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AR15/M16 Magazine FAQ

by James Wesley Rawles

Revised April 12, 1999

Editors Note : Some additions to the tables and text in this FAQ have been
made... These additions are in RED, and do not reflect information yet included
in the original FAQ by Mr. Rawles - any inaccuracies are the responsibility of
Biggerhammer.net and not Mr. Rawles. In addition the images were added to
help better illustrate the magazines being discussed - Editor

In response to repeated requests from rec.guns readers, I'm posting a list of the
various magazines available on the civilian market for Colt AR-15s, various AR-15 .
223 clones, and Colt Sporters. It lists the different varieties, identifying markings,
type of finish, and approximate values.

Note: This updated FAQ includes new information on 7.62 x 39 magazines provided
by Paul McMenamin, floorplate marking/date information provided by the Colt
Firearms Historical Office, and a new section on refinishinhg worn magazines.

Here they are (I may miss a few...)

(All of the following are made of aluminum alloy and gray anodized, unless otherwise
noted.)

20 Round Capacity Magazines:

Description Value Picture


Original Armalite "waffle-sided." Similar in design to the AR-
$90+ X1
10 magazine. Grey. Super scarce. Pre-1963 production.
Armalite transitional magazine that features a new style
body (no waffles - just vertical ribbing), with an Armalite
floorplate. The floorplates have been updated to include the X2
bend on the end, that is standard with later model
magazines.
Early Air Force contract 20 round. Circa 1963-1968. Earliest
had bright alloy followers, later manufacture had dull
$25+ X3
followers. Scarce. Marked "Colt Pt. Mfg. Co. Inc." w/prancing
pony and "CAL. .223" on floorplate.
Army and late Air Force contract 20 round. Circa 1969 to
1971. Dull alloy followers. Marked Colt Firearm Division"
$15 to $25
w/pony and "5.56 MM" on floorplate. I usually have these in
stock.
Army and late Air Force contract 20 round. Circa 1966 to $12 to $20 X4
1971. Dull alloy followers. Most marked Cony w/pony. A few
are marked Simmonds or Adventureline on floorplate.
(Actually these are more scarce than Colt made 20s, but few
collectors realize it, and oddly they pay more for Colts!) I
usually have these in stock. (Image Courtesy David Albert)
Colt commercial 20 round. Circa 1980 to 1989. Black plastic
$20+
followers. Marked Colt w/pony on floorplate.
Colt law enforcement sales 20 round. Circa 1995 to present.
(Not sold on the Civilian market. Bodies are date stamped to
$12
indicate that they are of "post ban" manufacture.) Black
LEO
plastic followers. Marked "Colts Mfg. Co." and "CAL. 5.56MM"
w/pony on floorplate.
Colt Blank magazine with a spacer to compensate for lack of
X5
slug

X1 / X2

Armalite Waffle AR-15 Mags

Original Armalite "waffle-sided." Similar in


design to the AR-10 magazine. Grey. Super
scarce. Pre-1963 production.

(Above) Stoner magazine pouches with early Armalite


waffle magazines. Pictured to the right is a colt blank
firing magazines
(Top) Follower. It is unknown what the S stands for
(Bottom) Armalite waffle magazine floorplate. (Below)
Closeup view of the left and right hand sides of the
waffle magazine. Images Courtesy Buddy Hinton

(Below) A transitional 20rd magazine that features the typical body style -
i.e. not waffled, but also has a later model Armalite floorplate that is
correct for the new body style. Image Courtesy Tom Kozik

X3

X4

X5
Colt Magazines for Blank Firing

(Above) Right side view of a Colt magazine


designed for firing of blanks (Below) Follower
on these mags has been reduced in size and a
spacer added in to help with the feeding of the
shortened blank rounds. Images Courtesy
Buddy Hinton

(Above) Floorplate - shows no real variation from


other Colt units. Image Courtesy Buddy Hinton

Gun Show tip: As you walk around gun shows, look for used 20s and sort through
looking for shiny alloy followers. These are the early contract magazines, and are
worth a premium price. However, most dealers don't realize the significance, and will
sell you these magazines at the same price that they sell the typical later vintage
used 20s.

Note: The general rule is that pre-1969 20 round Colt-made magazines are marked
""CAL. .223" and that 1969 and later production 20s are marked "CAL. 5.56MM"

5 Round Capacity Magazines:

Description Value Picture


Colt commercial 5 round. (20 round body, but blocked to 5
round capacity.) Black plastic followers. Marked Colt w/pony
$25+
and "CAL. 5.56MM" on floorplate. Early style (no floorplate
rivet.) Circa 1989 to around 1991.
Colt commercial 5 round. . (20 round body, but blocked to 5
round capacity.) Black plastic followers. Marked Colt w/pony
$20+
and "CAL. 5.56MM" on floorplate. Later style (riveted
floorplate but rivet can be drilled out.) Circa 1991 to 1994.
Colt commercial 5 round. Marked Colt. (the latest
bastardized style--permanently blocked) Circa late 1994 to
$10 to $15
present Sometimes these can be found in garbage cans at
rifle ranges along with other refuse.

30 Round Capacity Magazines:

Description Value Picture


Colt early G.I. contract 30 round. Green plastic followers.
Marked Colt w/pony and "CAL. .223" on floorplate. Circa $30+ X6
1968 to 1969.
Colt late G.I. contract 30 round. Black plastic followers.
Marked Colt w/pony and "CAL. 5.56mm" on floorplate. Circa
1970 to present. Colt hasn't had a military contract in many
$20+ X7
years. Most of these are sold to police departments. A few
pre-ban ones make it out to the civilian market through
police supply houses.
G.I. contract 30 round. Black or green plastic followers. $12 to $30 X8
These are the most common M16 magazines on the surplus
market. (Countless millions made.) Circa 1975 to 1994.
Marked with contractor's name and usually location (city) on
floorplate. Anodized finish. Contractors included:
Adventureline, Parsons Precision Products, Labelle
Industries, Sanchez (DSI), Center Industries, Okay
Industries, Cooper Industries, FN, and a few others. Starting
around 1992, some of the contractors began using soft
green plastic followers. (Not to be confused with the shiny
hard green plastic followers used on the earliest Colt-made
30 rounders.) Military contract 30s are fairly easy to find at
gun shows.
Colt law enforcement sales 30 round. Circa 1995 to present.
(Not sold on the civilian market. Bodies are date stamped to
$11
indicate that they are of "post ban" manufacture.) Black
LEO
plastic followers. Marked "Colts Mfg. Co." and "CAL. 5.56"
w/pony on floorplate.
G.I. contract 30 round. Black plastic followers. Teflon finish.
This is the latest military specification, which started only in
June, 1994). Functionally, these are the best of the breed,
because they have a slick, durable Teflon coat inside and
out. Very few of these magazines made it onto the civilian
market before the ban started on Sept. 13, 1994. All were
made by Labelle Industries. They made batches for the
civilian market in both grey and black Teflon. Most of these
were marked: Cal. 5.56mm, a part number, and Made in $30+ X9
U.S.A. (Note that Bushmaster/Quality Parts had Labelle
make up a batch for them with BFI floorplates. Labelle did
the same for Defense Procurement Management Service
(DPMS). Military production pre-Sept 13, 1994 are not date
stamped. Post Sept. 13, 1994 production are date stamped
an a no-no for U.S. civilians to possess. I sold out long ago,
but I've heard that Quality Parts/Bushmaster (BFI) still has
some.
Israeli Orlite magazines. Black plastic. The later type (circa
1992 to 1994) are the ones to buy. This type has a weave of
metal reinforcement in the top one inch of the body. These $15
work well with most AR-15s. These usually come with plastic
dust caps.
Thermold (Canadian) magazines. Black plastic with no
reinforcing. These work just as well as Orlites, but are a little
more flimsy. They also use a lower melting-point plastic than
the Orlite. (The Canadian soldiers jokingly refer to them as $12 to $18 X 10
"Thermelts", because the feed lips melt if you get a M16
really hot (usually from firing blanks with a blank firing
device.)
Another exception to the no after-market rule: Sterling of
England produced AR-180/AR-15 20, 30, and 40 round
magazines. Some were made in alloy, and some were steel.
They have magazine catch notches on both sides a small one
for the AR-180, and a large one for the AR-15. They work
well in both guns.) They are the only 40 round magazines of
any type that I've ever encountered that work well. Sterling $20 to $50 X 11
also produced considerable quantities of 20 and 30 round
magazines, some of which are only notched for AR-180s, but
most are also notched to also fit AR-15s. Most of the Sterling
magazines are alloy, but some are steel. They are scarce but
can occasionally be found at gun shows. (Photo Courtesy
Buddy Hinton)

X6

1968 - 1969 Colt 30rd Images

Colt early G.I. contract 30 round. Green plastic


followers. Marked Colt w/pony and "CAL. .223"
on floorplate. Circa 1968 to 1969.

Colt 1968-1969 30rd magazines, with Stoner 63


magazine pouches to the left. Image Courtesy
Buddy Hinton
(Top) What must have been a transitional model floorplate,
market with the 5.56 caliber designation. (Bottom) Dark
emerald green follower from same type magazine. (Below)
Closeup of follower showing the emerald green of the late
60's followers. Images Courtesy Buddy Hinton

(Top) Early floorplate featuring the .223 caliber designation.


Image Courtesy Rambo (Bottom) Closeup of later model follower
that desiginated 5.56 Nato - these floorplates can also be found on
the early green follower mags. Image Courtesy Buddy Hinton
Number above represents the internal
part number as utilized by Colt. Image
Courtesy Buddy Hinton

X7
Colt 80s and 90s Production

(Top) Later model Colt floorplate - note retainer on right side. Image
Courtesy Rambo (Bottom) 1980s production - note use of Colt's
Firearms Division. Image Courtesy Buddy Hinton (Below) Date code
that appeared in the 1990s as part of the 1994 crime bill - hi-capacity
magazines produced before September 13, 1994 are legal for civilian
ownership

X8 / X9
Manufacturer Comments CAGE Code Picture
longer lasting moly than UI or Okay (Image
Adventureline X 81
Courtesy David Albert)
Armalite Eagle Arms / Armalite commercial production.
X 82
(Commercial) (Image Courtesy Boderman's Sports)
Bushmaster Made by Labelle for Bushmaster X 83
Center Bought out Parsons (Image Courtesy Jay Bell X 84
6P199
Industries and David Albert) X 85
Colt Predominatly made by UI, which is Okay. X 86
Army had to fire because they mixed rejects
and passes and shipped both. If a Cooper
passes inspection it can be a well made in
Cooper spec mag, however several sources say to 30389 X 87
avoid the mags with 3 welds on the back.
Along with Labelle, Cooper had the hardest
and smoothest moly. (Image Courtesy Sam)
DPMS Made by Labelle for DPMS. X 88
Eagle Arms / Armalite commercial production.
Eagle X 89
(Image Courtesy Boderman's Sports)
LEO Magazines (Image Courtesy Boderman's X 810
Sports) X 811
Current production for US military (Image
FN 3S679 X 812
Courtesy Buddy Hinton)
30rd mags have anti-tilt followers, however
Thermolds X 813
Orlites don't.
Along with Cooper had the hardest and
smoothest moly. Produced magazines for
Labelle 90435 X 814
Bushmaster. (Image Courtesy Boderman's
Sports)
Made all UI/Simmond's Industries, but now
produce under their own name. They are the X 815
Okay 33710
longest running manufacturer. (Image X 816
Courtesy Jay Bell and David Albert)
Lacks the anti-tilt followers of the Thermold,
Orlites
more resistant to heat that Thermolds.
Bought out Adventureline, later bought out by
Parsons Center Industries (Image Courtesy David 31907 X 817
Albert)
For some reason, never discovered by Army,
Sanchez had more problems with full auto
Sanchez than other makers. Green followers cured X 818
this. Sanchez is no longer in business. (Image
Courtesy Jay Bell)
Simmonds (Image Courtesy Buddy Hinton) X 819
X81

X82

X83 / X88

DPMS and Bushmaster by Labelle


(Above) Full shot of DPMS 30rd magazine
as produced by Labelle. These were
produced for DPMS by Labelle. (Below)
DPMS floorplate shot. (Bottom)
Bushmaster floorplate. Images courtesy
of Psywar

X84
X85

X86

X87

X89
X810

X811

X812

X813
X814

X815

X816

X817
X818

X819

COOPER INDUSTRIES INC


OKAY INDUSTRIES INC
1204 VIA ROMA
200 ELLIS ST PO Box 2470
COLTON, CA 92324
NEW BRITAIN, CT 06051-2470
CAGE CODE: 30389
CAGE CODE: 33710
Voice Telephone: 909-420-0201
Voice Telephone: 860-225-8707
FAX Telephone: 909-420-0202
County: HARTFORD
County: SAN BERNARDINO
Date CAGE Code Established: 11/04/1974
Date CAGE Code Established: 11/04/1974
Last Updated: 04/06/1998
Last Updated: 08/13/1996
FN MFG INC
CENTER INDUSTRIES CORP
797 CLEMSON RD
2505 S CUSTER
COLUMBIA, SC 29224
WICHITA, KS 67217-0364
CAGE CODE: 3S679
CAGE CODE: 6P199
Voice Telephone: 803-736-0522
Voice Telephone: 316-942-8255
FAX Telephone: 803-736-4169
County: SEDGWICK
County: RICHLAND
Date CAGE Code Established: 03/06/1978
Date CAGE Code Established: 10/13/1979
Last Updated: 04/25/1998
Last Updated: 09/19/1997
LABELLE INDUSTRIES INC PARSONS PRECISION PRODUCTS INC
QUEST TECHNOLOGIES DIV
1060 CORPORATE CTR DR OCONOMOWOC, 3333 MAIN ST
WI 53066 PARSONS, KS 67357
CAGE CODE: 90435 CAGE CODE: 31907
Voice Telephone: 414-567-9101 Voice Telephone: 316-421-3400
County: WAUKESHA County: LABETTE
Date CAGE Code Established: 11/04/1974 Date CAGE Code Established: 11/04/1974
Last Updated: 10/28/1998

X10

Thermold

Thermold (Canadian) magazines. Black plastic


with no reinforcing. These work just as well as
Orlites, but are a little more flimsy. They also
use a lower melting-point plastic than the Orlite.
(The Canadian soldiers jokingly refer to them as
"Thermelts", because the feed lips melt if you
get a M16 really hot (usually from firing blanks
with a blank firing device.)

Side view of Thermold


Manufacturer and date code (1991)

(Above) 20rd Master Molder magazine, which is


manufactured by Thermold. (Below) Floorplate of the 20rd
Master Molder magazine. Images Courtesy Psywar.

X11
Note: The general rule is that pre-1970 30 round Colt-made magazines are marked
"CAL. .223" and that 1970 and later production 30s are marked "CAL. 5.56MM"

Gun Show tip: As you walk around gun shows, look for Colt 30 round magazines with
dark green followers. (They are worth at least twice as much as other 30s, even if
made by Colt.)

Some interesting background: There were actually just two sets of U.S. military
contract 30 round magazine tooling, both built by Colt. They wandered around from
contractor to contractor. These contracts were usually "minority or small business
set- asides." Typically what would happen is a small business would get set up with
the tooling, and start to crank out a contract. Then, the contract was so lucrative that
the business no longer qualified as a "small business", the contract was cancelled,
and the tooling got yanked and sent on to the next contractor.

All of the G.I. contract 30s work fine with two exceptions, all Cooper mags and early
production Sanchez with the black followers. This is what the May 1987 issue of PM
Magazine (The Army's Preventative Maintenance magazine) had to say, "The 30-
round magazines made by Cooper Industries don't fit the magazine well, they double
feed and they won't feed the last five rounds when fully loaded." To avoid any
problems, NEVER buy Cooper mags these were recalled for destruction by the
military. The second exception, some early black follower lots of Sanchez (DSI)
production are also said to have feeding problems, however, they were never recalled
like the Cooper mags were. To avoid problems here buy only Sanchez with the green
follower (from the newer production runs) or plan on replacing the black followers
with the green ones, (Thanks to Rambo for the PM information and clarification).

After-market (civilian) manufacture. Most of these are total junk! Don't even bother
with any of these. The steel ones are particularly troublesome.

The only "semi-after-market" magazines worth buying were made by Labelle shortly
before the 9/94 ban and are marked "Defense Procurement Management Service
(DPMS)" or "BFI/Bushmaster." Labelle Industries made these to military specs. but
simply put on different floorplates for sales to the civilian market. Most of these are
gray or black Teflon coated.

Gun Show tip: As you walk around gun shows, look for used AR-180s for sale. Ask
the sellers if they have any extra magazines available for sale. Fairly often they will
have some Sterling magazines that are also notched for AR-15s. The only problem
will be in convincing the seller to break those magazines out of their intended
"package deal."
On 7.62 x39 AR-15 magazines:

7.62 x 39 magazines for AR-15s tend to be problematic. More and more AR owners
are buying spare 7.62 x 39 uppers for their rifles to take advantage of the low cost of
military surplus (Chinese and Eastern Bloc) ammunition, or as a means to get a more
effective stopper for deer than .223 Remington.

The problem is finding mags that will feed when loaded with more than 5 or 6 rounds.
Neither Colt (for the AR-15) or Ruger (for the Mini-30) ever made any high capacity
magazines for their 7.62x39s, because neither intended those guns for military or law
enforcement sales. (And both being statist/Politically Correct firms in recent years,
neither produced high capacity magazines for the civilian market before the 9/94
ban.)

The Colt 7.62 x 39 rifles and clones can *accept* standard 20 or 30 round G.I.
magazines, but they won't function reliably when loaded with more than 5 or 6
rounds. With its straight magazine well, the AR-15 is not well-suited to the cartridge.
As I'm sure most of you reading this know, an angle builds up to the point where the
7.62 cartridges will jam horribly if you load more than about 9 rounds--regardless of
which magazine you use. The cartridge simply works better in fully-curved
magazines. And with the AR-15Õs straight magazine well, that problem can never be
properly overcome in AR-15s and clones.

Colt-made 7.62 x 39mm magazines differ from standard .223 magazines only in that
they have different followers. The 7.62 x 39mm followers are black plastic and have
Ò7.62mmÓ in white letters printed on the follower. They appear to be made
differently from regular .223 followers. I believe these to be standard alloy M-16
magazine bodies that are assembled with 7.62 followers.

One tip garnered from the net: With the Colt-made 7.62 x 39 magazines, insert the
magazines gently with the bolt closed to keep rounds from flying out the top.

Another problem is that the fat 7.62x39 cartridge tends to bulge out or even split aluminum alloy AR-15
magazines. There is a solution for that particular problem: The best magazines that I can recommend for a
7.62 AR-15 are either STEEL original Sterling-made AR-180 magazines (also notched for AR-15 magazine
catch), or STEEL original Belgian FNC magazines. Then, if possible, replace the followers with Colt 7.62
mm marked followers. Even with these, donÕt load more than 9 cartridges.

Description Value Picture


The MWG company makes 5 or 10-round magazines that are
optimized for the 7.62x39. They are affordable, and
reportedly well made. The jury is still out, however, on their $14.39
reliability. . The 10 round model carries part # M10-
7.62x39. For an illustration, see: http://www.mwgco.com/
Colt and USA Magazines X 12

X12

Variants for the 7.62x39 Colt


(Above) Colt 7.62x39 AR-15 with hybrid USA magazine that is
constructed from a .223 top end, and an AK bottom end.
These magazines are rumored to work well. (Below) Colt
factory 7.62.x39 floorplate Images Courtesy Rambo.

Thanks to Paul McMenamin for his input on 7.62 x 39 magazines.

With all of the aforementioned magazine woes in mind, my advice is to *pass* on


buying Colt AR-15s/Sporters, spare uppers, or AR-15 clones chambered in 7.62 x
39mm. IMHO, if you want a reliable and accurate high capacity semi-auto rifle
chambered in 7.62 x 39mm, buy a Valmet M62

.223 Drum Magazines:

Description Value Picture


The 90 round clear-backed drums made by MWG work $150 X 13
surprisingly well. There are a few of these still available on
the secondary market.
The Beta Company C-Mags (100 round double snail drum)
$650 to
function flawlessly, but do have an annoying rattle when you X 14
$750
walk around.
The Chinese-made AR-15 drums (various capacities) are
absolute garbage and don't feed properly, from what many X 15
customers have told me.
Firepower Plastic AR Drum (Image courtesy Rambo) X 16

X13

X14

X15

Chinese Drum Magazines


(Above) Chinese 120rd drum magazine.
Image Courtesy Rambo. (Below left) Left
and right hand side views of Chinese drum.
(Below right) View of mechanism with back
removed - note slots for cartridges to slide
into. Images Courtesy Jay Bell.
(Below left) Back side view. Note winding mechanism. (Below right) Front view of drum with
grooves for catridges to move around in. Images Courtesy Jay Bell.

X16
Notes on Practical Use:

The 20 round capacity magazines for the AR-15 should never be loaded with more
than 18 rounds. (They have a tendency to jam, otherwise.) The 30s, however, can be
loaded with a full 30 rounds.

Many practical shooters (including AR-15 guru Jim Crews) actually prefer the 20
round magazine, since it allows better prone shooting. Most bench shooters also
prefer 20s, because the 30 is so long that it requires extra sand bagging to keep from
going "high center."

For practical carry, I took a compromise approach, and have my "bad times" web
gear set up to carry both 30s and 20s. (Six spare 30s, Four spare 20s.) In the carbine
itself, I usually have a duplexed pair of 30s (using a spring steel Israeli duplexing
clamp). And for "worst case scenario" home defense, I have a pair of duplexed 40s.
(Those hard-to-find Sterling of England AR-180/AR-15 40 round steel magazines.)

On Magazine Pouches:

The earliest issue pouch for the M16 was simply the M14 O.D. canvas Universal
magazine pouch. It fits two 20s (or three if you squeeze them in.)

The most commonly seen (and current) U.S. military issue magazine pouch is the
olive drab triple 30 round magazine pouch. The strange straps on the sides are
designed to hold hand grenades. (Hey, they could come in handy in that worst-case
Y2K scenario. You never know when you might run across a case of grenades...)

They same style pouch has been made for civilian market sales in black nylon, and
with and/or without the grenade straps.

An earlier (and scarce) nylon pouch was an olive drab quadruple 20 round magazine
pouch. It featured an internal strap designed to be woven between the magazines
with its tab left sticking up. (It acts as a ÒhelperÓ to facilitate getting the first
magazine out of the pouch.)

On Refinishing U.S.G.I. Magazines

One of the least expensive places to buy M16 magazines is at gun shows.
Unfortunately many of the magazines you will find are have well-worn anodized
finish. They function fine, but look horrible. I often have folks contact me to ask about
how they can be re- finished.

Since U.S.G.I. M16 magazine bodies are made of aluminum alloy, they cannot be
blued. That leaves re-anodizing, painting, Teflon coating, or Metacol III. I will address
all four:

Re-anodizing would require that EVERY bit of original finish is removed with fine grit
beadblasting and then solvent dipping. Otherwise they will look blotchy.

Painting can yield varying degrees of success. If your AR has a "tight" magazine well,
it is likely to rub off regular paint. Therefore is best to use a bake-on finish such as
Gun Kote. See: http://members.aol.com/GUNKOTE/index.html/ Phone: 520-883-
8879

Important Note: Make sure that you remove the magazine springs before using any
high temperature process, or you will RUIN the springs' temper!

Teflon coating is a more durable finish, but unfortunately also expensive (around $10
per magazine!) I have done business with Rocky Mountain Arms. They do great
genuine Teflon coating, in several colors. Phone: (303) 678-8522.

Another more expensive but even more durable alternative is Metacol III. It is a
bonded solid-film lubricant. It is offered by Arizona Response Ststems. Phone: (602)
873-1410. Or see their website at: www.arizonaresponsesystems.com

On the U.S. High Capacity Magazine Ban:

The magazine ban passed in September of 1994 banned only the importation and sale
of high capacity magazines that were made after Sept. 13, 1994. To law enforcement
officers conducting searches and arrests, an unmarked magazine is generally
presumed to be "pre- ban." Magazines marked with dates after Sept. 13, 1994 are
considered "post ban". Such magazines may only be possessed by law enforcement
officers and the military. However, FFL holder may also purchase them for inventory
for the purpose of resale to "qualified buyers". (Read: Law enforcement officers.)
Private possession of post ban magazines is a felony. At a recent gun show I found a
dealer selling a case of new-in-wrapper G.I. contract (made by Parsons) magazines
with light green followers. On close inspection , I found that they were stamped 01/99
on the side of the magazine body!!! This dealer had no clue about the law, and had
been selling them to the general public! Needless to say, he was soon set straight.

BTW, if you own a "post ban" firearm manufactured after the Sept. 13, 1994 ban, it is
PERFECTLY LEGAL to own and use *pre-ban* high capacity magazines in it.

James Wesley, Rawles


Clearwater Trading Co.
c/o P.O. Box 642
Penn Valley, Calif. [95946]
voice: (530) 639-1999
e-mail: rawles@usa.net

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