.
2. draw and explain the working of AVR.
3. difference between open circuit and short circuit.
4. working principle of impress current method, what are all material used as anode
in this type of system.
5. working and use of capictor and rectifier(SCR).
fn6
1. PMS system and condition monitoring system,explain in brief, role of CEO, SEO and 4th enginner
officer, what software was used on your last ship for PMS, give any one example of CMS on your ship,
2. working principle of centrifugal pump, function of volute casing. what is diffuser, on which pump it is
used on ship.
3. working principle of gear and screw pump, where these pumps are used on ships.
4. testing of fire detectors, types and how tested, which type of detector not used on boilers.
some more questions were there, post it later on...

result:- cleared function 5 & 6.
12/02/2012
EXT:trassi : INTERNAL:dutta
12/12/12
ALL FUNCTION
FUNC 3:
1.WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR NOT SAFE TO SAIL ON RO-RO VESSEL?(10PONITS)
2.WHERE D PUMP ROOM LIGHTING SWITCH IS LOCATED?
3.WHAT IS THE REGULATION REGARDIND CRUDE OIL TANKER ENTERING IN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES?
4.CARGO TANK ENTRY PROCEDURE-ORDER WISE WHICH EQUIPMENT TO BE USED FIRST?
5.MAJOR HAZARD OF LNG
6.DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TLV-AW & TLV-STEL
7.DEFINE BOILING POINT OF LIQUID?
8.WHY SDNR VALVE FITTED ON DISCHARGE SIDE OF COMPRESSOR
FUNC:4
1.RTA FUEL PUMP TIMNING
2.REFER SAFETIES
3.DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TEV OF FRIDGE & A.C
4.HOW TO CONTROL DEHUMDIFICATION & HUMDIFICATION IN AC PLANT
5.PEAK & COMPRESSION PRESSURE OF SMC ENGINE AS PER NEW CIRCULAR
FUNC:5
1.WHERE ZENER DIODE USED ON TANKER?WHICH EQUIPMENT?WHAT IS PURPOSE OF USING?
2.MCB TRIPS?HOW TO TEST THEM?
3.MSB & ESB SAFETIES?REGULATIONS
4.WINDING TEMPERATURE?
FUNC:6
1.WHAT WILL YOU DO IF COMPRESSOR BURSTING DISC FAILED IN OPEN SEA?
2.HOW WILL YOU START MAIN SEA WATER PUMP?
3.WHAT IS USE OF BOOSTER PUMP & HEAT EXCHANGER IN LNG
Date: 13/12/12, Place: OLD MMD, Internal: Bhosle, External: Tarassi

1. What all ships you sailed and Which all engines you worked on?
2. What are the hazards on Chemical tankers?
Note: Not satisfied with Fire, Reactivity, Environmental, Health...
3. Which all chemicals needs water padding? Shows with diagrams the loaded vessels with such
chemicals and ready for sailing and also for discharging?
Note: White and yellow phosphorus is not enough, he is looking for third one as well..
4.what are the three conditions in which Static electricity is produced?
Note: Plz update if u know
5.Your action on bursting of Main air compressor “Bursting disc” on inter cooler in normal condition?
Cross question: How will you check which tube is leaking?
6. Your ship received a message from the office to prepare for the Main bearing survey, you being 2/E on
that ship explain how you will proceed for it?
Note: Mind the point Immobilisation taken from the Captain.
7. Similarly as above, you received message to measure the timing of fuel pump on RTA Engines, You
being second engineer explain how will you proceed?
8. What is Ballast? And where it is kept on bulk Carriers?
9. Draw Bilge alarm fitted in the Bulk carrier? Show with the help of diagram how the alarm is activated?
10. What all safeties provided on the Refer system?
Result: Negative
10/12/2012
Orals at DG shipping
Taken by Mr.Aneja and internal Mr.Datta
First attempt
Safety
1. What do u understand by convention,protocol,amendment and code.
2. What do u understand by certificate of class. When is it issued. Validity of certificate. Under what basis
is class withdrawn.
3. Explain isps and what certificate is issued under isps.
4. What is do understand by IACS.What is CSR wrto IACS.
5. What are goal based standards.
6. What is the width and height for double hull.
7. Draw curves of statical stability.
8. What is angle of loll. Represent it on the above curve.
9. Cavitation of propeller and how to avoid.
10. Purpose of bulbous bow.
Motor/General
1. Type of main engine worked on. sfoc and cylinder lube oil consumption.
2. Exhaust valve opening and closing timing. I said it opens at 65 deg before bdc and closes at 50 degree
after bdc.so cross questionWhy it opening and closing angles are not same.
3. How much should the exhaust temperature at the inlet to the turbocharger should be limited to and
why
4. Liquid ring pump.
5. What do you understand by variable frequency centrifugal motors.
6. Tail end shaft survey interval.
Electrical
1. What do you understand by rms value and relation with peak value.
2. Power for 3 phase supply.
3. Brushless alternator diagram and explanation
4. Diesel electric propulsion diagram and explanation.
5. Thermistor and thyristor working principle and application on board.
6. Relation between number of poles and speed of motor.
MEP
1. Boiler survey schedule and what all checks to be carried out during boiler survey.
2. What action to be taken if boiler tube is leaking.
3. Action to be taken when one unit piston is running hot.
4. Boiler water test.Just name them.
5. Crankcase inspection.
6. Ship has come to anchor after a long voyage. In rounds you find that two foundation bolts have
broken. To what will you attribute this to. What action.
Result- Cleared all 4.
funct 5 only by Pakrassi sir.

1.Draw an AVR and tell its working.Functions of thyristors and diodes in it.What to check in the alternator
when gen. gets overspeeded.
2.What all checks to be made on the shore connection box.What is the material of the outer part of the
shore cable.
Ans-It is PVC and nothing else.This ans was given by Mr Pakrassi only.
3.What is soft stsrter,its working and uses.
4.what is piezoelectric effect.Full block diagram how the echo is produced,received and displsyed on the
bridge.
Result PASS.Thats all with class 2 and a great bye.
10/12/2012
orals at DGS, first attempt
Mr. aneja and Mr. dutta
i had not entered the details of prep course n simulator on exn 45, got furious over it,
asked me to produce the certificates for same. was not carrying them,showed him the xerox copies
attached to form it,was satisfied
types of ships done : lpg fully refrigerated
engines: mitsubishi 7UEC60ls
1. cross section of lpg tank
2. temp at which cargo carried, hw is temperature maintained
3. pressurized lpg have capsule structure. why?? pressure at which cargo carried in them.
4. fire fighting arrangements on deck and in cargo tanks of lpg.
5. hw to calculate the amount of dcp required for deck fixed fire fighting.
6. material of tanks for lpg n lng
7. igc code
8. curves of statistical stability.
9. solas/marpol amendments to enter from 2013 onwards
10 mlc in detail,chapters,certificate
11. fixed co2 system,hw quantity calculated, weight of co2 measured, requirement for measurement of
weight.
12. bottle test pressure and storage pressure. why test pressure 4 times of storage pressure.
13. hw will u make sure 85 % of co2 releases in 2 minutes
14. co2 room arrangement.
15. last engine specification.
16. hydro dynamic n hydrostatic lubrication.
17. cross head pin lubrication for sulzer n man b&w
18, type of boiler, material of tubes n plating
19, boiler survey hw often, wht all checks
20 tail shaft survey hw often.
21. purifier rpm,effect of sp gravity on size of gravity disc.
22. piston running hot, hw will u come to know, causes,immediate action n measures taken.
23. thermister
24. battery charging circuit,
25 full wave rectifier.
26. condition monitoring n hw it is applicable for electrical appliances
27. msb safeties
28. crankshaft deflection
29 annealing/normalising
30. stcw 2010
31. axial flow pumps-describe, application
32. light spring diagram and its characteristics
33. hw thrust transferred to hull, arrangement of thrust block
34. difference between holding down bolts of thrust block and main engine.
few more questions i can't recall.
result cleared function 5 and 6,,,,,thanks to the group
10 dec banerjee and badwal

fn 5
1. how electricity is generated.

2. draw lines of magnetic force on ac and dc generator.
3. how 3phase 440v convert to 1phase 220 v.
4. what type of test on motor.
(lot of cross questioning )
fn 4b steam
1. type of boiler u know.

2. type of superheater arrangement.
3. what type of boiler on ur ship. draw boiler of ur ship.
4. improved safety valve.
5. draw impulse and reaction blade.
6. draw moving and fixed blades and show steam path.
7. is dist between top and bottom of blade between consecutive 2 blades same or diff. with reason.
8. what are boiler water test on ur boiler.
9. how to do phosphate test on boiler. ( i answered todays modern method, no reaction)
10. superheater fire. reasons.
11. caustic embrittlement.
12. where naoh acts specially in drum.
13. where doors are there on boiler. show where and how secured.
14. where on steam drum.( i said nowhere in our HP boiler. I think he accepted.)
fn 4b motor, 3 and 6
Date 10/12/12
Int. Data ext. Pakrasi
Was in good mood, asked me wht was ur failing questions, told him few.
Aked me wht type of vessel u sailed on said only product tanker, then he started
1. Wht is short cycling in refer system. Wht r the reasons & there remedies?
Lots of cross qstions. Finaly got tick.
2. Why we decorb the unit? Wht inspections u will carried out on piston & p-rings losts of cross question
got tick
3. Wht is APR ? wht is glasing? Got tick
4. Wht is fatige? Draw fatige crack prapogation dia.
5. Wht is diff between statutory cert. & class cert.? Tell me one class cert. Which class only issues? Got
confused here
And finaly golden worlds was heard ok go u r pass!!!
Thanks guys for ur help.
continued..
fn 3,4b(motor) and 6 ( all hotch potch)
1. type of propeller on ur ship.

2. how keyed propeller is fixed on boiler.
3. show how propeller fixed on taper. draw.
4. what if we need to push up propeller more.
5. what is pilgrim nut. draw .
6. how locking plate is secured on it.
( dont know what he want)
7. how wt. of rudder taken in pintleless rudder)
8. draw rudder bearing.
9. how it is connected to stock. Key is not the full answer. he says key will fall, how else it is secured.
10. what type of engine on ur ship.
11. what is loop and uniflow scavenging.
12. explain in diag. how scavenging takes place. draw properly.
12. in which scavenging length of piston is more.
13. how air stops and fuel starts during starting of engine.( limit switch in telegraph and its explanation is
not what he wants,)
14. type of telegraph on ur ship.
15. co2 new practical regulation.
16 how actuator and valve is working during disch of co2.
17 what is it mechanism , draw and how to operate manually.
18. How lifeboat is lowered in water. We release dead man handle, how speed is slowly increased while
lowering n we usually adjust speed with handle. How speed is reduced by handle.( dont tell him
centrifugal brake and 36 m/min. thing. its not the answer what he is lukin for this question.
19. how thrust is transferred from propeller to engine.
20 power card for broken piston ring.
21. how bedding is done on propeller.( just persian blue and marking answer he is accepting)
may be some more quest. but i dont remember.
answere him nearly all. but he stops u in between and jumps to nest quest. so u dont knwo whether ur
rite or wrong.
Result. Fn 5(electricity)
11th nov internal Datta, External pakrasi
func 4b
1. draw indicator cards, indicating after burning on them. what r the resons and effect of after burning.
2. revese osmosis method, chemical treatment for RO plant.
3. stotch boiler diagram.
4. thrust pad diagram.
func5
1. electric propulsion dia, speed control in electric propulsion.
2. shore connection safeties, what type of cables is the material.
3. soft starter daigram.
4. what is commutator. how commutator segments r attached to the shaft.
func 3
1. civil liability.
2. ISPS, What is CSR.
3. draw bulbous bow. how r the stiffeners connected.
4. types of anchors, what type of chain is used. how do you determine the length of chain.
func 6
1. what is IACS, name the members.
2.how is thermal insulation done for the accomodation bulkhead.
two more question i dont remember
07/12/12
Mr Dutta & Mr Pakrassi
was the last candidate for the day & he is in a hurry & started with Fn4 as usual
Fn4
1) derating of engine? why its done & what is done? what info from a sulzer engine Name plate.
2) How bore cooling insulation tubes are attached? spring fitted----how they look like?
3) what Sulzer gained with tie-rods being closer to centre line? tired to explain but didn't mention
bending which is I think what he's looking for
4) thrus pad-- draw how a pad looks like. how its connected & where does this wedge rest & 1 more x-q
all cross in this Fn
Fn3
1) Anti-fouling paint convention what u know? what is the inert binder used to prevent orgonotin from
entering into sea? who tests the paints etc etc
2) ISM-- started with when it entered & why---later asked why & From when Risk assessment is
mandatory & explain it
3) bulbous bow internal stiffening
4) his patent anchor & chain question. now how will u calculate chain link length. said abt equipment no
& calculations but didn't mentioned ny formula. asked can u cal for ur prev ship-- said yes I can but I
dont remember the formula.
Fn5
1) Diesel electric propulsion adv
2) pole changing motor
3) commutator
4) dont remember
Fn 6
1) IACS & its members? what are the rules that they form called?
2) diff between class cert & stat cert ? a few x-q's
3) grades of steel onboard? HTS what adv & dis adv?
4) dry dock checks before flooding
result is cleared Fn 6 & yeah got the engine to start position
ORALS TAKEN BY PAKRASSI ALONE (INTERNAL GADKAR)

6TH DEC
ORALS STARTED @ 4 PM
HE ASKED ME:
1. ISPS, I TOLD ALL I KNEW, WHAT IS DOCUMENT UNDER SHIP SECURITY ..... PUT A CROSS AFTER
LOT OF TALKING
2. DRAW BULK CARRIER CROSS SECTION
SHOW ME HOW IS THE WING TANK CONNECTED TO THE HULL
DID NOT ACCEPT THE SIDE SHELL FRAME OR BRACKET
I SAID I WILL FIND OUT SIR
3. ISM AMMENDMENTS- THEN IN RISK ASSEMENT GOES DEEP. ASK ALL I KNEW BUT HE WANTED IT IN
THE LANGUAGE OF ISM. DRAW RISK MATRIX, AND HOW DID UR COMP DID RISK ASSESSMENT.
4. ANCHOR. DRAW IT
EXPLAIN HOW IS THE MOVEMENT OF FLUKES W.R.T. SHANK.
I SAID I WILL FIND OUT
HE GAVE ALL OF US TODAY TO FIND OUT THE ANSWERS.
AT THE END TODAY HE GAVE 7-8 CANDIDATES 1 OR 2 FUNCS.
EXCEPT ME
MUJE FAIL KAR DIYA, DID NOT ACCEPT MY ANSWERS LATER, HE AGAIN WENT IN DEEP TILL I GAVE
UP.
03/12/12
trassi and dutta
appeared for function 3 and 5
cleared both
fn3
first he told me to write down all the questions from previous attempts
1) a taker is on ballast voyage after discharging what all requirements are there for cargo tanks as per
classification society.
told him that the tank should be kept inerted and under positive pressure.
2)all tank atmosphere gauging instruments and their minimum quantity required onboard
3)what is close up survey??
4) mlc
5)ig system safties
6)tank gas freeing and entry procedures all steps
fn5
1)types of fuses
2)brushless alternator
3)working of alternator
4)working of single phase motors
5)avr
thats it done with class 2
27.11.2012
all r mixed up..dont remenber exactly which one is frm which function..but here r d questions.. (external-
Mr. Ghosh, Internal- Mr. gadkar but he didnt ask any question)
1.how many type of cargo iur product tanker is cerified to carry n where u can find all these details..
2. diff. between tabkscope n explosion mtr..
3. rudder diagram
4. wht is intrincically safe equip. n ckt diagram
5. what is interferance fit, how to fit them n examples in e/r
6. wht is synchronous motor n examples
7. d.c. motor speciality n examples
8. blr flaring tool diagram
9. blr safety v/v diagram
10. auto. air starting v/v diagram
11. speciality of strg.gear overload
12. corrogated bulkhead figure
13. how to check ech. v/v actuator is working fine.
14. e/r crane load test
15. diff. between TEV of refer and a.c
16. diff. between insulated neutral and earthed neutral..
17. some abbrivation which i dont remember like SSAP..and so on
18. how to order a pipe with out IMPA AND ISSA code book..
19. diff nad similarity between schedule 40 and schedule 80..
20. wht is cat fines, where it come frm, how to remove them? n wht is the max value
21. wht is d indication if pv v/v stuck n wht 2 do if it got stuck?
22. what is PS
thats all d questions i remember.. question r simple but d problem comes when he dig u deeper.
6.12.12 function 6 pakrasi int dutta

1.tailshaft key diagram how key attached to the keyway
2.drydock interval which statutary cert. is compulsory to check after finishing d-d
3.reciprocating bilge p/p diagram
4.taking over duties of second engr.
result pass
06-12-12
int-gadkar,ext-pakrashi
fun6
1-when taking over as a 2nd engr what all things u check
i told first we will follow ism familarisation check list and then regarding safety items
such as all iopp,iapp,sewage,oil record book etc check validity of above certificates
regarding maint will what is due and do we have necessary spare parts then cross ques that from which
document u will get critical spare parts list ans was safety management document finally he ticked
question
2-economiser tube leaking action to be taken
i started with stop engine keep circulating pump running open manhole door check which tube is leaking
then we have to plug it or we can use long stud and will put nut on both ends cross ques was suppose it
is circular in shape then tell me i was not getting his ques so he put ques mark
3-four stroke bolt why fatigue take place
i told him during comp and exh stroke bolt is under tension while during power stroke it is under
compression so cyclic reversal of stress takes place and bolt under go fatigue stress but cross ques wat at
what compressive force i had no clue about it
so again he put ques mark
4-paint scheme which company i did not know so again he asked surface prepration i
told we will do sand blasting or shot blasting or hydroblasting his cross ques was shot blasting how u do i
told him stell balls under high pressure bombarded on the surface then he asked like this there will be
dents on the surface he asked what standard i told sa2.5 again cross ques that how u do painting i told
by airless spray machine again cross ques working of it i had no idea
finally he told that 2,3,4 answers are not satisfactory go and find out
after 1 hour again i went i told airless spray machine has got electrically driven hyd pump which drives a
piston which sucks from paint container and thru hose and spray gun it is sprayed on the surface he told
it is not like this again i said sir there is one more procedure by compressed air which is drivem medium
which drives piston above which paint is there under comp it is sprayed on hull he said ok thats it
gadkar called me how was the oral i didnot say anything he said ok u r passed in fun 6
thats it friend oral was not that good but it was my day
thanks to god
thanks to manish yogendra adil vishal and sachin and every member of this group
so guys keep posting and best of luck
04/12/2012
Trassi and gadkar
Fn 4B
Result cleared, done with class II
Trassi took some guys orals with dutta and then moved to Gadkar's place. 2 guys were missing. Then he
came and called " MAN " with a smile ( I guess he wanted to say even B & W) :-)
Anyway he looked in a good mood day today as many people cleared today.
He asked me to write down previous questions of his and from Mr. S.K. Aneja.
Wrote down 7-8 questions.
He then asked:
1) Why do we specify or say 85% MCR ? ( Why not 100 % MCR? )
Two reasons -i) The VIT is maximum advanced at 85 % load, where max peak pr is reached and max
power can be developed.
ii) A graph of sfoc v/s % power shows sfoc reduces till 85 % and thereafter increases again.
He asked " Are you referring to propeller curve ?"
I said " No sir, I am referring a curve (point ii) from my notes.
2) What is the fuel standard?

Ans. - ISO 8217:2010
3) What is difference between MCC and MEB engines?

Ans. - MEB has all electronic parts EXCEPT the Exhaust v/v actuation, which is still cam driven with a
smaller chain but the engine is compacter than MCC as other mechanical parts are done away with.
4) What is Breaking in and running in ?

Ans. - Breaking in is done to remove the asparities from a new set of Piston rings and Liner as they are
manufactured separately. Running in is done to smoothen out the surface remaining after breaking in so
as to provide good sealing between liner and piston rings.
He then asked " So is running in done before breaking in?"

Ans. - No sir, first we do breaking in and then running in.
He then said to wait outside .
later Gadkar called and said, " How was your exam? Good? "
I said- " Sir, very good". :-)
he then looked at me and said, " Very Good ?"
I thought better tone down the mood and said " sir, good".
he said ok, go you are passed.
So finally done with class II. now no, looking back at MMD for a very long time , except to collect my new
COC :-)
Thank you everyone.

One advice- It is better if everyone prepares his own notes of what he reads from others notes as well as
facebook. I have seen people read from others xerox notes. Though obviously those notes are no doubt
good, we need our own.It really helps.
Thank you everyone for their contribution. All the best.
04/12/12...DG shipping
Dutta/trassi
3. 4b & 6
Cleard: 6
F3:
1. What is parcel tankers.how many tank. How many manifold.
2. How static electricity is avoided. N theory of static electricity..
3. Whst is ganwale.
4. How will com to know weather 85% co2 is released. How wil u check.
F4:
1. Salzure pump rta fuel timing. How wil u clean. What is used.
2. What instrument is used to check thr spray pattern while testing fuel injector testing.
3. More i dnt remember....
F6:
1. Bilge pump not taking suction from aft.
2. Name one chem addded in cool water and advantages.
3. What checks on connecting tod and pisyon of 4s.
4. More i dnt rem'ber
Wil post later
3rd Dec`12
Int:Dutta,Ext:Trassi
3rd attempt
Write down previous questions......

Fn 3:
wat all types of ship,u hv done....
1. After discharging d cargo..in ballast voyage, wat is the requirement of classification society regarding
cargo tanks.....
2. Wat all instruments to be carried, while entering in a cargo tank of a chemical tankers...
3. Wat arrangement is dere to prevent flame entering into cargo tanks.....
Fn 6:
1.wat all checks to be done Before flooding....check for stern tube.....hw to test stern tube for any
leakage.....wat all checks to be done for rudder....
2.Top Bracing arrangement for ur last ship....
3.Types of threads.
4. describe ME-B engine
4th Dec'12
Int:Dutta,Ext:Trassi
Write down previous questns ...wrote 7-8 questns of Dattar and few of trassi and he asked me all
almosst from Dattar's quesns.
4b:
Engines worked on:6s60MC,7s60MC
1:Diff between MCC and MEB?
2:As per 8217:values of CCR/CCAI? significance of each?
ans:CCR -18-20%-indicates difficulty to burn plus fouling nature of fuel.requires frequent cleaning of
T/C,EGB
CCAI-Calculated carbon aromacity Index 870-higher the value indicates fuel has long ignition delay.
3:Difference between Running IN and BREAKING IN??
ans: Breaking IN is first phase and is followed by running In ....Breaking In lasts for only 20-24
hrs(required for proper bedding of ring and liner...asperities to be broken & influences the cylinder
condition later .Runnin In has a 1800-2000 hrs period with increased cylinder lubrication dosage to abt
150-200% of basic rate and thn gradually reducing it.Running In achieves proper sealing of faces. for
breaking IN increase load to 55%MCR for atleast 2 hrs and then gradually to 100% MCR in next 20-24
hrs.keep cylinder lub to be above 150% during this time.This is as per MAN B&W 6 S60MC manual.
4: Why Pmax -Pcomp < 35 bar?
ans :piston ring breakage,high thermal loads,high wear of liner.etc,
Fn 6
1:Chain tightening procedure?checks after retightening?
told him check camshaft timing by pin gauge…unit no1 at TDC marks on camshaft and one on housing
should match .limiting value given in manual corresponding to 2 deg timing misalignment....check it is
below that value.
2:Crankshaft deflection : looking at the table (values )wht conclusions? told him vertical n horizontal
misalignment.and also told hi m the checks on reading,..T+B=P+S.
3.Main air Compressor HP stage v/v testing in front of surveyor?

a:Close discharge valve on oulet of compressor and move away from compressor ...start the compr.
4:Cross blowdown of Gauge glass?
REsult:Pass all.Cleared class 2.

Thanks to all the members who have contributed to this group and all my friends.CHEERSS:)keep
Posting....
5/12/12
internal:gadkar ext:bedekar
fun 5:
1. avr
2.starters ckts
3.transformer working,maintenance onboard
4.copper loss
5. alternator air gap
6.tests on a motor.
some more dont rmmbr..
fun 4b:
1.manoeuvring dia. of ur ship
2.alpha lubricator-principle,operation
3.gen conrod checks
4.dia. of main engine means showing piston ,liner, scavenge manifold, blowers nonreturn air flow how?..
5. stuffing box.
6.reversing how in smc
some more..will post
fun:3
1.ig dia. with all alarms trips...pv breaker,valve settings
2.compressor ,air bottle safeties
3.steering gear safeties
4.boiler ..which type n details..
5.diff. btween generator crankcase n refer crankcase oil
some more..pheww
fun6:
by dis tym it ws almost 1730 n 1 guy ws remainin..
1. purifier desludging
1-2 more questions also answered...
later gadkar called in.
said u passed 4b n safety..
05/12/12
internal:gadkar ext:bedekar
third attempt
fn3:
random firing of question'
write previous question i wrote the difficult question of pakrasi,
he started asking que from this
1.diff between statutory&class certificate, name them,i m unable to recall 5th statutory certificate , he is
giving me hint also.
2.draw rudder i was totally confused,i m able to draw only unbalanced,
3.then he start asking me copt make , boiler make & specification, copt starting procedure with safety
write down,all trips of copt ,there value, ig plant ,trips, expalin
safeties in ig, value of pv v/v, pv breaker, cold climate precaution for pv breaker.
4. pump room safety,what all equipment in p/p room.
5. emergency gen requirement
6.how to calibrate o2 analyzer.
some more i will post later if i remember
fn 4
1.draw manoeuvrings dia of last ship , which is ME ENGINE.
2.decarb safety , write down.
3. previous que with ans, write down
then rapid firing of ques
ur last ship m/e all bearing clearance, be specific in answering dont bullshit, else he will get angry,
a/e all clearance. how lo flow from p/p to piston. a/e specification in detail
specialty of new generator, what imp check after decarb,i told check length of all hyd tightened bolt, he
got impressed by this ans.
draw boiler c/s,, how to check leaky tube,
draw dia of purifier, explain, how bowl is closing, function of pairing disc,etc
property of lube oil in refrigeration,i answered immiscible, he told me go and ask outside
, i went out and asked all were saying, immiscible,
but i ans miscible, then i gave explanation also for same
oral went for around 2 hours.
some more ques i will post later
done with class 2
best of luck to all member
keep posting
thanks, to samant sir,adil, yogi, bhausaheb and all L.B.S colleagues.
05/12/2012
Internal : Banneerjee , external : pakrasi
5th attempt
Bannerjee was not in his place so the orals were taken by pakrasi and the results were declared by him .
Function : 4B
1) First of all he asked me which n all engines I had done so I told him all MAN B&W MC’s so he frowned
, then I told him I have read about sulzer , that was myself hitting nail on my own coffin, so he asked me
what are the sulzer series , told him RD, RND , RND-M, RLA , RLB, then came the RTA . so he asked me
what and all are the differenced in RND AND RTA, told him what I had read from arhana . so ok .
2) You have got a new Thick shell white metal bearing onboard and now you need to check whether you
can use , or how will you ascertain that it conforms to your pin ??? I was like kya bolloo , k as in this
forum we had discussed about Prussian blue I told him we’ll carry out that test , but then he told that
would be for one half at a time what about the whole bearing as a unit, I could’nt think of an answer ,
but he gave me the answer “ you have to assemble the bearing into the conrod and tighten the conrod
bolts with out the pin and with inside micrometer you need to check the dimensions and compare it with
your pin dimensions , I was like “ arey yeh bhi ho sakta than a yaarrr “
My miseries did’nt end here he asked me ok let that be “ tell me how will you check whether the new
bearing has been bonded well with the steel backing or is it sub standard “ yeh kya tha I did’nt know the
answer to this. So gone second question was a mess.
3) Then he asked me how frequently are the thrust bearing survey carried out. And from there he went
on to the thrust bearing wear measurement and clearance mess up here also ….
4) Then what type of safety valve onboard your ship ? said full lift and asked me to draw
Well I had’nt done well I mess up but I guess , he was in a mood to pass the single function people.
Thanks to him , I PASSED , done with class 2 people , this group helps a lot , so help the group to help
you …….
sorry for late posting
orals 29/11
gadkar/pakrasi
fn 4
draw and explain governer of ur ship.along with various limiters and sensor locations etc..
draw thrust block n clearances
complete crosshead system along with guides n hows its arranged n how lubrications takes place.
thin shell bearing composition and how bedding takes place in thick n thin shell.
fn 5
alt has become kaput n has gone for complete rewiring wat all chks u will do n how u will do dynamic
testing of insulation.
diff between all types of induction motor which one will devlop more torque n why
shore cable connection on board terminal checks u will do n dia.
fn 6
keyed propellor arrangement of key wat kind of key n how torque transmission takes place.
maintaince on aftercooler.
bilge pump gearing arrangement
sm more questions were there will post it later
sorry for late posting as was out of city...

27/11/12- Int-Mr Gadkar and Ext- Mr ghosh
only function-4b
Ques1-draw automatic starting air v/v and its working.
Ans- i drew the diagram as per lamb pg no 228 and explain also.
actually in this quer he want to knw how the air is vent.
Ques2-differance between SMC and SMC-C main bearing and material.
Ans-i told mc have thick and mcc have thin shell bearing.
thick shell white metal are- 88%sn,8%sb,4%cu,0.2%pb
thin shell tri metal bearing- as per fb previous post.
Ques3-wat is homogenizer.
Ans-its mix water and fuel in same ratio for reducing the Nox,its fitted after the purifier.
Ques4-fuel v/v diagram and its working.
ans- i drew as per mariendiesel.co.uk and its working.
Ques5-ohauling of exaust v/v actuator.
ans- i told as per man b&w mannual.
ques6-wat do mean by hardness.
ans-i could not answer this ques, but i told its something BHN.
Ques7-draw power card and draw card on same plane.
ans-i drew both on same plane,actually his intension that both diagram have same peak pressure.then
asked me wat is x-axis and y-axis,i told power card is between pressure and volume and in draw card its
between pressure and crank angle.
Ques8-what is catfine and from where its comes.
ans-catfine are AL-SI,They r add during the distliation process for the catalysis crak.
thal all he asked me and told go ,u r pass .
finally gadker called me and asked how was the oral,i told sir very good,and he said y u waiting here go
and apply the coc.
finally completed...and thanks to dinesh ratohde,ravish negi,ranveer raj,pankaj suman,arvind maurya and
all my face book friends.
03/12/12
Trassi
Fn4
1.lub oil line diagram from sump to return sump?
2.calculation of power in BHP?
3.refer satefties?
4.fuel pump timing SULZER?
Fn5
1.alternating working and how electricity is produced?
2.msb safeties?
3.why emergency gen supply cannot be given to Msb?
4.types of windings?
Result yet to know.
13guys had orals. Pls post it and help others
6/12
ext-pakrassi
as mentioned below he ws in an absolutely fantastic mood
fn 4-1.tell me the qs which u cudn`t answer in ur previous attempts....told him a few....asked me
whether i knew them nw...and asked me abt rta fuel p/p timing.....tried to confuse a lot....wasn`t
xpecting a tick bt gt 1...
2. wat sort of engines u hav worked on told him both man smcs....asked me wat sort of tierods....told
him long...asked me the diff & diagram....asked me abt short tierods...hw r they screwed....wat type is
the female thread & hw deep is it....asked me to find it out...
3.draw a stuffing box...hw many sealin & scrapper rings....material of each....hw will u overhaul in
place...wat will check on the lamellas...hw r the lamellas attached to the scrapper rings(dint knew the
answer...askd me to find it out...fyi..its a slide fit)....wat happens if the butt clearance increases....
4.wat r the stresses tht act on a 4 stroke conrod bolt...drew the gas force-inertia force diagram...xplained
reversal of stresses.....
fn 6-1.hav u heard abt iacs...i said yes thr are 13...asked me to name them...wat do they do...wat is
CSR...i said continuous synopsis record...he smiled and said gud but i want the CSR related to IACS(i gav
him a troll face)...hav u heard abt constructional structural requirements...i said it COULD b the min
requirement tht the class needs to monitor above which they can hav their own standards...dint get ne
reaction....wat abt GBS...i guessed goal based stds...gave him all the solas ammendment crap....
2.u r taking over as 2nd engineer wat all will u chk....gav him all the familiarisation chklist gyaan...wit
respect to safety & critical equipments...went on and on...he dint look satisfied...hav u seen an ism
manual...i said yes...he said thts the first thing u`ll chk....hw will u knw it is reviewed.....i said it has to b
signed & reviewed by master periodically....so is there a review sheet...i guessd yes....instant reply...toh
aise bola karo na....u guys knw the answers but y cant u b confident....& i ws like "ya rite"...
3.hts used on board....deck longitudinals,bottom longitudinals,deck & bottom plating,sheer strake, turn of
bilge....advantages??....i said higher strength 4 lower weight...disadvantages??...i said lower corrosion
allowance(lesser thickness), it is brittle...is it brittle in all stages???...(i wasnt sure but his tone suggested
it ws nt)...i said no....at which stage does hts become brittle & hw is repair carried out...find out and let
me knw.....fyi...hts becomes brittle at -10deg to -40 deg(source-a friend`s frnd who`s a
metallurgist..;)...or during tempering process if the metal is allowed to cool instantly....& it is repaired at
a temp of 800-850 deg with low hydrogen electrodes...
4.any 1 question of ur choice which u cudn`t answer to trassi....cudn`t think of ne in which i wont get
screwed...neways made 1 of my own...i told him trassi sir asked me wat is the main thing u`ll do while
takin liner calibration....i told him the procedure...but din`t say tht we`ll keep the calibration tool on the
liner for 15 mins...he started laughin....& i was lyk 0_o...neways wat is microseizure...wants to hear tht
there r pores on the liner in which aspirities of fuel get suck bcoz of which the liner`s l.o holdin capacity
diminishes..bcoz of which wen theres metal to metal contact u hav localised welding in the form of
scratches....hw do u prevent tht...i said honing...
ok...asked me to find out the answers of the questions....calld me after 2 hours...i gav him the answer for
stuffin box...he said ok thts enuf....i knw u guys cant study hard but i`m banking on the fact tht u guys
will work hard...go passed....i said sir wats the answer for the tieod threads...gav a devilish laugh...he
told i havnt worked on the latest engines either but the answer is out thr which u guys need to find
out...i ws again...0_o...6/12
ext :pakrassi...
func 4
he was in a good mood.i went in n he started chattin ,whr r u frm, last tym y u didn clear n all dat....i
said sir i had not practiced my drawings.....he asked hav u now....i reluctantly said yes sir.....he said this
is what i dont like....say confidently yes sir i have prepared.after all v r human.all v can do is try.i said
"yes sir i have prepared".
1.he asked me to draw stuffing box and explain it. drew diag frm marine diesels site.explained him
function of all d rings.he aske me d profile of lamellas.how they scrap oil.how many there are.told him thr
are 2.asked me how many layers were thr....told him frm d manual.....
2.latest development in t/c...i told him about the v.t.a thing....he asked me draw a simple line sketch
.....then asked me how does control ring moves n frm whr does its actuator get signal.....then asked me
wat type of turbine u had impulse o reaction.....i said impulse ( i guess thats wrong)....he looked at me n
said afterwards go n find about it.....
3.which type of safety v/v....draw....asked me how d piston n floating ring r fixed.i said piston moves
inside d ring ....
4.thrust brg which type,draw diag,y not circular pads,how do u measure wear.....
result passed....done wid class 2....thank u all....n keep posting

thanks to rudresh soudagar who helped me a lot..
3/12......
int: Datta
ext: Trassi
sorry guys for posting late
func:3
trassi started types of ship i told hi chemicla and oil. then he asked me which type of chemical tanker u
sailed on. type 2
1. what is hydrate.
2. what is DMLC and explain.
3.
func:4B
1. types of engine u worked on
2. explain how u will take timing for sulzer fuel p/p. cross question.
datta was not present on that day. so called on 4th.

datta sir asked few questions
1. what is dmlc
2. explain marpol VI
got function 3
rest of the question will post later guys as dont remember
orals 29/11
gadkar/pakrasi
fn 4
draw and explain governer of ur ship.along with various limiters and sensor locations etc..
draw thrust block n clearances
complete crosshead system along with guides n hows its arranged n how lubrications takes place.
thin shell bearing composition and how bedding takes place in thick n thin shell.
fn 5
alt has become kaput n has gone for complete rewiring wat all chks u will do n how u will do dynamic
testing of insulation.
diff between all types of induction motor which one will devlop more torque n why
shore cable connection on board terminal checks u will do n dia.
fn 6
keyed propellor arrangement of key wat kind of key n how torque transmission takes place.
maintaince on aftercooler.
bilge pump gearing arrangement
sm more questions were there will post it later

oral on 27th nov 2012..
fn 4b
ghosh n dutta
1. at wat pressure the exhaust v/v opens n closes...
i said opens at 160 bar n closes at 7 bar...then he asked how wil u check the efficiency of ur hydraulic
piston inside exhaust v/v...i told him to check orifice plug on the top..check the locking screws of flange
,check the flange,remove hydraulic piston,change the piston rings if required...he said ok n ticked the
question..
2.cross sectional view of the automatic air starting valve...i drew it ...then he asked me to explain the
working ....i explained him the working about how the pilot air comes n moves the pilot piston up against
the spring force n the valve opens ..he
was satisfied but asked me how pilot air is vented n details ...he put a cross
3.thin shell bearing layers wid thickness n material.....answered him as i knew this v well...he put a tick n
then asked me tell me the thick shell brg composition..i said 88%tin,8%antimony,4%copper n
cadmium...he was sipping his tea that time..when he kept the cup he said u dint said antimony..i said sir i
said tin,antimony,copper n cadmium..he said no i m telling u that is y u r saying antimony..i said sir i said
the three elements earlier only..he said y r u arguing wid me...i said no sir i m not arguing wid u,but with
due respect m telling u i told u the three elements...
then he said those words which really showed his character..
u just wait now,i will c how u will pass..
n then crossed my third question which was already ticked..
4.wat is homogeniser ? wat is its actiion?
gav me 15 seconds n put a cross..
5. wat is P.S. unit of power..??tell the full form of P.S.???gave me 15 seconds n put a cross..
6.why external equaliser in ac line...i knew this n explained him perfectly..he knew that i was right but
without saying or reacting anything he put a cross..
7.indicator cards..power n draw..but by this time i was totaaly frustrated by his behaviour...he told me to
wait
dutta came afterwards n said u repeat..
...
guys knowledge is never valued at this place...
i felt very bad by this behaviour of the surveyor,looking at the way these guys treat us ..
i came back n found out the ans to question 4 n 5 n found out

P.S. is the german unit of power.....n the full form is PFERDESTARKE..thats a german word..
n 1PS=.98HP
had a bad day...
good luck to rest of the people appearing..
Guys plz Discuss the Following:

1.) What is Open venting & Close venting?
2.) IG High Temp trips....what is the sensor used/type?
3.) Is CAS Applicable only to crude oil tankers...15 yrs old or the new ones too.
4.)MARPOL Line?
5.)Safety Instruments used on Tankers (Trassi Question).
29/11/2012.
4th attempt
Internal Mr.Gadkar External Pakrasssi..
function 6 and function 4b
Function 6
1)What is steam trap?
where is it located? Explain its construction and working?
What r the rest fittings with steam trap? where does the condensate from stem trap goes..
what will happen if the steam trap is not functioning properly?
i explained him all the things regarding construction and working
regarding remaining fittings on the steam trap i said there is one valve after steam trap that we must
open before opening inlet to the heating coil..
condensate from steam trap goes to cascade tank via atmospheric condenser...
regarding malfunctioning of steam trap i told him that the pipe after steam trap will be hot..more steam
consumption..more feed water consumption....then i said water hammer effect will be there...then he put
tick on the question..
2) What r t he dry dock checks before flooding the dry doc??

i told him everything regarding overboard valves,sea chest gratings painting,anchor chain and anchor
securing..tanking tank soundings and ensuring that all overhauling and all pippings r fitted properly, then
i said ensure that anodes are fitted properly...
the a x question..how anodes r fitted?? i said bolted to rudder or ship's hull...he said no then i said it is
stitch welded..ad suddenly his expression changed...then he told me that bolts r welded to ship's hull or
ruder, hole is drilled in anode and then anode is attached to the welded bolt and then a nut is screwed to
the bolt...
that's the answer he expect's...
3) which type of bilge pump is used on board? i said reciprocating...then he said how is it driven/..i said
by worm and worm gear....then he asked...how is circular motion converted to reciprocating motion? i
said by using piston and piston rod? then he asked me what is the material used for piston rings? i said
Bakelite...? then he asked how to remove liner?? i said the same way the way we remove liner of 4
stroke that is by using strong beam to support and from down using a plat which is jacked by using a
long jacking screw...then he asked me how u will remove bucket? i explained him the procedure to
remove piston...he said no that is not what i want...
4) Explain Painting scheme? i told him right from start to end of dj eyres..then he asked me contents of
self polishing pain? i told him Silicon binder copper and bioscide..thank god he did not ask me which
bioscide....
then he asked me what is the leaching rate of self polishing paint? and which is best method for surface
preparations? i told him hydroblasting gives rough smooth surface which helps in adhering the paint..he
asked me what is the standard for it? i said Swedish standards ranging from 2 to 2.5? then new question
how is steel plate preserved in ship yard? and which paint is used? i told him no need for pain only red
oxide primer or holding down primer is sufficient to protect the plate..as it already has mill scales formed
due to quenching...still he asked me what shuld be the thickness of primer..i told him 50 microns...
function 4b
1) what does it means by sulzer 7RTA 84 T? To;d him everything but last T stands for tanker...
2) then how is x head pin attached to x head shoe? i didn't knew the answer for it.
3) How is x head bearing lubricated in sulzer? I told him by discharge from x head pump goes to high
pressure manifold and then oil entrs into x head from bottom at 16 bar pressure...then he asked me how
r x head rails r lubricated? i told him one branch of oil goes there..but he was not satisfied?
4) Draw and explain bottom end bearing bolt? i explained him everything..then he asked me why is dia of
bolt is reduced? i told him to prevent elongation and to prevent fatigue failure by reducing x section..then
he asked me how is elongation prevented by reducing dia? i told him force acting on bolt is directly
proportional to the area..so we reduce the area hence less force and hence less elongation..
he said ok..go and wait outside...result...function 6 pass....function 4b fail....
orals on 27th at dgs with banerjee and great pakrassi
function-4B
1.what type of governor on ur last ship,i told electronic governor.how the scavenge limiter works in
electronic governor,i told sir it's connected with governor n a linkage of governor which connects the fuel
pump ,which limits the discharge of fuel to engine according to scavenge pressure.then,where its
connected for sensing scavenge pressure,i told it's in scavenge manifold,then told in manifold where,i
told after turbochsrger entering to scv manifold. and lots cross question-finally crossed.
2.reversing of sulzer rta,i explained -after giving kick to the engine the air goes to distributor and
reversing valve which changes its position as reqrd n from reversing valve oil which comes from xhead
lub oil pump,goes to fuel cams which further rotates the fuel cam.what is the rotation of fuel cam called,i
told lost motion,then he told ok.how distributor is changing its position,i told ahead n astern cam
attached on vertical shaft.then asked show me how it's changing its position,i showed the diagram about
vertical movement of distributor camshaft,then said ok.what type of cam is there.i cud not realise his
question n was trying to draw the cam n suddenly asked me ,is this positive cam or negative cam,then i
told positive cam, then i told no sir,its negative cam.he told u r thinking n telling.finally crossed
3.setting of boiler safety valve,since he crossed two above questions i lost interest in saying anymore.and
anyway even if we answer the best it wont help.so,very few thngs told n finally said dont
remember.finally-crossed as i was sure.
4.Turbo charger latest development-i told variable turbine area and two stage turbo charging.i explained
about two stage t/c.i was not sure about this answer.finally crossed.
function 3-
1.explain about mlc,why it came,how it came,when it will be in force,to whom its applicable,what r the
areas which take care about.
i explained all in every detail.finally tick
2.what is the difference between ism n iso.i explained everything in details n his cross questions.when
latest amendment was there in iso,actually i dint know abt ths but i was thnking n told him about iso
9oo1 n 9002 n also 14001.but when i said he was shocked n told me how do u know abt hts hav u done
any courses,said no sir while studying i went thru.then he told as u know iso came in 2000 n frst
amendment was in 2004,then what is the latest amemndment,i told it's 2008 sir,said very good u r right.
now i was thnking atleast safety i will get.then suddenly he makes a bracket n asked about risk
assessment i told him then he asked risk assessment belongs to which ism clause,n i was trying to recall
the clauses then he said do it fast i dont have time n then suddenly told company responsiblity n
authority then again a big cross.
after that i realised it,reports n analysis of emergency ,non-confirmity,accidents and hazardous
occurence.
3.tell me about anchor chain on ur ship.i told it was detachable link type.draw the diagram,i drew.he
asked how the kenter shackle is joined,i told one tapered pin is there to keep it in place.after fiting the
two parts with one another we put a tapere pin to keep it in place as a locking.what is the procedure to
lock this kenter shackle?i told it is just a slide fit one on the other n putting a tapered pin.finally crossed.
4.asked me about fitting of sterntube.told him but he was not satisfied n finally put a big cross.
afetr exam he told me just wait outside,ur interview is over but this is not ur result.
definitely i was expecting function 3 n was sure for function 3.
he called at 6pm n said ur answers r not upto 60%,so u hv to repeat.
told thnk u sir,as dont hv other choice.finally i felt this is the field where study is not important,bcoz if we
go onboard these wont work as we have different procedure n conditions to work n secondly whether u
study or answers well ,it's already decided to pass or fail irrespective of ur ur effort.
anyway still hope continues.
all the best for next.
Orals at old MMD.. Mr. Daatar and Mr. Baarik.. 8/11/2012 all function
cleared fun 5 nd 6
fun3
-explain ISM nd MLC
-draw collision bkd and explain its regulation
-wt is UMS requirement
-2nd engineers duty
-contengency plan for fire on d bridge..
-regulation for hypermist system
-new regulation for bulk carrier nd damage stability for bulk carrier.
(don't remember another questions)
fun4b
-wt is lacquering
-diff btwn sulzer nd MAN X'hd bearing..how it gets lubricated
-wt is ignition delay.its effect on 2/s nd 4/s engine
-wt is CCR nd ur action if it is more as per test report
-why Pmax-Pcomp<35 bar..give reason
-wt is d mtrl for main brng nd piston ring for MAN engine
-where is d relief v/v in sulzer pump and why u need it.
-boiler burner trips
-power balancing of engine.. which single parameter u ll balance
fun5
-explain shaft generator,sunchro condensor and ckt diagram
-explai IP, wt is the IP valeu for motor and alternator, why it is different
-draw nd explain slipring nd brushless excitation
-electric propulsion, how speed is changed
-adv. of high voltage system.
-electromagnetic interference, how to avoid it.
fun6
-chain tightning, checks after dat
-removal of main bearing
-mounting of keyless propeller
-why u need earthing of intermediate shaft.
-what is VIT, how VIT works in sulzer nd MAN engine
-wt is coating of piston ring
-LO analysis report, ur action if viscosity nd TBN high.
DATE:1/OCT/2012
2nd attempt
SURVEYOR:PAKrASI SIR AND GADKAR SIR
Fun 4b
1.reversing of ur last ship..(MAN B&W)....hw an air distributor get reversed......wat is overlap period...hw
to calculate n significance of it...lost of cross question
2.Type of boiler in ur last ship....wat is accumulation test...wat all conditions for accumulation
test....when u will carry out an accumulation test...is it necessary to carry out accumulation test after
hydraualic testing...
3.difference between gear drive n chain drive...wat all critical spares required on board for
both...material...types of gear used...
4.draw a 4s bottom end bearing bolt....n xplain...
Fun 3:
1.difference between stcw 2010 n 95...xplain in dtails each point of new amendment of 2010...(wat all
training for an able seaman...electrical officer...)
2.ISPS....all dates n all....wat all manual comes under ISPS....wat all equipments come under
ISPS...function of CSO,PFSO....wat is SSP..n content.....wat is an illumination plan as per ISPS....location
of it...
3.Types of stern frame..
4.hw will u fit stern tube...alignment....hw will u bore....n many questions...
FUN 5:
1.draw a diesel electric plant n its advantage....draw layout of ER....wat all ratings for motor...
2.draw an AVR...
3.wat is a commutator in dc motor,function of it,hw it is fitted in shaft...
4.types of induction motor...n use of wound rotor induction motor on board.
FUN 6:
1.Main functions of IACS.....
2.method for cleaning of hull....draw a snad blasting machine....hw to measure thickness of paint....lots
of question....
3.sealing of tail end shaft....
4.RO plant....types of module used....material of membrane...
Orals at old MMD.. Mr. Daatar and Mr. Baarik.. 8/11/2012 all function
cleared fun 5 nd 6
fun3
-explain ISM nd MLC
-2nd engineers duty
fun4b
-wt is lacquering
fun5
fun6
8 Nov 2012, 2nd attempt Mr Trassi Again

All functions, cleared 4b
fun 3
IG trips
prevention of fire in cargo tanks in Tankers
func 4 and 6
types of Engines done
Asked me about Rta Fuel Pump timing
Bearing Removal of SMC Bearing, asked me the function of Bridge Gauge,was not satisfied by my
answer(measuring clearance)
then asked me about refer safeties, could not explain him about the function of master solonoid valve
and its location.
asked me about the outlet of relief valve , function of unloader
Main air compressor intercooler leak test.
Msw Pp starting procedure, he was not satisfied with my answer( open suction valve, check pressure at
suction pressure gauge(head) and with discharge valve closed start pump)
Bunker Line pressure testing
Purifier Vibrations- causes and why we apply brake during stopping
Function 5
working of brushless alternator
Msb safeties and how to tryout( reverse power, over current and under voltage)
orals at dg shipping on 8/11/12 fun 3 & 6 by Trassi sir and internal Gadkar sir.
1.What is damage stability.
2.Name water padding cargos,how is discharging done for such cargos,what is the status of cargo in the
tank of such cargo during sailing.
3>If there is a hole in the side shell of ship,how will u convey this msg to supdt.about its location.
4>Draw bracketted floor.
5>cARRIAGE TEMP OF BANANA and how to measure its temp.(As i had done the reefer vsl)
Funct5
1>Hotwell overflowing reasons.
2>Diagram of jack bolt of sulzer and tell its working.
fun3
-explain ISM nd MLC
-2nd engineers duty
fun4b
-wt is lacquering
fun5
fun6
4 oct'12
internal : gadkar , external: dattar
functions appeared for : 4b n 6
dattar told me at the beginning as both the functions are closely related he just ask
the questions randomly and he'll put it on paper accordingly . ok
so he started out by asking what are all the engines i've worked on told him LMC
and SMC , so then he asked me any idea about sulzer told him i've read about it...
so here are the questions which i can remember guys , with the answers given to
some extent
1. What is running in , in 2s and 4s engines, how different is it? Told him about
running in and how in 4s running in not for the piston ring and liner , and is for
running gear but he frowned don’t know why …..
2. Whats the difference between thick shell bearing and thin shell bearing??? told
him what ever I’ve found in the earlier posts …
3. Then about crosshead bearing lubrication in MAN B&W and SULZER difference
and how is the entry of lube oil in both ??? told him about the difference in design
and the pressure , but i was not sure about the point of entry .
4. Then came the bouncer , he asked me “now a days the holding down bolts are
longer than the once which were used previously , whats the reason for this change
“ ?? did’nt know ???
5. What is liner glazing ??? I was going well with the organic and the inorganic
mixture of the lacquer and the micropores but I don’t know for some reasons I did a
mistake of mentioning the micro seizures and there he caught me on my hips …..
6. Then came the chain tightening stuff, he asked me what would you after you
have tightened the chain ??? told him as after the tightening process the cam
timing would have got altered and we’ll check it with a pin gauge and do the
adjustment n then he asked me “ so you go about changing the timing everytime
you tighten the chain , so told him we’ll just check as the allowable limit is 2 deg we
need’nt do it.
7. Then is asked me about the ceramic coating on the piston rings , I firstly did’nt
get what he wanted , so I told him its generally meant to increase time between
overhauls as the ring wear rate is more in 2-stroke engines , here again I dwelled in
, asked what about wear rate in 4-stroke engines i told him the wear rate in 4s is
less than the liner wear rate , n then he asked me why , told him about the mean
piston speed this time I think I did’nt pay much heed to MPS but then there is more
to it in later questions . 4-s engine ring coating , told him ceramic, there was a slight
swivel in his sitting position . just hoped I was right…
8. Have you heard about something called “bearing monitoring system” introduced
by MAN B&W , have you hear about it ??? I had no idea about this ..
9. Then he asked me about the tribopack ??? this one was common so knew it , in
this he asked me about the mid level insulation told him about the dew point and
acid corrosion ….
10. Then boiler burner safeties did’nt tell him all of them ???
11. Then asked me about ignition lag , more in which 4s or 2s ??? told him 4-s its
more , asked me why , told him as the scavenge efficiency is lesser this problem
would be there , then he got interested in this , and asked me again to explain n
here he caught me on MPS , as I told him due to higher MPS the scavenge efficiency
lesser then he asked me ok whats the MPS of 4-s engine I told him I don’t know in
specific but then I told him if I assumed for a 720 rpm and stroke of .7m and
calculated 15.8 m/s , on this his reaction was confusing, any ways he came back to
the main question what are the measures to avoid this lag in recent 4-s engines , I
didn’t know this I told him we would advance the timing by adjusting the shims or
nut provided on some engines , then he told would you do this everytime your fuel
changes , then I had no clue , but since he was so free , I just blabbered VIT out of
know were then tho which engines have you seen n all any ways forget that
12. Then he asked me about the pressure setting of crankcase relief valves ??? told
him its around 40 -60 mbar as I had read it some were in the common notes …
13. Boiler safety valve setting how is it done and the setting pressure ??? known
question…..
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Praveen Patil guys dattar is a genuine guy , but i very specific about motor , got function 6 from him but 4b he asked me
to repeat . this was slight disappointing but anyways it was dattar that why i didn't crib much may be i may i've gone wrong
anyways guys keep posting , as this is a life line
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Kamble Mayur sale jo maine pucha tha wohi usne pucha ok congrats for function 6 regaurdung holding down bollts they
can bend at larger angle as there length is large same basic bending formula m/i=sigma/y=e/r
Vishal Tarde answer to longer holding down bolts is tht boz of greater lenght they have greater elasticity & therefore less
prone to cracking
Hotaviya Rao well done bro..
October 6 at 12:04am · Like
Mahesh Vvsn Tadi effect of long holding down bolts as given in Griffith: if there is any relative movement between
bedplate & tanktop, the studs will bend & subsequently fail due to fatigue. In oreder to reduce this long studs wth distance
tubes are employed. the effec...See More
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Mahesh Vvsn Tadi the equation is as given By Kamble Mayur
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Dinesh Rana gud explaination...thanks mahesh

Sandeepkumar Chauhan congrats praveen...
Alister Gavin Lasrado TRIBOPACK:http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/NEWS/MMSep15a.html
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29.10.2012
DGS @ 1000hrs
internal: banerjee
external: trassi
function: 4B (only)
what engines done and types of ship done

1) complete unit overhaul, including various safeties, measurements and clearences.( screwed me for not
opening indicator cocks, said i will damage the engine if hydraulic lock... i mean WTF!! its but obvious
that we will open it when we actually do, besides, turning gear motor will overload trip. i said nothing. i
got a biggg cross)
2) stuffing box overhaul and clearences, how will you check spring. (got tick)
3) exhaust bellow.(got tick)
4) 4s con rod checks. why oblique cut. ( had an argument with him on this) (got cross. i said whats there
in aranaha)
5) boiler furnace corrogation. (this is pakarashi question, how he asked i dont know) (one more tick)
6) wasted stud diagram (got tick)
7) and his patiented RTA fuel pump timing.. ( made sure i "open indicator cocks" this time) (tick as well..)
for time being i thought i am giving fun 6 oral.. anyways.. doesent matter... as he said " go you are
pass...!!!!!!!"
29.10.2012
DGS @ 1000hrs
internal: banerjee
external: trassi
function: 4B and 6..
1)RTA fuek pump timing.

told him everything right from stopping engine etc..
x question how u will remove valve seat? i told him special tool is provided..
2)What r conditions for UMS?? a safety question in 4b and 6..
tried to recollect the things and said centralized alarm system,fire alarms at various locations like purifier
room,boiler etc..but could not recollect more as i have done wid safety...
3)How does fire alarm works..i told him principle of working of smoke detector?
4) Lub oil difference between 2 stroke and 4 stroke??
told him everything like tbn etc..but he was not satisfied...god knows what he wanted..
5)L.O properties of purifier?
told him like oiliness,viscosity, anti oxidation, anti foaming.....but still he was not satisfied...
6)what checks you will do on 4 stroke con rod??
i told him everything like obliquity,serrations etc..but he was not satisfied again??
7) boiler changed over from low load to high load...how you will do it...
was not prepared for this question..but tried to answer him and explain air fuel ratio, increasing feed
water...but again he was not satisfied....
one more question but could not remeber.....
result fail..repeat both....

29/12/2012
Internal : Sukumaran
External : Pakrashi
1. What all engines u have done told him smc and rta t-b? what does t-b stands for
(tanker bulk)
2. Draw rta connecting rod bolt diagram. Told him that’s not bolt it’s a waisted stude
drawn the diagram with fillet and told him about shank dia funda as in 4-stroke con
rod bolt. Asked material for the same told High UTS alloy steel. What do you mean
by alloy told him some impurities are added to impart certain qualities to the base
material.
3. What came before RTA
Rl-b, rl-a, rnd-m, rnd, rd, rsad, rsd
4. RTa has poppet type exhaust valve wat kind present in RL-B? Was not sure but
told him rotary exhaust valve
5. Explain rotary exhaust valve arrg told him that in rd engine it rotates at half rpm
of engine by a chain drive arrg the v/v shft is hollow and uncooled while casing is
water cooled to prevent exhaust leakage labyrinth seal is there valve timing is
changed by a servomotor and also gave thickness of vane material (6mm). Was
satisfied with my answer but then he asked me how the vanes are attached to shaft
for which I said no idea sirjee
6. Do u knw about flash evaporator I said yes then tell me about ro sytem
membrane. Gave him thickness of each layer of membrane.
7. How to preserve ro membrane if plant operation not req for prolonged time was
not hving any idea about this but told him that fill with fresh water with chloride
content less than 0.1 ppm and add organophosphate or food grade sodium hexa
meta phosphate he wanted to knw how much chemical u will add be specific so I
gave up
8. Ism comes in which chapter of solas? when it came ? what are the elemnets and
parts of ism?
Risk assessment comes under which element
9. What is CSR? What is written in it? Gave all points?
10. In case ship flag changes and suppose csr is not there onboard. Can the ship ask
for interim issc I told yes was a fluke but he accepted
11. Ruder pintle clearance where to take? material of pintle sleeve? Thordon
bearing material? Wat should be the value of pintle clearance? Is there any graph
from where u can check pintle clearance? In spade rudder wat carries rudder
weight? Answered everything except that graph part
12. How many dry docks required for a ship I said 1 but answer is two in a five year
period as per solas chapter 1
13. Draw diesel electric propulsion sytem layout? What is the voltage it’s a HV
system with voltage as high as 10kv.
14. Self synchronous motor where it is used I said in propulsion motors although I
was knowing that he wants rudder angle indicator as answer so got him in to a
argument with him I said rudder angle indicator motor is a synchro motor not self
synchronous he gave me some funda so gave up.
15. Motor winding insulation testing? Instead of telling him answer for this I started
telling him how to test alternator windings after rewinding is done for next 5mins
and in doing so I completely forgot wat was he asking so screwed up here.
16. Wat thing u get under afs convention for the ship paint I told everything like iaf
cert., a certificate from paint company declaring that it is free from TBT, we have
invoice of paint, paint receipt still he wanted something specific so I gave up.
17. Bilge pump valve chest arrg, how will u check if any valve is leaking? rpm of
bilge pump motor and rpm of pump wat kind of gearing arrangement?
Result: Passed 4B and 5

Guys keep posting all these questions are not new and may be he is asking them
again and again so atleast make a contribution and plz post ur oral ques it will help
everyone this month out of 187 guys hardly 20-30 have posted their oral questions.
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Deepak Shori srry its 29/10/2012
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Abhishek Prasad congrts buddy
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Amol Mathur can u please give part by part answers for the rudder pintle question. and congrats btw.
Deepak Shori clearance is checked between pintle sleeve and bearing by feeler g/g. Material of pintle sleeve stainless
steel. thordon bearingis of thermosetting 3-d crosslinked synthetic material.pintle clearance 1-2 mm told him formula as
given in saif tole but he asked abt some graph i dont know about that
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Amol Mathur thnks bro. pintle sleeve in reeds ship co is given as cast iron with wood as lagging in middle and brass inner
cage if i am not mistaken. i wan moreover wondering abt the thordon bearings that u mentioned.
Deepak Shori sleeve material i got from ships manual and for thordon u can check throdon company site
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16/08/2012
DG shipping
Internal:Mr Datta, External:Mr Pakrashi
Function 4b:
Which all engines u worked on?only SMC & MC-C, but I studied sulzer also.
Q.1. Main Bearing overhaul of ur engine. I started from “Company informed” Then he asked why? I said
as per ISM, SMC we have to inform. “Immobalisation, Risk assessment,isolation of engine, enclosed
space entry,………………..marking on upkeep and shell………..
If new bearing old engine is not fitting properly, what u will do?
Bedding of bearing, tool having 45’ angle……….
Can u do bedding in ur brg. I said no, it is thin shell brg Flash layer is present..
Q.2. Starting air distributor?how does it function?If we increase cylinders say 20units then will it require
distributor? In RT flex there is no distributor.?How it works?What is provided in there? Solenoid v/vs r
operated electronically, there is a proximity switch to sense the angle on flywheel and PLC gives signal to
solenoid valves. At what angle it sends air(5’ BTDC) and termination of air(110).
Q.3. T/c ?What type of T/C?-Const press.
which company?ABB.
T/C compression ratio- 2.5:1
How T/C Lo and Exhaust gases are separated- Labrynth seal.Draw the dig.
Q.4.Types of safety valve, which one on ur ship? Draw.
Function 3:
Q.1. ISM amendments, Which is most important amendment ? Non confirmity
Q.2. STCW 1995, why is it necessary to amend? Chapters in detail.
Q.3. Stern Tube, how it is connected? Material of S/T -C.I., LO flow
Q.4.Oil tanker cross section,How the tank is connected?
Cleared with cl-II.
25th October 2012

In DGS Internal Gadkar and external pakrashi
Result washout
Function 4b
1. What is ur vassel name.
2. what was size ur ship.
3. what product ur carried. (so ur sailed as 3rd engineer)
4. how reversing took place in rta.
5. how liner cooled with drawing, ( I draw boor cooled diagram with temp.)
Sub question
1. How water is circulated in the liner.
2 . where is cooling pocket fitted in the liner.
3. what Teflon plug do on liner , where is fitted.
6. Draw the bottom end bearing bold diagram.
7. Draw the boiler diagram of ur ship, how was ur furnesh constructed, and how refractory is fitted, and
what was the name of the refractory, where is refractory fitted,
Function: 3
1. What is antil fouling paint, (he whats to know about the TBT and perticuler date also he want.
2. What Date mlc convention will came in forced.
Function 5.
1. What is AVR,
2. What is Electric propulsion motor, draw the diagram,
Function 6.
1. How bush is fitted in stern tube ,
2. In rta engine draw the diagram of fuel v/v, how is work, what is different between older fuel v/v, and
new fuel v/v, Exactly where oil pressure is acting to lift the needle,
3. Draw the rudder diagram and so the pintle clearance, how u will take.
4. In the dry-dock what is sand blasting how the person will do, how u can identify the cleaning of the
surface.
Now I remember this much question yar if I remember more I will put latter.
5. what is IACS.
DATE:1/OCT/2012
2nd attempt
Fun 4b
1.reversing of ur last ship..(MAN B&W)....hw an air distributor get reversed......wat is overlap period...hw
to calculate n significance of it...lost of cross question
2.Type of boiler in ur last ship....wat is accumulation test...wat all conditions for accumulation
test....when u will carry out an accumulation test...is it necessary to carry out accumulation test after
hydraualic testing...
3.difference between gear drive n chain drive...wat all critical spares required on board for
both...material...types of gear used...
Fun 3:
1.difference between stcw 2010 n 95...xplain in dtails each point of new amendment of 2010...(wat all
training for an able seaman...electrical officer...)
2.ISPS....all dates n all....wat all manual comes under ISPS....wat all equipments come under
ISPS...function of CSO,PFSO....wat is SSP..n content.....wat is an illumination plan as per ISPS....location
of it...
FUN 5:
1.draw a diesel electric plant n its advantage....draw layout of ER....wat all ratings for motor...
2.draw an AVR...
FUN 6:
2.method for cleaning of hull....draw a snad blasting machine....hw to measure thickness of paint....lots
of question....
DG SHIPPING
22/10/2012 THIRD ATTEMPT
Mr aneja external with mr sukumar
Fn6
1. What is cms explain with example.
2. What is condition of class?
3.Centrifugal pump overhaul in details.
That's it guys done with CLASS 2!

Thanks for all the guys who helped me through this...
And please please please keep posting and sharing,it helps a lot!
Godspeed!
16th oct, Mr. Shivkumaran internal and Mr. Trassi external.
2nd attempt.
Fn 4b & 6
1. Lo diag sump to sump of SMc. He didn't agree abt telescopic pipe supplying oil to xhd and frm there to
piston.
2. Diag of jack bolts xsecition.
3. Cross blowing of gauge glass.
4. Sch 80 - for how much pressure as per JIS.
5. Latest man b&w engine.
Fn 3
1. What's prevents fire inside oil tanker cargo hold. I said IG then he said I want something else.
2. Mast riser what come first flame arrester or flame screen. Size of mesh of flame screen.
3. Tank entry procedure in detail for oil tanker cargo hold in ballast voyage.
Fn 5.
1. ESB regulation asked me to locate in solas.
2. Safeties on ESB.
3.. Emergency battery and battery room wanted every thing.
4. How to find out whether motor is star or delta. Be careful with the diagram u draw for delta.
Few othe ques were there. Don't remember rite now.
Ques. Were not difficult but he wants his specific answers.
Internal asked me how u did?

I said did well in elec. he said ok pass in elec.
Repeat rest. Cud have done better.
Jahaj Bhavan,Mr. Mishra external and Mr. Shivkumaran internal.
1st attempt. – 17th October 2012 mumbai
Questions are posted randomly as the questions came up based on the answers given.
1. Details of previous ships.

I had done mostly LPG carriers and had repeated a ship so he stuck to that one only.
Asked to GRT,NRT what cargo i carried.
Since had carried ammonia also as cargo asked me the carriage temperature for ammonia.Its -33.5 deg.
Then asked me specifications of the main engine.
I had done a Mitsubishi 6UEC60LS.
Guess he didnt know much about the engine.
Since the power mentioned on the Watchkeepng certificate was mentioned in PS he asked me the
fullform.
I told him its a german word and is equivalent to HP.
HE asked me to convert PS to KW.
Then asked me the type of boiler.

When i told him cylindrical,water tube vertical, oil fired boiler.
He said all boiler n ships are like that tell me more.
I was confused so asked him what he would like to hear.
He then said ke jaise tumne engine ka bataya 6uec waise batao..
So i asked model no?
he said woh model no nahi Type hai..!!
I remebered that so u i told him
Then he asked me to draw the boiler burner diagram.

Asked me a lot of question.
how the oil flows how was the swirler how was the nozzle etc etc.
then asked me to draw the LPG reliq plant.

Drew it and then asked me to explain.
Asked me where the pipelines were insulated
asked me the trips on the compressor.
then he came to electrical.

asked me special characteristics of equipments used in tankers.
told him EX'd' and Ex 'i'. he asked me more types of such nomenclatures.
I told him Ex'e' and Ex'p'.
asked me features of exd and exp
i told him as per saif tole and then asked me if there is an opening for gas release then how come the
gas doesnt go inside.
i screwed up here..
the openeing is not present .there is a joint which ruptures when an explosion occurs.
then he asked me to draw the complete ref system and explain .

asked me the trips present.
then asked me what will u do if oil has enetered evap coils.
i told him cut out the section and clean and fit back.
he said these problems occurs frequently so everytime ull cut and remove?
actually the answer i came to know later is that we have to hot gas(bypass the condenser) the system so
the oil evaporates and then comes back into the compressor.
this has to be done for around 4 hrs.
Asked me motor protection.

i told him SC,SP and Thermistor.
he asked all this on motor i said NO only thermistor on motor others in ckt.
he gave a wierd look
then asked me to draw the reversing diagram for the UEC.

i didnt know i told him i can explain verbally then started giving funda that ship pe tumhare paas khali
theory hoti hai kya ..saath mein diagram bhi hota hai na.
if u only dont know these theings then how as a seond engineer ull explain to ur juniors,and other crap.
then asked me reasons for high exhaust temperature.

i told him poor quality of fuel and fouled TC.
he accepted this and then asked me fir TC foul ho gaya to kaat ke fek doge kya.
scavenge fire ho jayega to engine kaat ke fek doge..etc etc
asked me to draw ref cycle P-H diagram.

then opened the IGC code and started reading sentences from there and kept asking y?
asked me C type lpg tanks and how electrical connections are made.
he himself was not clear on all this so the reaction he gave me was vague.
Marpol name all anexes

how many applicable to all ships.
i told 1,4,5,6 to all and 2,3 depends on type of ship.
said ok and aksed me annex 5 rules
then garbage disposal how and where is it recorded.
told him in garbage record book and recorded method of disposal,postion of ship and time.
asked me SOLAS ch 11-1 and 11-2
i screwed up here i think thats y he didnt give me safety.
i told him 11-1 for ship and 11-2 for ports..
i know its my mistake here.
then in the end asked me how i'd done ..i said motor i didnt know reversing and apart from that i was ok
then i asked him how he felt i'd done he said electrical ur good and MEP i might pass u but depends on
internal.
then was asked to wait ouside.

the internal aksed me how i'd donr told him the same thing.
He then said its only ur first time i wanted 100% answers in safety and motor u've ansered only 50 % i
want atleast 70%.
so i told him sir only 2 questions were asked out of which one ive answered so it has to be 50% i asked
him if he can ask me more questions.
he said no its only ur first attempt .i'll give u onlt electrical.
Chal khata to khula!!!Old MMD orals, Mr. Mishra external and Mr. Shivkumaran internal.
1st attempt. – 17th October 2012 mumbai
Sorry guys will post the questions directly n not functionwise as he was asking randomly.
1. Previous types of ships and the GRT for all , engine power for all with speed and S/D ratio for all
engines. Plus Boiler evap rate for all and type. – Luckyly i had byhearted it. Please guys don’t make the
mistake of not knowing this. Its very easily available online to get details of ur engines n everything of
the ship. DO NOT NEGLET. Starts with a good impression.
2. Then last ship VLCC – fire protection system and capcity of system – told him low exp foam for deck
12:1 and high expansion foam in E/R 600:1 (from e-manuall that i had) n hypermist as supplementary
syatem n the the various types of portable extinguishers. Cross question on hypermist. – full system dia
with all valves and safeties. – got it right as i had tested it onbard. – no of nozzles for m/e and diagram
of the nozzle arrangement. - nailed it n got a tick.
3. Suddenly jumped to electricity and asked wht precautions we will take if a person in e.r gets a shock n
faints – Guys he wants simple first aid and most important we have to mention that the root cause
analysis for the incident and reporting it to other vessels. – got a dot.
4. MSB safeties – nailed it.
5. Navigational lighting alarm panel arrangement and vessel NUC lights arrangement and why like that
only – told him as per colregs and two red lights on the Signal mast 2 meters apart. – tick mil gaya
6. Shore supply checks. – got tick.
7. Solas chapter IX – everything i know about ISM – all 16 chapters names – i had byhearted so it was a
breeze, cross question about amendments to Emgc’y preparedness – Marine contingency plan and Emgcy
response plan to be onboard n told him about all the emergency situations on board, asked abt blackout
testing and then about emgcy generator testing and all regulations regarding starting only. – got tick.
8. Hydraulic steering gear 4-ram system draw with all safeties. Cross questioning as to why this v/v is
here n not there , wht happens if two diff grades of oil are mixed by mistake. How to detect etc – dot.
9. Regulations for steering gear wrt to chapter V of solas –told him all about regulation 26- got tick.
10. Nox criteria and tier II application – got tick
11. How grounding drill is taking place on the ship as per ISM – told him something but cld see that he
was happy– told him from start about who is incharge and who will do what n remembered some points
from the bridge checklist also about their actions so he got happy. But wanted more n more n dats all he
was saying.. more.. – got a dot.
12. Boiler water testing onboard , too much cross questin , but told him everything as i had read for
written exams , limiting values for my last engine and interval of shore analysis for boiler water, checks
on boiler burner and safeties. – got tick.
13. A/e l.o cooler leaking – this much we know then how to test the shell n tube type cooler if it is sea
water cooled – gave him a practical approach n got a tick.
14. M/E sulzer RTA water cooled piston pressure testing – totally blank but told him abt water entering
from palm n the same way as oil passes , testing at 7 bar using a told dat applies pressure to inlet bore
of piston rod n bolts go inside the outlet bores. – got tick ( unexpected)
15. Reefer gas charging and diagram of a two room reefer system – got tick
16. Main air compressor type and diagram of suction valve for second stage – drew t correctly. Then
asked me about reasons for second stage relief v/v lifting – told him high temp of air leading to higher
pressure implies poor efficiency of after cooler , also v/v leading from MAC to air bottle close by
someone, overhauled recently the relief v/v n not done setting correctly then he asked more , i told i cant
think of anything else – got dot does anyone know any other reason then please let me know.
17. Draw and show Rudder construction and how to construction from start and methods of connection
and too much cross questioning abt rudder drop , type for surface protection , welding method , draw
rudder of previous vessel , why balanced type , jumping clearance , pintle clearance , other types of
rudders and where they are used , what about passenger ships ( i had no clue abt passenger vessels )
etc
That was it..and he told me to asses myself. – i said i did well but there is always room for improvement.
He said ok got out and wait n so i did. I got lucky as the questions were not bouncers like other
surveyors.
Result declared by internal – said orlas was good but we cant give you all the four functions so you take
1st three n the last one MEP u give again.
3 out of four cleared guys n i ran from there as soon as i cld. Thanks to everyone on this group we come
to know the type of questions asked and the answers expected. All the best to everyone and keep
posting.
Orals at DGS internal Datta sir, external Jain sir Date 12/10/2012
only Jain sir took oral,
attempt 1 ..
started with what type ship you sailed on , types of engines done..
function 3
. what are frames ? frame spacings .. how attached ? purpose etc
. watertight bulkhead.. draw and explain..
. collision bulkhead...
. how many transverse watertight bulkheads required by regulation?
. portable fire extinguishers..types .. draw DCP type... do not forget to how the pin against inadvertent
opening of the extinguisher...
. unstable ship.. wat happens if while loading with crane G goes above M ... then angle of loll...etc..
guys i had not studied ship construction and even the basics of safety like these extinguishers etc so i fell
flat on my nose in safety in front of Jain sir... lost the function
function 4b+6
wat engines u have worked on?...SMC..
tell all the specifications ..
. wat is supercharging.. why needed?.(by increasing pressure , more wt of air injected so more fuel can
be burnt in same
size engine etc). what is achieved out of it...
difference between pulse and constant pressure t/c ing... advantages disadvantages etc..
. reasons for intercooling in compressor ..isothermal adiabetic process.. why need isothermal?..etc
. how does the engine start?..
(air bottle valve opened upto initiating valve opening n then thrugh distributor into enigine etc in
detail....)
. then reversing .. why need reversing cylinder.. servo motor for fuel cams in sulzer etc
. my engine was 5 S 70 MCE.. wat did the E stand for .. i knew only economical ..but no any other details
.. fortunately he
didnt ask me anything further..
. valve timings , why exahust v/v not reversed? starting air v/v angles etc..
. cylinder lubrication.. he needed to hear this that some part of cyl lubrication is for actual lubrication and
some part for neutralising acidic products.. so when we reduce cyl dosages in newer systems to lower cyl
oil consumptions,
we must ensure that minimum quantity to cater for lubrication is maintained... cross questioning for the
same..wat was specific
cyl oil lubrication on ur last ship? wat was SFOC ?.. wat is TBN of a/e cc, mecc etc.
. fresh water syst onbd?.. hydrophor tank .little detail.. special care after charging hydrophore.. remove
charging hose.. else
water if from hydrophor may get into service/ control air system and adverse effects etc... he needed to
hear that...
. different types of pumps... applications... cntrifugal / positive displacement.. draw gear pump... where is
inlet where is
outlet... how positive displacement pumps creat large pressures... (very less clearance bet body and
gear... n all that)
. fresh water generator .. how water produced .. principle etc...
. draw refrigeration syst.. explain.. why compressor needed... why expansion v/v... (after evaporator
outlet temp of gas
is still less than sea water so compressed and then latent heat + heat taken from evaporator section
given to sw) .. solenoid
v/vs.. etc grilled me on refrigeration syst but could finally satisfy him n got tick..
. unit decarb procedure.. wat all checks in detail on pist crown , grooves, rings, std clearances, liner
ovality (he wanted to hear
it also in temrs of percentage .. so calculated and then told him... some how managed to get a tickmark
.. piston ring
wear down and groove wear down, need of recess in grooves, groove depth etc...
. in detail fuel v/v overhaul procedure.. imp points such as nozzle to be placed on face plate to check
suface trueness...then
the go / no go tool (10% more dia), checking with magnifying glass , errosion in holes , how nozzle
specified(eg 125 deg*4*0.8)
. how will u replace cam on the camshaft which is damaged ?..
. why on air bottles manholes elliptical shaped?...
. ignition delay, ignition quality, what done against it.. (FQS) , Density.. what effects of change in
denstity.. wil need to chang
gravity disk , ... also he wanted to hear that density plays most imp role in quantity calculations of fuel..
a few more questions i dont remember.. will post agin wen ill..
function 5
. insulated neutral vs floating neutral ... lil cross questioning on that...
. syncrocope, draw explain.. wat if syncroscope fails?.. 3 lamp arrangement draw n explain.. why
needed?..
wat is phase sequence?.. explain in terms of the wave diagram etc...
. why A/E s rated in KVA not in Kw?..
. transformers.. why soft iron core?.. why laminated?.. how step up/ down works?.. (voltage per turn in
coils is same
and simply by changing no of turns we step up or down..thats wt he needed to hear)
. motor s w ingress..wat to do?? motor overhaul procedure.. in detail.. do not forget to tell isolation...
. which all the loads supplied by emregency supply ?..
. tell everything on emergency gen.. wen told bout 22.5 deg heel and 10 deg trim..stopped me and asked
why in
regulation trim given in temrs of angle whereas onbd we have trims in terms of mtrs..also why the
regulation?..etc..
little grilling on that...
tried by telling him that
the emergency gen is a diesel engine in which lub oil pump may loose suction, wanted more... said
running gear alignment
may not hold good at more angle than that... also trim in terms of mtrs may change on diff ships but
angle will remain same..
etc.. seems my tukkas did the job.. got fun 5 also....
Functions cleared : except func 3 got all 3 ...

thanks to all group members and special thanks to Man Mohan, Shrikant Deshmukh, Rahul Golecha for
his notes, Abhinav Rajvanshi, Sarfaraz Choudhary, Kamlesh Nikam
and last but definitely not least my lovely wife @pallavi lonkar-deshpande for all the support..
guys.. jain sir is a genuin person... wants to know that all ur basics are clear... he goes deep into basics
only... some questions he asks are treaky,... i could answer them coz i had atteded all the lectures of jain
sir and datar sir in IMEI prep course...
good wishes to all ....cheers to the group.. keep posting guys n keep discussing on the group..it really
helps....
..10th oct 4th attempt...
trassi and dutta:
func 4b only:
asked me write down the previous questions asked...said u only had come to me
twice and once was jain sir...sohe said write down what jain sir asked u and what all
i also asked you...wrote down a mixture of questions of both but he was def more
interested in asking jains questions cause maybe he was tired of asking his own
questions i guess!!!!!
1. list the refer safeties:

A) lp cutout , hp trip (please don write cutout..he will get pissed) , condenser sight
glass , belt drive , belt safeguard , filter drier , reciever glass which shows the
moisture whether its dry or wet , unloader , l. o diff pre cut out , oil separator ,
solenoid valve filter , TEV filter , rooms thermostat , crank case heater (he said this
is not there in refer but in AC and asked me again whether it was there on my
ship...i said i don't know sir..these answers came up when we discussed) , relief
valve.
he asked the cross questions...why does the belt sliup and what are the advantages
of belt drive...i said if the compressor gets overloaded then it will slip and also belt
drive gives us the flexibilty of positioning the motor in case of slight misalignment
or something...he seemed satisfied but didn quite understand his reaction.
2. out at open sea how will u repair step by step ur bursting disc of ur MAC?
A) i said we can start the stand by compressor
isolate the compressor to work on
drain water from ur intercooler
take out ur tube stack
check ur tubes by conducting a leak test
and replace ur bursting disc with an ORIGINAL SPARE
now here he asked how does ur tube stack look from the top and asked for a
drawing of where the coolers are placed
(wanted a top view) and all diagram...his major qustion was whether the front end
of the disc stack is of the same dia as the rear side and i said yes very
confidently...he still didn agreee..he told me not to bull shit...anyways continuing
with the question he asked how do u detect a leak and i said to turn the disc stackj
upside down and fill it up with water and whichever is leaking will lose water...but
he just was not satisfied...god knows what he wanted...
3. hydrophore pump is frequesntly cutting in out...reasons?

A) jain sirs answer is simple...he wants to hear that the tank is filled up with water
and hence it cuts in and out...but trASSI IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT...HE WANTED
SOMETHING MORE...SO I SAID THE air valve is probably throttled...safety valve is
leaking...he didn seem to listen to it at all....just went onto the next question...said
forget it..u answer the next question
4. OMD alarm ..ur action?

A) i said as per manual is what am going to answer and he said thats whatui want to
hear....
i said engine will slowdown automatically and then we will call bridge directly and
tell them to stop engines and tell everyone vacate the engine room...don have to
specify anything else at all...he seemed satisfied...
thats it he said wait outside...called me in in 10sec and said go ur cleared func

and i was reactionless.....but reallyt a big tx to Sudhanshu Ajgaonkar,Mahesh
AtyaleRahul Rahul TiwariNihal Nihal NaralkarPrashantPrashant LalPrashant
Ranjan Prashant SinghPraveen Taneer...and obviously the rest of the group....been
an awesome year guys...all the very best to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers!!!!
keep posting witht the answers guys...it really helps cause most of the answers are
surveyor specific and u have to put down what he accepted so it helps the
others...cheers guys..!!!!! ALL THE VERY BEST TO ALL!!!!
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dgs datta nd trassi
trassi took. datta not interested.
1st attempt.
Washout.
started wid type of ships.

1. chemical tanker hazards- fresh.
2. 1st meter you put in cargo tank for atmos check - told multi gas detector is wrong...donno..den i told
o2 meter. wrong
3. precautions you take for product heavy density waxy residue in product tanker- told proper
blowthrough of lines, cargo heating. wrong.
4. checks of atmosphere 'before' crankcase entry. after isolation, told cooling, ventilation by blower,
atmos check. cross.
5. sulzer fuel pp timing - told everything but cross questions abt name of "pressure bush". cross. got
stuck on that name.
6. procedure for man bw smcc main bearing for survey. i didnt shut indicator cocks nd call surveyor.
cross.
7. what are drydock specifications - cudnt tell exact.
8. types of fuses on board - last one 4th in book was semi enclosed rewireable type- nt on board as per
trassi.
9. msb safeties- got cross in over voltage nd over freq.
10. boiler cross blow.
09/10/12
2nd Attempt
Dutta & Mishra
Appeared for function 4b,5 and 6
Asked me grt and nrt of my previous ship (I was like sir i have cleared function 3) told him though.
1. Asked me about my laltest ship engine told 6s70mcc
he asked to explain what it meant explained the same, then he said i think this is the latest engine i have
heard of??
i said no after mcc ME,ME-B engines have come latest being gme engines
he told to explain ME-B engine explained him then he said so ME-B is before ME as it has camshaft i said
no sir its ulta then gave a smile n told me to explain and draw how an exhuast valve operate in ME
engine explaine and drew simple drawing.
2. what is done to prevent corrosion in boilers??
I said we add oxygen scavenger or oxygen inhibitors he said bas itna hi
i said sir the entire water system is closed loop system so v prevent oxygen from coming inside the
system he said to draw the entire system and asked what abt cascade tank i said its closed then smiled
and what about your ship was it closed i said yes and smiled too... then drew the line diagram of feed
water system made a lil mistake there..
3.explain refrigeration cycle??
i started explaining then he interrupted n said let me complete the question explain refrigeration cycle on
p-s(pressure entropy) chart i tried explaining entropy he said draw it i said sorry sir
4.Explain how you will prepare boiler for survey??
explained the entire thing as per saif tole notes. His reaction is like u dont know nething
Function 5
1. draw electrical ckt how refrigeration plant cuts out on l.p and h.p.
couldnt draw
2. what is thyristor and application to start motor
explained and drew the soft stater wala ckt
3.alkaline batteries maintenance??
Had a brief idea as i was not sure abt the electrolyte told him abt hydrometer test for sp. gravity and will
check voltage he asked me what is the voltage i said 1.85V he said do u know there onj ships there are
all 24volt batteries i said then how can u say 1.85V i got confused n said i dont know later (after orals)
realised 1.85V is voltage of 1 cell like that there are 12 cells so 24 volts
4.Draw and explain alternator with any excitation system
drew he said forget it i dont want explanation!!!
Function 6
1. reefer plant refrigerant leaking how will you do trouble shooting??
where are the likely parts for leakage i gave him few he said rubbish!!
2.liner removal procedure??
explained made small mistakes like not telling shuting of spring air valve at the start. he said tum aaj kal
ka bacche kuch padhte nahi ho manual se!!
3.piston ring measurement??
told him top clearance for 1st and rest all rings
he asked how to check butt clearance
i said by entering inside scavange manifoldand through scavange ports he was very angry tum apne
khudke funde mat lagao aise ho hi nahi sakta there is no place to take have you take it?? i said yes sir
he said go now you wasted enough of my time
i was dejected ready for whitewash but then after a long wait dutta sir called in for result and said passed
in function 4b and 6 repeat 5 couldnt believe need to check on that!! just 1 function left Good luck to all
of you guys giving examzz ppl r passing this
4th Attempt: Only Fn 6
and only Mr. Pakrassi
1. Is there a requirement to paint the ship? Is there any regulation that states this. Went onto paint
schemes. What is the 3rd coat on the paints used on deck. He didn't accept the glass finish one...said it's
very expensive. What are Self polishing paints? Told him that they are Silicon based and about honey
comb structure....He asked me what is put inside the honey comb? I said I have no idea.
2. Asked me material of bearing for stern tube and asked what all types of seal are u aware of. Then
asked me about the lip seal have horizontal contact with water. Tell me a seal which has vertical contact.
Said these are used on smaller ships that sail on shallow waters.
3. Tell me have u heard the term IACS. Told him around 11 members including IRS. What is condition of
class. Whats the name of the certificate that the class issues that is required for Insurance Purposes.
4. Gear transmission arrangement for Vertical bilge pumps.
5. Ek aur ques I don't remember.
He said that ur 50 % there. I said sir I think I have given u 60% of the answers and if u give me
sometime i will find out the answers. I went out and found as much as I could in 45 mins.
Finally I'm done! Thanks to Kevin Da Gama, Ashish Tripathi, Jaspal and Mr Negi.
orals at dg, pakrassi. my orals was yesterday but at 6pm on monday we (3) were told to come
next day i.e. today
appeares for 4B & 3, 4th attempt.
4b
what do u understand by cranksaft def. how and why, whats the use, etc
piston ring failure reasons
how many rings, why?
tie rod onboard & advtg of short typ
how will u do the tie rod tightenings & the precautions.
how to caliberate the tool used in crankshaft deflection, and its period of test.
3
mlc 2006
tyes of corrugated bulhead
how to assertain the alingnment of stern tube, how is it done?
parts of isps.
friends still in dg so i will post the ans later with the reaction. pls ans the last 3 questions of
safety.
ok thanks, he has given fun 4b i think, just waiting to confirm
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Ujjwal Sahu then he went to safety and asked me mlc 2006. i said sir i can explain what i followed so i
told him in my words then finally he asked but still india will not follow it, i said yes sir as india has not
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Ujjwal Sahu he asked me typ of bullhead, i said in watertight i know plain and corrugated. ok draw me
corrugated. i drew but not interested he stopped me & asked the types of corrugation, i had absloutely
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Ujjwal Sahu now he came to the stern tube, lots of cross question here just like previous post. i tried my
best and thought if i will make this one correct then surely its going to be my day.. i tried my best and
told him almost every thing and shwed a dia, but this is typical pakrassi now. he asked me how to align
the stern tube. i had really no idea atall so big cross
Ujjwal Sahu last one was pats of isps, i had never known this so another cross and said i can't give u
safety...................... i felt little left out.then and there i posted all my questions in short asking help for
last three questions but even if the ans had come the result did not changed as pakrassi was not going
to change anythnig. i waited there for 1 hour then left
Pravin Naik thanx a lot yaar for prompt posting.... n gud luck 2u
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Ujjwal Sahu some one told me the corrugation for boiler are same for bulkhead, i didnot know this.....
and some one else told me that the alignment of the stern tube is done by help of piano wire, it was
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Aman Sachdeva congrats dude..
Ujjwal Sahu also asked me if there is corrosion on bulkhead and it is threatening then what do u do? i
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4th Oct ‘12

Internal: Gadkar,Ext:Dattar
Dattar grilled me for ALMOST 2 HRS.Too many questions asked .
result :Cleared fn 3 and 5.
FN3:
Asked which type of vessels sailed:All aframax crude oil tankers
1:So wht did u have onboard for deck Fire fighting fixed system…tell as per regulations
requirement?Foam :all requirements as per FSS code
2:Type of foam?specifications?nd where can u find this info?
3:Draw longitudinal c/s of oil tanker fwd part?diff between collision bulkhd nd other watertight
bulkheads?distance of collision b/h?
4:Damage stability? cross Q:floodable length?margin line?
5:Minimum no. of Bulkheads? Ans:3 -collision ,aft nd one fwd of m/c spaces…if m/c space at aft.
6:Pump rm bulkhead type? Ans:A0 type nd min penetrations with gas tight .
7:Cargo tank entry instruments? Threshold value of H2S?what if it is more?
8:Use of pintles?asked me to draw .
9:Balanced rudder nd unbalanced rudder?which type on ur ship?drew nd explained for balanced rudder
20 to 40 % area fwd of CL of stock . he said balanced never used..only semi balanced is used.nd as per
him balanced is 50% area fwd.
10:ISM :what will u do if major NC before arrival port? told him report to Master /C/e then to
company/DPA,immediately convert it into NC,corrective action to be taken nd measures to prevent
reoccurrence .Also inform PSC ,officer will come on board nd verify that corrective action has been taken
then only vessel will be allowed to sail out.Analysis like root cause analysis to be done to prevent
reoccurrence.
11:How will u make sure ship is ISM compliant before joining?
12:STCW 2010…only changes.No crossQ.
13:Annex 6 latest amendments,New chapter 4?:EEDI,SEEMP in general
14:Diif between lifeboat nd rescue boat?
Life boat lowering procedure?type?asked about latest amendments?
4b:
Engines worked on:6s60MC,&s60MC..mark?told him mark V.
1:Diff between Mark 5 N mark 9?he wanted in general the developments not the exact diff.
2:Diff between thick shell n thin shell brg?
3:Relation between load bearing capacity n clearance nd pressure?told this ulta i.e more the thickness
more the capacity .so got it wrong.
4:Diff between Xhead brg of sulzer n B&W?why 16 bar in sulzer?
5:As per 8217:values of CCR/CCAI/Used LO? significance of each?
ans:CCR -18-20%-indicates difficulty to burn plus fouling nature of fuel.requires frequent cleaning of
T/C,EGB
CCAI-870-indicates fuel has long ignition delay.
What arrangements on 4stroke if ccai high?told him advance timing by removing shims in fuel pumps. he
wanted other than this what can be done…as u cant do this every time.
About used LO:Ca 30mg/kg if more then fuel contains used LO.
6:Engine Performnce ISOstandard?-never heard
7:Catfines?how to reduce…limiting value?
8:Liner polishing n glazing?where more in 2 or 4 stroke?told him 4 stroke as high temp C deposits more
on piston land.counter measures-fire ring or APR
9:CPR piston ring?why used ?features of cpr?told him 6 grooves for controlled pr relief n lap joint for
better sealing.reduces wear distributes the load to lower ring.dont knw if totally correct.. he wasn’t
convinced.
10:Running IN??In both 2 n 4stroke.messed this up.cross Q:
Liner wear rates?0.05mm/1000hrs for 4s-0.015mm/1000 hrs.liner replacement criteria:.8% of liner dia nd
if cracked!
Piston ring wear rates with plasma coatings 2 stroke ?got this wrong.the correct value is 0.1 mm/1000 hr.
..nrmal C.I ring…0.5mm/1000 hr.
11:Why shaft is grounded?n wht parameter to check?told him abt spark erosion on brgs n parameter -
monitor the voltage ...not sure of value but told 30 mV.not sure.
12:Boiler burner safeties??...tell all the boiler trips…don’t forget lowlow water lvl!
Fn 6
1:Chain tightening procedure?checks after retightening?told him check camshaft timing by pin
gauge…asked in which direction will camshaft likely move…said ahead. But nw I think it should be astern
.dont knw
2:Crankshaft deflection : looking at the table (values )wht conclusions? told him vertiacl n horizontal
misalignment.
Misalignment with reference to what….true centre line of shaft ??i said its relative to adjacent
bearings.not sure if this is correct.plz explain anyone.
Fn 5:
1:How to vary speed of AC motor used for propusion?variable frequency drive…asked how is it done?dnt
knw
2:Ex i n Ex d ??deck halogen lights near manifold on midship locker wht type?told him can be Exd but not
necessary as it is above 3m from deck n not in hazardous envelop.
3:d.c motor speed variation?
4:a.c induction motor common faults? single phasing?
5:Difference between starter of single phase n 3 phase motor?
6:Explain brushless alternator?
7:Shaft generator …how frequency is maintained constant? told as per MC George.
got 3 n 5:)
2ND ATTEMPT DG 09/10/12

PAKRASI & BANARJEE
FN4-
1. FUNCTION OF LUBE OIL IN X HEAD ENGINE.
2.SPECALITY OF X HEAD BERING.HOW WEDGE IS FORMED
3.TYPE OF BOILER, ON U R SHIP , SAFETY VALE DRAWING , EXPLAIN
4.BORE COOLED LINER , TOO MUCH X QUESTION,
FN3
1,ISM IN DETAIL.
2.ISPS IN DETAIL.WHAT ALL THING IN U R SAFETY PLAN
3.PAINT SCHEME. WHAT IS SILICON BASED PAINT, HOW IT WORK. HOW TO MEASURE PAINT
THICKNESS.
4.STATUTORY CERTIFICATE WHO WILL ISSUE. NAME THE CERTIFICATE
5. HOW STERN FRAME OF U R SHIP MADE, TOLD HIM FABRICATED, HOW IT IS ATTACHED TO SHIP.
FN6
1.WHAT ALL THING IN CRANKSHAFT TO PREVENT FATIGUE.HOW U PREVENT C/S BY MAINTENANCE &
OPERATION
2.IOPP CERTIFICATE, ANNEX.
3.DUAL CLASS, TOO MUCH X QUESTION.
4.RO MEMBRANE TYPE, HOW TO PREVENT MEMBRANE.
Func 3
what are bonjean curves.... well i hope i spelled it correctly cause i sure as hell dont know what it is
draw the cross curves of stability....
couldnt answer as i had not done any naval architecture.... only shipco
angle of loll
name 5 safety conventions....
solas is all i said which was correct also gave answers like MLC and STCW but he repreminded that he
wanted safety conventions when i said MARPOL he stopped me askin me if it actually was a
caonvention.....
lost the function.....
Func 4
draw 2 stroke valve timing dig...
drew the one in aranha but he pointed out he wants a dig with air starting v/v and not suction ports.... all
i could do is explain the concept of v/v overlap but couldnt precisely point it down in terms of angles on
the timing dig
diff bet smoke n watertube boilers..
pointed out structural and constructional basic differeces but he seemed to want somethin else....
time taken to fire a smoke/water tube boiler from cold.. and why high pressure systems are usually fitted
with a water tube boilers....
well for the time i guessed 8-12 hours but i hear its 24 hours.... i didnt know that on board we did it in
not more than 5 hours so i guessed 12.... and why watertube well i still dont know started guessing my
way out there but would be nice if some1 could throw some concrete points and references to validate
the same
piston running hot.... reasons and solutions....
Func 5
Learn from me how to screw my own self....... damn should have made good with this1
brushless alternator
steering gear electrical safeties
thyristor and thermistor explain with circuit dig
Func 6
types of mainainances on board
pms and cms .... " is that all " ... " no sir there is also breakdown maintanance" he smiles...
aux engine survey routine ....
aux engine maintanance jobs with runnning hours
x head bearing overhaul for survey
centrifugal pump spares for o haul ..... spares that would be changed irrespective of its condition
I must say this was one golden lucky day of my life.

The questions were completely out of market and involved basics.
please, do not take my answers as a guide to my questions. I know they are not the perfect answers and
some not anywhere to the expected answers.
Fn 3 :
1) Which ships done ? What was the size?
2) What is the low pr. alarm setting for I.G system ? ...100 mmWG
3) What will happen when low pr. alarm comes ? ...
The pressure regulating v/v will open to the atmosphere and deck supply will be stopped.
4) What will happen when the O2 % is high ?
Ig will either recirculate or released to atmosphere.
5) Will this be done automatically?
No, it will have to be done manually. ( But some systems have automatic regulation)
6) In a crude carrier ( boiler produced IG system) what will be the action after high o2 alarm sounds for
IG?
Increase the fuel burning.
But that will also lead to increase in steam production ? vacuum condensor is provided for dump steam. (
I recall the right answer would have been adjusting the air: fuel ratio).
7) how many chapters in SOLAS ? ..12

8) What is chapter 11? ..2 parts dealing with safety and security.
9) What is Major non -confirmity ? As per ISm..defined the amended definition.
10) What is angle of loll ? How will you come to know whether a list is due to loll or weight distribution?
..tried to answer this as the answer is in saif tole but couldn't recall the exact answer...
11) What is a stiff ship ? What is a tender ship? What about their GM? explained the rolling period funda
with the formila?
Fn 4 :
1) 2-S timing diagram ? What is the period of start air v/v opening? ..5 degree before TDC to....I amde a
tukka..75 degree after TDC..( I guess it is 85 degrees)
2) MC engine bearing survey i.e overhaul procedure? ..said as per usual from manual.
3) Piston running hot? though Lube oil flow to piston normal? Somehow was blankk on this simple
question !!!
4) How to know which starting air v/v leaking? ... Shut v/v to starting air distributor, DISENGAGE
T/G...Give air kick...air from indicator cock... BUt how will you come to know which one is leaking
because some piston will be at BDC ? ..corrected answer and said ENGAGE T/G and turn the engine, the
leakage will be identified.
5) What do you mean by whenpeople say 85 % of MCR? I expalined the definition of MCR... But what do
you mean by this statement? Didn't know but said may be it refers to VIT arrangement.
Fn 5 :
1) What is Brushless excitation scheme ? drew diagram.

2) What will you do if alternator insulation low? ..due to dust, moisture, insulation breakage, oil
grease...will clean, apply varnish.
3) how will you measure air gap ? by feeler gauge. What takes the axial movement of the alternator?
pedestal bearing.
What if air gap reduced? ...will change the pedestal bearing..

4) methods of starting a heavy motor ? star-delta, auto-transformer and soft starter.
What is soft starter? explained.
5) What are breaker protections? he himself hinted by Reverse power.. I added low voltage, Oc, SC.
What is the setting of the undervoltage? ..80 % of nominal voltage
What is the setting of the reverse power? ..8-15 % of power.
6) What all protections for steering gear circuit? ..said capable of taking 200 % load current. What all
trips? No trip (Forgot that there is only SC trip !!)
Fn 6 :
1) Draw diagram of liquid ring primer? ..couldn't...was at the back of my mind to see this from McGeorge
from last one month, but didn't. ..I told him that I know the principle but am not able to draw the
diagram .
2) Type of BOilers worked upon? ..said..
3) What is membarce water wall tubes? ..He was pronouncing it as membrace so was confusing...So, I
asked him again, he repeated..so I drew the membrane water wall as per flangan.
I am missing a few questions which I do not remember at the moment.
Result : cleared 3, 5 and 6, remainig Fn 4.
Thanks to Karan Ahuja, Parag Deshpande, ravi, rahul, rajvanshi, sarfaraz, shrikant and Tolani
Notes..haha.. and my 7 yr old nephew who has come to know sulzer fuel p/p timing and main bearing
overhaul points by being a listener. GOD forbids he meets someone like Trassi or Pakhrasi..:-)
Infact when datta called and announced and told me the result, Aneja said " Why your Fn 4 also went
well ? " ..I was like...:-I...but since dutta was there, I just said " Yes sir, it also went well but may be I
missed one or two points here or there"...Thought of giving a senti dialogue to datta at this stage, but 3
functions clearance wo senti wali bhavna nahi la rahe the :-)...so thought chad yaar..kat lo fatafat..
DG SHIPPING, 08/10/12
INT-DUTTA
EXT-ARNEJA
Started wlth wat kind of ship n engines etc...
FUN-4B
1)FEATURES OF JACK BOLTS.
2)LOST MOTION CLUTCH,RTA REVERSING,WHY EXHAUST V/V CAMS ARE NOT REVERSED.
3)BOILER ACCUMULATION PRESSURE TEST,WHICH BOILER IS BETTER OF TWO N WHY SMOKE TUBE
OR WATER TUBE
4)PFR RPM?WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BET CONICAL DISC OF PFR N CLARIFIER.
5) WHAT IS CONDITION OF CLASS.
FINALLY DONE WITH CLASS 2
5 oct ,dg shipping

ext pakrashi ( 2nd time)..
appeared for 3,5,6.
he was not in a good mood as last time wn i went to him he was helping me to get to the point.. asked
me whther writtens cleared . i said yes.
fun 3 ..
1) wats is psc. how is it differnt from FSI. under wat instruments does psc come to check. wat are the
various MOU'S. which is the oldest MOU.
ANS: i said as per gautam sen. i dint understand wat he meant by the term instruments bt i guessed it
means law. i said solas, marpol,colreg,load line,ILO,stcw. bt he wanted more . than i said all the mou's
.he said ok ,now tell me paris mou consits of which all coutries..i listed out all european countries some
of them dint have a port only..he asked me africa mou consists of which countries...i cud only recall
south africa ..oldest mou is paris. he put a dot next to the question.
2)wat is a near miss. tell me any near miss situation on ur ship.

i defined near miss in my own language...which he said ok.i said i had no near miss on my ship. he than
created his own near miss situation suppose ur ship comes on collision course ,and a near miss. how will
u investigate. i said whther watch keeper was sleeping,or nt present, radar failure, no timely action taken
.etc etc...i accidently said we will now find the root cause of it. than he asked me wat is RCA( root cause
analysis)..methods of rca. how it was done on ur ship... i gave up.. he put a dot infront of the question.
3)he asked me wat type of ship have u done..i said bulk carrier and tanker..ok now tell me on ur bulk
carrier ..he kept thinking for few seconds...i was happy as i thought he was goin to ask hatch sealing
arrangement..bt suddenly he went to ancor chain. tell me the lenght of one shackle of anchor chain. i
said 27.5 m ok..how many shackles on port and starboard..i said 10 and 11. wat is the material of anchor
chain....i said steel ..he stared at me..i said 0.5 to 0.6 % carbon steel...he said there is some specfic
name for it..i said i dont knw.. agin a dot for the question.
4)tell me wat type of hatch u had ... i said side rolling. wat type of bulkhead u had in it. i said corrugated.
wat is the name of the corrugation ..i said square..he gave no response..i drew it .is there any other
shape for corrugatiion...i flucked it and said round...ok tell me the name of this type and where is it used
on ur ship...again a dot.
fun 5..
1)wat is diseal electric propulsion..i ket thinking than i asked him does he want to hear ward linard
system ..he said no...bt for one of my other frnd he accepted.. he put a cross on it.
2) wat all circuits does emergency generator feed...i said all one by one..s/g, sprinkler...all bt he wanted
more..whereas i think i left none. he put a dot.
3) suppose ur generator overspeeds wat all checks will u do on it alternator side...i said diaods. silicon
rectifiers, insulation check winding may get burnt, he wanted more. again adot
4) if the rewinding has been done to ur alternator how will u check its kw rating.
i said we will have to check by loading exteior loads..not ship loads ..he said ok....we will load slow one
by one. he siad no ..there is an instrument for ckhecking it max rated load...name of the instrument he
wanted ..i dint knw.
fun 6.
1) wat are the differnt methods of surface prepartion. i said sand blasting, hydro blasting, maually wire
brushing.he said ok wat is the pressure of hydroblasting ...i said 35000 to 45000 psi..he said ok.watis the
difference between sand and grid blasting..i said in sand we impenge sand particles at high pressure..i
grid we use brick particle.. which of the three methods gives us more better surface ...i said hydro..why
he asked becoz the the high pressure i said. is ther any criteria for hull surface finish..i said yes swedish
standard known as sa...wat is the accepatable...i said 2 to 2.5 ... suppose i use more prssure for hydro
blasting will i get better finsh i said yes..than why dont we use..i sais 2 to 2.5 is accepatble...higher
pressure mean more resourses to generate that pressure.. how do we know that we have achieved the 2
to 2.5 standard..i said we will click photis and compare them with a chart . he put a tick finally..
2) wat is the method of hull roughness analysis...i said everthing as per safe tole...he asked me
apporximate hull roughness for 20 yr old ship..i cudnt recall the value bt anyhw ii said 200 microns ..he
asked wt is the significance of HRA. i said it increases the fuel and decreases the speed....he put a tick.
3)wat is type of material used for fired pressurised vessel..he ment boiler...i said steel with carbon
content 0.3 to 04. tensile strenght 200n/mm..and elongation 10%. he asked now wat is the differnce
between the material used for prssured vessel and fired presssursied.. wat he wanted is difference
between airbottle and boiler. i said the differnce would be there in the properties like uts, elongation
etc..he asked which has more elongation i said..boiler..ok he put a tick.
5) wat is dual class vessel..i said a vessel which is classed by two socities. who will issue the load line
certificate..i said it will be decide by the flag state.. he asked in case of indian vessel classed by IRS and
LR who will issue i said IRS. OK.wat certificates are issued y class ..i said statutory and class certificate..
which is compulsorily issued by class..i said class and statutory can be issused bt flag. tell me any class
certificates...i said for example if we carry out renewal of a plate that plate has to be certified by the
class..and also the welder. thats a class certificate..ok put a tick.
6) wat is IACS. tell me all its members ..i listed all 13 members..he said ok.
result . i.. passed in fun 6. announced by gadkar .
i was expecting one more..bt no luck this time.
DATE:1/OCT/2012
trassi sir nd dutta sir
safety
y no p/v valve on lpg
new circular regarding flame arrestor
ig trips
superheater arrngtmnt. Nd superhtr safety valve setting
types of pump on lpg
motor
rtflex reversing
drydock checks bfr flooding,pitot tube, stern tube condition bfr flooding
thn dutta sir called me inside nd asked
all safety qn again nd
annex 6
eedi
seemp
sewage certificate requirement
collision blkhd diagram
bracket floors
nd sm more got safety..
DATE:1/OCT/2012
2nd attempt
Fun 4b
1.reversing of ur last ship..(MAN B&W)....hw an air distributor get reversed......wat
is overlap period...hw to calculate n significance of it...lost of cross question
2.Type of boiler in ur last ship....wat is accumulation test...wat all conditions for
accumulation test....when u will carry out an accumulation test...is it necessary to
carry out accumulation test after hydraualic testing...
3.difference between gear drive n chain drive...wat all critical spares required on
board for both...material...types of gear used...
Fun 3:
1.difference between stcw 2010 n 95...xplain in dtails each point of new amendment
of 2010...(wat all training for an able seaman...electrical officer...)
2.ISPS....all dates n all....wat all manual comes under ISPS....wat all equipments
come under ISPS...function of CSO,PFSO....wat is SSP..n content.....wat is an
illumination plan as per ISPS....location of it...
FUN 5:
1.draw a diesel electric plant n its advantage....draw layout of ER....wat all ratings
for motor...
2.draw an AVR...
FUN 6:
2.method for cleaning of hull....draw a snad blasting machine....hw to measure
thickness of paint....lots of question....
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SURVEYOR:PRAKHASI SIR AND GADKAR SIR
FUN 3
FIFTH ATTEMPT
WHAT IS MLC EXPLAIN IN DETAIL,WHAT CERTIFICATES,DLMC IN HOW MANY PARTS,WHO ASSIGNS
DLMC,WHEN MLC WILL IN FORCE.
EXPLAIN AFS CONVENTION IN DETAIL
EXPLAIN TBT.
TYPES OF STEMS AND EXPLAIN
WHAT IS SOFT NOSE
TYPES OF STERN AND SAME EXPLAIN WITH DIAGRAM.
HOW IS STERN ATTACHED.
WHERE IS BEAM KNEE ATTACHED IN STERN.
RESULT:PASSED AND CLEARED MEO CL-2.
01/10/2012
pkrasi
fun 6
1.how will u remove reciprocating bilge pump liner
overhauling procedure given in our class 2 notes for removal similar tool used in man b&w 4s liner
removal got it right
2.types of ro plant membrane how will u preserve membrane module
thin,assymetrical,aromatic,acetate,polyamide for preservation chlorine injection upto 1-5 ppm to avoid
bacterial growth on membrane this ans. in my previous aatempt given by pakrasi only but now he was
accepting this ans.
3.draw tailshaft keyway and key aarangment dimension of keyway
key was boat shaped,dia. & dimension for keywaydepth=1/2 breadth of keyway,breadth=1/5 dia. of
propeller shaft given in reed's egk chapter shafting
same previous attempt he draw same key but now he was changed his mood
4.types of brg mounted on tailshaft.
white metal,lignam vitae,thordon brg if sw cooled he wanted more
result fail
i dont know why he was not accepting answers given by himself only
but in 5th 6th attempt he was not going too much deep
some more ques. asked to other people
1.iacs n members of iacs
2.paint schme
3. me liner not coming out what will u do
4.surface preparation methods
As usual asked me to write all the questions which were asked previously.
trasi
fun 3-
1)Alternate venting arrangements on crude oil tankers cargo tanks.
2)IG trips
3)COPT trips
4)why pv valve is not fitted on gas tankers.
fun 4 b
1)new fuel oil regulations and specifications and date
2)tyes of bracing,draw and explain the arrangent on ur vessel.explain diagramatically how the load is
transmitted to bracing.
3)new circular on omd and draw and explain the c/case relief valve arragement.
fun 5
1)brushless alternator .draw and explain
2)types of alternators,volatge dip recovery time in each.
3)how electricity produced on board.
4)types of fuses with diag
5)switchboard safties.
fun6
1)m/e liner calibration procedure,precaution to be taken
,percentage of liner wear at which replacement to be done.
2)co2 level detection procedure,what is the ambient condition for test.
3)dry dock inspection
4)Rta fuel pump timimg procedure.
result: cleared fun 5
thanx all
14/08/2012 DGS
Mr Banerjee & Mr Dattar 1415-1630 (Guys I had posted the Qs from my phone after my orals...logged in now from laptop to see that it was not
posted, sry abt that)
Mr Dattar took the orals...a very nice man and gem of a Human being.
Fn3
1. Bulk carrier latest developments. told him all.
2. ISPS and What is special for containers?....I told him all about ISPS and for containers there is Container Security Initiative (CSI)...he was
satisfied.
3. Draw and explain regs for collision bulkhead...told the correct regs but messed up the diagram.
4. Types of fire detectors in engine room, with dia...he was surprised when i told him about spark/flash detectors in High Voltage System(HVS).
5. Hypermist regs and system drawing and maintainence.
6. CO2 system,calculation of CO2 bottles required, drawing, maintanence..told him about weekly,monthly,6 monthly, annually and the 5 yearly
DD. he was satisfied...but in monthly when i told him checking level onboard...he asked how? i said ultrasonic probe...if that gives a suspicious
reading then remove bottle and weigh the same..he was surprised...i told him i have done it on board...and stood my ground for this point...then he
asked me about the radio isotope method...i told him i have heard about it but do not know how it works.
7. dont remember.
8. steering gear and emergency steering gear regs...told him he was satisified....asked me draw...drawing was a mess..so dont know whether he was
satified or not.
9. ETA..what is it and which all types of ships?...was not sure about the types of ship...so told him its compulsory for tankers above 10000dwt...and
then quickly added that on my ship ETA was for and aft...and described with the dia...he was happy.
10. What is contingency plan? i had not prepared for this but told him that its a plan located on the bridge, CCR and ECR...wherein the
procedures are given for every contingency the ship might face during its operations...gave eg of grounding, sopep....he dint react.
11. dont remember. will post later when i do
12. Diff between rescue boat and lb...told him faster in water, faster hoisting speed...i was not sure of the exact number so dint say it...then told
him about some ships having a third boat as a rescue boat...he was satisfied
Fn4
1. Diff btw fuel sys of rtflex and ME engine?...told him but got stuck at the diagram of the slide valve arrangement in the fuel valve of me.
2. dont remember.
3. type of cyl lub sys on rtflex presently? told him pulse lub sys...drew the diagram...then asked me what was the difference between the pulse lub
and accumuator sys before?...could not answer him satisfactorily.
4. dont remember.
5. power calc...told him as per sanyal...no reaction.
6. How is wrong way interlock compensated for in Man BnW?....told him wrong way alarm...what are essential conditions for it to be
activated?...told him that telegraph signal not matching...he said there are more...messed up the manouvering diag.
7. diff btw x hd brg of rtflex and me....told him the usual diff bw man and sulzer x hd...he was not satisfied he said there is more.
8. Dont remember.
Fn5
1. What type of distribution sys on your ship?...i said HVS..how much 6.6KV...he said draw...he was satisfied.
2. speed control mechanism for a ac motor, described the frequency control mech.satisfied.
3. Where is SF6 found? i said it it the inerting gas in the MCB on a HVS distribution...he was happy.
4. Checks on alt wire from msb...told him as per prev posts.
5. Which is safer fuse or relay?...i said relay...no reaction.
6. Function and maintainence of shaft generator and synchronous condensor...told him all as per dt hall...he looked satisfied.
7. Battery maintainence...told him everything...stopped me half way.
Fn6
1. What is running in period?...told him the definition..with example of new piston and liner which i had overhauled....had an argument over the
exact time for rtflex...he did not believe...told him i had done 8 units in last ship and that i can show him photos of the same...he looked
surprised...then asked me about man bnw...i said i do not remember.
2. Chain checks, tightening procedure and camshaft adjustment....told him correctly but messed up the diag.
3. LO test report....water effects,cyl lo effects, fuel effects....got stuck at 1% pentane and butane.
He was now looking at the time again and again...
4. What are the vibrations induced by propeller and how will you remedy that?...told him phenomenon of propelller singing...he did not
accept...told him not proper ballasting...he said that is not what i am looking for.
5. dont remember.
6. what is pintle bearing and where is it?...i said its in the rudder and utillised to secure the rudder to the stern...he said if you secure it it wont
move...what is the correct word?...i could not answer...he was not satisfied by the diag.
16/08/2012
DG shipping
Internal:Mr Datta, External:Mr Pakrashi
Function 4b:
Which all engines u worked on?only SMC & MC-C, but I studied sulzer also.
Q.1. Main Bearing overhaul of ur engine. I started from “Company informed” Then he asked why? I said as per ISM, SMC we have to inform.
“Immobalisation, Risk assessment,isolation of engine, enclosed space entry,………………..marking on upkeep and shell………..
If new bearing old engine is not fitting properly, what u will do?
Bedding of bearing, tool having 45’ angle……….
Can u do bedding in ur brg. I said no, it is thin shell brg Flash layer is present..
Q.2. Starting air distributor?how does it function?If we increase cylinders say 20units then will it require distributor? In RT flex there is no
distributor.?How it works?What is provided in there? Solenoid v/vs r operated electronically, there is a proximity switch to sense the angle on
flywheel and PLC gives signal to solenoid valves. At what angle it sends air(5’ BTDC) and termination of air(110).
Q.3. T/c ?What type of T/C?-Const press.
which company?ABB.
T/C compression ratio- 2.5:1
How T/C Lo and Exhaust gases are separated- Labrynth seal.Draw the dig.
Q.4.Types of safety valve, which one on ur ship? Draw.
Function 3:
Q.1. ISM amendments, Which is most important amendment ? Non confirmity
Q.2. STCW 1995, why is it necessary to amend? Chapters in detail.
Q.3. Stern Tube, how it is connected? Material of S/T -C.I., LO flow
Q.4.Oil tanker cross section,How the tank is connected?
Cleared with cl-II.
17 dgs mr parkasi
Type of ships done, boilers done ,engines done all details asked and checked from form 15
4)
Wat type of chain in me,
How to tight ,how to check,
Effect of loose chain on engine
On timing,
Got a tick
Wat concepts of bearing lubrication , cross question on hydrodynamic and elasto hydrodynamic lubrication ,where boundary lubrication,
Wat quality of lub oil assisting all these lubrication , sae of lub oil ,difference in sulzer and man cross head lubrication ,failing cross question
kinematic viscosity of lub oil ,
Where fatigue in 4 s trunk engine ,said Conrod bolts , explain why fatigue , at wat angles cycle reverses . Time to renew bolts , inertia whipping at
bolt wen max , then asks to draw , said tole ka bolt banana , ask can this be actually fabricated and used , I said I don't know ,,big cross
One more crazy question ,I didn't even understand , i smiled , he smiled and puts a cross
6)
Ism code ,,,documents required , which documents gives ur responsibility ,

Wat the most hazardous job in ur responsibility , I said bunker tank inspection , before u do this work wat u do, I said toolbox meeting,asks then
wat ,said risk assessment, wat is that how u do ,explained him risk matrix consequence and likelihood Walla , wat to do of high risk , I said reduce
the risk, wat is risk cannot be reduced , said then we provide insurance, put a tick
Wat documents as per ISPs code ,

Asked everything in ISPs ,failing question wat are drawings on ships as per code,
I Said Location of ISPs equipment and non authorised area location (place where outside ppl not allowed has some technical word for it in
code),,wanted more I said don't know ,,,puts nothin
Csr in ISPs , wats the use ,

Wat all item , told around 7=8,
Said this not even 30 percent
cross
Batti
Avr ,Tick
Ecosounder on ship where , operation how wave sent and received ,gave gyan on piezoelectric crystal same as in boiler interface detection, tick
Dc generator ,working ,rectified how , draw commutator , brushes , shape ,cylindrical with slotted, I said not slotted actually but with non
conducting material, ask wat material and have u not seen car self starter, i said sir i have no car ,puts no remark
Types of starter ,
Asks soft starter , working of scr in it , tick,
Mep,
How sealing of stern tube,

How lip seal attached on chrome liner, cross
Wat was ur boilers load ,

Wat u mean by load , said %evaporation rate upon max evaporation rate , wat pressure ,wat kind of steam , said saturated , didn't ask abt
superheater jo main padhke Gaya tha , no remark
Copt gland sealing why ,
To avoid air ingress and loss of vacuum , draw the seal , drew labyrinth seal , difference in seals at driving and free end, didn't know that ,,cross
Draw stuffing box arrangement with seal of Copt , something like that pata Nahin Kya tha,,,,,cross
Surveyor calls external

Jumps to safety again
Bulk carrier hatch sealing,
And
Anti fouling paint system on ship,wat is spp how self polishing , thickness how determined as how much thickness required on wat factor.
Requirement of spp to work ,,,finally draw structure of the spp chemical physical don't know wat he wanted ...
Wat is class certificate , how validated ,example of condition of class , wat is class notation
Said structural requirement satisfied by ship then notation is given, wat kind of notation said different for tanker and bulk,,,wat actually ,,,,was
not sure,,,asked him wat is it ,,,,he told abt class notation for 5 mins at least,,,don't remember a bit of it,,,
Tell to wait outside,,
Internal Called to tell I cleared batti , rest agli bar Aana..
16.08.2012
dg shipping : earlier told tat orals wuld b taken by banerjee later taken by ghosh and result declared by sukumar
function 3:
1. types of gauging in chemical tankers...open and close ...where given .. told ibc code ch 17.. how close gauging done..
2. wat is alternative venting arrangement...not able 2 explain properly...
3. if pv vv stuck wat other alternative given .. told him abt the pr sensor and alarms fitted .. so need 2 take action manually...
4. working if UTI...how 2 use it in case n2 padding is tere...told him abt the 3 modes .. ullage, interface and temp...select appropriate and fit the
UTI on the sounding pipe without opening the vv ( not sure said its a flap vv similar 2 tat found on the bunker sounding pipes) and turn the
handle till u get beep... later abt the interface and temp...
5. wat all instruments r used 2 measure the multi gas onboard...how dragor tubes r used .. explain in detail complete procedure...
6. draw rudder ... how pintles r secured...why dont they fall down ..and wat facilitates the ease of movement.. told brgs r used...
7. lifeboat falls testing procedure ... static and dynamic testing as given in gautam sen ...asked while dynamic testing in drydock if falls break or
centrifugal break fails then boat will go and fall on dock and will damage the boat completely.. so wat is done 2 avoid the damage .. thukka mara
tha ... shore cranes r used 2 support and take load if the falls or break fails .. got it rite ..
function 6:
1. wat is MPI .. how 2 magnetise the shaft..
2. wat is interference fit, advantages ... examples...crankshaft..prop and shaft...etc
3.arc weldin current ... for 3.14mm dia weldin rod ... 100-120 amps..wat is temp at arc centre... wat is melting point of steel..
4. how O/B pipe fitted ... how doubler plate is attached 2 shell as it has a curvature...thickness of the pipe ...told him tat wuld b proportional 2 the
shell thickness argued why not same ... said we will take factor of safety into consideration.. not satisfied...
5. wat is schedule of pipe .. eg... how 2 measure it...measure id and divide by thickness...
6.ballast tank testing procedure.. told him tat will fill the tank completely till the sounding pipe 2 get max head possible for testing... xques...not
always possible 2 fill tank due 2 trim/list...said can b tested by air...explain...blank vent chk manhole gasket not leakin..blank suction pipe ..or
other fittings were there is possiblity of air leakin... teres a plug provided on the manhole .. remove it and attach a pipe wit control vv and pr
gauge.. and pressurise the tk till equivalent amt of water head is applied.. for eg.. if ballast tk is 10 m high then apply 1 bar pr 2 test and hold for
15-20 mins if pr not drops then ok...
7. one more don remember...
result ... cleared both ... done wit cl 2 .. thank u
16.08.12 DG Shipping (GHOSH)

Fn3
1.In VLCC wht arrangement provided to avoid sloshing?Draw?
2.Hw O/B v/v attached to ship hull plate? Hw doubler plate manufactured in line with shell curvature?Draw?
3.Why in shallow water it need to reduce ship speed?
4.Diff. between H2S detector & tankscope?

5.If ur P/V v/v is choked, wht alternate arrangement provided?
Fn5
1.AVR & working? X que- Hw d excitation field get supply from main? Is it direct 440V applying to excitation field?
2.Ex-i?Draw ckt & explain?Why 2 zener diodes r used?
3.Cable wire diameter & resistance relationship?If dia bigger thn resistance will be more/less?
4.Hand rubber gloves & Rubber mating Insulation resistance value?
5.Hw star to delta switchover is done?
6.In DC Gen field is rotating/stationary?
Fn6
1.MPI test?Hw it done on round shaft?
2.Welding Amp & temp at tip of electrod?
3.Flame screen?
4.CO2 bottle testing?.....hyd test…..ask 2 draw….if doing with hyd oil thn hw will u clean oil after test?
5.While fixing bottom brg bolts if C/E ask to put some oil since it is not entering in hole properly wht will u do?why?
6.LB brake test procedure….Static & Dynamic?
………..Cleared Fn3 & Fn5
Que 2 other candidates……..
Ghosh
1.Rudder
2.TIG
Pakrashi
1.Diff between magnetic contactor & relay?
2.AVR
3.Commutator
Orals @ DGS (16/08/2012)

2nd Attempt
Appearing functions 3,5&6
Mr. Ghosh & Mr. Sukumaran
Function 3
1. At what pressure HP line of CO2 system is pressure tested?
2. Hydraulic pressure testing of CO2 bottle? How is the hydraulic liquid removed from the bootle after pressure testing?
3. Parametric rolling in container ships
4. Draw rudder
Function 5
1. AVR
2. Difference between magnetic contactor and relay.
3. Where DC Motors used on ship?
4. Alternator field rotating or stationary.
5. Incoming alternator not developing voltage.
6. Why we use megger and not multimeter for measuring insulation resistance?
Function 6
1. TIG welding and applications.
2. where all interference fit is used on ships?
3. Draw centrifugal pump and show which clearances to check.
4. Is it justified to use oil on con rod bolts before tightening? If not Why?
Result: Cleared functions 5 & 6 ; repeat function 3
Questions to other people.

* Type of gauging on ur ship? full form of UTI?diagram? if one gauge dysfunctional what to do?
* Draw rudder. how connected to rudder post?
* Like black box what do u have on ship? VDR storage and time. On Indian ships wat is used instead of VDR
* Microsiezure of main bearing.

* On board how to do hydraulic testing of exhaust valve?
* While grinding of exhaust v/v and seatg what are the angles and why different?
* Indicator diagrams.
* Radio isotope co2 bottle level measurement.

* MPI
* How u order pipes on ship and what are schedule 40 , 80 etc.
orals @ dgs interna mr. dutta & external mr.pakraaasi.......

function 5:-
1)avr circuit diagram nd explain... also when the volatges are transformed what are d voltages......
2)commutator diagram nd how r d brushes supported nd attached to the stator.
3)shore cable thickness,sheathing composition nd amerage.
4)echo sounder fitted where nd how does d cicuit work.
function 3:-
1)rest hrs nd how do u mantain d filing of this nd who ratifies it.
2)mlc comes under which convention nd what certificates are issued.nd what all are d requirements for getting the certificates.
3)ism amendments.
4)name of classification societies atleast 8.
fucntion 4b:-
1)what types are d main engine bottom end bearing for man b& w & draw d cross section of d bolts.
2)where nd how d strsses are acting in 4 stroke engines on d bottom end bolts.
3)what type of safety v/v on ur ship i said full bore lift then he asked me d diff between full bore safety v/v nd improved high lift v/v told him abt d
piston operated v/v then asked me abt d workitng of high lift safety v/v.
4)superheater use nd show in d boiler where superheater is fitted.
function 6:-
1)when d ship is entering dry dock which part of the ship sits on d keel blocks.
if sole plate is provided how does it rest.
2)cavitation nd how does it take place on a centrifugal p/p nd what precautions are to be taken to prevent cavitation.
3)what arrangements are provided to support d stern tube.
result repeat all functions......
func 4b and 6:
internal tambekar ext trassi...
tambekar took the orals
1. how to overhaul the stuffing box by taking it in the crankcase?
2. u have to go into drydock.prepare a list of what all the jobs u will do?
3. ur a 2nd engr and u have to pass instructions to ur 5th engr as to what all he will look out for cause the ship is sailing in extremely bad weather?
i thought since it was 5th engr alone i listed out a lot of things like taking soundings,avoiding filling up our tanks to a high level cause then it would
overflow into the o'flow tanks and all securing and all....he said u should have said that no one will be given any jobs to do cause it's bad weather
and its dangerous so i asked him that as far as 5th engr is concerened these are the things that i would tell him...but he said no ..this also u should
tell ...as a 2nd engr ur job is mainly MAN MANAGEMENT and thats what we are looking for these orals....
4. SMC main bearing overhaul....diagrams for each step.
5. rudder is breached ..how will u come to know..
i told him that we will take out the plug and see if water is coming out that means its breached...and he said u should mention SEAWATER and
not just water...didn know what to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. SMC piston draw and explain the flow of oil in it and how to pressure test and what are all the checks u will do on overhauling it?
everything right...except..i said we will test it with 7 bar water by pumping it from underneath instead of AIR....and the template we put on the
crown to check the burnout...the clearance is measured at the periphery...please check the manuals...i said after placing it on the crouwn the gap
that is shown in the center we can put a feeler gauge and check it....this he said is defr wrong...so guys please take care...
cleared 6 repeat 4b....somethings better than nothing i guess!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOTE: please be very specific in ur answers...there is no doubt that he is a wonderful person and probably the best guy to take ur orals but please
maintain the focus even in between his jokes...all the best!!!...cheers!!!
External Mr. Pakrashi & Internal Mr.Dutta
All functions..
1.What r types of AC. motor...explain pole change motor..?
2.What is insulations types...give/R motor value?
3.Shore connection box..checks,location,interlocks?
4.Bottom end brg dia & how connecting rod is attached to it?
5.What is lost motion...diagram..working...location...?
6.What is class note?
7.Sctw 95?
8.Stern tube lubrication...how sea wtr ingress is prevented..diag?
9.Reverse osmosis...membrane material?
10.Ballast wtr management?
11.Prefrential trip?
12.Main engine side girder diag?how it is attached
13.4S lube oil properties? TBN value?
FIRST ATTEMPT DG DUTTA & GHOSH
1.FN3
-ARRANGEMENT TO PREVENT SLOSHING IN TANKER.
-RUDDER DIAGRAM IN DETAIL.
-SOME QUESTION ON CO2 ,ISOTOPES,DINT UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
2.FN4b
-INDICATOR CARD,DRAW & EXPLAIN,HE IS INTERESTED IN DRAW CARD ,P vs CRANK ANGEL.
-EXPLAIN POWER CARD WITH RESPECT TO POSITION OF VALVE ON THEM.
-TOO MANY CROSS QUESTIONING ON CARD.
-REASON FOR PITTING ON MAIN BEARING ONLY.
-REASONS FOR LATE START OF INJECTION AND EARLY END OF INJECTION.
3.FN5
-AVR DIAGRAM , EXPLAIN.TOO MANY CROSS QUESTION.
- REALY & MAGNETIC CONTACTOR DIFFERENCE.
-EXI CKT EXPLAIN. VALUE.
4.FN6
-CENTRIFUGAL PUMP CLEAREANCE.
- WHAT IS MAGNETIC PARTICLE TEST.
-HOW TO TEST ANY PLUG.
SOME MORE QUESTION ,IF REMEMBER I WILL POST IT LATER.

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RESULT PASS FN5
DGS - 16-8-2012
int- Mr Sukuraman, ext- mr. ghosh
FN-3
wat ships hav u sailed ( bulk n ro-ro)
then he drew d ship facing stbd side n divided it with tranverse bulkhead's n then he asked me to draw hw d b/h will look from tat side ....i drew
stool n etc as shown d books ..ok
2. vdr - its func , location etc ( didnt know this )

3. radioisotope measurement method fr CO2- wat r its limitation ( he gave me hint -something 2 do wit atmosphere...obv. pr & temp ) ...i didnt
know .
4. wat is Harmonised survey. ( told him why it is done ..then grilling wit wat certificates etc r harmonised )
FN-4
1. main bearing micropitting reasons ( straight answer - brg is grounded to hull while shaft is separated from brg by oil film ,so there exist a
potential diff ).thanx to d guy who helped me wit this during discussion outside .
2.why overlap is required for starting air ( answered ..ok ...then asked me to explain with a diagram , drew d -ve cam n showed two control pistons
in the -ve profile where 1 is phasing out n other phasing in ...yeh mera tukka tha ...bt accepted )
3. draw indicator diag , draw card .... lot of x-Q's..on it .
4. 4-S botm end bolt , why needs to b changed after specific time period ( fatigue stress n d funda etc...etc )
note - almost all Q's need a diag to his satisfaction ....as he says a 2nd Engg shud b clear wit his diag n understanding .
result - cleared fn -4
Old MMD...fifth attempt function 4B

Internal : Mr. Barik
Enternal : Mr. Mishra
1. Explain VIT. Compare power of VIT and NON VIT engines
2. Types of safety valves, which one you had on boiler, i said full bore..told me to draw figure, i draw and explained
3. why prefer full bore safety valve over conventional safety valves
4. what is relationship between pressure and enthalpy..i didnt understand that question
cleared funtion 4B, CLASS 2 PASS.
THANKS TO SEAMANS CLUB GANG. SPECIAL THANKS TO Vijeth Shetty , Nitin Juneja , Raghav Khanna, Samarth Sharma , Rajnish
Choubey, Shekhar Yadav and Gaurav Malkoti. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!! CHEERS!!!
14th august first attempt

DGS
internal: sukumaran external: bhadwal
function 3
1. alternate venting arangement in crude oil tanker? pv valve stuck what to do?
how see pressure?
2. draw rudder and explain. draw both the pintle bearing.
3.
function 4:
1. which engine?
2. turning gear motor out and engine given kick, what will happen. it will break. y?
flywheel will not turn the gears in the turning gear. y? show the arrangement of the gears. draw
3. difference between long and short tie rods . where used?

4. automatic starting air valve cross section diagram and explain how to ohl. what precations and clearences to be noted?
5. main bearing pitting . caiuses/
6. spark erossion in the main bearing . expalin in detail.
goofed it up. and then finally he was satisfied. he aslked me the dielectric strength of the oil film
7. cat fines? how they come . limits . where stated?
8. what r homogenisers. how do they work. what r there uses.
function 5.
1. avr draw. cross questions. working . use of zener diodes. how scr trigger circuit works/? please note that in mc george the diagram is wrong as
told by surveyor and told that u people only mug it up and dont follow the basics. please draw the transformer in the supply line in the SCR
bridge rectifer also, as full voltage can not be given to ScR
2. dc motors where used? told deck machineries. y? what is the difference if AC motor is used. normally on board only AC motors are used for
deck machineries then y dc motors.
3. working of a dc motor.
4.alternators parallel running. same KW and VOLTAGE, but they share different currents by large amount. what r the causes and how to rectify
them
5. intrisically safe equipments. ;lots of cross questions. draw safety barrier? y two zener diodes?
6.
function 6.
1TIG , what r the consumables, which metals uses tig, what is the voltage.
2. rudder and double bottom plugs testing to be carried out just before leaving dry dock how will u do?
3. lifeboat davit brake testing? how to do?
lots of x questions. what load it is carried out. do you really load the boat.
how much load value to be used for a 50 person boat. told ((50*82.5+ boat weight+ boat equipments) FOS)* 110% or 150%
he accepted this but asked will u really load the boat. what if while dymnamic testing falls break it will damge the boat.
so how will u test the brake at the specified load.
,mmay more questions i dont remmber them now. my oral lasted for 2 hours.
result.:- internal told u have done good in function 3 and 4 but what happened in function 5? i told sir i was well prepared for function 5 but i got
confused and couldnt give correct answers.
he told me to sit and again oral started for another half an hour on function 5.
questions are :-
types of exitations?
how flux is geenerated in alternator.
dc carbon pile exiter.
volatge more and less what r the effects.?
conditions of synchronisation?
sychroscope draw? and explain?
types of sheathing of alternator cable?
final after a long wait....

result declared :_
cleared fn 3,4,5
and repeat fn 6.
' it was a music to my ears after hearing cleared 3,4,5
14/08
int-Mr.Barikh, ext-Mr.Mishra.
old mmd.
function 3&6
what is solas chap 11, what it deals with.

isps function,how decides security level.
draw portable foam applicator,its capacity,operating range,how does it work.
what is marpol annex 6,sox &nox latest reg.
fridge compressor eveporator coil has oil contamination, how to clean.
fridge compressor gas leaking,possible points of leakage,how to rectify.
what r the ism documents.
man b&w crosshead bearing, removal and inspection of upper shell.
fresh water generator making more wtr, resolve the issue.
function 3 cleared. function 6 next time.
date 14 aug 2012 1st attempt........... dg shipping..........
internal mr. gadakar............ external mr. parkrashi............
fn 3.
1. stcw 1995 amendment occurs.........y???????
2. international labour convension2006
3. collision bulkhead loacation and how it is constructed?????? wat type of bulkhead it is???????
4. type of boiler safety v/v and its lifting pressure
fn 4.
1. he asked me wat all r the engines i have done........
my last engine was smc
then he asked me wat type of exhaust v/v on ur last ship???
i didnt replly anything........
then he asked me "r u aware of type of exh. v/v?"
i said "no"
then he told me that its about seating
2. how reversing occurs in sulzer engine?????
3. types of fresh water produce on board.......
i said 1. fresh water generator
2. reverse osmosis
he wants more......... i said "thats all i know"
then he asked me "wat type of mambrain used in reverse osmosis"
4. how weight of the rudder is carried? location of pintle.....
fn 5
1. eco sounder location and its working principle..........
2. woking of avr
3. types of induction motor?
4. types of starter
i replied 1. dol
2. star delta
3. stpped transformer
then he asked me to explain about soft starter..........
fn 6.
1. wat cheks u vl do during centifugal p/p overhauling
cross que how wear ring clearence to be cheked???????
2. types of bearing used in stern tube bearing............
3. how key less propeller fit in tapered tailshaft????????
i replied some of his ques........... but i cudnt reply his cross que.........
result : repeat all functions
Old mmd fourth attempt func 5

Types of starter
Draw auto transformer starter
How to prevent electric shock
How to check life jacket light
How to test emergency generator on load
Intrisically safe and explosion proof equipments
DG SHIPPING.. FIRST ATTEMPT.. 10TH AUG

ALL FUNCTIONS
MR. PAKRASI
1. What was common in the bearings (main bearings, crosshead bearing,etc) of the engines u have worked on?
what are the layers? what materials?

2. What are the differences between Short and Long tie Rods? Where are they?
3.What system of antifouling paints is used? and where on ship?
4. Draw the shore connection cable. What are sheathings, specifications and safeties?
5. How induction motor works? what are the three types of induction motors u have on ship?
6. What is synchronous motor? how it works? how is it started? how it runs at synchronous speed?
7.What are the pole changing motors? where are they used?
8. WHat is commutator? how it works? explain how it does half wave rectification? how and where is it attached?
9.Where is High Tensile Steel used on ship?
10. What are the Statutory Certificates and Classification Certificates? Give examples?
11. When did ISPS come in force? What is CSR in ISPS?
12. WHere is chrome liner on ship? How is it fitted and removed?
13. How to test relief valve on 4 Ram steering Gear system?
14. how often thrust bearing is surveyed? how to carry out survey? what all to check?
15. WHat kind of safety valve was there on ur boiler?
16. WHat improves the lift in Improved high lift safety valves?
17. WHat kind of bulkheads are there in bulk carrier?
18. What are the kind of watertight bulkheads?
Result: Washout
Orals at OLD MMD...2nd attempt on 9/08
Met Mr. Trasi again..!!

Type of Ships done: LPG t tankers, PCC
Askd me whr i use to load cargo and the dischage...
Func 3:1) Density of Butane and Propane...( i was like shit i was suppose to remember that...but nothing i cud recall..but its 2.4gm/cm3 butane,
2.01 gm/cm3)
2) Type of Pump for LPG carriers..went into detail...and the safties associated with it.(drew the dia of the same.. told him.. anti rotational device,
cargo seal , carbon brushes for supporting the shaft..( you will get it in previous posts bout Deep well pumps earlier on FB)
3) Collision Bulkhead drawing and how is it diffrent from watertight b/h..(told him bout all the stuff... then asked me to draw the plate stiffner
and how is it attached to the bulkhead..drew it... i had drawn horizontal channel beams at two places along the b/h's height ..went in detail of
channel beam...n gess he dosent want to see channel beams on bulkhead.. i had seen it in sf notes i gess)..so put a dot on this quest.
4) structure of ship fwd of collision bulk head..draw the same...drew what ever i could. agreed.( draw the arrangement of chain locker and the
frame spacing..will ask you ho
5) asked one more cannot recall it now.but i got it wrong.
Func 4B
what kind of engines u have done...happy to hear smc,smcc,sulzer and mitsubishi..!!
1) whats the significance of Mark for MAN B & W and whats the latest Mark ? (its bout MEp of engine..latest one is mark 9..with 21 mep..) got a
tick.
2)asked bout the refrigerant i was using on board.( told him R134A..wrote it on his paper) asked me how will u diffrenciate b/w freon and
R134a).told him colour..said ok..what colour is 134a..told him Green for 134a..and orange for freon.. and the name wud be written on the bottle..
but guys the colour is other way round...!! gess he did not pay much attn on the same.
3)asked me bout the diffrence of purifier and clarifier..told me to tell 8 problems i encountered on board...asked me bout the arrangement of the
sealing water and supply of opening and closing water..the pressure before and after the solenoids as i was not ving gravity tank and it was a
direct supply from hydrophore..!! told him bout pairing disc...gess it was an info for him.
4)now came the reversing of all the kind of engines i did....told him...evrything.. and had a lil cross quest on mitsubishi...but told him...he put a dot
on the same..
Func 5)
1)emergency swb under wch chapter of solas...? tell me to write all the safeties...misd upon the space behind the swbd...n gess for him it was the
most important safety.(gave me 5 minutes to recall this safety...but i cud not and he puts a dot
2) safties on switch board...told him under voltage(no voltage), over current, reverse power trip.. asked me the procedure to test the same.. told
him...!
3)working of induction motor. told him bout squrrel cage motor
4) asked me how current is produced on board... he told me to tell every thing what happens in alternator.. n i i fumbeled bout the residual
magnetism location in the alternator.(gess that was the failing question...n he told i shud know this on tips of my hand.)
func 6)
1)process of refrigerant charging ... old him bout the vaccum bottle...and he does not agree to this process but stuck to it..and told him bout the T
block as shown in oral notes.. puts a dot
2)types of threads on Freon bottle. i told him Taper and asked me if its left or right handed..told him left handed..(don know if its right)
3)write down air compressor all safeties..had a discussion bout why non return valve on discharge line..and the location of coolers and what kind
of intermediate coolers i had.( gess non return valve is to isolate the compsr when wrking on the same..as told by my frnds..) had cartridge type of
intercooler Tanabee.
4) Bursting disc gone during manouv.. what will i do.. ( told him ask the master and enquire bout the situation..if not that serious... and if its
possible to give less movements for a period of half n hour. ) if he says...yes then i will replace the bursting disc with a spare one from the store. got
a tick.
and then he asked me to wait.. but i cud see more dots than right and wrongs.
mr. Tambekar n Trasi called us and gave results. Passed 4B & 6.
22 August 2012.
Mr. Biswas sir and BKRC sir..
function appeared 4b and 6.
fn 4. & 6
1. mps ..all about it ..all details and formulae .. full touch n pass i said..
2.actions after low lo pr. alarm till stopping of engine.. all the funda of governor and actuating of puncture valve.
3.catfines ..alsi ..value ..the different sizes .. i told him 5 to 30 microns.. ways waof removing .. wat special procedures will be done.. and all that ..
4. conrod top survey ..
5.taking out of a liner..of me..dunt say jackin method ..
6.bottom end overhaul and replace of ae engine..
7. reverse osmosis.. the whole funda :D ..
8.chain tightening is the place where i screwed up big time.. told sir everythin but couldnot draw the chain pattern rite ..got confused badly ..n
hence d result..
9. diagram of tool for the hanging of cross head...
10. cant remember ....
result ..Fun 4b passed. Repeat function 6.
1 wat are regulation for non return valve in compressor line

2..density of ammonia
3..if paading is in chemical tanker how to discharge..trassi sahab wat he want in this question answer.
4..IMDG carriage regulation..where and how to carry
5..wat is class note
6..main engine side girder how it attach
7..how to test any plug
8..when purging air where does it goes in refer system...trassi sahab which answer accept..
28th aug old mmd 4th attempt dattar fn 3 & 4b

1. Deck fire fighting system on tankers
2. Structure fwd of collision b/h
3. Propllr mounting on tail shaft things to be checked
4. What is pintle brg
5. Damage & intact stability
6. Ism code
7. Pump rm b/h
8. Mnc if found during sailing what to do
9. DB tks in tanker upto whr it's xtended frm whr I.e location frm whr to whr
10. In damage stability how many min. Compartment can submerged as per rule
1. Diff Btwn smc & rta

2. Diff btwn smc & rta x- head brg
3. Smc xhead brg how many grooves and the position of grooves
4. Ccai , whr it affects more 2 s or 4 s
5. Ccr if more how to ctrl carbon residue
6. Hot n Cold corrosion
7. Piston ring mtrl
8. Top ring name it's mtrl it's fn.
9. Liner polishing reasons other than xcess caco3 in 2s
10. Reasons 4 piston ring breakage
29th OCT Dg shipping, trassi n dutta. 8th attempt fn3. Both were in a very good mood.
1) IBC Code comes under which chapter of solas n which annex of marpol? What is the name of the
chapter and annex?
2) ISM code in detail, what is DOC, SMC, audits?
3) Marpol n solas latest ammendments.
4) IBC code, types of ships n cargos? Veg oil n palm oil comes under which category of chemicals?
Dats it finally cleared class II.
orals at dgs 29th august

mr trassi and dutta
only func iv b
Q:write down the previous questions
---told him wat ever i remebered but have prepared well for those
Q:describe rt flex engine?
told him wat ever i knew---propulsion control via user interface connected to wecs 9520/fcm20 which
operates the icu ,vcu,and the starting system--also connected to crank angle encoder and and a tacho
signal for tdc position.operation of icu and the common rail system complete...vcu...and starting system
then told him about the pulse lubrcation and how servo rail operates the pulse lu sys and also the icu.
X quest-most powerful rtflex engine---how much is the power said dont know..
Q:why centrifugal pumps cannot handle air?-this quest was asked by him in my first attempt
---ans--i explained it with the help of p/p characteristics
ie the curve shows the head and the capacity of the p/p---but this characteristic remains same for any
fluid the pump is provided with.but actual head creeated for any other fluid which that particular pump
has to handle has to be calculated first.
eg--the pump is desiged for fresh water--lets say the max head is 100 mtrs but now if i want to pump oil
of sp frav 0.8 then the heal(meters liquid column will be---100x0.8 ie 80 mtrs and this can be converted
to pressure generated 80/10.2 bar
but if now the same pump has to handle air with spec gravity 0.00012 then the head created is
100x0.00012 which is too less this is why the air cannot be pumped.
x quest----then why t/c is able to handle air

ans---the speed is too high ---the head of the cen pump too can be raised if by design we can raise its
speed eg t/c speed 15000 rpm while p/p is about 800 to 1500 only.
Q:-x blow down of boiler

asked me to wait outside and then declared the result----passed
thanx to this group and all the gud wishers helping me crack out this exam
finished with class ii
all the best to all of you
4th sept. 1st attempt..Internal Mr.Sukumaran..external Pakrasi...pyaar se le lii..

only Pakrassi took orals..Mr Sukumaran was busy with other work.
each section he asked four questions..before starting orals ,,he confirmed me with ..is it your first
time?,,,and Presea college and prepartory cousre college.
fn 4B
your last engine..
1.Crosshead bearing how the clearance is achieved..how will u increase the clearance..
2.which type of boiler u had on ship,,,how tubes are attached..
wht types of steam produced ,now u want superheated steam change your boiler to superheated
steam,,show it on diagram...flow of exhuast..
3.chocks ,material of chocks..how manufactured ,,how will you surface finishing is done,,diagram...how
they are placed there?if your engine is misaligned how will u aligned it w.r.t to chocks?too many cross
questioning.
4.short tie rod and long tie rod ,,how to tigthned them..procedure not sequence..
FN 3
1.ISM Code all dates..and to which ships applicable...all operational clauses..
wht comes under personnel and resources clause,
2.ISPS code how many clauses.or parts ...as nothing was coming in my mind for this ...so at start only i
gave up...so no more cross questions on this...straight away cross.
3..how stern tube fitted ,,bearing material..
4.all stautary certificates u will checked onboard as a 2nd engr..alll class certificates.
IOPP certificates suplement...i dont know wht he wants to listen in this ...as i told everything on this but
not accepted,,,
FN 5
1.Self sycronous motor,,use onboard ship...its working principle..
2.types of induction motor...speed control ..use,pole changing method diagram..how speed control is
achieved...
3.matrial of shore cable ,,supplied in DD.
FN 6
1.keyed propeller..how troque is transmitted,,,taper ratio,,material of key..then if grinded to what
ratio..and lot more ,,.
2.wasted bolt diagram ...material,,
3.anchor chain dimension,,,length of your anchor chain ,why 11 and 12 shackles ,,why cant be both
same,,,
4.Wht checks to be carried on shore asupply cables..,,wht all information on shore supply box...now on
your ship 60 hz supply,,and shore supply is 50 hz,,can you used it...and how will used it..method...I said
we cant use,,,he said u can use,,,and u'll cum to kno ,,,He Said wait outside,,Mr Sukumaran will tell you
result.
That's all ...i thought i will get electrical..but nothing ..reapeat all..
Orals at DGS by Mr Trassi and Mr Dutta on 06-09-12
Mr.Trassi started with usual stuff as in types of ships done and all..told him i did Bulk Carriers..he asked
me have u cleared all your writtens to which i happily told him tht i have..
F3:
1. Whts the difference between a handymax bulker and a capsizer bulker (told him about the difference
in their respective DWTs as in for handymax is upto 60,000 and capsizers are upto 1,00,000 dwt)..He
asked me the type of divisions of bulk carriers (told him handysize, handymax, panamax and
capsizers)..he said my friend u r forgetting one very important one..i was like no m not..he said u forgot
suezmax ( i said sir i am sorry but tht doesnt come under bulk carrier and thts for tanker) he said r u
sure?? i said yea i am//he said v gud..and put a tick..
2. tell me about Enhanced Survey Programme ( was taken aback as i wasnt expecting this and hadnt
prepared it as well..but told him all i could remember wt i had studied for my writtens once upon a time
from GAUTAM SEN) he said u r quite right but i want u to know more details about it..and put a dash
against it..
3. Asked me to draw sections and longitudanal drawing for collision and tranverse bulkhead ( drew it as
we all know..draw a normal watertight bulkhead for transverse bulkhead)..got a tick..
4. Asked about airlock in gas tankers ( drew as per given in atul patil notes..plz do mention the
ventillation fan and the exhaust fans also in the drawing..much thanks to my batchmate Rahul Tiwari for
his last minute insight to me on this..) got a tick
5. Asked me how to test a bulk carrier hatch cover for watertightness ( told him all about the hose test
but shit i coulnt recall the pressure..told him sir i cant recall exactly but should be btw 5-7 kg/cm2..he
gave a blank look and put another dash...
F-4B
(made a shit out of this)
1. RTA fuel p/p timing..(told him everything taking proper care tht i dont forget to mention any small
point, he asked me about the func of pressure bush..told him its to hold the valve seat..he asked me how
is it taken out..mentioned about the tool..asked me to draw the same..drew it..thought chalo one more
tick but thn he suddenly said hey wait u didnt mention to put VIT on 0 and put a big cross..i was
like....grrrrr.....
2. Y is thr an oblique cut provided in the conn rod? ( i said w/o oblique cut whole load will be on the bolts
so by providing oblique cut part load is taken by conn rod serrations) he started laughing and said thts
not write..go and chk the answer in ur institue and again a cross...
F-5
Asked me to write down all previous ques..which i wrote..he read my previous questions and asked wt is
this self synchronous motor?? and how is this different from a normal synchronous motor?? which i told
him..he said would u like to tell me who asked u this ques on self synchronous motor (i was quiet for a
while he said forget it lets conc on the oral)..i guess he's going to ass this self synch thing in his elec
ques bank guys..
1. soft starter and everything about it..got a tick

2.pole change motors and everything with diag..a tick again..
3. what all alternator safeties ( usual stuff..undervoltage,reverse power and overcurrent) and how to test
the same (as we all know)
4. pump room light speciality..(intrinsically safe lighting, explosionproof fittings. double pole type,
interlock with ventillation, two independent power sorce)
5. can u tell me the regulation for all these emergencies like switchboard and emgy gen and all..i said
chap II-1 part D Reg 42(passngr ships) and Reg 43 (cargo ships)...he said i am not interested in part and
all just tell me wich chapter and series..i said ii-1..he said r u sure..i think it should ne II-2..i said no sir
II-1 only i am sure..He said thn wts II-2 ( i said thts for fire extinguishing,detection and all tht) said good
and put a tick..
He said I'll give u F-5 for sure but u are borderline for F-3 and tht i would leave on the surveyor's
descretion so u wait outside and let me discuss with him and he'll declare the results..made me wait till 5
pm (oral got over at 2:30pm) thn finally Mr dutta called me and started giving me his jazz that for 2E
level u need to be master of ER and tht safety is a very imp aspect of ur job and all and i want u to be a
very gud 2E AND know ur safety well (backchodi) so u r passed in F-5 but plz Repeat 3 and 4b..so tht
was it..guess luck as usual didnt favout me but something is better than nothing in MMD..so left with 2
more..gud luck to my all who appear henceforth..
Special thanks to my batchmate SUBODH SINGH and DEEPAK SHORI and PETER for clearing my doubts
Oral on 3 September 2012
1 st attempt at DGS
By Internal Banerjee & External Pakrashi
I was last person remaining for oral
My oral started at 6 pm and ended by7:15pm
Then I got stuck in local train becoz of rain
Anyways he started which institute u hv done Ur presea preparatory courses

Wat type of ship I told reefer n oil chem tankers
Engine u worked I told Mitsubishi in reefer sulzer and MAN&BW IN oil chem
Reversing in MAN-BW
I Drawn cam and folower diagram with hyd piston for movement of folower
Then asked hw its is reversed I explained him about folower moment
I told by this firing order changed he didn't accept tat answer from me
Then asked where is follower is connected
Wat type of boiler u have worked boiler pressure.

In smoke tube boiler hw. Boiler furnace is connected to tube platings I was not knowing tat
Draw a hatch cover of bulk carrier

Material of hatch cover packing. Rubber foam
Hw cleats r locked on hatch cover to maintain water tightness
Draw diagram of mechanical cleats I didn't draw it properly.
Types of lubrication in main engine

I told hydrodynamic lubrication for main bearings n boundary lubrication for crosshead bearings
Hw boundary lubrication is done in crosshead I told by oil film on contact surface
Wat prevent the oil film from breaking
Draw brushless alternator

Explain working of alternator
Hw avr is excited I explain him as mention in Mc Gorge
Wat Electrical checks r done in alternator I explained him any checking diodes,rectifiers ,exciter, windings
of rotor,insulation resistance, contacts .....
Wat is commutator where it is used

I told use in dc motors
Converts ac into dc
Draw diagram of commutator on a shaft I was not sure about diagram
Wat is self synchronous motor

I was not able to give him satisfactory answer
ISM WHICH SOLAS CHAPTER

Date come into force
Latest amendments
Wat type of vessel applicable
Last amendment was done in year 2010
ISPS CODE
Which solas chapter its chapter 11
Wat is ship security plan I explain him any plan
Wat is DOS document of security wat is there in that certificate I explain him any details of certificate
roughly
Then asked me is it necessary to share it to all ports or we cannot share it to ports
I told yes master shares the information to p
ort prior berthing of vessel.
Stautory certificate onboard ship

IOPP certificate wat is mention in that certificate
I told him about all engine rooms tanks n about incinerators n ows he was asking what else
In tankers wat else tanks r mention I told about slope tanks
He was asking more I was not knowing
How antifouling paint is coated on ship hull

I told primer, binder, anti fouling paint
Wat about surface preparations
I told hose down hull with fresh water as soon as we enter into drydock
Check status of hull n marine growth remove all marine growth
Then sand ballast the hull
He asked me what standard of sand ballasting is done
I was not knowing that
How key is fitted on propeller

Wat is taper ratio of propeller shaft
Hw is key shaped I told him its a boat shaped structure
What can be done if there is crack near keyway
I told we can grind surface h
That's all for de daye was satisfied but ask me wat is limit of grinding he want formula wit respect to
diameter of shaft
Types of seal used in stern tube

I told him white metal ,lignum vitate
He wants more like some poly tuner some stuff he told but cant recollect
Types of steel
Wat type of steel is sheer strakes made up off I was not knowing
High tensile steel
He told as I can clear my exams but for morals I need to be more polish u hve given me 50% answer but
I need atleast 65% to pass u.
Next time I will get all four get latest informationform internet
Result. Washout...
4th Sept 12
DG Shipping
EXT.Mr Pakrashi
4b
1)What is thick shell n thin shell bearing. How is The brg supported. How bedding is carried out why
where. I explained every thing nip crush spread. Asked how brgs are locked from slipping. I drawn a slot
n explained. Finally he is satisfied got Tick.
2)How is the thrust brg supported. How it transmits. Cudnt draw the exact. Explained thrust pads n collar
arrangement but un satisfied.
3)Wat r types of conn rod. Wat if serrations are wornd out. Wat effect it vill have.some wat satisfied.
4)Different methods of supercharging. I said gas driven,then he told me compressed air. Want s more.
Then I made some effort stating some more duplicate means. Didn't said any thing.
Function 3
1)How to carry out external hull survey of ship after completing n before flooding in DD. I explained but
wants to know exactly how u check that ur anodes r properly attached. So nothin.
2) Supplement of IOPP, some specific qustn about ISM he askd I had no idea. Askd some thing specific in
ISPS also.
3)Wat is dual class ships. Fullform of IACS. Both I told. Askd things done by IACS. I tried but he said be
specific.
4)Statutaory certificates to be checkd as 2nd engineer. Wants to hear all the parts in ORB-2. I said but
missd some in ORB. So x
Function 5
1)Where is self synchronus motor used. Said all those gyro,Etc n power factor funda. Said no
2)Wat all checks u do in shore supply. Was very happy to hear this qustn. Then he askd me wat if the
shore supply frequency is less. I said cannot accept. He said can. I said motor will run hot n winding loss
n all. Said no. Want to know wat shore supply people will do to change frequency. I said the formula says
that is mechanical, tell me how to correct the frequency. X
3)Where is Echo sounder fitted. How it works. Wat is there in side and the most important thing he wants
to know the Pizo electric principle. 4) I forgot.
Function 6
1) How is the stern tube fitted. How n where lip seals are rested. Lip seal material.
Rest whenever I recollect I vill post.
Then he askd to wait out side. I was expecting 4B.then he called said repeat all. Its a wash out.
06/09/12
DG Shipping
EXT: MR. PAKRASI
Function 4b:
1) What is the difference between a supercharging and turbocharging? Besides exhaust gas driven
turbochargers how can you mechanically charge air?
2) What useful information does mean piston speed give?
3) How does a rotary exhaust valve work? What are the advantages and disadvantages of rotary exhaust
valve over normal poppet valves? Compare the two and tell me why rotary is not used now?
4) What kind of hatch cover was on ur ship? Method of sealing? Draw cleats?
Function 3:
1) What is MLC? What is its purpose? When was it formed?Which ships are entitled to get mlc certificate?
2) What is CSR?
3) Which all statutory certificates will u check as a second engineer?
Function 5:
1) Explain AVR? Draw the diagram?
2) What is commutator? Draw diagram? What is the material the segments? Draw half wave rectifier?
3) Shore supply cable checks before? Can we use 380 V 50 Hz? What will happen if we use? What is the
method of using?
4) What is self synchronous motor? Where is it used?
Function 6:
1) What type of boiler? What is the shape of the furnace?How is the furnace attached to the boiler shell?
How can we clean the space around o gee ring? What is the material of the furnace? Draw diagram of
how furnace is contructed?
2) What kind of anchor did u have onboard? Where is crown fitted? How to measure the clearance of
crown? Length of the shackle on both sides?
3) Types of steel used for manufacturing the ship? Where is high tensile steel used? What are the
advantages and disadvantage of high tensile steel?
4) self polishing paints? Draw a layer and explain?
One more question in fun 3...i cant remember it...Was not well prepared but had answered almost
everything in electrical but still result ....WASHOUT..
06/08/12 DGS
ext Mr Trassi
INT Datta
started with all ships u have done
2 roro n 2 cointainers
r u aware i can ask u of any ship
yes sir
Fn 3
hazards of chemical tanker(main)
just 2 days b4 the same qust was asked to one of my friend he gave the ans as health and fire etc but
trassi didnt accepted
so i was aware so i started my answer with bio degradation,bio accumalation etc
trassi interuted me saying that these all r sub hazard i want main hazard. I was ammused
than i told him health,fire ,toxicity,reactivity n electro static discharge
by the way the other hazards r bio degradation,bio accumalation,acute toxicity,chronic toxity tell all these
to trassi god knows what he accepts but he accepted my ans 1st qst tick
2. air lock system
drew the diagram as per atul patil notes
guys draw a supply fan in the air lock space n in motor space and exhaust fan in the compressor room n
at the down side one more door for direct entry in to the compressor room
becoz if u dont draw these things he ask u how +ve pressure is maintained in air lock space so the ans is
that it is mechanically supplied with a fan n n if both the air lock door is opened together audio visual
alarm n motor will trip
A big tick 4m trassi
3.types of floor
solid floor,bracket floor n water tight floor
draw bracket floor
drew the same
tick
4.diff between ibc n bch code
was not able to satisfy him and i was also not knowing this
cross
Fn 4b
1.stroke to bore ratio of all ur engine
2.what is breaking in and running in
explained him as per general notes
cross qst which is carried out first breaking in or running in
i told breaking in trassi told no its running in
i again told its breaking in
than came the turning pint qst 4m where have u done ur prepatory course
the big Cursed answer LBS
than he told me go n ask ur prof abt this who teaches u this function but than too tick
3.y n obligue cut in connecting rod of 4 stroke engine
was not able to fully satisfy him i told him tat if it is straight than while removing the piston it will b
obstructed by the liner big cross
Fn 5
1.esb safeties solas which chapter which section
solas chap 2 section 1 tick
2.mcb safety(main ckt breaker)
told him under voltage,reverse pwr,short ckt trip
didnt accepted but this ans is right
3.types of fuses
HRC,catridge interupted if i'll give u n spare HRU fuse how will u check its working fine
couldn't answer
Fn6
1.Smc bearing removal procedure
told him word by word with all drawngs to explain him
cross qst which side do u remove
port side y nip on port side big tick
2.sdr v/v o'haul
told him but was not satisfied as i was fumbling in between
3.in which country ur last ship was made
japan ok
have u heard abt JIS Standard
yes sir
4 ur refrence to order spare parts like pipes which book they have supplied
i told impa book he told ur company is very kanjoos this book is very cheap that y they r supplying this
book
i told so sir what can we do we have to refer that only
than he asked any other book u remember i told me EESA book
big smile on trassi's face good
have u heard abt sch 40 pipe yes sir what's the pr.
told him 10bar(as per previous post)
matl. told low carbon steel god knows abt this ans becoz low carbon steel 1st came to my mind
4.bilge p/p not taking suction 4m aft bilge tk
told him fiter may b choked
trassi told ur oiler is well experienced to clean the filter n than inform u
than i told him that thr may b a hole in the pipe
how ill u come to know whr is the hole
told him that bilge p/p is equipped with sea wtr line so opn the sw n fill the line wtr will come out 4m the
hole
than trassi told me u r making a mistake as a 2nd engg
than i realised that tha sw v/v is a non return v/v than i told him tahat we have to remave the v/v first n
than flood the line
told me to wait outside
Datta called n told repeat all
I was shocked bcoz tarssi was very haapy with my ans
i enquired with trassi sir he told me i m satisfied with ur ans but not fully satisfied i know u can do much
better than this
No further explanation
But than too guys it was a very good 1st outing for me
it couldn't have been possible without vikram sridhar,subodh sing,praveen tanneer n sajjan shetty
thank u guys
best of luck to all
DGS 10th sept
3rd attempt ( postponed from 28th aug to 7th sept to 10th sept)
internal Mr Sukumaran , External Mr Jain

only mr jain took orals
fn3
previous failing question .. I said i failed because i did not know the latest amendments .
1.)he asked to state the amendments .. i started chapter wise from solas ... stoped me mid way said he
was satisfied that i had studied and knew.
2.) Bulk carrier X section... he wanted tank locations, girders, type of framing, coamings , attachment of
coamings ( half beams ?? ) speciality of inner shell
3.) duct keel structure, stiffening, fittings, ventilation , lighting , how is traveling arrangement.
4.) Corrugated Bulkhead, shedder plate, draw ..
5.) life boat types, what do you check in lifeboat (enclosed)
6.) B.W. exchange- types , why done , requirement ,
7.) BOD ..?
8.) sewage plant ( what type ) lot of cross questions
fn 4b
1.) rta fuel p/p

2.) spark erosion
3.)sulzer rla scavenging , piston, liner X-section, type of scavenging , valve arrangement
4 scavenge fire ( what to do how it happens how to avoid, what to check)
5. & 6.)c/case explosion ( same points as above , OMD, what principle it works on, draw, some x
question, rgulation ans stuff)
7.) x section of aux engine . piston lubrication , big end gudgen pin... how oil flows in gudgenpin
8.) boiler type, treatment, safeties, how to check.
fn 6
1.) wear ring repair .. what do you do , how do you know

2.) purifier o'flow, possible causes , remedies
3.)difference in lo for prov refer and ME c/c
4.) what is oil miscibility, why desired
5) TEV crosssection , working, wh equalizers reqd. degree of superheat , how to adjust, whats the real
arrangement look like ( have you seen)...
6.)safety on O2 & c2h2 bottles
7.) meggar , what is it, why used how to use , types, draw. typical values
8.)l.o analysis for st oil... what to look for in tests and reports, how to interpret , actions
Result cleared all
internal : banarjee
external : pakrasi
he asked me which functions r u appearing for
i said 4b & 6
he asked me which engine i have worked on ..i said man 6s60 mcc
he stated with func4
1] in rta engine how do transmission take place
does rta engine have moment compensator
2] about detuners as it is on sulzer and moment compensator on b&w so got into details
3] struts in rta ? how does it work and what checks do you carry out
4] rta liner material? two special things on rta liner
5] define overlap .. and calculate for 2-stroke engine what r min units
then he asked me to calculate for 4 cyl. 2-stroke engine
fun 6
1]liner wear its rate for wear and when to change liner
2]stern tube arrangement in details got deep in to chrome liner? why do we use that not other
material...if there is wear down then what adjustments to do?
3] paint scheme in detail
4] types of method for surface preparation.. i told him about sand and shot blasting he wanted more and
then he asked about pickling ..which i knew then he told me that u r missing one which i could not
remember...he told about hydroblasting i told him i dont have any info.. but if he allow me i can fing out
5] he went in to safety asked me about dual class
6] who will issue statuary certificate and other cerficates in dual class
7] summer load line in detail with dia.
8] freeboard and explin in detail... he asked me what is that line we call in freeboard which ends at upper
continous deck which i was not able to answer
after orals he told me that he is not satisfied with fun6 and asked me to find answer for hydroblasting ,
purpose and details of chrome liner... i found some data on net and went to him and explained and then
he told those golden words
GO U R PASSED.....
26.09.12 -3rd attempt DGS ,

internal:dutta
external:some new guy i asked him his name he refused to answer
fn 3
#wt kind of rudder on ur ship draw? how is the rudder supported . i drew the rudder
frm dj iyres and the upper and lower bearing arrangement from DA
Taylor.explaining the stainless steel bushes .
#explain the rapson slide mechanism i drew wat i could remember frm saiftole.
draw the section of a bluk carrier . then he asked me to draw hatch cover locking
mechanism.
#wat are statutory certificates ....i started saying alll he said no ther r onli 5 ill giv u
one more chance.then i remembered in premwell for tat seq answer ther r onli 5
certificates mentioned i said tat and it was rt.
#draw a corrugated and watertight bulkhead.
#wat all things r carried in a lifeboat.he was just waiting to hear sart.
#ism all dates and he asked about interim smc and doc and wen its issued.
fn 4b
#draw cross section of smc engine....i drew wat i could remember.
#wat do u check in tie rods..can you inspect it from the crank case.
#draw smc fuel pump and explain vit.
#smc main bearing removal.
#thermostatic expansion valve draw
#difference in properties between aux engine lube oil and refrigeration lub oil.
#draw a m/e engine piston explaining all parts how cooling occurs in detail and
explain the testing here he wanted to here about how many orings and how to pr
test .
#aux engine lub oil and how it is supplied to the piston.
#checks to do after decarb of aux engine ...here he wanted to hear after decarb how
we manually reduce the speed using governor and then start at slow speed.
fn 5
#wat kind of crane on last ship explain.i told him mitsubishi and tat it had 2 dc
motors for slewing and heaving and 1 ac motor for luffing.
#expalin all the crane safeties.
#wats the difference between synchronous and induction motors.
#were r synchronous motors used.
fn 6
# explain working of swash plate pump drw. i rougly drew a sketch
#how many pistons it has i said i dont know ok is it odd or even i said odd it was
correct luckly
#does the piston of a swash plate pump has piston rings ...i said no it dosent hav its
just a close fit like a plunger and barrel because the pressure is high.
#explain ultrasonic hull tesing .
#explain ph values wat is acidic alcaline and basic.
#how will you start a boiler from cold.
#wat are the safeties and trips in bolier.
tats it i tot will get one as he did nt tell me any ting and he left tellin me mrdutta
will declare the results.
result: done wit class 2 thanks a lot for all the help guys and special thanks to
saish,glenn,pranav and the guys frm lbs
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Savio Braganza vikram the smc cross section i drew frm the one i saw on aranha pg 272 but a much much simpler one he
doesnt want very intricate details.
Savio Braganza ujjwal sahu: reefer comp oil .should hav high flash point,non reactive with refrigerant,easily seperable
from refrigerant,should not react with the seal material,the pour piont lower thanmin temp of operating cycle.
WILL ANYBODY HELP ME OUT WITH 1)100% REDUNDANCY 2)SAFEMATIC 3)SINGLE

FAILURE CONCEPT.....IM GETTING DIFFERENT VERSION ANSWERS....
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Naveen Raj 1)SINGLE FAILURE CONCEPT-DUPLICATION OF MOTORS,PUMPS,HEADERS,PIPING ETC...IF

ONE SYSTEM FAILS THE SECOND SHOULD REGAIN WITHIN 45SEC..THE POWER MAY BE 100% CAPACITY
OR LESS..2)100% REDUNDANCY-DUPLICATION OF PUMPS,HEADERS,PIPING,TANKS,MOTORS ETC...IF ONE
SYSTEM FAILS THE OTHER SHOULD TAKE OVER SAME AS SINGLE FAILURE CONCEPT BUT IT SHOULD GIVE
100% POWER.........IF ANYBODY HAS TO ADD SOMETHING...DO EXPLAIN SAFEMATIC
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Man Mohan As far as I understand it, safematic is other word for single failure concept.
guys , todays s qs & am also trying to write the ans ,,

pls others also give ans as well so tht we all get good idea
cleared
trasi & dutta , fn3 fn3 , & class 2 , finally !! qualified to be 1st engg ,
all of u , all the best , may luck be with u all !!
ig alarms , trips , values

igg alarms , trips , values
in igg do mention fuel low pr , flame fail , jacket low flow , scrubber low flow , jacket
high etc
oil tanker double hull cross section , draw from dj eyres
when requirement for double hull tankers came , phase out periods with dates , see
from gautam sen
why no deck seal in gas ships , what safeties then
then little abt gas ships
what is mrcc , maritime response coordination centre , they r based in uk &
singapore , they work 24 by 7 for coordinating maritime distress , salvage etc
all amendments of marpol , solas , ism , isps , in isps , mention dates july 2004 as
the date whr requirement for SIN , AIS , SSAS , CSR came
how many times ISM amended , 1998 , then 2002 when requirement of ISM also
came for floating platforms & MODU , then 2010
which countries ratified latest MLC 2006 , phillipines & russia , so that will be in
force from aug 20 2013
camber , use , sheer , tumblehome , side scuttles , refer reeds chpter 1
duties of 1st engg in detail
statuary certificates , only names , certificates under HSSC ( harmonised survey )
why wider carribean region took so long to become special area , because it was not
having reception facilities
types of gas carrier , A , B , C ,
types of chem tankers , 1,2,3
why veg oil now in category Y , & has to be carried in type 2 chemical ship , earlier it
used to be carried in deep tanks on a dry or general ship , this is because it degrades
with time & causes microbe generation & also spoils coatings , but chem tanker has
special coatings of zinc silicate & epoxy etc so no damage done
conditions to satisfy before drydocking : adequate initial GM , vessel on centreline ,
& just before sitting small aft trim , he asked to explain alll the 3 points in detail
duties of 1st engg
CAS , ESP little he asked , like why they came & all , what is CAP
how much chlorine to be in treated sewage , 50 ppm
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date 14/12/2012, dg shipping

some more questions were there, post it later on...

Date: 13/12/12, Place: OLD MMD, Internal: Bhosle, External: Tarassi

Result- Cleared all 4.

funct 5 only by Pakrassi sir.

10 dec banerjee and badwal

1. how electricity is generated.

1. type of boiler u know.

fn 3,4b(motor) and 6 ( all hotch potch)

1. type of propeller on ur ship.

11th nov internal Datta, External pakrasi

ORALS TAKEN BY PAKRASSI ALONE (INTERNAL GADKAR)

6.12.12 function 6 pakrasi int dutta

Wrote down 7-8 questions.

1) Why do we specify or say 85% MCR ? ( Why not 100 % MCR? )

He asked " Are you referring to propeller curve ?"

I said " No sir, I am referring a curve (point ii) from my notes.

2) What is the fuel standard?

3) What is difference between MCC and MEB engines?

4) What is Breaking in and running in ?

He then asked " So is running in done before breaking in?"

He then said to wait outside .

Thank you everyone.

Thank you everyone for their contribution. All the best.

Wil post later

Write down previous questions......

1:Diff between MCC and MEB?

2:As per 8217:values of CCR/CCAI? significance of each?

3:Difference between Running IN and BREAKING IN??

4: Why Pmax -Pcomp < 35 bar?

ans :piston ring breakage,high thermal loads,high wear of liner.etc,

1:Chain tightening procedure?checks after retightening?

3.Main air Compressor HP stage v/v testing in front of surveyor?

4:Cross blowdown of Gauge glass?

REsult:Pass all.Cleared class 2.

sorry for late posting

draw thrust block n clearances

shore cable connection on board terminal checks u will do n dia.

bilge pump gearing arrangement

sm more questions were there will post it later

sorry for late posting as was out of city...

result passed....done wid class 2....thank u all....n keep posting

datta was not present on that day. so called on 4th.

draw thrust block n clearances

shore cable connection on board terminal checks u will do n dia.

bilge pump gearing arrangement

sm more questions were there will post it later

i came back n found out the ans to question 4 n 5 n found out

Guys plz Discuss the Following:

2) What r t he dry dock checks before flooding the dry doc??

orals on 27th at dgs with banerjee and great pakrassi

anyway still hope continues.

all the best for next.

8 Nov 2012, 2nd attempt Mr Trassi Again

prevention of fire in cargo tanks in Tankers

Asked me about Rta Fuel Pump timing

Bunker Line pressure testing

Purifier Vibrations- causes and why we apply brake during stopping

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Hotaviya Rao well done bro..

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