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17 APPEARANCES:
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Stanton Shelby (3/11/19 & 5/6/19 - telephonic)
19 Attorney at Law, Portland, Oregon, of counsel of
Plaintiff;
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Kevin D. Goodrich, Central Point, Oregon, Defendant Pro Se.
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Transcript Prepared by:
23 Carlotta Hall
Court Transcriber
24 Yachats, OR 97498
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1 GENERAL INDEX
12 Plaintiff’s Response..........................34
15 Defendant’s Rebuttal..........................37
16 Certificate Page
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1 can figure out what you’re asking for. You move for Summary
15 summary of the whole. I’m new to this case. This was Judge
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Plaintiff’s Argument 3
3 to brief me.
4 MR. SHELBY: Okay. Okay, so.
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THE COURT: So MERS can no longer assign trustees?
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MR. SHELBY: Well let me - - let me tell you what I
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believe those - - what those cases say. Now I’ve got to them.
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THE COURT: Okay.
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MR. SHELBY: Let me get to my - - let me get to my
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legal spot here, so.
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13 basically that takes those cases, that takes loans like that and
15 and basically kind of closed the door. And Mr. Goodrich had a
3 and therefore the underlying trustee sale was bad and you can’t
4 evict, and that’s what - - and Mr. Goodrich has that cited in
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his, in several of his pleadings.
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Now what, so what we have asked for, is we - - we recognize
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what the Court said in those cases. That the prior assignment,
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the prior Trustee’s Deed, those do need to be rescinded because
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they were not in - - they were not in - - not in accord with the
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law as we determine, as the court determined it to be in
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14 what’s the - - what’s the next option? Our motion is so, our
2 our motion, that is; well I just had it in front of me. That’s
3 Deutsche Bank versus Walmsley, and that is 277 ORAP 690. And
4 what that case stands for is that if the plaintiff in a
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foreclosure action is a holder of a note, then they have a right
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to foreclose, as long as the other claims, as long as the other
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- - as long as the other elements are there.
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In this case our argument is we are the holder of the note.
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It’s basically - - basically the note becomes a negotiable
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instrument. The actual loan, the actual original document and
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1 transferred it to our law firm in March 2016, and I can tell you
1 default since then. It’s just the case has went up and down to
15 THE COURT: Oh, wait I got it. Let me see, okay, hang
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17 MR. SHELBY: No - -
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THE COURT: Let’s see. It say, super of fact, dah,
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dah, dah. Its dah, dah, dah, nah, nah, nah, note as security
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for repayment. Okay. It says here plaintiff’s, you - -
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MR. SHELBY: Yep.
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THE COURT: - - seeks to rescind the prior Non-
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judicial Foreclosure sale and to have its deed - -
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MR. SHELBY: Yes.
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Plaintiff’s Argument 9
12 can find it here. You’re - - you got your motion there, often
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Plaintiff’s Argument 10
12 them what you’re going to tell them, then tell them, then tell
16 where I can find what you’re asking for. Let me go back out of
17 my thing here. I’ve got your Motion for Summary Judgment; I got
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it dated February 7th, 2019.
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MR. SHELBY: Yes, yes.
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THE COURT: And I got your Declaration - -
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MR. SHELBY: And that’s - -
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THE COURT: - - and then I got a Request Declaration
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Opposition, Motion Telephone, Declaration, dah, dah, dah. So
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Plaintiff’s Argument 11
13 included in the - -
3 well you see I’m asking what you - - okay I got all things you -
4 - well all the things you told me are in that summary.
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MR. SHELBY: Yeah.
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THE COURT: What I’m looking for is exactly,
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specifically how you’re going to write up the; if I award you,
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if I find in your favor, how are you going to write it out?
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That’s what I’m looking for.
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MR. SHELBY: I think that on the Declaration
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16 right now?
17 MR. SHELBY: On the Motion - -
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THE COURT: On the - -
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MR. SHELBY: On the February 7th Motion for Summary
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Judgement.
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THE COURT: On the Motion for Summary - -
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MR. SHELBY: The big - -
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THE COURT: Hang on, don’t - - hang on, let me get
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there. Hold on. Page seven on the motion?
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Plaintiff’s Argument 13
2 THE COURT: Page 11, okay I got that wrong, hang on.
2 original recording.
15 DEFENDANT’S ARGUMENT
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Defendant’s Argument 18
15 why I want to see that original note with the original blank
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Defendant’s Argument 20
2 and I’m pointing out what appears to be two holes along the top
3 edge of that page. Are you - - are you at that page, Judge?
4 THE COURT: No, I’m not yet.
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MR. GOODRICH: Okay.
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THE COURT: What, exhibit what, one?
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MR. GOODRICH: Exhibit 1 of the Motion for Summary
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Judgement. And of course it was included in the original
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complaint.
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THE COURT: It would have to be on the declaration
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17 MR. SHELBY: Which is a separate entry - -
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THE COURT: Right, I - -
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MR. SHELBY: - - for your Honor.
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THE COURT: Yeah.
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MR. SHELBY: And I’m finding it myself. There we go.
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THE COURT: Exhibit 1; I’m almost there. So I have
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it. I guess it would be Exhibit 1 is actual fixed/adjustable
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rate note? Is that what you’re referring to?
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Defendant’s Argument 21
3 centered along the top of the blank endorsement copy, not the
4 original.
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THE COURT: Yeah.
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MR. GOODRICH: These two marks appear to be punched
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holes, your Honor, of course only separated by approximately 70
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millimeters, which is two and three-quarter inches from center,
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leaving an indelible impression, evidently sourced by a standard
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two-hole punch. Now if the original endorsement, as described
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Defendant’s Conclusion 23
2 conclusion preferably.
3 alleges.
4 This evidence is required for this action to proceed.
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Regardless of how often the plaintiff asserts its power to
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enforce, claiming its authority is limited by the existence of
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said key evidence, which needs to be physically present in this
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venue for review and legal determination of its authenticity and
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subsequent claimant status, otherwise most reasonable jurors
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could conclude that this action was brought with unclean hands,
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3 for - -
4 THE COURT: Okay.
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MR. SHELBY: - - objections before - -
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THE COURT: All right.
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MR. SHELBY: - - submitting it to the Court.
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MR. GOODRICH: Judge, object - -
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THE COURT: Foreclosure - - the foreclosure, let’s
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see. I’ll find you foreclosure that - - that the note is in
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The Court’s Ruling 26
15 declare, and I’ll either give you the yes or no, and you can put
15 dealing with this exact kind of stuff, counsel can send out, I
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The Court’s Ruling 28
2 Preclusion?
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May 6, 2019
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13 Association?
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May 6, 2019
3 THE COURT: Shelby. Okay, and this the time set for;
4 who’s bringing this motion?
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MR. GOODRICH: I am, your Honor. I’m not sure who
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that first caller was that had been - -
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THE COURT: The first call is Mr. Health, Held.
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THE CLERK: He’s on a separate case.
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THE COURT: What?
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MR. HELD: That - - that’s for Olive V. Jones et al.
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15 THE CLERK: So, you have two attorneys, one for each
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17 THE COURT: Those are two separate cases.
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THE CLERK: Yeah.
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THE COURT: Separate people?
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THE CLERK: Uh-huh. Mr. Held will just sit tight
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until you call his case.
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THE COURT: All right, so - - well why don’t we just
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let him; we’ll recall him.
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May 6, 2019
3 THE COURT: All right, well I guess you don’t need to.
4 So I’m dealing with Shelby then. So Mr. Held, if you want to
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hold on we’ll deal with one other case before yours, okay.
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MR. HELD: All right, your Honor.
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THE COURT: All right, so now I’m dealing with TIAA
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versus Kevin Goodrich, correct?
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MR. GOODRICH: Correct.
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THE COURT: And do you - - so Mr. Goodrich?
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13 basis for the Motion for Relief. So what I brought was evidence
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2 judgement?
13 DEFENDANT’S ARGUMENT
14 original or is it not?
16 Mr. Shelby?
17 MR. SHELBY: Sorry, your Honor. I had it on mute
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there for a moment. I was told I have a - -
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THE COURT: Okay, is there any response - -
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MR. SHELBY: - - chair here.
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THE COURT: Any response to that?
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PLAINTIFF’S RESPONSE
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MR. SHELBY: Judge, this came on for Motion for
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2 to foreclose.
15 a mistaken belief of fact about what the note is, you granted
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Plaintiff’s Response 36
2 Goodrich now wants to do is ask you to take back your Motion for
3 Summary Judgment Order that you granted so that he can make some
4 different arguments when he submits to you what a document
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expert might say, if they were - - if they were used by the
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defendant, but he doesn’t really know that.
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THE COURT: Okay.
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MR. SHELBY: As far as you know whether the note is
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genuine or not, I mean for what it’s worth, I certainly believe
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it’s genuine. He, Mr. Goodrich, is not ever until after coming
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12 to see this note the first time, now he’s sort of hinting that
14 denying that the signature looks like his. He’s not denying
15 that he ever signed the note. He’s not telling you that he’s
2 were wrong.
13 -rebuttal. May I?
1 If you wouldn’t mind, page six of six. And comparing that page
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Certificate Page
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I, Carlotta Hall hereby certify that I am a Court
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Transcriber for the Circuit Court for Jackson County, that the
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DATED this 12th day of August, 2019 at Yachats,
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Oregon.
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