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Nechung – The Retiring Devil of Tibet

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Nechung Oracle in trance
(By Tsem Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline)
Dear friends around the world,
I am honoured to have been given the privilege of presenting my research on Nechung with all of you, here on His Eminence the 25th Tsem
Rinpoche’s blog. Nechung has been a Tibetan Buddhist Dharma protector for the past 1,300 years, keeping his promise to preserve the precious
teachings and Dharma practitioners. His oracle was officially appointed the State Oracle of Tibet during the reign of His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama
and has been consulted by the Tibetan Leadership until this day.
I sincerely wish that the content below will be able to clear any doubts and confusion anyone may have regarding the role of Dharma Protectors, their
qualities and most of all, the unnecessary ban of the practice of Dorje Shugden.
I would like to take this opportunity to extend my sincere appreciation to Pastor David Lai, Pastor Niral Patel, Martin Chow, Valentina Suhendra,
Beatrix Ooi, Abby Foo and Pastor Jean Ai for their time, valuable advice, as well as research, editing and uploading for this article.
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Origins
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Nechung and Dorje Shugden
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Urged on by spirits and demons,

The British, with their false God, their wealth and manpower,
Came to this Snowy Land surrounded by mountains
With their barbaric army.
These events, the like of which I’ve never seen before
Have broken the heart of this old devil.
-Pehar (Nechung), through Lobsang Jigme, the 16th State Oracle
What is a Dharma Protector?

According to Buddhist tradition, a Dharma Protector’s role is to protect the Buddha’s teachings and its religious institutions against adversaries as
well as to preserve the integrity of its teachings. For individuals, the Dharma Protector provides conducive circumstances and methods to overcome
our inner enemies, negative emotions such as fears, doubts, laziness and outer difficulties such as accidents, sickness, financial problems and so forth.
In the various traditions of Tibetan Buddhism, the role of the Dharma Protector is more so to preserve the Buddhists’ teachings, its lineages and
institutions by overcoming obstacles and providing necessary resources. This important task is assigned to a specific group of deities best known
under the name chokyong (Skt. dharmapāla), “protector of the Buddhadharma”. Other terms such as dansungma, “guardians of the Buddhist
teachings” or simply sungma, “guardians” are also given to this specific group of deities. The term damcan, “oath-bound one” is primarily given to
non-Buddhist deities who were subdued and made to take on the role of Buddhist protectors.
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Here Dorje Shugden has entered the Simla Kuten (oracle) and he is in full
trance. Dorje Shugden has a few very qualified oracles
In Tibetan Buddhism, there are two ways a lama would deal with harmful spirits. The first is to bind them to become a Dharma Protector and the
other is to perform a special fire puja called jinsek. One of the functions of jinsek fire pujas is to call upon an interfering spirit that is very harmful and
cannot be bound and then, with a Bodhichitta motivation (compassion), the spirit is summoned onto a ceremonial ladle by the power of the lama’s
meditation and lowered into the ritual fire, thereby killing the spirit. By the power of the lama’s ritual, the spirit reincarnates into one of the pure lands
instantly. In the case of binding a spirit, an attained lama will arise as a yidam (meaning he will meditate and become one in nature with meditational
deity) and subdue a harmful spirit by making the spirit swear to protect the Dharma. In the case of Nechung or more correctly known as Pehar
Gyalpo, Guru Rinpoche sealed his oath with the blessing of the vajra and anointed his tongue with the sacred liquid of Guru Rinpoche’s inner
offering.
In the Tibetan Buddhist pantheon, the specific group of protectors and guardians are divided into two groups: 1) supramundane protectors and, 2)
mundane protectors. The former refers to those powerful, high-ranking deities who are usually emanations of enlightened beings and are beyond the
six-realms of existence (the god, human, demigod, animal, hungry ghost and hell realms). The latter refers to beings who are still reside within the
six-realms of existence. Within the supramundane category of protectors, there are those who appear in supramundane form such as Kalarupa, Palden
Lhamo, Mahakala, and those who manifest in mundane forms like Setrap, Kache Marpo and Dorje Shugden. In accordance to the specific duties the
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under their feet. Amongst mundane protectors Pehar Gyalpo is the most well-known in Tibetan Buddhism. While Dorje Shugden serves
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Chatreng area’s Sampheling Monastery in Kham, Tibet is the personal

monastery of His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. Interestingly the two
main protectors of this monastery is Nechung and Dorje Shugden. The two
protectors seem to ‘co-exist’ peacefully together here for centuries
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1. What does a comparison between the Dorje Shugden and Nechung tell us about the nature of Dorje Shugden?
The table below highlights the differences between Nechung and Dorje Shugden:
Nechung Dorje Shugden

Nechung was a spirit that was subdued Dorje Shugden arose as a protector after
and bound by Guru Rinpoche to protect the untimely demise of Tulku Drakpa
Tibetan Buddhism. Gyeltsen. He was misunderstood to have
taken rebirth as a raging spirit but after
several failed attempts to destroy his
consciousness through fire pujas, it was
clear that he is of the same mindstream as
Yamantaka and Manjushri.
Guru Rinpoche subjugated Pehar His Holiness the 11th Dalai Lama, his
(Nechung), made him swear to protect the regent and the Chinese Emperor Dao
Buddha dharma and promised to stop all Guang, enthroned Dorje Shugden as an
harmful activities. enlightened protector.
During trance, Dorje Dragden through the During trance, high lamas will make
Nechung Oracle will make offerings to offerings to Dorje Shugden while Dorje
the Dalai Lama and then listen to Dalai Shugden is sitting on the throne. The high
Lama’s reminder of his oath and promises lamas will whisper their question to Dorje
to Guru Rinpoche. Shugden who will answer their question
in the manner of a high lama.
Dorje Dragden receives the tsog offering Dorje Shugden receives the tsog offering
during trance sessions with a sword. during trance sessions with a vajra and
bell, in the manner of an accomplished
tantric master.
The Nechung Oracle has given inaccurate Dorje Shugden through Panglung Oracle
prophecies on a number of occasions, is well known to have given accurate
including those pertaining to the health of prophecies including those relating to the
the 13th Dalai Lama, the British escape of the 14th Dalai Lama to India
Younghusband expedition, the returning from Tibet.
of Tibetans in exile to Tibet, etc.
Nechung is known only to give Dorje Shugden takes trance as a peaceful
prophesies and pronouncements. When lama in the Gaden oracles and teaches
Kyabje Ling Rinpoche was seriously ill, various scriptures, gives transmissions
the Changtzos (assistants) of Ling and initiations. Kyabje Ling Rinpoche
Ladrang (household) and the then Abbot had been consulting Dorje Shugden via
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way to heal Ling Rinpoche’s illness. The the Choyang Oracle (another famous
paper containing the questions was oracle that took trance of Dorje Shugden)
presented to Nechung in trance, who took returned, the Changtso would present the
it and crumpled it into a ball and put it letter containing the answers to Kyabje
under his buttocks. Nechung then Ling Rinpoche. The oracle would first
proclaimed that if Ling Rinpoche gets place the letter on top of his head as mark
better after three days, there would be no of deep respect and then passed it back to
harm to Ling Rinpoche’s life. Nechung the Changtso in order to read the answers
further commented that this is “Obstacles out loud to Ling Rinpoche. When the
from the big (interpreted to be the Dalai Changtso was done reading, he would
Lama) is put on the head of the small. wrap the letter with a khata and present it
(Interpreted to be Ling Rinpoche).” This to Kyabje Ling Rinpoche who would
got the Changtso worked up in confusion again put it on top of his head in
and anger. He said, “How can the Guru be reverence before keeping it away. This
considered small and the student shows the deep respect Ling Rinpoche
considered big?” had for Dorje Shugden and his
pronouncements. This was witnessed by
the Shimla Oracle who is a student of
Ling Rinpoche and has served in the
Ladrang for 15 years.
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2. Nechung is said to be intimately connected with Dorje Shugden. How is Nechung connected with Dorje Shugden and how does this relationship
affect the dynamics of both protectors today and in the future?
Dorje Shugden’s line of reincarnations can be traced back to Lama Tsongkhapa’s time. At that point in time, he had taken birth as Duldzin Drakpa
Gyeltsen, one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa who is regarded as attained as Lama Tsongkhapa himself. Nechung appeared as a
young boy to request Duldzin Drakpa Gyeltsen to take on the role of a Dharma Protector with the specific function to protect Lama Tsongkhapa’s
teaching of Nagajurna’s Middle Way. Duldzin Drakpa Gyeltsen agreed and this event marks the beginning of their relationship.
During the reign of the 5th Dalai Lama, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was reminded by Nechung about his promise to arise as a Dharma Protector that he
made in his previous incarnation as Duldzin Drakpa Gyeltsen. Nechung assisted Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen in the process, especially increasing Tulku
Drakpa Gyeltsen’s fame and fanning jealousy amongst the supporters of the Dalai Lama. This resulted in Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s assassination. It
was then that Dorje Shugden arose after the untimely demise of Drakpa Gyeltsen.
As listed in the karchag (guide-book) of Nechung monastery, there are three gates that lead into the cloistered courtyard of the monastery. According
to an old tradition, Dorje Shugden is waiting just outside the entrance of the southern gate that is held closed. On the day the gate is opened, he will
enter the monastery to succeed Pehar as the Chief Dharma Protector of Tibet. This will occur when Pehar has attained enlightenment and has vacated
the temple.
As of this moment, Dorje Shugden has become extremely popular the world over despite the controversy started by the Dalai Lama. As the Dalai
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monasteries are growing according the Glenn Mullin, an expert and biographer of the Dalai Lamas.
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In other words, Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand-in-hand for the sole purpose to protect the Dharma, especially the special teachings of
Lama Tsongkhapa’s lineage.
“In recent decades the present Dalai Lama has attempted to discourage the practice, but with little success. It is as strong today as ever,
if not stronger; for with the Dalai Lama discouraging it in India, the Chinese are fully promoting it in Tibet.”
~Extract from page 208 of The Fourteen Dalai Lamas: A Sacred Legacy of Reincarnation by Glenn H. Mullin
3. Since Nechung and Dorje Shugden have a close relationship, are there any lamas who practice or accept both Nechung and Dorje Shugden?
The 5th Dalai Lama himself wrote prayers to both Nechung and Dorje Shugden. The invocation of the protector Nechung is contained within the Dra
Yangma (Melodic Chant) ritual text. The Great 5th not only wrote a prayer, but even crafted a famous and still-existing statue of Dorje Shugden with
his own hands.
Nechung Rinpoche, Thupten Kunchok, a erudite master and attained practitioner also practised both Nechung and Dorje Shugden. This was conveyed
to His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche by Geshe Tsultrim Gyaltsen back in the 1980’s. Nechung Rinpoche used to visit Geshe-la at his centre, Thubten
Dargye Ling in Los Angeles. There is clearly no conflict between these two practices.
Nechung monastery belongs to the Nyingma lineage. As per the Nechung Monastery’s description in the answer for Question 2, it has been made
clear that the Nyingma lineage recognised and accepted Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden is considered as waiting at the southern gate, waiting to take
his place as the Chief Protector or Tibet. Nechung Monastery also has close links to Drepung Monastery, one of the three main monasteries of the
Gelug lineage. Therefore most of the ceremonies are carried out there are a mixture of Nyingma and Gelug practices. This again shows us that both
Nyingma lamas and Gelug lamas accepted and recognised both traditions as well as both Dharma protectors.
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A statue of Dorje Shugden riding on a horse that was

believed to have been made by the 5th Dalai Lama
4. If Pehar was subdued by Guru Rinpoche, why don’t the high lamas just bind Dorje Shugden with the same method since some consider him to be a
spirit?
If Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, any one of the great lamas can engage in rituals to subdue and bind him to become an oath-bound Dharma Protector.
These lamas can also perform a jinsek fire puja to subjugate Dorje Shugden. One of the functions of performing a jinsek can be to call an interfering
spirit that cannot tamed or bound and destroy their form in the wisdom fire. The consciousness of this spirit would instantly reincarnate into one of the
pure lands, where they would have the conducive conditions to attain enlightenment. Hence we can see that although this method is wrathful, it is one
that is motivated by compassion.
According to the writings of the 5th Dalai Lama himself, such fire rituals were already performed to subdue Dorje Shugden but they were deemed to
be unsuccessful. According to many lamas, this meant that Dorje Shugden must be enlightened himself, therefore he cannot be subdued by rituals as
the power of a Buddha cannot be used against another Buddha, as they are of the same and equal state which is complete enlightenment. Since no
great lamas can destroy or bind Dorje Shugden, it is clear to us that Dorje Shugden is not a spirit but an enlightened Dharma protector. In fact he is an
emanation of Manjushri, the Buddha of wisdom.
5. According to Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s writings, Nechung was instrumental in the manifestation of Dorje Shugden. However, in recent times,
Nechung in trance has been stating that Dorje Shugden is a harmful spirit. Why is there a contradiction?
For many lamas, this contradiction has been used to highlight the fact that the prophecies and pronouncements of the Nechung Oracle is inaccurate
and unreliable. This is a reputation that has plagued the oracles of Nechung for a long time. On the other hand, Dorje Shugden oracles have their
reputation intact and that is why Dorje Shugden oracles continue to be highly sought after.
One reason for the contradiction in Nechung’s statements about Dorje Shugden could be the fact that Nechung is actually working hand-in-hand with
the Dalai Lama on a higher cause to push Dorje Shugden’s practice out into the world. As the Dalai Lama bans Dorje Shugden, the practice still
continues to grow all over the world and especially in China. It is believed that China would be poised to be a world power and everything Chinese,
from its rich culture to its spiritual tradition would become highly sought after. In fact, all this is already happening as Dorje Shugden practice
continues to grow in China.
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Lobsang Jigme, the Nechung Oracle at the time of the Chinese occupation, was unaware of the escape of the 14th Dalai Lama and entourage to India,
until a week after the escape. According to signed affidavit accounts by those who witnessed the events, the Dalai Lama himself instructed Ratoe
Chowar Rinpoche to seek advice from Dorje Shugden through the 6th Panglung Oracle who gave clear instructions of the escape route and direction.
Lobsang Yeshe was also instructed by Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche to seek advice from the same oracle for the same matter. Dorje Shugden took trance
of the Panglung Oracle and instructed that the Dalai Lama should leave immediately as his life was in danger. He then went on to give specific
instructions regarding the escape route and bestowed the blessing that he would protect the Dalai Lama and his entourage as they escaped.
Due to the accuracy of the advice, the Dalai Lama and entourage arrived in exile safely. It is due to the success of this escape as prophesied and
assisted by Dorje Shugden that Tibetan Buddhism managed to flourish far and wide in the world. If the Dalai Lama had stayed in Tibet, he would
have been killed and Tibetan Buddhism would have remained unknown to the world.
Conclusion
In conclusion, although Pehar is an unenlightened being, a gyalpo spirit, he is keeping his promise to Guru Rinpoche to protect the Dharma since he
was bound in over 1,300 years ago. In addition, he also played a crucial role for the next Dharma protector of our time, Dorje Shugden to arise, in
order to continue this important task in preserving the sacred teachings that can benefit many. There is absolutely no conflict to these two protector
deities as they compliment each other in protecting the Dharma and its practitioners. The ban of Dorje Shugden is therefore unnecessary and illogical
as the bigger purpose of Dorje Shugden, the preservation of the Dharma, has to be achieved.
Sources of information:
In Exile From the Land of Snows
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Addendum
The Tibetan leadership’s connection with Nechung spans centuries. This study, by Christopher Paul Bell titled “Nechung – The Ritual History and
Institutionalization of A Tibetan Buddhist Protector Deity“, chronicles the relationship between the Dalai Lamas and Nechung, and how Nechung’s
practice become state-sanctioned during the time of the Fifth Dalai Lama.
It was the Fifth Dalai Lama’s government which endorsed, renovated and improved Nechung Monastery, as well as expanded Nechung’s ritual cycle,
thus setting the course for the Tibetan government to come to heavily rely on his prophecies. To read the PDF document, click here.
For more interesting information:
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10 Holy Dorje Shugden Statues in the World
Dorje Shugden Gyenze to Increase life merits and wealth
Dorje Shugden Trakze to Dispel Black Magic & Spirits
Dorje Shugden: My side of the story
Dorje Shugden Retreat: A Powerful practice to fulfill wishes
Dorje Shugden Teaching Videos
H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama
Largest Dorje Shugden in the World
Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors – A Definitive Guide to Dorje Shugden by Trijang Rinpoche
Panchen Lama’s Dorje Shugden Puja Text
Sakya Trizin’s Dorje Shugden Prayer
Shangmo Dorje Putri the Bamo of Sakya
The 14th Dalai Lama Prayer to Dorje Shugden
The Great Council of Lhasa
The Sakya Lineage of Dorje Shugden
To Sum It Up
Trode Khangsar – A 400 year old Dorje Shugden Chapel in Lhasa
Who is Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen
Who is Kache Marpo
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Tsem Rinpoche on May 2, 2019 at 12:13 am
Nechung Monastery, located just south of Drepung Monastery near Lhasa, is the seat of the Nechung Oracle, the State Oracle
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Chris on Mar 24, 2019 at 8:27 am
It is time for Nechung to retire already. He has been the state oracle giving His Holiness the Dalai Lama advice and whose advice has been
creating problems since the 13th Dalai Lama’s time. It was Nechung’s advice that actually led the 13th Dalai Lama to pass into clear light
prematurely.
Another example will be His Holiness’s escape from Tibet to India. Nechung took trance and told His Holiness the stay back in Tibet and there
is no need for His Holiness to leave. However, Dorje Shugden oracle took trance and told His Holiness to leave Tibet immediately and even
gave details on how they should leave Tibet.
Luckily they heed Dorje Shugden advice and left Potala Palace heading towards to India. That very night, the Chinese invaded Potala Palace
and if His Holiness heeds Nechung’s advice, he would be in grave danger. This shows the unreliability of Nechung’s advice recently.
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Erik Yeh on Dec 11, 2018 at 3:28 pm
Thank you for sharing this, Pastor Adeline. I hope that DS will swiftly spread far and wide, as people around the world are coming learn of the
benefits from invoking his blessings.
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Valentina Suhendra on Dec 10, 2018 at 12:34 am
Mantras are sacred verbalized words that invoke the protection and blessings of the deity to whom the mantra is ascribed. Mantras are also the
manifestations of Buddhas in the form of ‘sounds’, hence the various mantras of Dorje Shugden contain the essence of the Protector.
Dorje Shugden’s main mantra 多杰雄登主要咒语

OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
Dorje Shugden’s mantra for peace 平和咒语

For gaining attainments through the energy of Peaceful Shugden, peace of environment and mind, harmony in one’s abode and dwelling area,
and calming of disasters
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SHANTI SIDDHI HUNG
Dorje Shugden’s mantra for health 福寿安康咒语

For long life, increasing life, healing of disease and protection from diseases
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA AYU SIDDHI HUNG
Dorje Shugden’s mantra for increase 增长咒语

For gaining great merits and increase of all necessary needs, both material and spiritual
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA PUNYE SIDDHI HUNG
Dorje Shugden’s mantra for control 控制咒语

Of worldly deities, negative people and nagas and for influencing friends towards the positive
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA WASHAM KURU HO
Dorje Shugden’s mantra to grant protection 庇护咒语

Visualize that you are in the Protector’s mandala, fully protected from outside interferences. Recite when in danger or for dangerous situations,
for protection while travelling or when residing in dangerous/hostile places
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA RAKYA RAKYA HUNG
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Tsem Rinpoche on Nov 27, 2018 at 7:55 am
Dear friends,
Tibet has produced many powerful meditations, rituals and guidelines to help us gain spiritual protection, gain wisdom and higher states of
consciousness. In general Tibet has produced many powerful methods for the growth of our spiritual evolution. Dorje Shugden is an angel, a
saint, a powerful spiritual protector-warrior who originated 350 years ago when a highly awakened Tibetan Lama fulfilled his vows to become a
special being to grant protection, wisdom, material needs, safety when travelling (normal and astral travel) and spiritual awakening. Both the
Great 5th Dalai Lama and the current His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama composed short yet effective prayers to invoke upon the power and
blessings of this special saint and protector. One can recite either one of the prayers that you feel suits you, anytime or even daily. When you
feel a special need for help, you can recite either prayer anytime. When you are feeling down, afraid or just need a blessing, you can recite
them. After reciting either invocation, it is good to chant the mantra of Dorje Shugden: Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha.
You do not have to be a Buddhist or practitioner of any religion to invoke upon the blessings and protection of this special enlightened and
awakened angel Dorje Shugden. He helps all without discrimination or bias as he is filled with compassion and love. Divinity has no
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Enclosed are the prayers in English, Chinese and Tibetan.
May you be safe, protected and blessed.
Tsem Rinpoche
More on the Great 5th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden – https://bit.ly/2w7KHv6
More on H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden – https://bit.ly/2QdaL4n
Chapel (Trode Khangsar) built by the Great 5th Dalai Lama dedicated to Dorje Shugden in Lhasa – https://bit.ly/2zBTd8M
亲爱的朋友们，
西藏产生了许多有助于我们得到精神庇佑、取得智慧和更高层次之觉悟的强大禅修法、仪式和教诲。总括来说，西藏产生了许多有
助于我们在修行上取得提升的强有力方法。多杰雄登是一个天使，一位圣人和一名护法战士。他的崛起始于350年前，当一位高度觉
悟的西藏高僧履行本身的承诺，化身为特别的护法，赐予我们守护、智慧、物质需要、出入平安（平日外游和神游时）和灵修上的
觉醒。任何人都可以随时随地在任何时候念诵适合自己的祈愿文。当你需要特别的帮助时，你可以随时念诵任何一篇祈愿文。当你
感到沮丧、恐惧或仅是需要加持时，你也可以持诵这些祈愿文。在念诵任何祈请文后，你应该接着念诵多杰雄登的心咒：嗡班杂维
格毗札那娑哈 Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha。
要祈请多杰雄登这位特殊、觉悟和觉醒的天使赐予加持和庇佑，你无需是佛教徒或任何宗教的修行者。他总是没有分别或偏见，充
满慈悲和慈爱地帮助一切众生。神圣是没有界限的，圣者会帮助有求于他的任何人。
以下附上英文、中文和藏文的祈愿文。
愿你平安，常受庇护和加持。
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更多关于第五世达赖尊者和多杰雄登护法的内容 — https://bit.ly/2zsC3tG
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第五世达赖尊者为多杰雄登护法在拉萨建造的护法殿（布旦康萨）— https://bit.ly/2zBTd8M
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Tsem Rinpoche on Nov 23, 2018 at 7:16 am
Divination (‘mo’) Text by Dorje Shugden

This is an important divination (‘mo’) text composed by Dorje Shugden himself. Dorje Shugden took trance of the Choyang Dulzin oracle
lama, the senior oracle of Gaden Shartse Monastery, and instantly on the spot composed this text within two hours.
The divination text contains information on how to use dice to do divination for the future and is known to be highly accurate. When
practitioners use this text, they will be in direct contact with Dorje Shugden to get answers to questions about the future. It is for those who
have good samaya with Dorje Shugden and are free of the eight worldly dharmas to be of benefit to others in divining the future.
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Pastor Adeline Woon on Sep 24, 2018 at 3:17 am
Be blessed with these rare videos featuring explanation and advice about Dorje Shugden practice by His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche in his
own voice. The teaching was requested by Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, one of the earliest masters who taught Tibetan Buddhism in the West.
Video 1: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche Explains Dorje Shugden Initiation and Benefits (With English Subtitles)
Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was an erudite scholar, ritual master and practitioner of the highest degree from Tibet. At the request of Geshe Tsultrim
Gyeltsen, one of the pioneers who taught Tibetan Buddhism in America, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche gives clear explanation and advice about the
life-entrustment initiation of Dorje Shugden and how to go about the practice and get the maximum benefits in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzFMvlxAqtc&feature=youtu.be
Video 2: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche speaks on the History and Lineage of Dorje Shugden (With English Subtitles)
In this video, an erudite scholar, ritual master and practitioner of the highest degree from Tibet, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche talks about the
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For more information: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/kyabje-zong-rinpoches-advice-on-dorje-

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H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche Explains Dorje Shugden Initiation and Bene ts (With English Subtitles)
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Samfoonheei on Aug 16, 2018 at 4:17 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline and the writers team for this well written research on Nechung. Nechung is bound under oath by Guru Rinpoche and
committed to protect the Tibetan Buddhism. It ‘s a extensive knowledge to understand the details between an unenlightened dharma protector
and enlightened dharma protector . Some knowledge to know for sure of the differences between Nechung and Dorje Shugden. Nechung have
continued to serve H.H Dalai Lama and the Tibetan even till this day. Reading this details write up will definitely help to clear all the
misunderstanding and doubts for many of us, regarding of the unnecessary ban of the practice of Dorje Shugden. The ban has brought so much
sufferings to many practitioners around the world.
May the ban be lifted soon so that there will be unity and harmony .
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His Holiness the 10th Panchen Lama
Tibetans commonly refer to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama and His Holiness 10th Panchen Lama as the “sun and moon” of Tibetan
Buddhism. They are the center of Tibetan Buddhist civilization, which draws to its sphere of influence millions of non-Tibetan practitioners.
The Panchen Lama’s incarnation line began with the 16th abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, Lobsang Chokyi Gyeltsen (1570 – 1662). He was
bestowed the title of Panchen Lama by His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama after being declared as an emanation of Amitabha.
After being given the title, his three previous incarnations were posthumously also bestowed the title, making Lobsang Chokyi Gyeltsen the 4th
Panchen Lama. He became a teacher to many Tibetans, Bhutanese and Mongolian religious figures, including His Holiness the 4th and 5th
Dalai Lamas, and the 1st Jetsun Dampa of Mongolia. A prolific author, Chokyi Gyeltsen is credited with over a hundred compositions,
including a number of commentaries and ritual texts that remain central in the Gelukpa tradition today. Along with his role as a teacher of the
Dharma, the Panchen Lamas are usually responsible for the recognition of the rebirths of the Dalai Lamas, and vice versa.
The 10th Panchen Lama, Lobsang Trinley Lhundrub Chokyi Gyeltsen (19 February 1938 – 28 January 1989) continued both the spiritual and
political roles of his predecessors. His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, his contemporary, was even heard to say and echo the Panchen Lama’s
own words that the Dalai Lama would safeguard Tibet from the outside while the Panchen Lama would safeguard Tibet from the inside, as he
never left Tibet after the political troubles of 1959. He was truly loved by the Tibetans, all the way until his passing. When he taught, thousands
of people would attend, not only from his own Gelug lineage, but masters and practitioners from all traditions of Tibetan Buddhism.
At his sprawling monastery of Tashi Lhunpo, he has a special chapel specifically dedicated to Dorje Shugden, where prayers and rituals are
performed on a daily basis. In his great omniscience the Panchen Lama held Dorje Shugden as the principal Dharma protector of the monastery.
He also personally propitiated Dorje Shugden among other Dharma protectors, and even wrote extensive prayers and rituals to Dorje Shugden.
These rituals and prayers are contained within his ‘sung bum’ or collected works, which are provided here. As such a great lama, with an
erudite and clear understanding of the Buddhist scriptures, a teacher to millions in both Tibet and China, from an established incarnation line
and an emanation of the Buddha Amitabha, he could not be mistaken about his practice of Dorje Shugden.
His Holiness 10th Panchen Lama is known for his composition of commentaries and practice texts that are still in use by contemporary
Buddhist practitioners both in Tibet and across the world. One of these is a powerful ritual composition propitiating the compassionate Dorje
Shugden.
Upon the request by Acharya Lobsang Jangchub to compose a shorter version of the prayer (sadhana) for the exhortation of activities of Dorje
Shugden, Panchen Lama immediately composed an abbreviate form of Dorje Shugden’s Kangsol. This text is entitled “Manjunatha’s
(Tsongkapa) Lineage protector Dorje Shugden and five forms wrathful propitiations and confessional prayers and fulfilment of activities rites”
or “Melodious sound of Accomplishment of the Four Activities” for short. Once the prayers were completed, he had signs and strong feelings
that Dorje Shugden has been working hard to protect the Buddhadharma in general and the lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa specifically.
Mirroring the abilities of one of his earlier incarnations, Khedrub Je, a disciple of Lama Tsongkhapa and master of both sutra and tantra, the
Panchen Lama used his compositional skill and poetic prowess to create a masterful sadhana. Worthy of note is a praise in which the first letter
of each verse is a Tibetan vowel. Such compositions are rarely seen, and have historically only been used when propitiating senior Dharma
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The Panchen Lama also stated that while composing the Dorje Shugden sadhana (prayers) he was filled with a sense of happiness and bliss. He
ends the composition with not only his official title but his ordination name, Tenzin Trinley Jigme Choje Wangchuk, endorsing the validity of
his work. He composed the sadhana in his own Tashi Lhunpo monastery while in the Hall of Clear Light and Bliss.
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Edward Ooi on Aug 10, 2018 at 8:36 am
For the first time available, Dorje Shugden and his entourage of 32 assistants of his mandala.
Dorje Shugden is a powerful protector deity who is also an emanation of Manjushri, a wisdom bestowing Buddha. Therefore, he has great
ability to help us to progress further on the spiritual path. He does this by helping us to overcome obstacles and problems for the modern
individual.
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– Dulzin Dorje Shugden, which performs activities to eliminate inner and outer obstacles.
– Shize, which performs activities to pacify all illnesses and disease.
– Gyenze, which performs activities to increase all desirable material and spiritual wealth.
– Wangze, which performs activities to control difficult people and circumstances.
– Trakze, which performs activities to wrathfully eliminate all insurmountable obstacles and life-threatening situations.
2. 9 Mothers. They represent protection of the five senses and developing control of the four elements. These are all attributes that signify their
ability to assist tantric practitioners with their higher meditations.
3. 8 Guiding Monks. They represent the Eight Great Bodhisattvas (Avalokitesvara, Manjushri, Vajrapani, Samantabhadra, Maitreya,
Kshitigarbha, Akashagarbha, Sarva-nivarana-viskambini) and they bring about the growth of the Dharma, through the Sangha, Dharma
practitioners and Dharma establishments.
4. 10 Youthful & Wrathful Attendants. They represent the ten wrathful attendants to avert inner and outer obstacles. They are beings who are
from Mongolia, China, Kashmir, India, Bengali, etc.
5. Setrap. He is a senior Dharma Protector from India and an emanation of Amitabha Buddha. He had enthroned Dorje Shugden as an authentic
Dharma Protector. Therefore, he also resides within the same mandala of Dorje Shugden.
6. Kache Marpo. He is not an emanation of Dorje Shugden but he is still an enlightened Dharma Protector in his own right. He was originally
known as Tsiu Marpo of Samye Monastery. However, he has placed himself under the service of Dorje Shugden as his chief minister,
performing many activities in order to protect and benefit practitioners. Therefore, he stands guard at the main entrance of Dorje Shugden’s
mandala. He often takes trance of qualified mediums to speak.
7. Namkar Barzin. He is the reincarnation of an old Mongolian monk and when he passed away in Phari area of Tibet, his spirit was placed as a
powerful assistant of Dorje Shugden. He guards and protects buildings and great institutions especially those that benefit others. He rides on a
mythical Gyaling animal that resembles a goat but with scales.
These sacred images are available on *Vajrasecrets. They are made of high quality alloy and are one of a kind. They are based on the lineage of
His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche’s monastery, Tashilhunpo in Shigatse, Tibet. In fact, the iconography of these statues are based on detailed
photographs taken by H. E. Tsem Rinpoche during a trip to Tashilhunpo’s protector chapel. These are based exactly as the 10th Panchen Lama’s
personal collection.
Dorje Shugden mandala: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=131570
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Tsem Rinpoche on Jul 29, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Regarding Goddess Yudroma and her oracle in Dharamsala

1. I have met this oracle several times in Dharamsala. She gives very accurate predictions. I have experienced this myself.
2. She is a gentle Yudroma goddess riding on a horse and she is white in color and takes trance quite easily in this official oracle lady that lived
in Dharamsala. When you go meet her, you have to bring milk and yogurt. She takes 7 sips of the milk when she first arrives and recites a host
of prayers before we can consult her. We have the honor to offer her the milk to gather affinity with her.
3. She, the oracle lady became well known as over several decades ago, a western hiker was lost in the Dharamsala hills. The goddess was
consulted via this oracle and Yudroma then correctly told them where to find the hiker and the hiker was found and life saved. After that she
became very well known in Dharamsala.
4. Yudroma the goddess is one of the main protectors of the Gelug Gyuto Tantric Monastery in Dharamsala. They have relied on her for
hundreds of years since Tibet. The monks often ask the lady oracle to take trance and through her consult Yudroma.
5. She would be pleased in this video because people are helping Gyuto Monastery, her dominion. Perhaps she is the one that brought the
Australian sponsors to help in the first place in her own mystical methods.
6. She is also the protector of Gungru khangtsen in Drepung Gomang monastery in South India.
7. Sadly this lady oracle has passed away and I guess people are perhaps waiting for a new oracle to be chosen by the Yudroma goddess.
Haven’t heard anything yet. How lovely this lady served the goddess, monks and monasteries and public through taking trance her whole life.
So virtuous of a job. Her body was used to benefit thousands in her lifetime and serve the sangha.
Exciting.
I like oracles because humans can meet the gods directly.
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(I have attached a video of her taking trance as well as This is Goddess Yudroma thangka photo. This is a picture of the actual thangka that
belonged to the oracle in the video. I got her permission to take this picture when I visited her. The Yudroma thangka was hanging in the room
where the oracle takes trance in her house. Thanks. TR)
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Pastor Adeline Woon on Jul 25, 2018 at 3:06 am
Sakya tradition’s thangka of Dorje Shugden sitting on a throne within his palace with his four emanations and high Sakya Lamas nearby. Tsem
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Joy Kam on Jul 21, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Antique Pelden Lhamo thangka with sacred Dorje Shugden at the bottom right. Can see Tsongkapa and Guru Rinpoche on the top also.
Beautiful and holy.
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Valentina Suhendra on Oct 22, 2017 at 11:37 pm
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Tsem Rinpoche on Jul 28, 2017 at 10:00 am
This is a powerful picture of Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, Kensur Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and the current incarnation of Trijang Rinpoche meeting
together in the year 2000 when Trijang Rinpoche was 18. All three lamas are Dorje Shugden practitioners. In fact Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen was
the one that first encouraged my practice of Dorje Shugden when I was 16 years old when I joined his beautiful Thubten Dhargye Ling centre in
Los Angeles. I lived with Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen for 8 years before proceeding to Gaden Monastery in South India. Later Kyabje Zong
Rinpoche came to our Los Angeles centre and granted sogtae (permission ceremony) to practice Dorje Shugden for life as requested by Geshe
Tsultrim Gyeltsen. Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen had tremendous faith in Trijang Rinpoche. Kyabje Lati Rinpoche was innovative, dedicated and
very much focused on bringing dharma to many. He had tremendous faith in Dorje Shugden as I had the honour to meet him many times. He
would seek advice from Dorje Shugden many times via the oracle of Gaden Monastery. Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen and Kensur Kyabje Lati
Rinpoche have since passed away while the current Trijang Rinpoche is a perfect lineage holder and practitioner of Dharma while he keeps
Dorje Shugden as his personal protector as he has done so for many lifetimes. This is a powerful and beautiful picture of three great lamas of
Buddha’s lineage and also of Gaden Monastery. ~Tsem Rinpoche
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MartinC on Feb 9, 2017 at 5:02 am
This comment by Suzy posted on Tsem Rinpoche’s YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-4lIwxph4&t=11s) speaks
volumes of how the public is beginning to look beyond false rhetoric to see the goodness of this very important deity. Suzy confessed that she
tried to avoid recognizing the beauty of the Shugden practice due I guess to old loyalties but the truth cannot be buried forever. Have a read.
The politics and racism of the Dorje Shugden ban
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Anne Ong on Oct 25, 2016 at 9:59 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline and blog writers for doing research on this wonderful article on Nechung. It was great to understand the difference
between an unenlightened dharma protector and enlightened dharma protector from this short video.Points that i have picked up from this video
are,enlightened protector takes trance inside the monastery.unenlightened protector takes trance outside the monastery.enlightened protector
takes trance sitting on the throne. unenlightened protector sits on the chair.enlightened being faces away from the altar. unenlightened being
faces the altar.
Unenlightened being makes offerings to lamas.Lamas makes offering to enlightened beings.Unenlightened being receives tsok with a
sword.Enlightened being receives tsok with vajra and bell.When oracle takes trance.Unenlightend being stands and has audience with
lamas.Lamss stand and have audience with enlightened being.When oracle takes trance,Sangha shows little respect for unenlightened
being.Sangha shows great respect for enlightened being.
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Wan Wai Meng on Oct 7, 2016 at 12:17 am
Lovely article by Pastor Adeline and all her friends, this is a really important article and shows us what the relationship between Nechung and
Dorje Shudgen. Just like the Dalai Lama who is conjuring the ban on Dorje Shugden, Nechung appears to rival Dorje Shugden. I believe
Nechung is very very close to enlightenment for his prolonged service to the Dalai Lama.
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Tsem Rinpoche on Sep 15, 2016 at 3:23 am
Trode Khangsar Chapel in Lhasa, Tibet
Over 400 years ago a great and learned lama Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was famed in Mongolia, Tibet, Nepal and China for being very
saintly and compassionate. He resided in his residence (Zimkhang Gongma Ladrang) in Drepung Monastery. His root guru was H.H.
the Omniscient 4th Panchen Lama and his close dharma brother was the 5th Dalai Lama.
The 5th Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen had a very close and dharmic relationship and often went to receive teachings
together from the 4th Panchen Lama. They were close in age. They both became very learned and well known. During this time, the
Dalai Lama was enthroned as a Dharma King of Tibet. But more people went to see Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen for teachings, initiations
and divinations. This made the attendants of the 5th Dalai Lama feel threatened that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s fame might usurp the
power of the 5th Dalai Lama. So they had a khata forced down his throat. At that moment, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen dissolved his
psychic winds and generated the wish to be a great guardian of Buddha and Tsongkapa’s teachings. As his consciousness dissolved, he
entered ‘bardo’ as a dharma protector of the highest order (jikten depey sungma). Many signs were seen throughout Lhasa
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and the earth was said to have shaken in Lhasa. This event was already predicted to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s previous DORJE
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when he was one of the 8 main disciples of Lord Tsongkapa the Supreme Master and he served Tsongkapa directly by building Gaden
Monastery.
When the 5th Dalai Lama heard what his scheming and power-hungry attendants had done, he was very distressed. He was very sorry
Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was murdered and dishonored as he was a great dharma master. The 5th Dalai Lama composed an apology to
Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. In Lhasa, tens of thousands gathered for the cremation of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s holy body. During the
cremation, the 5th Dalai Lama’s apology was read out at which flames spontaneously arose from the body of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen
commencing the cremation. From the body, during cremation, a powerful whirlwind of smoke tunneled into the sky for all to see as this
was an indication Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s consciousness has arisen as the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden. The Dharma Protector
Setrap immediately recognized this new protector Dorje Shugden and ‘enthroned’ him as a powerful Dharma Protector in the realm of
the Buddhas. From this, Setrap and Dorje Shugden are closely connected and very close working hand in hand always. After the
cremation, the great 5th Dalai Lama built a Dorje Shugden chapel on the spot the cremation took place and named it Trode Khangsar.
The 5th Dalai Lama commissioned the statue of Dorje Shugden in this chapel and had monks installed in the chapel to do continuous
propitiations to Dorje Shugden. Trode Khangsar Chapel was a commemoration to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who was wronged and also a
celebration of his consciousness arising as the World Peace Peace Protector Dorje Shugden.
This Trode Khangsar Chapel still exists now in Lhasa where many make pilgrimages there. It is in good condition and was recently
renovated. It is over 400 years old and a testimony to the respect the Great 5th Dalai Lama had to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who arose as
Dorje Shugden.
I have visited this holy chapel in Lhasa years back. I’ve never heard of it till I was in Lhasa and by chance, I was told about it which I
was happy to visit. I could not find the place but strangely a bunch of pilgrims from Amdo told me they would show me how to get
there in Lhasa.
This short video is a short clip of this holy Trode Khangsar Chapel in Lhasa today commemorating Dorje Shugden, built by the great
5th Dalai Lama. The great 5th Dalai Lama even composed a prayer to Dorje Shugden which is still available today and we can recite to
invoke the blessings, protection, and assistance of World Peace Protector Dorje Shugden.
Tsem Rinpoche
Read more: Trode Khangsar – A 400-year-old Dorje Shugden Chapel in Lhasa

https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/trode-khangsar-%E2%80%93-a-400-year-old-dorje-shugden-chapel-in-
lhasa.html
Short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTybDwTeLAM
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The 5th Dalai Lama’s Prayer to Dorje Shugden
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Though unmoving from the sphere of primordial spontaneity, SHUGDEN....
With wrathful turbulent power, swifter than lightning,
Endowed with heroic courage to judge good and bad,

I invite you with faith, please come to this place!
Robes of a monk, crown adorned with rhinoceros leather hat,

Right hand holds ornate club, left holds a human heart,
Riding various mounts such as nagas and garudas,
Who subdues the mamos of the charnel grounds, praise to you!
Samaya substances, offerings and torma, outer, inner and secret,

Favourite visual offerings and various objects are arranged.
Although, previously, my wishes were a bit dense,
Do not stop your powerful apparitions, I reveal and confess!
Now respectfully praising with body, speech, and mind,

For us, the masters, disciples, benefactors and entourages,
Provide the good and avert the bad!
Bring increase like the waxing moon in spiritual and temporal realms!
Moreover, swiftly accomplishing all wishes,

According to our prayers, bestow the supreme effortlessly!
And like the jewel that bestows all wishes,
Always protect us with the Three Jewels!
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Tibetan prayer from: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/the-14th-dalai-lamas-prayer-to-dorje-shugden.html
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Ugo on Aug 31, 2016 at 10:04 am
Ugui bol ugui.
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freon on Jun 28, 2016 at 6:40 pm
Dear Pastor Adeline,
Thank you for this detail article on Nechung. In this article, it is not only talk about the oracle, but also mentioned on Nechung Rinpoche. Thus,
we are clear that, the Nechung Oracle have to be train and chosen. While Nechung Rinpoche is consider the incarnation of Langdro Kunchok
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From ancient history to today’s world, Nechung have continued to serve H.H Dalai Lama and the Tibetan. He have protected the dharma since
Guru Padmasambhava time.
Although in recent centuries, seem like he had acted quite emotional and gave wrong advise, I do agreed with writer that Nechung is creating a
way to Dorje Shugden. Well , it is related seeing that The rise of Dorje Shugden is also related to Nechung. They work hand in hand together
with Dalai Lama to bring dharma to more people.
Nechung is not an enlighten protector, his origin is a spirit bound by Guru Padmasambhava . While Dorje Shugden arose from the line of
Mahasattva which could trace back to the time of Shakyamuni. Thus, when the oracles took trance we can see the different. Nechung pay
respect to Lama. While the lama will pay respect to Dorje Shugden and etc. This also clearly state to us that Dorje Shugden is an enlighten
beings.
Thus, to agreed with Nechung and ban Dorje Shugden, is not an illogical action. How can some one agreed with spirit but denied the Buddha.
Thus, i urge H.H The Dalai Lama, please lift the ban that is really illogical.
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Freon
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Shane Jayasuriya on Jun 19, 2016 at 8:04 pm
Great Article, Its good to think every thing happen to divine plan. Nachung arrange and helped Dorje shugden to arise as a dharma protector in
first place. Can believe dorje Shugden and Nechung is working together.
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yikming on Jun 11, 2016 at 12:37 am
This article is awesome with the level of research done. Gives a good insight into Dharma protector role and details on Nechung ( State Oracle )
and Dorje Shugden. What amazes me is the relationship between Nechung and Dorje Shugden. Observe that during the 13th Dalai Lama,
Nechung prediction seems to begin to be inaccurate which could be an intended sign of “retiring” . From the ” Oracles and Demons Of Tibet ”
book , the description of Nechung Gompa indicates the coming of Dorje Shugden and from the sign, the time have come. Dharma Protector
manifest to suits the people of the time. Fascinating that Dorje Shugden reincarnations can be traced back to Lama Tsongkhapa time as Dulzin
Drakpa Gyeltsen, he was approached by Nechung himself manifesting a boy requesting him to be the Dharma Protector for Lama Tsongkhapa
Teaching. This article was great in piecing the puzzle together. I really do hope the ban on Dorje Shugden is brought down. Thank
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graceleong on Jun 11, 2016 at 12:33 am
In the pantheon of the Buddhas there is this constant flow of activities that are taking place. Some activities are simpler and the teachings and
messages are clear and precise. Whereas there are other activities which seemed to be like a constant play of myriad characters manifesting very
extreme results which can shake the very essence of faith in a practitioner. Now which is what ?
1) In the 14th century, Nechung manifested to Duldzin Dragpa Gyaltsen to request for him to remember his promise to manifest as a Dharma
protector Dorje Shugden
2) In the 17th century Dorje Shugden arose from the death of Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen
3) meanwhile Nechung continues to be the state oracle of Tibet, assisting the Dalai Lama in his responsibilities till today, the 21st century.
4) Dorje Shugden was a protector to different schools, to the Nyingmas(in a smaller way), to the Sakyas(practiced by many of the Sakya Trizins
who head the school) and of course by the Gelugpa High Lamas too; for the last 400 years.
5) From the time of the 13th Dalai Lama’s death in 1933, Nechung’s blunders and mistakes started to be apparent and made known because the
effects were detrimental. But yet, Nechung continues to serve as the state oracle.
6) Nechung’s blunders were so serious that he could have caused the death of the 14th Dalai Lama if not for Dorje Shugden’s instructions to
assist the Dalai Lama’s escape from the invasion of the Chinese in 1958.
7) In the 1990s the Dalai Lama went in strongly to ban the practice of Dorje Shugden despite that his own Gurus are practicing Dorje Shugden.
HHDL forced the monks to vote and created the segregation and divide in the Gelugpa lineage, causing extreme suffering to families and
friends.
All the above and many more major incidences took place in this whole “illusory play” as described by Trijang Rinpoche, Lobsang Yeshe
Tenzin Gyatso in the Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors. There is so much controversy created by both human and Gods,so, What is
what ???
Trijang Rinpoche’s advice is to continue to persevere through all the obstacles and stay steadfast to the practice of Dorje Shugden and do not
disparage any of the Gurus and HHDL.
Even when the going gets tough the faith must remain strong; the same thing we will have to do even in our samsaric endeavours. The
Buddha’s teachings, Dorje Shugden’s teachings are to help us through all the obstacles and obscurations in our samsaric life; very similar to all
the cosmic war and drama in the spiritual world !! The time will come when all these wars are history. Till then the lineage and the teachings
must be protected and be shared to benefit many more.
Thank you Rinpoche and all the writers for all the hard work and efforts taken to create this post to help us understand further. With folded
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Choong on Jun 11, 2016 at 12:29 am
If one digs into who Pehar is, one will come across that Pehar has five aspects equivalent to the Five Dhyani Buddhas who are aspects of the
dharmakaya (dharma-body), the latter which embodies the principle of enlightenment.
So I believe that Pehar is also an enlightened being manifesting in various forms over time. And if an enlightened being is synonymous with the
birth of Dorje Shugden, surely Dorje Shugden cannot be a Gyalpo or harmful spirit.
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Fong on Jun 11, 2016 at 12:29 am
Many of Nechung oracles prophecy proved inaccurate and Dorje Shugden oracles prophecy has been accurate. Nechung oracle’s advise even
cause the death of the 13th Dalai Lama. This shows that one should not rely on Nechung.
Nechung oracle takes trance outside the monastery and it is clearly stated that Pehar was a powerful spirit from Persia. Dorje Shugden oracle
takes trance inside the monastery showing Dorje Shugden is enlightened. If Dorje Shugden is enlightened how can he be a mere spirit and to be
disparaged?
How can a spirit arise from an attained monk and tantric master? If that is the case, it will prove that the Buddha was wrong. If a spirit, albeit a
very powerful one can be subdued by Guru Rinpoche, couldn’t a mere spirit be subdued too? This proves that Dorje Shugden is not a mere
spirit.
Beside, it is stated that Nechung played a significant part in the arising of Dorje Shugden. That means they do work together for the Dharma
and benefit of sentient being and that there is no feud.
This might just prove Rene Nebesky Wojkowitz’s research right in that Nechung will be retiring and that Dorje Shugden will take over as state
Dharma Protector of Tibet.
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CK Leong on Jun 10, 2016 at 11:38 pm
If all the while this had been a play of good vs evil between Nechung and DS to expand more and more dharma teaching in this degenerate
time, what is the consequence when the ban is lifted?. Have we reached the scale where we can now pull the plug off of this play. Are we better
off or worst off without the ban?.
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Katrina Ann on Jun 10, 2016 at 11:27 pm
By reading the article on Pehar’s origins, we can see that the negativity started when fierce native spirits and gods were worshipped in the past.
Pehar has prophesied that the Tibetans will be able to return to their homeland many times, but the prophecies were simply unreliable. But why
aren’t the Tibetans able to return to their homeland? With the most common understanding of karma, it is possible that the Tibetans’ negative
karma does not allow them to return nor gain back their home. The Tibetans have always believed in the Dalai Lama’s teachings and advises,
but they are merely forgetting about the fact that the Dalai Lama receives majority of the prophecies from a spirit who was once fierce and
impure. By blindly following the advice of a spirit, whose prophecies are unreliable, the Tibetans are hence creating more bad karma for
themselves, such as creating or bringing harm to the dharma by harming other dharma practitioners of Dorje Shugden mentally and physically.
If Pehar was a pure spirit seeking to help with the spread of the dharma, why would he convince the Dalai Lama to look down or to
discriminate Dorje Shugden practitioners? Why are the prophecies unreliable? With much said, we should always look up on the history or
origin of a topic or subject before making accusations. As practitioners of buddhism, we should keep in mind how our own karma prevents us
from getting back on the right track, and with that, keep on open mind to see how the past relates to the present.
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Frederick Law on Jun 2, 2016 at 2:46 am
After 5 days continuous discussion on this article, I had learned alot from about who Nechung is, and how Nechung had shaped the current
Dorje Shugden practice. Although Nechung maybe an oatbound worldly Protector, but he is no ordinary protector.
Below are 5 points I had gether from this article:
1) Although Nechung is an oat-bound dharma protector, but he manifest in 5 forms of Body, Speech and Mind, activity, and qualities.
he Principal Forms of Pehar Gyalpo are as follows:
King of Body – Monbu Putra (rides on a blue lion)

King of Speech – Dra Lha Kye Chigbu (rides on a mule)
King of Mind – Gya Jin (rides on an elephant)
King of Qualities – Shing Cha Chen (rides on a zombie, or a horse)
King of Activities – Pehar (rides on a white lion)
The form that takes trance of the Nechung Oracle is the emanation of the speech aspect, Dra Lha Kye Chigbu, also known as Dorje Dragden.
2)The accuracy, the prophecy and also the quality of Nechung Oracle is not reliable, and even at many times the previous Nechung Oracle
given wrong advice to the Dalai Lama, and even prescribed wrong medication that almost cause the death of 13th Dalai Lama. Second of
example of the advice which does not benefit the Tibetan and Dalai Lama is when Nechung in trance gave catastrophic advice to the 13th Dalai
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3) Although Nechung is the official State oracle, but dealing with Pehar is rather difficult as Pehar has its like and dislike, this behavior matches
a worldly being that is attached in Samsara.
4) Nechung plays an important role is the emergence of Dorje Shugden, when he asked Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen to arise as an uncommon
Protector, and which follows the reincarnation of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen, who then arose as Dorje Shugden with the help of Nechung who had
created the condition for TDG to become an uncommon Protector to protect the Middle Way View of Nagajurna.
5) From the sign that is evident where Nechung giving inaccurate and unreliable prophecies and advice, not talking during trance shows
Nechung is slowly preparing himself for Enligtenment. Yet on the other hand, Dorje Shugden oracle is sought after for His accuracy in giving
advice and prophecies. And Dorje Shugden will the replace Nechung as Chief Dharma Protector.
Thank you,
Frederick Law
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Martin on Jun 10, 2016 at 11:09 pm
Dear Frederick,
I enjoyed your comments very much. Thank you.
Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche has said that Pehar is actually enlightened and yet we see Pehar/Nechung manifesting so many grave errors.
These are significant contradictions.
The only way to reconcile these contradictions is to share the view that Tsem Rinpoche has always stood by, that is, these are all parts of
an illusive drama being played out, and in the bigger picture, both Nechung and the Dalai Lama are working hand in hand with Dorje
Shugden to propagate the Dharma.
There is after all no set rule as to how the Dharma should be propagated. When we look at all the spectacle and melodrama of the past
twenty years, we see also how the lineage of Dorje Shugden and hence Lama Tsongkhapa has been spread riding on the back on the
controversy.
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Alice Tay on Jun 1, 2016 at 11:54 pm
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护法是慈悲的佛菩萨以忿怒像的化身来维护佛陀所有的教诲。这些护法被称为证悟护法。然而，也有一些是未证悟的护法比如乃穹
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护法。乃穹护法是其中一位被莲花生大师所制服的土神灵。他宣誓停止制造任何伤害而成为一位维护和效力于佛法。然而，对个人
SHUGDEN....
来说，护法却可以提供有利环境和让我们克服我们内在的敌人，以及外在的困难，如工作、财政、健康等等的问题。如此一看，护
法最终目的其实就是要利益一切众生。只是，平凡的我们往往都会有错误的想法，扭曲事实而导致所有人陷入痛苦中。
感谢仁波切和温婉如讲法师在此分享关于乃穹护法。此分享可以让我们认真去深入的思考、探讨、阅读与了解前因后果，我们不难
发现到，今天所发生的雄登禁令是否应该继续下去，或是必须尽快被解除？
真心的祈望，越来越多人会明白真理，然后勇敢的站起来，合心协力的维护一个纯净的传承。
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Stella Cheang on May 31, 2016 at 3:55 pm
First of all, this is really an important article that Dorje Shugden practitioners of trying times should read and understand. It provides the
background on Dharma Protector, the ranks of Dharma Protector, as well as their relationship with the secular State governance.
Secondly, and more importantly, this article draws parallel between Nechung and Dorje Shugden, which allow us to realize how lucky we are
through the blessing of our Lama to be able to rely on enlightened Dharmapala, Dorje Shugden.
I would like to share the few points that stood out to me:
1. Dharma Protector’s role is to protect the Buddha’s teachings and its religious institutions against adversaries, to preserve the integrity of its
teachings. It will also provide conducive circumstances and methods for practitioners to overcome inner enemies, negative emotions and outer
difficulties.
2. In our belief, Dharmapala are divided into 2 groups: a) supramundane protectors; who are usually emanations of enlightened beings and are
beyond the six-realms of existence, naturally they are higher ranking than those of mundane nature. And, b) mundane protectors; who are
resides within the six-realms of existence.
3. Supramundane protector can appear in 2 forms: a) supramundane form such as Kalarupa, Palden Lhamo, Mahakala, and b) those who
manifest in mundane forms like Setrap, Kache Marpo and Dorje Shugden.
4. Pehar Gyalpo was originally from ancient Persia, he was bound by an oath to protect Tibetan Buddhism by Guru Rinpoche together with
various other spirits. Pehar Gyalpo was installed as the guardian of the first Buddhist monastery in Tibet, Samye monastery.
5. Dorje Dragden is Pehar’s main minister, and through him Pehar began to communicate with the Tibetan government and its subjects through
a medium who became known as the Nechung Oracle.
6. Nechung Oracle is the State Oracles to the Tibetan government. Since the 16th century, State Oracles like Nechung have served as advisors
to the Dalai Lamas and provided counsel on important decisions, especially those that concerned national security or religious expansion.
7. Nechung Oracle has a track record of inaccurate predictions and there is a general belief that the trances by the Nechung Oracle are not really
of Pehar Gyalpo or that Pehar Gyalpo’s pronouncements cannot be relied upon.
8. René de Nebesky-Wojkowitz in his book Oracles and Demons of Tibet gave a clear indication that Pehar Gyalpo, through his many centuries
of serving HHDL, he will achieve full enlightenment no longer stand as the chief of worldly Dharma Protectors. When he step downDorje
Shugden will then take over his role, rising to be the next great protector of our time and the ‘chief Dharmapala of Tibet’ which means that he
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As such, all thies feud that was created for Dorje Shugden is really unnecessary. We should take a step back and realize that Dorje Shugden has
become extremely popular the world over despite the controversy. As the Dalai Lama bans Dorje Shugden, he is still being worshipped in
centers worldwide and especially growing in China. It could be true that Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand-in-hand for the sole
purpose to protect the Dharma, especially the special teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa’s lineage.
Thank you very much Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline for bringing this important piece of teaching to us in an organized and easy to understand
manner.
Humbly, bowing down,

Stella Cheang
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Lucy Yap on May 31, 2016 at 1:59 am
The difference between an unenlightened and enlightened Dharma Protector is the former is a Buddha whereas the latter is not.Dharma
Protectors are much relied upon in the past.Nechung is a worldly being oath-bound by Guru Rinpoche to protect the Dharma.Dorje Shugden is
an enlightened being as He is the emanation of Buddha Manjushri. Nechung was enthrone as state oracle by the 5th Dalai Lama and act
primarily in service to the Tibetan Government.Pronunciations and prophecies of Nechung oracle are unreliable and inaccurate, on the other
hand Dorje Shugden oracles are sought after for their reputation are intact.Although Nechung is unenlightened,he has kept his promise to Guru
Rinpoche for 1,300 years.It is amazing how enlightened minds work as they compliment each another in protecting the Dharma and it’s
practitioners. May Nechung be enlightened and Dorje Shugden’s practice flourish to benefit many. Thank you Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline for
this interesting article.
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Pastor Yek Yee(月谊讲法师) on May 30, 2016 at 1:17 am
很早以前，上师詹仁波切曾送过一本书名叫《西藏的神灵和鬼怪》给我，书裡头记载着护法神和神谕的种种，包括各地区域护法神
的分类、形貌和标志；护法神，真正使命：护卫佛法，维护佛教教义的完善，免受妖魔袭扰。看著这篇文章时即让我想起了封尘了
许久的这本书。
早期在西藏有众多有着强大力量的土神灵，这些土神灵中有些属于性情暴戾，常常持着其神力而欺负当地的人民，并且多方阻挠各
大师进藏弘法。直到以神通着名的莲花生大士镇伏了数位强大的土神灵之后，佛法才得以在雪域之乡迅速发展。当中被莲花生大师
降伏的其中一位强大的土神灵就是来白波斯的白哈尔大神，白哈尔大神被第五世达赖喇嘛供奉在乃琼寺，并封为西藏官方神谕，地
位十分崇高。
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乃琼护法被认为是四大护法之一，其馀三大护法分别为拉穆寺的拉穆护法、噶东寺的噶东护法、桑耶寺的桑耶护法。[3]清朝时，拉
SHUGDEN....
穆护法在寻访活佛的转世灵童过程中起主要作用。[4]担任乃琼护法的神谕喇嘛，居住在乃琼寺中，以转世的方式代代传承，和活佛
相似。乃琼寺的名字中， “乃”即汉语 “地方”， “琼”即汉语 “小”。故乃琼寺指哲蚌寺所属的 “小地方”。
在降神仪式上，降身在神谕身上的通常是他的副手多杰扎登或译“金刚扎登”。达赖喇嘛对白哈尔大神与多杰扎登高度尊重，但是传
统上认为，达赖喇嘛是观世音菩萨的化身，地位高于他们，拥有指挥他们的权力。因此达赖喇嘛不向乃琼护法礼拜，乃琼护法只对
他个人作出建言与提供保护。乃琼謢法会穿着厚重华丽的外衣，以五种颜色代表人的五种光明力量。此外，在庆典中，他还会戴上
重达三十公斤的帽子，表演舞蹈，以展示神明的力量。
从第二世达赖喇嘛开始，乃琼护法即成为达赖喇嘛的个人护法。自第五世达赖喇嘛开始，乃琼护法在西藏政治上佔有重要位置，在
第穆事件和土登贡培事件中均扮演了重要角色。
现在我正在读着詹仁波切博客近期的帖文“Nechung-The Retiring Devil in Tibet ”，这篇文章分成几个不同主题去探讨乃琼与多杰雄登

两大护法的渊缘。由于才学疏浅，只能与大家分享片面的见解，如果我们耐心地把该篇文章读完，肯定让我们对护法和神谕的概念
加深，并且更了解两大护法之间的关係，以及形成禁令的缘由。用心地去看和明白个中內容才不会辜负上师詹仁波切和作者们所付
出的心血。
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Uncle Eddie on May 29, 2016 at 10:56 am
Within the Tibetan Buddhist traditions, the main purpose of an oracle is to provide a direct connection with the protector dieties in order to
receive blessings and prophetic advice, as said in the Article. The history of Tibet’s tradition of oracles traces back to before the arrival of
Buddhism. As said, the tradition of communication between the Gods and humans in Tibet is virtually still practiced up to this day. There were
hundreds of oracles in Tibet and Himalayan highlands originally, but overtime the oracles had become fewer. A Tibetan oracle engages in
specific medictations to purify their psychic channels to gain control of the chakras, and then seal them, so only specific protector beings can
enter in order to take control of the oracle. State oracles like those of Nechung as they are so called, they act primarily in service to the Tibetan
Government; for instance like those searching for the rebirth of the Dalai Lamas. Inspite of holding the respected position of the state oracle, it
is said that the success of an oracle’s reputation depends in his or her efficacy at times of personal and public crisis. Life in the case of how
Dharma protector, Dorje Shugden has helped The Dalai Lama’s escape to take exile in India to save his life, is an immemorable classic example
to take and to follow! The Dalai Lama had made good his escape to India safely, after a 15 day journey on foot from Lhasa, over the Himalayan
mountains, protected by Dorje Shugden through-out the said journey, following Dorje Shugden Prophetical instructions explicitly! However, as
from the exact words from the blog article, “There is absolutely no conflict between these two Protector dieties, as they compliment each other
in protecting the Dalai Lama and the practitioners. The Ban of Dorje Shugden is unneccessary and illogical”. Therefore, the preservation of the
Dharma is most virtual and essential, and has to be achieved at all cost for the benefits of all beings. The ban of Dorje Shugden should be
removed immediately for the sake of all beings. Om Mani Padme Hung.
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tong sun sun on May 28, 2016 at 1:22 pm SHUGDEN....
谢谢仁波切`分享这篇文章让我更了解乃穷和多杰雄登护法的分别，也了解到乃穷在西藏已经有1300 多年历史。而且我终于知道乃穷
是入世间护法而多杰雄登乃是出世间护法，就连祂们降神时都会有入世和出世的分别。例如入世的降神是坐在椅子上，接受蕙供是
以剑接受，向高僧献卡达，降神时面向佛像或法座。而出世的护法刚好相反。总而言之护法是守护教诲而化现也是帮助我们在修持
路上的明灯。
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Pastor Adeline on May 29, 2016 at 12:44 am
很高興這篇文章讓您更了解護法的性質和差別。希望因此讓您對多杰雄登有更大的信心。加油！
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Harold Musetescu on May 28, 2016 at 10:36 am
Unlike Pehar who is unenlightened Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being who manifests as a world protector.
You may not know this put Dorje Shugden CAN MANIFEST at this moment as your YIDAM. At it takes is a formal request from a sincere
student to a highly realized lama or to a Dorje Shugden Oracle. They can then create an empowerment and sadhana practice for all of us to
practice Dorje Shugden as our YIDAM.
In Pastor Patel’s youtube video of “Dorje Shugden and the Tradition of Oracles” the Pastor tells us of when a Dorje Shugden Oracle while in
trance created the “Dorje Shugden Dice Divination”. This divination method was taught to Tsem Rinpoche who uses it as his method of
divination.
Either the Panglung Kuten or the Gameng Kuten could be asked by His Eminence Tsem Tulku to create the wang and sadhana for the Dorje
Shugden Yidam practice. Imagine Tsem Tulku, Trijang Rinpoche, Zasep Rinpoche, Ganchen Rinpoche the Panglung Tulku etc, etc performing
these ceremonies around the world and granting us the Dorje Shugden Yidam practice.
OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
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Julia Tan on May 28, 2016 at 12:56 am
There are many Dharma protectors in Tibet. Nechung is just one of them. During Lama Tsongkhapa time, Duldzin Dragpa Gyaltsen was
requested by Nechung himself to become a Dharma protector to protect Lama Tsongkhapa teaching. It was during TrülkuCLICK Drakpa Gyeltsen
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Dorje Shugden. If Dorje Shugden is a demon, is that mean Nechung requested TDG to become a demon? Then how can SHUGDEN....HHDL make Nechung
the state protector? Why is HHDL still trust him? What’s the real story behind all this? Political issues? What was the damages that Dorje
Shugden created for Dalai Lama and Tibet after all?
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chris chong on May 27, 2016 at 11:13 pm
Dear Rinpoche,
Today we had continued our blog discussion and these are the points that i had learnt that stood out most to me.
1. The 5th Dalai Lama started to be involved in politic when he formed Gaeden Podrang.
2. It was the 5th Dalai Lama who enthroned Nechung oracle as the state oracle for Tibet.
3. Nechung oracle had on a few occasions given unaccurate advices which caused the Lamas to not seek and trust his advice.
4. Nechung oracle is not hereditary unlike Dorje Shugden’s oracle. Most of the Nechung oracle are monks and have no family member to pass
the ability to take trance to.
5.The Oracle regalia is extremely heavy which a normal human being could not move with it easily. This proves that there must be some
powerful forces that is residing in the oracle when he can move like normal with all those weight on the head and body.
Chris
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Datuk May on May 27, 2016 at 11:07 pm
This is a superb illustration how if we do not study and analyse the origins of both Nechung and Dorje Shugden, we can easily fall into the
propaganda of CTA that how Nechung is to be absolute for the Getup tradition being the appointed state oracle. And Dorje Shugden is a demon
and spirit.
Without doubt, Nechung is a pehar, subdued by Guru Rinpoche to protect the Dharma in Tibet and as such is a mundane protector. However, it
was also Nechung who appeared to Dultzin Dragpa Gyeltsen to be a Protector of Tsongkapa’s doctrine and later reminded Tulku Dragpa
Gyaltsun to manifest as Protector Dorje Shugden. This will definitely confirm that these 2 protectors are aligned to be a protector of the
Dharma.
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Thank you Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline for this very interesting article.
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sweekeong on May 27, 2016 at 10:26 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline and the writers for the research on the Tibetan state protector Nechung and in relation to Dorje Shugden. You guys
must have spent countless hours and days to come out with this article. I felt that this is a wealth of information presented in an easy manner for
us to digest. Futhermore the article is written in neutral tone allowing whoever who wants to know about protectors to decide for themselves.
As one read in the article protectors in Tibet are very much relied on in the past. One may think whether protectors can assist us in this modern
technological world? I think they do so after coming contact with protectors. Our material wealth and comfort have increased tremendously but
the distractions increase many folds as well, distractions become obstacles for spiritutal growth. As I learn more I come to understand why
protectors are so effective.
Thank you Rinpoche and the writers team. This is one of the must read article.
Sweekeong.
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Pastor Chia on May 27, 2016 at 9:44 pm
My opinion after read through this article about Nechung protector, did not bring me too much interested about him. Although Nechung is state
protector of Tibet. First of all he show who is it as unenlightened protector quality when he take trance through his oracle. Nechung oracle has
given inaccurate prophecies on a number of occasions, including those pertaining to the health of the 13th Dalai Lama, the British
Younghusband expedition, the returning of Tibetans in exile to Tibet, etc.
Secondly showing not respect to another high lama such Kyebje Ling Rinpoche representative to consult Nechung oracle unlike Dorje Shugden
oracle.
In comparison Nechung and Dorje Shugden protector, Dorje Shugden through Panglung Oracle is well known to have given accurate
prophecies including those relating to the escape of the 14th Dalai Lama to India from Tibet saving H.H. Dalai Lama and others life. Having
said that, His Holiness has instructed ban Dorje Shugden practice these day, but it did not stop people having faith toward enlighten protector
Dorje Shugden has show many kindness and help benefit many people at the past and future.
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Li Kheng on May 27, 2016 at 8:30 pm
So many doubts and controversy shroud Dharma practice these days. From Nechung to Dorje Shugden and from Dalai Lama to Trijang
Rinpoche. It is sad to say that all the volatility stem from our minds. If we recognize that, we may not cause so much harm and impute all our
judgements and expectations on these beings who are devoted to the dharma.
Nechung orchestrated the manifestation of Dorje Shugden in the lifetime of Dultzin dragpa gyeltsen. However he is also recorded to have
caused the premature death of the 13th Dalai Lama. So, is Nechung good or bad? I think this boils down to how we react to him. Similarly, is
Dorje Shugden good or bad depend on the motivation in which we propitiation him. Rinpoche once said that if we pray to a stone with pure and
sincere motivation and view that it is Manjushri, through the motivation, the stone becomes Manjushri simply from the energy we put into it
and invoke upon it. I see this to also apply to people. A person can be your worst enemy but if you see this difficult person as an opportunity to
learn and develop tolerance, an enemy become a supreme teacher as illustrated in the 8 verses of mind transformation.
On the basis of impermanence, there is a time and place and role for all. Instead of attacking and judging, perhaps we should be calm and clear
to reflect on what lesson is there to learn for us to protect and preserve the dharma during this age of degeneration.
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Mingwen on May 27, 2016 at 5:11 pm
By the comparison we have here between Dharma Protectors, Nechung and Dorje Shugden. It can be confirmed that, Dorje Shugden is more
powerful as a Dharma Protector compared to Nechung, as he had gained enlightenment. Dorje Shugden’s prophecies are always accurate
compared to Nechung. To be called a demon or evil spirits, I don’t see Dorje Shugden is one due to his efforts of protecting Dharma which has
benefited all sentient beings long long ago and until now still.
May the practice of the great Dharma Protector, Dorje Shugden be recognised and continue to be flourish, which will definitely benefit more
and more sentient beings.
May the ban of the great Dharma Protector, Dorje Shugden, be lifted.
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Khoo Hou Haw on May 27, 2016 at 4:16 pm
To me the informations stated in the “Nechung and Dorje Shugden” section offers the closest explaination to the situation of the ban of Dorje
Shugden and the inaccurate events of Nechung’s prophecies. Why are all these events happened as such is very hard to explain to us as it was
stated in the Lam Rim that only an enlightened being can see through the karma of sentient being. Perhap our negative karma
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demon for more than 400 years, then what will be the purpose of us taking refuge in the 3 Jewels?
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pammie yap on May 27, 2016 at 4:15 pm
“One reason for the contradiction in Nechung’s statements about Dorje Shugden could be the fact that Nechung is actually working hand-in-
hand with the Dalai Lama on a higher cause to push Dorje Shugden’s practice out into the world. As the Dalai Lama bans Dorje Shugden, the
practice still continues to grow all over the world and especially in China.”
I have read and heard from different sources that Nechung gives wrong advice but after reading the above post, I think its clearer now.
“Working hand in hand.”
It does make sense when I think deeper. After all, it was prophesied that the day Nechung becomes Enlightened, Dorje Shugden will arise as the
next great Dharma protector. So, if Nechung is going to be Enlightened, which means he should have some attainments by now, how can he
harm people especially the Dalai Lamas. And if he did do it on purpose, why would they still consult him and ask for answers. If he is meant to
protect the Dharma, this doesnt make sense. I enjoyed reading this post and having more understanding. Thank you for your hard work.
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Pastor Moh Mei on May 27, 2016 at 4:10 pm
There are great many cultures that used to be common in ancient civilization that have become rare or completely extinct over time.
Modernization is not without sacrifice. In the name of development we have “sacrificed” nature, earth resources, morality, spirituality and
cultural identity. Changes are sometimes necessary and often inevitable.
Knowing the history and origin of oracle help give credence and understanding to the practice, something once common to our forefathers but
viewed as ritualistic or superstitious in the modern era.
The relationship between Nechung and Dorje Shugden that I find very interesting.
1. Pehar was original installed at Samye monastery that was established by King Trisong Detsen who is one of Dorje Shugden’s previous
incarnation.
2. It was Nechung who appeared and request Duldzin Drakpa Gyeltsen to take on the role of a Dharma Protector.
3. Again it was Nechung who reminded Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen about his promise to arise as a Dharma Protector and assisted in the process.
4. The prophecy of the Changing of the Guardians – when Nechung attains enlightenment and ‘leaves’, unlocking the southern gate for Dorje
Shugden to enter.
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Shugden is a demon, why did Nechung did all the above when he was oath bound by Guru Rinpoche to protect Tibetan Buddhism. It is also
illogical for Nechung to attain enlightenment and stepping down as the chief of Protectors, only to open the door for a demon to take his place.
The more logical explanation is that Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand-in-hand for the sole purpose to protect the Dharma.
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yenpin on May 27, 2016 at 1:12 am
感恩上师分享的这片文章，
了解到乃穷已经存在西藏1300年的护法，乃穷是土神灵被莲花生大士降服了而成为护法之，承諾保护佛法。
和世界上许多古代文明一样，神谕现象仍然是藏族生活方式的一个重要部份。藏人为了各种原因而依赖神谕。神谕的目的不仅是为
了预言未来。他们被当作护法，有时被当作信仰治疗者。不过，他们的主要职能是保护佛法及其信徒。
乃穷跟多杰雄登护法有很多相处之处一样是承諾保护佛法。
而且多杰雄登护法是文殊菩萨的化身，也是为了守护佛法，认更多人受益。
多杰雄登禁令，也给佛教和修行者带来伤害，宗教是要走向以逻辑辩证的方式带给人们智慧，好让我们的世界更充满爱和慈悲、能
宽容地接受彼此,禁令早了解除。
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Pastor Henry Ooi on May 27, 2016 at 12:38 am
It is indeed a rare opportunity to witness in person when an oracle takes trance of a dharma protector. Members and friends of Kechara had the
great honour to see and experience the first trance in Kechara Forest Retreat on June 21, 2015. The renown oracle, the 6th Panglung Kuten,
took trance of Dorje Shugden who blessed everyone present, gave prophecies, answered important questions, and gave a dharma talk. This
clearly shows the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden. Another clear indication was the historical account during the time of the Fifth Dalai
Lama, when several high lamas tried in vain to bind or subjugate Dorje Shugden.
More at:
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/700-meet-a-buddha.html
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June Kang on May 27, 2016 at 12:34 am
乃穹护法与多杰雄登护法关系时友时敌，我为什么这么说：
1。在杜固扎巴坚赞还未化身雄登之前，乃穹护法降身提醒他的前世的承诺，即化身位保护宗喀巴大师中观道的护法。乃穹还显现特
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别的状况让杜固扎巴坚赞化身为多杰雄登。过后乃穹护法却降身指出多杰雄登是邪灵。
SHUGDEN....
2.摘自《西藏的神灵与鬼怪》第445页：根据提供资料者，有三个门可以进入该寺没有迴廊的庭院。根据传统，南门(第一道门)关
闭，据说，雄登在这道门的门口等，直到他获准进入该寺院的日子到来。到了那个时候，他将继承白哈尔（或称乃穷），成为西藏
的主要护法。
从达赖喇嘛在世界论坛上的表现，他的智慧已经超越了许多最顶级的学者及顶尖科学家。为何还需要乃穹？
所以我更相信所有所发生的是走向更崇高的目标，让更多人认识及了解多杰雄登护法。
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June Kang on May 27, 2016 at 12:25 am
乃穹护法与多杰雄登护法关系时友时敌，我为什么这么说：
1。在杜固扎巴坚赞还未化身雄登之前，乃穹护法降身提醒他的前世的承诺，即化身位保护宗喀巴大师中观道的护法。乃穹还显现特
别的状况让杜固扎巴坚赞化身为多杰雄登。过后乃穹护法却降身指出多杰雄登是邪灵。
2.摘自《西藏的神灵与鬼怪》第445页：根据提供资料者，有三个门可以进入该寺没有迴廊的庭院。根据传统，南门(第一道门)关
闭，据说，雄登在这道门的门口等，直到他获准进入该寺院的日子到来。到了那个时候，他将继承白哈尔（或称乃穷），成为西藏
的主要护法。
从达赖喇嘛在世界论坛上的表现，他的智慧已经超越了许多最顶级的学者及顶尖科学家。为何还需要乃穹？
所以我更相信所有所发生的是走向更崇高的目标- 让更多人认识及了解多杰雄登护法。
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Yoke Chim Yap on May 26, 2016 at 11:49 pm
感恩上师分享的这篇文章，让我进一步了解Nec hung 护法与多杰雄登护法有许多共同之处外但又有一些不一样，相同之处 ~ 例如 :同

样都是为守护佛法而成护法，也是有五个化现 (跟多杰雄登很類似）不同之处是 Nechung 原本是土神灵，被莲花生大士降服了而成为
护法，而多杰雄登却是一位高僧为了信受承諾守护宗喀巴大师的教誨而化现，而 Nechung 是入世间护法，多杰雄登是出世间护法，
已脱離六道輪迴，更何况祂也是文殊菩萨的化身之一，除了守护佛法，也为世人带来希望与帮助。未来的世界会更混亂，人心迷
失，物慾至上，我们確是非常需要一位护法守护身边，为我们指引走上正途、不至於迷失本性！愿「雄登」禁令速速解除，造福世
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Chris Chong on May 26, 2016 at 10:27 pm
Dear Rinpoche ,
We had a discussion on this topic today and we only managed to do it half way because of time constraints. This is the five things that I had
learnt that stood out most to me.
1. Nechung is a worldy spirit known as Pehar Gyalpo which was subdued by Guru Rinpoche to serve Buddha Dharma.
2. Nechung has 5 forms that represents his body, speech, mind, activity and qualities.
3. In the full oracle regalia, there is a ring that stores the mind of the oracle when Nechung enters into his body.
4. The form of Nechung that enters the oracle is the speech form which rides on a mule.
5. Nechung had played a very important role in the Tibetan government by giving advises on important state matters and also locating Dalai
Lama’s reincarnation.
Humbly,
Chris
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Harold Musetescu on May 26, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Hello Beng,
Thank you for your reply below on the validity of the Gadong Oracle. I should point out that the most recent Gadong Oracle was officially
recognized on July 25,1987 by the 14th Dalai Lama. This was roughly 9 years before the ban on Dorje Shugden and yet the Gadong Oracle
never spoke once while in trance. You claim that he never spoke in trance from 1987 until his death in 2015 for fear of being FIRED AS A
STATE ORACLE for speaking out against the Dalai Lama and his CTA. It would not be the Oracle speaking out against them by the deity
“Shinjachin”. If he was truly in trance he would be unaware of what was going on and would only find out about Shinjachen’s proclamations
after he awoke from his trance. But the question I put forward was HOW could he be declared to be the Gadong Oracle when any simple test
would have shown that he was incapable of going into trance and having “SHINJACHEN” SPEAK THOROUGH HIM WHILE IN TRANCE.
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CindyH on May 26, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline and team for the wealth of information and facts in this article about Nechung and the interplay with Dorje Shugden.
Whilst I believe the focus of the article is more to deepen understanding about both protectors, but upon reading the facts stated, one can’t help
but to see how politics has deeply infiltrated spiritual matters. Take for example the inconsistency with the ban on Dorje Shugden practice.
Dorje Shugden is banned on the basis that it is an unenlightened “spirit” but we see heavy reliance on Nechung (generally accepted to be
unenlightened too) by Dalai Lama and CTA on national matters impacting so many lives. Why is one outright banned whilst the other continues
to receive so much care, attention and chances from the Dalai Lama and CTA? The Dalai Lama has even gone on record about his issues with
dealing the “unstable” Nechung but yet the consultation continues. And the consultations still continue despite so many wrong predictions. On
the other hand, Dorje Shugden who has not harmed anyone in any way and has a clean record of accurate predictions thus far, is being “stamped
out” by the very people who benefited from Dorje Shudgen’s advice. As if it is not puzzling enough for a government to only take action upon
consultation or divination in this day and age, the continuous reliance on something that is proving to be quite unreliable and doesn’t appear to
serve its purpose, is just plain bizarre…unless one takes into account that there are hidden agendas at play.
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Beng on May 26, 2016 at 6:49 pm
This is a very important read because the Nechung and the State Oracles are central to the Tibetan religious and political decision making
process. So much faith is placed upon their every single world and their prophecies are quoted as the basis for questionable and unpopular
policies.
Yet, how many people really know that the Nechung State Oracle has been giving inaccurate advice that has resulted in the death of the 13th
Dalai Lama and would have caused the death of the 14th Dalai Lama? How many people know that the Tenma Oracle Khandro-la has given
inaccurate prophecies that pander to H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama’s wishes? The same can also be said for the Gadong oracle yet it remains a fact
that the State Oracles are held in extremely high regard despite taking trances of unelightened beings in whom we cannot take refuge.
I enjoyed reading this article as it left me with more information to make an informed and educated conclusion regarding the messy Dalai
Lama-Dorje Shugden affair from the perspective of the worldly protector Nechung who was the first to give the advice that Dorje Shugden
practice was harmful. If we are going to believe a worldly spirit over an enlightened being, what is the world coming to?
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nicholas on May 26, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Thanks a lot Pastor Adeline for this post. It give a great explanation about Dharma protector. It’s important for us to understand the different
between enlightened and non enlightened dharma protector. In this case between Nechung (non-enlightened protector) which was subdued by
Guru Rinpoche and bound by an oath to protect Tibetan Buddhism and Dorje Shugden arose as a protector after the untimely demise of Tulku
Drakpa Gyeltsen.
For me this is a very important point that most of the people claiming Dorje Shugden as a spirit and would rather just believe in Nechung. From
the fact that if Dorje Shugden is a spirit why Mindroling Lama unable to subdue him and make him a protector just like Nechung. For obvious
reason Dorje Shugden must be enlightened himself, therefore he cannot be subdued by rituals as the power of a Buddha cannot be used against
another Buddha, as they are of the same and equal state which is complete enlightenment.
There are lot more facts that table out in this articles that worth for many people out there read to understand about Nechung and Dorje Shugden
as a protector.
There is no competition between these 2 protector as Nechung as spirit before which being subdued and bound by oath to protect Tibetan
Buddhism and the arose of Dorje Shugden which is to protect the teaching of Lama Tsongkhapa which in general both are protecting the
Buddha dharma. What important is we learn about them and follow what our Lama advice.
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Doreen Teoh on May 27, 2016 at 10:04 am
Dear Nicholas,
I also have the same thought about the statement that you mentioned on the importance of to understand the different between
enlightened and non enlightened dharma protector. In this case between Nechung (non-enlightened protector) which was subdued by
Guru Rinpoche and bound by an oath to protect Tibetan Buddhism and Dorje Shugden arose as a protector a protector of Lama
Tsongkhapa’s teachings. Both protectors have similar objective, as Dorje Shugdne have a specific function to protect a ‘precious
teachings – Lama Tsongkhapa’s ‘ as this practice will benefits all levels of practitioner, (or worldwide) as this teachings is the most
simple, easiest prayers for the modern times (this era of degenerate times), as for Nechung, his objective is looking at internal/domestic
times in Tibet. As mentioned, both are protecting the Buddha Dharma but at a different scope and level. So, why is Dorje Shugden
practice is ban not Nechung?
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From my opinion, as you have said Lama Tsongkhapa’s teaching is the most simple, easiest prayers for the modern times at this era
of degenerate times. This may be what Nechung saw during the time when he ask Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen to be the Protector of the
uncommon Gaden lineage to protect this teaching ‘particularly’ as it will help many people in future.
In this case the answer will be similar to the No. 5 of the Question and Answer from this article. Due to the important of Lama
Tsongkhapa teaching that able to help the people at this time, Dorje Shugden practice is crucial as a Protector. As the Dalai Lama
bans Dorje Shugden is for a higher cause to push Dorje Shugden’s practice out into the world and continues to grow all over the
world.
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Candice Loke on May 26, 2016 at 10:11 am
Thank you Pastor Adeline and the team for this well written research on Nechung and its implication on the surrounding controversy on the ban
of Dorje Shugden.
After reading it, everything seems very clear to me – why the falsely given divinations by Nechung, accusation made on Dorje Sudden by
Nechung and etc, the divine play had been so well orchestrated for Dorje Shugden to arise as the Dharma protector/ world peace protector of
our degenerate time, and for the practice of DS to be widely spread throughout the world.
Undoubtedly, after HH the 14th Dalai Lama has officially ban the practice of DS, protector Lord Dorje Shugden has become more well known
than before. But at the same time, the ban has brought so much sufferings to practitioners. So much harms have been done, please with folded
hands, Your Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, please remove the ban, please grant practitioners the due right to practice Dorje Shugden openly.
Sincerely yours,
Candice Loke
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Pastor Adeline on May 29, 2016 at 12:35 am
Dear Candice,
Thank you for your comment.

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Nechung is bound under oath by Guru Rinpoche and committed to protect the Tibetan Buddhism. Having a harmful nature,
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Leadership continue to consult him surprisingly. Most of the Nechung oracles are known to have not done a good job, had tainted samaya
and vows. On the contrary, the Panglung oracles are known to have clean samaya and hold their vows well, hence the accurate prophecies
for His Holiness’ escape and more.
In the history of Tibet, apart from the Tibet Leadership and His Holiness the Dalai Lama, no other high lamas would seek advice from
Nechung which reason is too obvious to be ignored. Perhaps this is part of the divine play for reasons we are unable to comprehend
especially for listening to Nechung’s advice to ban the Dorje Shugden practice. I agree that this action has brought Dorje Shugden to the
international stage and also the sufferings caused by the ban. Divine play is one thing, suffering is another. Suffering is real and very
unnecessary for being loyal to the Guru’s advice and Protector.
The ban must be lifted and we need your support to do so!
Thank you,
Pastor Adeline
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Sharon Ong on May 25, 2016 at 12:37 am
Ever since I learnt about protectors, I have always wanted to know more about Nechung as HH the 14th Dalai Lama, the world’s most
recognised Buddhist figure, relies on this protector. I thank Pastor Adeline and everyone involved for this good read as many of my questions
about Nechung have been addressed in this article.
I find it very interesting to note the relationship between Nechung and Dorje Shugden especially this bit – Thupten Kunchok, the Nechung
Rinpoche, was also a Dorje Shugden practitioner.
The table comparing the 2 protectors is a really good idea as it made it easier for people like me to digest and understand.
Thank you.
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Pastor David Lai on May 24, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Researching and reading about Nechung never fails to make me wonder about his true nature. There are many statements about Nechung being
emanations of the 5 Dhyani Buddhas, which was mentioned in Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s text even. Then, he goes aboutCLICK
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Then, he goes about to Lama Tsongkhapa’s teachings and had the tremendous foresight to see that his special teachings would require a
protector and requested Dulzin to become this protector. Centuries later, his oracles had been established in Tibet as the state oracles and had
been alternating between accurate and beneficial pronouncements and prophecies and those that are totally inaccurate and utter nonsense.
One might argue that it is not Nechung who is taking trance as there are rumors that it might be an impostor spirit, Nyatrul. Whatever it is, the
credibility of the Nechung oracle is strongly in question now. How come Nechung remains the state oracle that is obvious a unreliable spirit and
Dorje Shugden continues to be villainized and outlawed. On the other hand, Dorje Shugden oracles are known to be highly accurate and
therefore, highly sought after.
Whatever it is, it would be interesting to see what happens to the Nechung state oracle after the time of the current Dalai Lama has come to
pass. One thing is certain, the fate of the Nechung oracle is linked to the Dalai Lamas. As the importance of the Dalai Lama as a political leader
wanes, so too would be the importance placed on the Nechung oracle.
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William Chua on May 24, 2016 at 7:47 pm
This is really a great read and I now have a better understanding of Nechung. Previously I only know that he is the worldly protector that the
Dalai Lama consults. Thank you Pastor Adeline for the research and in depth information on this article.
The question remains that why would the Dalai Lam continues to consult Nechung when it has proven at times the results/prophecies are not
accurate and cause more harm than good? No doubt that the relationship between the Dalai Lama and Nechung goes a long way but if Nechung
is inaccurate, maybe the Dalai Lama should change to use another oracle. And the CTA consults Nechung for state affairs!!! Maybe Nechung
should go for early retirement so that Dorje Shugden can take over as the Great Protector of our time.
However, what I really like is that Nechung and Dorje Shugden is working hand in hand to spread the Dharma. Because of this, the Dharma is
growing at an accelerated rate.
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Pastor Han Nee on May 24, 2016 at 4:33 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline for this informative and well-researched article on the official Protector of the Tibetan government , Nechung. I do
agree that Nechung and Dorje Shugden are working hand-in-hand for the sole purpose of protecting the Dharma, especially the special
teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa’s lineage.
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Also it would appear that Nechung is working hand-in-hand with the Dalai Lama for the greater cause of the spread of Dharma via the spread of
Shugden practice in China. As Glen Muller says “In recent decades the present Dalai Lama has attempted to discourage the practice, but with
little success. It is as strong today as ever, if not stronger; for with the Dalai Lama discouraging it in India, the Chinese are fully promoting it in
Tibet.”
The puzzle is why the Nechung oracle declared Dorje Shugden a spirit , catapulting all into this huge controversy and the ban , if the 5th Dalai
Lama had already unsuccessfully tried to destroy or subjugate Shugden with a jinsek fire puja.
However, I believe the mistakes made by Nechung (even if some of them had or could have potentially fatal consequences if they had been
followed – such as Nechung’s advice to HH the 14th Dalai Lama to stay on in Lhasa, when the Chinese were already invading Tibet) can be
seen as his way of paving his retirement and for Dorje Shugden to take over as the Protector of this age. Dorje Shugden in trance has always
given correct prophecies. A famous one was when he urged the Dalai Lama to escape from Tibet immediately and guided him and entourage
and family to safety.
What I don’t understand is why the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government should continue to consult Nechung and trust his prophecies and
predictions, despite all the mistakes.
One very clear evidence that Dorje Shugden is an Enlightened Protector and indeed an emanation of Manjushri is that when Dorje Shugden
takes trance in his peaceful form in the Gaden oracles, he teaches various scriptures, gives transmissions and initiations. Nechung, being a
mundane Protector who had arisen as a Protector, after being subjugated by Guru Rinpoche, can only give prophecies and pronouncements
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Carmen Koo on May 24, 2016 at 12:48 am
Thank you very much, Pastor Adeline, for this well researched paper which highlights so much regarding Nechung, the oracular system, the
history of Nechung Oracles etc. It is very informative, comprehensive and well-researched.
It is clear that there is a huge difference between Dorje Shugden and Nechung, in their clairvoyance (as Dorje Shugden is fully enlightened, and
Nechung is not), and thus accuracy of advices/prediction during trance.
As the Tibetan Administration and Anti Shugden support groups continue to label Dorje Shugden as a spirit worship, it is clear that Dorje
Shugden arose from the untimely demise of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen, a highly accomplished lama, and it is clear from the actions when Dorje
Shugden takes trance, of his “status”. Whereas, the State Oracle of Tibet, was a spirt, oath bound by Guru Rinpoche to protect Tibetan
Buddhism. Therefore, before the Tibetan Leadership, Anti Shugden groups and His Holiness calls Dorje Shugden a spirit, they should infact
read into the biographies and history of how these two Dharma Protectors arose, because their own state oracle, was a spirit himself.
Also, when Dorje Shugden Oracle takes trance of Dorje Shugden as compared to when the Nechung oracle takes trance, how DS is received,
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the Dharma talks and initiation DS gives, receiving the tsok with a Vajra & Bell, shows the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden. So how can
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people still say that Dorje Shugden is a spirit when clearly, everything that DS is proves otherwise. In trance, Dorje Shugden oracle sits on a
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throne, while Nechung oracle sits on a chair. Additionally, lamas make offerings to Dorje Shugden, while as written in the 14th Dalai Lama’s
autobiography Freedom in Exile, “There follows an interchange between Nechung and myself, where he makes ritual offerings to me. I then ask
any personal questions I have for him. After replying, he returns to his stool and listens to questions put by members of the Government.”
All evidences logically show the enlightened nature of Dorje Shugden, as compared with Nechung, so it is baffling that the Tibetan
Administration still relies on Nechung after his many inaccuracies, and can still insist that Dorje Shugden is a spirit.
Carmen
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Sock Wan on May 24, 2016 at 12:24 am
Thank you Pastor Adeline for writing such an extensive article on Nechung Oracle. It is nice to know that in the past Nechung Oracle also
practiced Dorje Shugden and there was no conflict between the two. It is sad that since 20 years ago, Dorje Shugden was accused of being a
spirit and a ban was imposed on DS practice on the basis of some very weak reasons. One of the reason is that DS practice will shorten His
Holiness’s life, but considering His Holiness is now 80 years old, this accusation is not true at all. Besides, if Dorje Shugden is really a spirit,
why can’t a high lama or a group of high lamas subdue him just like how Guru Rinpoche subdued Nechung?
What is more interesting is according to the book , it is said that Nechung will be passing the seat to Dorje Shugden! So Dorje Shugden the
enlightened protector is to take over Nechung’s job when He becomes fully enlightened. – “The southern gate (no. 1 on the diagram) is held
closed in accordance with an old tradition that the chokyong Dorje Shugden is waiting at this entrance for the day to come on which he will be
allowed to enter the monastery, to succeed Pehar as the chief dharmapala of Tibet…” page 445, Oracles and Demons of Tibet: The Cult and
Iconography of the Tibetan Protective Deities.
It seems to be so confusing what is going on with Nechung and Dorje Shugden, but as a Dharma practitioner, we should listen and follow the
instructions of our gurus. After all, all attainments come from our gurus.
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Justin Cheah on May 24, 2016 at 12:10 am
Thank you Pastor Adeline and team for the very detailed explanation about Nechung the Protector. With deep respect to His Holiness The Dalai
Lama, i always wonder why HH will still consult Protector Nechung even though there were glaring ‘prediction mistakes’ made in the past. I
always think maybe the predictions and instructions are meant to be correct but it was not being carried out as per instructed or the mistakes
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Su Ming on May 23, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Thank you Pastor Adeline for such a comprehensive and yet easy to understand article. And with this information, I am able to apply while
defending my lama, Tsem Rinpoche online as the information provided is back up with a lot of research and also findings.
The first thing which hit me when I read this article was Nechung is a mundane protector ie spirit which was bound by Guru Rinpoche whereas
Dorje Shugden is a super mundane portector ie enlightened and yet today, Dorje Shugden is classified as a demon by many tibetan leaders/CTA.
Maybe they should all read this article before coming out with more statements about Dorje Shugden.
What amazes me after reading this article is the possibilities of how both these protector are working hand in hand in spreading of the dharma.
Cause that makes more sense to me more after being involved in this controversy. Whatever it is, the results & goal matters the most.
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Jerry_Sito on May 23, 2016 at 10:19 pm
感谢仁波切的分享与教诲
在问题与解答的那第一部分，关于多杰雄登护法与乃穷护法的分别列表中，最让我我惊讶的发现是，原来乃穷护法那是被莲花生大
师收伏而保护佛法的，然而多杰雄登护法确是由文殊菩萨所化先的护法，并且在许多的法会供养仪式上，就已经能够充分的表现
出，多杰雄登护法比乃穷护法来得备受僧侣尊重的（比如接受供养的方式）。
而且多杰雄登护法更是得到第11世达赖尊者与道光皇帝认证为证悟的护法，同时也得到第五世达赖尊者造下祈愿文与造下多杰雄登
护法佛像，在文章中还有提到一个很有逻辑的部分是，乃穷护法乃是被莲花生大师所收伏成为护法的，那么为什么达赖尊者（观世
音菩萨的化身与慈悲的力量）就不能够收伏多杰雄登成为护法呢？亦或是还有其他的原因，比如多杰雄登护法是文殊菩萨的化身，
文殊菩萨与观音菩萨都是同等的，所以并没有谁收伏谁的可能性… …
乃穷护法在给予预言上曾出现许次错误，然而多杰雄登护法却没有，并且多杰雄登护法给予祝福与加持帮助了现世达赖尊者出离了
西藏，造就了藏人行政中央政府（CTA)的成立，那么到底是多杰雄登护法伤害了西藏人民，还是造就了一个藏人行政中央政府给予
西藏人民？
感谢仁波切的分享多杰雄登护法与乃穷护法的关系，让我们能够更加深入的了解两位护法的分别性，同样是西藏佛教的护法，同样
与宁玛，与达赖尊者有着密不可分的关系，那么为什么达赖尊者为什么会用如此不同的方式来对待两位护法呢？我深信达赖尊者是
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Jace Chong on May 23, 2016 at 12:23 am
Thanks Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline for a well compilation and informative writing on Nechung.
It’s very interesting to read about how enlighten beings and Dharma protectors are working hand-in-hand, preparing a long path to preserve
BuddhaDharma. With the Dorje Shugden’s ban going on and more people start questioning the logic of the ban, this might be the transition
period for a bigger picture.
Salute to the great compassion actions that they have done for the betterment for the future generations, which we will be incarnated to there
soon.
The Dorje Shugden’s ban must be lifted soon in order to clear the confusion and doubts, and proceed to the next stage where people appreciate
true Dharma.
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Jace Chong on May 27, 2016 at 2:28 am
After a discussion with my Dharma brothers and sisters today, I found that this article also raises an important point that, Nechung
created many conditions that actually it’s preparation for Dorje Shugden to reach more in the future.
The “inaccuracy” that manifested by Nechung could be a way diverting the practitioners to the enlighten protector, Dorje Shugden. If we
trace back the history that how Dorje Shugden arises because of Nechung’s request, the concept of The Divine Play makes a lot of sense.
May Nechung enters enlightenment soon and can’t wait for the South Gate to open!
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Fong on May 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm
Wow, what an interesting conversation going on here. To me, the comparison of the two Protectors, in a side by side format is very good to help
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Moreover, the various sources of information quoted convinced me that this is not something cooked up by a single individual but are from
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authenticated sources.
It is clear from the accounts that Dorje Shugden had the help of Nechung to arise and that there is a close relationship between Nechung and
Dorje Shugden. It is also clear that if Dorje Shugden had wanted to harm the Dalai Lama, he would have done it a very long time ago. Even if
he is not a Buddha, he would have some kind of clairvoyance and seen what would be happening in a short period of less than a hundred years.
As such, Dorje Shugden, if he so wanted, would not have advised the Dalai Lama to escape from Tibet much less give assistance in the process.
Thank you, Pastor Adeline and all involved in this article for sharing it with the rest of us.
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Joy Kam on May 16, 2016 at 9:04 am
Thank you Pastor Adeline and all those involved in this post for a very comprehensive blog post on Nechung. I don’t think there is another one
like this out there. What I really like most is the comparison chart between Nechung and Dorje Shugden, an unenlightened and a enlightened
Dharma Protector.
It is most interesting to know that Nechung who calls himself the “devil” could be subdued and made into a dharma protector yet how come
Dorje Shugden could not be subdued since the Tibetan Leadership says he is a “spirit”?
It is also an interesting read about how when the time comes for Nechung to retire after collecting tremendous amounts of merit which propels
him to become an “enlightened” protector, Dorje Shugden will enter through the southern gate to succeed Nechung as the Chief Dharma
Protector of Tibet. If really Dorje Shugden was an evil spirit that is sectarian, then why would such accounts be prophesied and mentioned?
Why then did Nechung even appeared to Duldzin asking him to manifest as a Dharma Protector to safe guard the teachings? This is the part the
Tibetan Leadership purposely forgets to mentioned.
I really like this blog post and will definitely return to study up more the sections which I miss this first time reading. Excellent research, very
comprehensive, and so convenient as everything we need to know about Nechung is all here.
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Pastor Niral Patel on May 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm
Thank you to Pastor Adeline and the Team for this extremely informative and well-researched blog post. I have always wanted to know more
about Nechung since he is so involved with the arising of the great protector Dorje Shugden but have never come across a comprehensive
source of information about the practice.
This post really provides very good information about the practice of Nechung and has answered so many of my questions given the current
political climate in regards to the Nechung Oracle’s pronouncements that Dorje Shugden’s practice is a malevolent one. ICLICK
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This post really clears up questions i had by providing logical scenarios, the first that the being entering the Nechung oracle is not Dorje
Dragden but a malignant spirit. To me this does not seem plausible as high lamas such as His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the other great
masters who consult him, would surely recognise that this being is not Dorje Shugden. The second, and more plausible, is that Dorje Dragden is
manifesting this in order to spread the practice of Dorje Shugden far and wide. In this case, what ever side is taken, either pro- or anti-Dorje
Shugden, the result is the same ultimately, the practice of the holy Buddhadharma.
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Pastor Patel why would you only look at the Nechung Oracle having an evil demon inside him. Why not look at the possibility that he is
totally corrupt and was faking a trance.
It is well know that in the past many oracles would fake a trance in exchange for money, property or increased status.
The now deceased Lamo Tsangpa Oracle (3rd highest state oracle) did this in 1996. He twice went into trance for the Dalai Lama and the
CTA and denounced Dorje Shugden. Lamo Tsangpa takes trance of Tsangpa Karpo and Tsangpa Karpo is the peaceful emanation of
SETRAP. It was SETRAP who saved Dorje Shugden from death at the hands of Mindrolling Rinpoche’s fire puja. It was SETRAP that
helped lead Dorje Shugden to his home with the SAKYA sect. Show how could Lamo Tsangpa in 1996 condemn Dorje Shugden when it
was his wrathful emanation Setrap who saved Dorje Shugden from death. The Lamo Tsangpa Oracle did not go into a trance but only
pretended to. Why would he lie to the Dalai Lama and the CTA? How about they pay his salary and have made him a Deputy Minister in
the CTA. If he does not SAY what they want him to SAY he will lose his JOB FOR LIFE.
So maybe just maybe the Nechung Oracle is just as corrupt as the now deceased (2003)Lamo Tsangpa Oracle. One last point on the Lamo
Tsangpa Orace and that is his Oracle lineage is a FAMILY LINEAGE PASSED FROM FATHER TO SON. Since his death in 2003 none
of his four sons has been possessed by TSANGPA KARPO.
In 13 years no new Lamo Tsangpa Oracle MAYBE JUST MAYBE THE FAMILY LINEAGE IS NOW DECEASED. TSANGPA
KARPO’S REVENGE?????
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Pastor Niral Patel on May 15, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Dear Harold,
Thank you for your comment. I do accept that this could be a possibility. But there are some points to consider when thinking about
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as i can tell from my limited research. This would necessarily suggest that the advice given by the oracle was respected by both
lamas who practiced Dorje Shugden and those who did not. In fact back then this differentiation did not exist, it was simple a
cohesive group of lamas. If this was the case then it suggests that the Tsangpa oracles was indeed taking correct trance. I have not
come across accounts that question the authenticity of the Tsangpo oracle from before the ban. So what i write is based on limited
knowledge of this particular oracle.
Given this, according to your comment, it is plausible that the perhaps the ability of the oracle to take trance degenerated, therefore
Tsangpa Karpo no longer took trance of the oracle. It is then a possibility that the Tsangpo oracle could not have been take trance of
deity. If this was the case, then both our ideas could have been possible, eg. that he was taking trance of a vengeful spirit or that the
trances were indeed fake. Both are possible, however i am not in a position to judge which, as i do not have enough knowledge to
correct ascertain which is true, nor do i have the attainments to see directly.
As for the hereditary lineage of the Tsangpo oracle, you are right in stating that Lamo Tsangpo has not manifested another oracle as
of yet. The late oracle Tsewang Namgyal, does have family but Lamo Tsangpo has not manifested in any of them yet. I have heard
it said that protectors will not manifest oracles when they are unhappy with current situations amongst practitioners or if the causes
to have an oracle are destroyed through inappropriate behaviours.
However it could also be that Lamo Tsangpo is waiting for the correct vessel. While the lineage has been hereditary up until this
point, it is not necessary that the oracle has to manifest within this particular family lineage.
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Dear Harold,
I do not fully get your point that you are trying to convey to Pastor Niral. The idea about this article is to focus on Nechung and so
its not surprising that Pastor Niral spoke in the context of Nechung oracle. Anyway, what you said about the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle
is interesting and indeed very sad that he spoke against Dorje Shugden. You are suggesting that it could be a corrupted trance.
I think that is very possible but then again, we might not fully understand the minds of these beings as they could be working
together with the Dalai Lama on a bigger, grander scheme of things we may not fully understand. It may not necessarily be a fake
trance. At this point, it is only up to speculation about what is the real reasons behind all these things. But one thing is for sure, if
were to rely on oracles, it is best to rely on an oracle with a reputation to be accurate like that of Dorje Shugden.
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Hello Pastor Natel,
A follow up on the questions of State Oracles and this one is on the Gadong Oracle. How does someone get declared by the
14th Dalai Lama to be the second highest State Oracle and never SPEAK in trance in 29 years?
The Gadong Oracle is the second highest State Oracle just behind the Nechung and just ahead of Lamo Tsangpa who is the
third highest.
The most recent Gadong Oracle was Tenzin Wangdak who passed away on August 09, 2015. The Gadong Oracle like the
Lamo Tsangpa Oracle was a family lineage of Oracles where it was passed down from father to son.
The Gadong Oracle was taken trance by the deity “Shinjachen”. Shinjachen is an emanation of the Pehar who guards the
southern area of the Pehar mandala. The Nechung guards the western area.
Tenzin Wangdak’s biography is that from 1972 until 1980 he as a “Secretary” in the CTA’s Kashag. From 1980 until 1986 he
was the “Assistant Secretary in the Dalai Lama’s Private Office”. Finally from 1986 until his death in 2015 he was “Official
Recognized by the 14th Dalai Lama as the Gadong Oracle”.
In 29 years as the second highest State Oracle the Gadong never SPOKE WHILE IN TRANCE. Please go to youtube and
type in “The Oracle-Keeper of Wisdom” and watch this documentary on the State Oracles of Tibet. At around the 29:30
minute mark you will see the Gadong Oracle speak about his total lack of ability to have Shinjachen SPEAK through him
while in so called trance.
Also on youtube check out Tsem Rinpoche’s talk on “Taking Trances”. In it he tells all about what a person must do to
become and “Official Oracle (Kuten). The last part of this TEST is for the Lama to watch his student take trance of the Deity
and to ensure it is the Deity and not some false demon pretending to be the Deity. Only after all these tests are successfully
passed does the Lama issue a sealed document declaring the person to be an Oracle.
Since the Gadong never SPOKE WHILE IN TRANCE how could any Lama let alone the 14th Dalai Lama declare this man
to be a State Oracle.
Also in “The Oracle-Keeper of Wisdom” you will also see the Gadong Oracle state that the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle never
spoke until 1988.
So Pastor Natel we know the Nechung was corrupted and now we see the Gadong Oracle never spoke while in so called
trance. Finally the Lamo Tsangpa Oracle we now know was also corrupted. What a telling indictment of the three highest
State Oracles of Tibet.
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Hi Harold,
What you say about the Gadong Oracle not speaking is true. I have heard this directly from other lamas who were of
the opinion that the Gadong Oracle is a true oracle. However, they have a different opinion from you as to why.
I was told that the Gadong Oracle is in fact a true and good oracle, and the reason he does not speak
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he remains silent. Yet, he actually has the ability to speak in trance and has demonstrated this fact during a trance with
H.H. Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang present.
I wondered why the Gadong Oracle would not speak against the Dalai Lama and my only conclusion (based on the
assumption that he is a real oracle) is that if he went against the Tibetan leadership, they would just declare him to be
false and appoint another oracle in his place. So, by remaining as one of the state oracles and remaining silent, it is at
least one voice out of three not speaking against Dorje Shugden,
Of course, this would imply that the other state oracles are faking their trances and giving false prophecies. I have
heard this from other lamas as well. There are only 3 possible conclusions here:
1. The oracles are real but taking trance of a being with ill intentions. Therefore, incorrect pronouncements are given
with the intention to create harm. In the case of the 13th Dalai Lama’s death, it would be the most likely scenario.
2. The oracles are faking their trances and giving prophecies that comply with the wishes of the Tibetan leadership in
return for material rewards and recognition. This would possibly be applicable in the case of recognising the young
Indian girl as an oracle, or when making predictions about the resurgence of Tibetan independence.
3. The oracles are real and taking trance of their rightful deities and are giving incorrect pronouncements as part of a
higher plan to work towards a beneficial future. This may be the case in the Dorje Shugden situation since Nechung
was the one who created the necessary conditions for Dorje Shugden to arise. So why would he change his mind over
300 years later?
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Harold Musetescu on May 14, 2016 at 6:20 pm
Dorje Shugden will become the new State Oracle and Protector of Tibet when the 14th Dalai Lama dies. There will be two 15th Dalai Lamas
one from Tibet and one from India. The Tibetan 15th Dalai Lama will be the true DL chosen by the Gold Urn method by the pro Dorje Shugden
Chinese Goverment. The Indian DL will be anti Dorje Shugden and will continue oppressing not only followers of DS but all his people as this
14th DL continues to do. The reincarnated pro Dorje Shugden Tibetan 15th Dalai Lama will make DS the new official State Protector of Tibet.
He will also enthrone a new Dorje Shugden State Oracle who will replace the Nechung Oracle. Now the Pehar will be able to retire and Dorje
Shugden can now replace him. The Tibetan 15th Dalai Lama will spread the teaching of Dorje Shugden through out Tibet and the world.
Imagine a future Tibet with a pro Dorje Shugen Dala Lama, a Dorje Shugden State Oracle and Dorje Shugden as the official State Protector of
Tibet. All we must do now is await the death of the 14th Dalai Lama so that the new Tibetan 15th Dalai Lama may reincarnate.
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Dear Harold,
Whilst I do not look forward to the passing of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, what you predicted may very well come to pass.
That Dorje Shugden will one day soon (if that day is not already here) assume the role of State Protector of Tibet, was prophesied in the
old scriptures that René Nebesky-Wojkowitz reported in ‘Oracles and Demons of Tibet’. The book was published in 1956, way before the
Shugden issue was politicised, and therefore we can take it that the prophesy is authentic and free of manipulation.
Whilst the book is silent on when exactly Dorje Shugden will assume that mantle, we cannot dismiss the strong possibility that that day is
already overdue. Since the time of the 13th Dalai Lama, the Nechung oracle has consistently given the wrong advice – wrong re the
Younhusband expedition; wrong re the 13th Dalai Lama’s medication; wrong to advise the 14th Dalai Lama to remain in Tibet in 1959
(the strong advice for the Dalai Lama to leave Tibet was given by Dorje Shugden upon consultation by Trijang Dorjechang); wrong in his
numerous predictions of the Tibetan people regaining their country from China, and certainly wrong in his advice for the Tibetan people
to abandon Dorje Shugden.
We can conclude from these grievous errors that either Nechung is manifesting mistakes so that the people will turn to Dorje Shugden
(after all, Nechung was always an ally to Dorje Shugden) or that the Nechung oracle is taking trance of something apart from Pehar/Dorje
Dragden. In any case, it is a frightening prospect for the CTA to keep resorting to ‘Nechung’ for advice and instructions.
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Dear Martin, you stated two possible conclusions. The third is that the Nechung Oracle is working with the Dalai Lama and the
CTA. His trances are fake and he is following their party line. The Nechung is in their employ and his rate, status, power,
monastery and his position as a Deputy Minister in the CTA all flow from the CTA via the Dalai Lama.
If he does not SAY what they want him to SAY he is FIRED FROM HIS JOB FOR LIFE.
So Martin could you possible take a look as this as a possible reason for the Nechung’s actions. Power, money, position and greed
are a universal motive for people to lie and cheat. Oracles are after all is said at the end of the day HUMAN after all.
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Dear Harold,
Interesting speculated scenario you have there. It looks very probably that there would be 2 Dalai Lamas, one from China, Tibet and
another from within the Tibetan community in India. What I wonder is if both Dalai Lamas going to be hardline about the Dorje Shugden
ban. The Dalai Lama historically had exhibited various characteristics that are usually peculiar of specific incarnations
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For example, the 5th and 13th Dalai Lama was peculiarly politically-inclined while other incarnations either passed away too young to
exhibit any inclination or were renunciates. Some incarnations like the 6th who was extremely worldly and had returned his vows and
sought the company of women and Tibetan beer. Then there was the 7th Dalai Lama who was a total renunciate and a total saint. So, my
point is that the next Dalai Lama may not necessarily prolong this ban on Dorje Shugden as he may have other plans and inclinations.
Anyway, everything is just speculation at this point but nonetheless, I am particularly fascinated with your vision of the future.
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Hello Pastor David Lai

I am glad that you are “particularly fascinated with your vision of the future”. Sorry Pastor but this is not my vision of the future
but that of a Kuten (Oracle) who is channelled the deity Tsiu Marpo (Kache Marpo). If he is correct then this is the future were the
Tibetan 15th Dalai Lama is a follower and teacher of Dorje Shugden. Were Dorje Shugden will be the new State Oracle and the
official State Protector of Tibet replacing Pehar who can now retire. If this Kuten (Oracle) is correct then both the Nechung is and
Lamo Tsangpa was FAKING their trances at the behest and orders of the 14th Dalai Lama.
In any case if the Tengye ling Kuten is correct about the future 15th Dalai Lama from Tibet we will see not only the DL but also
King Dorje Shugden on the THRONE IN THE POTALA.
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Dear Harold,
How interesting what you just said. I have never heard of such a incredible pronouncement. I hope there will not happen
because having 2 Dalai Lamas is just confusing. Anyway, I have actually never heard of a Tengyeling Kuten before. I have
met with the Ladakh oracle and Panglung oracle… and I have heard of the Simla kuten, Ari Kuten and those in Tibet. Never
heard of the Tengyeling Kuten. Please share pictures and information if you have any so we all come to know about this
oracle. Thanks.
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As there are presently two Domo Geshe Rinpoches and two Karmapas there will be two 15th Dalai Lamas.
Now to answer you about “I have actually never heard of a Tengyeling Kuten before”.
First please google “Tsiu Marpo “and you can yourself check on what I am about to write. First is a Master’s Thesis
from the University of Florida titled “Tsiu Marpo the career of a Tibetan Protector Deity” written in 2006 by
Christopher Paul Bell. It is 230 pages long and it is about Tsiu (Kache) Marpo.
Please go to page 125 and you will read “…Tengyeling monstery has a long tradition of housing the Demo (TulkU)
lineage,where many of the gegents of the Dalai Lamas originated. Andre Alexander, in his catalog of Lhasa
monasteries, reveals that Tsiu Marpoo has a special relationship with the lineage. The reason for this was the first
Demo Konchok Jungne (15th century) had an alleged meditational experience involving Tsiu Marpo….”. Second go to
http://www.dorjeshugdenhistory.org/trode-khangsar-4.htm. The document is titled “The Role of a Tsen Khang or
Protector House” and the relevant part states, “4. Tengyeling- Rinally, Tengyeling, agegency seat owned by Demo
Rinpoche, contained a tsen khang for the protector Tsiu Marpo…”.
Third, also from Christopher Paul Bells Master Thesis you will also find on page 125 the following, “The Tengyeling
monastery in Lhasa seems to have housed a Tsiu Marpo Oracle as well. Since it is a satellite of Samye, this is not
surprising…. (Andre) explains that even the Tsiu Marpo oracle was involved in one of these campaigns. …..Tradition
claims that the Tsiu Marpo Oracle supported this decision”.
Finally please go to page 144 of “Oracles and Demons of Tibet” by Rene De Nebesky-Wojkowitz. You should first
notice that this book was use by your Pastor in this article and pages copied for your readser to see. It states, “Another
Dharmpala of a more recent origin in the RETINUE OF DORJE SHUGDEN is the guaardian ME THAR. This god is
said to be the treasurer of TENGYELING MONASTERY, which was destroyed by Troops of the Tibetan Gov’t. in
1912. The unfortunate treasurer was taken prisoner and SKINNED ALIVE. His spirit turned into a ferocious demon.
Later he was subdured by and incarnate Lama, the Serkong Rinpoche…..”.
So Pastor David here are four direct examples of the connections between Dorje Shugden and Tengyeling Monastery.
It’s Abbot had a direct meditational relationship with Tsiu (Kache) Marpo and he build a Protector House for him and
Tsiu (Kache Marpo) took trance of the Tengyeling Kuten. Also upon the torture and murder of the Tengyeling
treasurer, Me Thar. he became a demon and was subdued by the Gelugpa Tulku Serkong Rinpoche and placed in the
retinue of Dorje Shugden. I asked about Me Thar on “Ask a Pastor” and also with the New Kadampa using the above
reference. Then your site nor the New Kadampa knew about Me Thar and his connection to Dorje Shugden.
Finally the Tengyeling Kuten has arisen again in these times to pass on his messages to Tsem Tulku. He is only a
“Hearld” a “Messenger”. It is the “message” and not the “messenger” that is important. Tsem Tulku in his youtube
video “Taking Trances” stated that it not the Oracle but the deity inside the Oracle that matters. The Oracle doesn’t
really have and true importance.
To easily clear up the validity of the messages of Tengyeling Kuten please ask Tsem Rinpoche to do a Dorje Shugden
Dice Divination. He is a master of this method of divination but if he needs more proof he can contact either the
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The Tengyeling Kuten is not interested to show a public face in this matter. It is his messages that is important and
nothing else.
It is his hope to see the 15th Tibetan Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden sitting together on their throne at the Potala.
Lester on May 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm
The Sixth is an interesting figure. Seeing that he is a womanizer, his retainers began to have doubt. The Sixth read their mind, peed
before them, and then retracted the fluid back into his secret organ. Anyway, I am leaving my post here to keep myself updated.
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Hi Lester,
I’m guessing you’re referring to H.H. the 6th Dalai Lama and his mahasiddha-like actions during his lifetime? There are
many tales of the 6th Dalai Lama disguising himself as a commoner and then running around Lhasa having intimate relations
with various women. This caused many of the Tibetan populace to become very angry with said women for causing the 6th
Dalai Lama to engage in inappropriate activities, as they could not blame the 6th Dalai Lama directly.
In one particular instance, an angry mob descended on the home of a woman who was bearing the 6th Dalai Lama’s child
and proceeded to beat her and cut the unborn child out of her womb. To their horror, when they cut her open, the child was in
the form of Avalokita or 1000-arm Chenresig.
It was only then that they realized their mistake and that the 6th Dalai Lama was in fact engaging in activities to create many
other special beings who would benefit the population.
I know you’re not really asking about the 6th Dalai Lama but I thought I would share this story as related by H.E. Tsem
Rinpoche because I personally found it very interesting and a lesson in not judging the deeds of any attained masters because
we don’t have the foresight to know what they are doing to benefit us.
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Valentina_moderator: 6. What happened to Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen body after his stupa was dismantled?
When the stupa was dismantled, Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen's body was found in excellent condition in a box inside the vase structure of the stupa. Quite a lot of hair
had grown on its head; the body had remained in an upright position, wrapped in two sets of monastic robes—an old and a new set—and an old wooden monk’s
teacup filled with dried fruit still sat in his lap. The fragrant scent of pure moral discipline permeated the entire place.
This story shows how highly attained Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen must have been for his body to have remained in such condition. This phenomenon is related to
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Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin and Pastor Lanse. This is just a proof that Dulzin Dragpa Gyaltsen who was the previous incarnation of the world
peace protector Dorje Shugden was a very powerful practitioner
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Joy: 6. What happened to Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen body after his stupa was dismantled?
- After the stupa was dismantled, the entire body was found in excellent condition in a box inside the vase structure of the stupa.
- Quite a lot of hair had grown on its head; the body had remained in an upright position, wrapped in two sets of monastic robes—an old and a new set—and an
old wooden monk’s teacup filled with dried fruit still sat in his lap.
- The fragrant scent of pure moral discipline permeated the entire place. I had heard of this previously while at Ganden from Geshé Chödrak himself.
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Pastor Adeline: A6. After the stupa was dismantled, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen's entire body was found in excellent condition in a box inside the vase structure of
the stupa. There were quite a lot of hair that had grown on its head; the body had remained in an upright position, wrapped in two sets of monastic robes—an old
and a new set—and an old wooden monk’s teacup filled with dried fruit still sat in his lap. The fragrant scent of pure moral discipline permeated the entire place.
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Pastor Shin: A6. After the stupa was dismantled, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen's entire body was found in excellent condition in a box inside the vase structure of the
stupa. There were quite a lot of hair that had grown on its head; the body had remained in an upright position, wrapped in two sets of monastic robes—an old
and a new set—and an old wooden monk’s teacup filled with dried fruit still sat in his lap. The fragrant scent of pure moral discipline permeated the entire place.
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P Lanse: 6. After Dulzin's stupa was dismantled, his entire body was found in excellent condition in a box inside the vase structure of the stupa. Quite a lot of hair
had grown on its head; the body had remained in an upright position, wrapped in two sets of monastic robes—an old and a new set—and an old wooden monk’s
teacup filled with dried fruit still sat in his lap. The fragrant scent of pure moral discipline permeated the entire place.
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P Lanse: 5. Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen is one of Lama Tsongkhapa's main disciple
- He built Gaden Monastery
- He is the founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery
- He is famous for upholding monastic vows, hence given the name Duldzin which mean Vinaya holder.
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Valentina_moderator: 5. Who was Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen?
Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen was the founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen (b. 1374 – d. 1434), was an important figure in the Gelug school of
Tibetan Buddhism. Dulwa Dzinpa Drakpa Gyaltsen (1374–1434) was one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa, and was a role model for his practice of
guru devotion in serving his lama all his life. Famous for his strict upholding of the monastic codes and for his mastery in writing on the Vinaya, he was given the
title “Vinaya Holder”, or in Tibetan, “Dulwa Zinpa”, which was then shortened to Duldzin.
In order to preserve and propagate the teachings of his teacher that were highly sought after from all over Tibet, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen built the first ever
Gelug monastery, Gaden Monastery in Lhasa. When Lama Tsongkhapa entered parinirvana, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen was requested to ascend the throne as the
first Gaden Tripa, Throneholder of the Gelug. Duldzin humbly declined the offer, choosing to dedicate the rest of his life to uphold the precious teachings of his
Guru instead. Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen stayed in Tsunmo Tsel Monastery until he entered into clear light, leaving behind a legacy of many great disciples, the
monasteries he built, as well as his extensive written works in Tantra. His disciples included all of the most important Gelug lamas of his day, such as Jamyang
Choje Tashi Pelden (1379-1449), the founder of Drepung Monastery.
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P Lanse: 4. Thonmi Sambhota is the scholar who invented Tibetan script.He offered the first Tibetan inscription text to King Songtsen Gampo after his invention.
This stone stele has been kept in Tsunmo Tsel Monastery until today.
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Pastor Shin: A5. Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen (b. 1374 – d. 1434) or Dulwa Dzinpa Drakpa Gyaltsen was an important figure in the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism.
He was one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa, and was a role model for his practice of guru devotion in serving his lama all his life. Famous for his
strict upholding of the monastic codes and for his mastery in writing on the Vinaya, he was given the title “Vinaya Holder”, or in Tibetan, “Dulwa Zinpa”, which
was then shortened to Duldzin.
Duldzin built the first ever Gelug monastery, Gaden Monastery in Lhasa. He was also the founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery.
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Pastor Adeline: A5. Who was Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen?
Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen was one of H.E. the 25th Tsem Rinpoche's previous reincarnation. He was also the reincarnation of the founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery,
Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen (b. 1374-d. 1434), who was an important figure in the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism.
Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen was one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa, and was a role model for his practice of guru devotion in serving his lama all his
life.
He was famous for his strict upholding of the monastic codes and for his mastery in writing on the Vinaya, he was given the title “Vinaya Holder”, or in Tibetan,
“Dulwa Zinpa”, which was then shortened to Duldzin.
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- The founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen (b. 1374 – d. 1434), was an important figure in the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism.
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- Dulwa Dzinpa Drakpa Gyaltsen (1374–1434) was one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa, and was a role model for his practice of guru devotion in
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- He is famous for his strict upholding of the monastic codes and for his mastery in writing on the Vinaya, he was given the title “Vinaya Holder”, or in Tibetan,
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P Lanse: 3. She brought with her a large retinue of officials, scholars, and craftsmen, in addition to a large amount of Tang products such as silk, porcelain, fine
furniture, musical instruments, jewellery and texts. She also brought an image of the Buddha, Jowo Rinpoche, that is still enshrined today in the main hall of
Jokhang Monastery, the spiritual centre of Tibet and focal point for all Tibetan Buddhist pilgrims.
Together with King Songtsen Gampo’s Nepalese wife, Princess Bhrikuti, they were credited for introducing Buddhism to Tibet. Tibetan folk legends view King
Songtsen Gampo as the reincarnation of the Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara, the patron and protector of Tibet, while Princess Wencheng was considered an
emanation of White Tara, the consort of Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara. Princess Bhrikuti Devi was considered the emanation of Green Tara.
Princess Wencheng was said to have influenced King Songtsen Gampo’s decision to stop the custom of face tattooing and painting among aristocrats, along with
wearing clothes made of felt and skins. She was also credited with introducing new agricultural methods and skills, such as metallurgy, weaving, construction and
more.
As a result of the marriage, Chinese scholars and texts were brought into Tibet, children of Tibetan aristocrats and students were sent to China for education.
Later, King Songtsen Gampo also requested China for silkworms’ eggs, wine presses, and workmen to make paper and ink. The diplomatic marriage brought
peace to Tang China for about two decades, as well as cultural exchanges between Tang China and Tibet.
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Mason: I have to take a leave now, but it was nice meeting you guys here. @Pastor Shin， thanks for the link and I will take a look soon.
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Pastor Shin: A4. Thonmi Sambhota was a one of the Tibetans who was sent by King Songtsen Gampo to India to learn the Indian writing systems in order to
invent Tibetan script. The only person who was successful was Thonmi Sambhota.
Tsunmo Tsel Monastery is also significant in the history of the Tibetan language as the monastery has been the guardian of a very important stone stele made by
Thonmi Sambhota. Thonmi Sambhota (b. 619 – d. unknown), the inventor of Tibetan script, offered the first Tibetan inscription text to King Songtsen Gampo after
his invention. This stone stele of the inscription is still available in the monastery today for visitors to view.
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Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin for the information
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Pastor Shin: @Mason, there are over 900 articles here on Buddhism. You can take a look https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-
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P Lanse: 1. Tsunmo Tsel Monastery is located in Tsunmo Tsel village, in Dagze district of Lhasa in Tibet. This is an area that has a deep connection to some of
Tibet’s most important historical figures.
Tsunmo in Tibetan is "princess" while Tsel means ‘find’. So in Tibetan, Tsunmo Tsel means the place the princess found.
Three important historical figures associated with this location:

i) Princess Wencheng - visited this place in 7th century and built an estate there
ii) Tibetan King Songtsen Gampo - king of Tibet, spent summers with Princess Wencheng in Tsunmo Tsel residence
iii) Duldzin Drakpa Gyatsen - the founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery
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Joy: 5. Who was Dulzin Drakpa Gyaltsen?
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- The founder of Tsunmo Tsel Monastery, Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen (b. 1374 – d. 1434), was an important figure in the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism.
- Dulwa Dzinpa Drakpa Gyaltsen (1374–1434) was one of the eight main disciples of Lama Tsongkhapa, and was a role model for his practice of guru devotion in
serving his lama all his life.
- He is famous for his strict upholding of the monastic codes and for his mastery in writing on the Vinaya, he was given the title “Vinaya Holder”, or in Tibetan,
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Tuesday, Jan 14. 2020 04:27 PM
This article really inspired me, every year we live is formative year for us as it
affects our future life, so we should really let go those bad influence from our
parents. What Rinpoche wrote is so true, most of us are either positive or
negative after getting influenced by our parents.
Dharma will make us face ourselves, acknowledge our weak and negative
aspects of character and will then guide us to move forward in a positively
transformative direction.Thank you very much for sharing this good article with
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Ratsag Monastery is a popular pilgrimage site located in the Yab Valley in
Tolung near to Lhasa, Tibet. Its a beautiful place located with interesting history
behind it. It’s the statue of Vajra Yogini that attracted many pilgrims there. This
monastery been built to purify the heavy negative karma associated with Ra
Lotsawa Dorje Drakpa (1016-1128 CE) by the locals who is well known for
introducing the Vajrabhairava-Yamantaka Tantras to Tibet.
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I did made a trip last May with friends and saw those beautiful scared statues at
the monastery. Merely by looking at it is a blessing.
Thank you Pastor David for this interesting post with the history of the Sacred
Vajrayogini Statue been explained.
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/the-
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Shailendra Dynasty was the name of an influential Indonesian dynasty that
emerged in 8th-century Java. Shailendras
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very popular pilgrimage site for locals, tourist and Buddhist practitioners. It is
now a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Wow ….incredible it took more than 50
years to complete this architectural monument . Read and heard about this
amazing monuments and all the beautiful stone inscriptions there. I have not
been there before but wish to in the near future. Interesting read of all about this
historical information on the Shailendra Dynasty.
Thank you Rinpoche for this sharing.
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Jerai has its fair share of history and fascinating tales. Wow……Interesting relics
uncovered in the area provide evidence of a Hindu-Buddhist civilization dating
back to the fourth century A. D. The mountain is an isolated sandstone peak in a
relatively flat landscape. There are also many legends and folklore surrounding
Gunung Jerai, making this mountain all the more interesting for ghost hunters,
trekkers, historians , archaeologist to explore. The Bujang Valley is once the site
of the Srivijaya Empire, an ancient Malay kingdom is the richest archaeological
area in Malaysia. Ancient ruins and numerous artefacts from a lost Hindu-
Buddhist civilization have been discovered. Artifacts such as porcelain,
stoneware, clay, pottery, and so forth been unearthed . Wow…. More than 50
ancient Hindu or Buddhist temples, called candi, have also been unearthed as
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civilization centuries ago.. Incredible discoveries the ruins of these candi and
other archaeological discoveries unearthed ruins at the site believed to be of
more than 2,000 years.
I have not been to the Archaeological Museum before but wish to see for myself.
Interesting read …….Guung Jerai and Bujang Valley is a stunning place of
historic, geological, zoological interests to visit.
Thank you for this sharing.
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Monday, Jan 13. 2020 02:12 PM
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back. It has a scary nature and are extremely cunning as what the local describe
it. In ancient Japanese folklore, the Kappa is a water demon a creature that is as
mysterious as it is terrifying. This strange creature is thought to hold magical
powers that can be used for both good and evil. Though many still refuse to
believe in the existence yet there are still many sightings in the countryside of
Japan as to this days.
Looking at the images of Kappa mummy at Zuiryūji Temple, Osaka and Kappa
mummy at the National Museum of Ethnology, Leiden ,Netherlands has indeed
proof that Kappas do exist after all centuries ago. Interesting read of all the
mysterious creatures which I have not heard before.
Thank you for this interesting sharing.
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Monday, Jan 13. 2020 02:10 PM
Rinpoche loved all animals nor matter what species, animals they are. Rinpoche
was a huge animal lover and would rescue any of the animals from a smallest to
much bigger ones. Rinpoche ‘s love to them is un measurable , boring equal love
to all of them. Because of Rinpoche ‘s love for animals Rinpoche had built the
Dream Manjushri fish pond and aviary at Kechara Forest Retreat. Rinpoche had
a soft spot for dogs and will help any of them along the way he met. Jersey and
Tara are the fortunate dogs that been taking care by Rinpoche.
A dog is definitely a man best friend and they are such agreeable friends.
Thank you Pastor Jean Ai for this wonderful sharing.
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S.Prathap
Thursday, Jan 9. 2020 04:29 PM
Rejoice to the 35 pilgrims who went all the way to make offerings to the Sangha
members of Gaden Monastery on behalf of our Guru Rinpoche.It is supremely
sublime type of offering to make offerings for the well being and welfare of the
monks.
By giving out, we will get something in return. It’s not materialistically return,
but in return of happiness. It’s another happiness that grow from inside.Thank
you very much for sharing this nice article with us.
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Teaching and learning is an art of appreciating life. The purpose of a teaching is
to teach us to put into practice and learning from there to improve by keeping the
end in mind. Tsem Rinpoche’s wisdom, teachings, experience , and instruction is
important for us as student. We must follow and putting into practice. Well its
like a doctor giving advice and prescription on medicines to a patient. The
patient must listen and follow instructions, to get better. There many cases I have
seen they the patients do not follow, and blaming the doctors for failure. Same
goes to a teacher or guru, when student fail, they blame the teacher or guru in
actual fact they got to blame themselves as they did not follow the teachings and
instructions. The teacher or guru, spiritual guide is indeed like a skilful doctor .
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To the world Tsem Rinpoche might just be a teacher but to us Rinpoche is more
than that who constantly tramples our ego. Rinpoche plays a bigger role in
shaping us and was the one who teaches us what life is . Rinpoche taught us how
to make the most of it by removing the darkness of our ignorance. We are
fortunate to have a guru who enrich our life and widening our horizons in our
spiritual journey. When we found a true Guru , by all means never abandon our
spiritual guru no matter what happen and how many inner obstacles we need to
overcome. Yes …Rinpoche wasInner already prepared for all and Rinpoche knew
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our Guru whom I have not meet before. My very first time, thank you Rinpoche
for those beautiful gifts, advice which I truly treasured. Rinpoche had lived to
benefit others giving teachings and sharing spiritual wisdom.
Thank you Pastor Jean Ai for this wonderful sharing.
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Medicine Buddha known as The Inner
Supreme Healer alleviates suffering using the
remedy of his wisdom. Medicine
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and psychological sickness. He also helps those who sick to dissolve the three
forms of poison – attachment, hatred, and ignorance which are the source of all
diseases and danger. Merely by seeing the image of the Medicine Buddha and
his mantra showers us with blessings. And merely hearing Medicine Buddha’s
name will also have some healing influence on the ones who heard his name.
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Vajrayana Buddhism. In Tibetan Buddhism Virupa is seen as the Indian founder
of the Sakya lineage. The Great mystic Virupa ‘s life stories are filled with tales
of magic and miracles spreading far and wide. How he used his amazing cosmic
power to stop the sun and parted the river Ganges so that he crossed without
difficulty. Virupa was an enlightened bodhisattva and had stopped the Ganges
twice and also stopped the sun. Wow……Virupa through his yogic discipline
subdued many distorted paths and had many followers. He travelled throughout
the whole of India teaching tantra, performing various magical feats. In the
entire history of Buddhism there has never been another master showing such
fearlessness in serving the Buddhadharma.
Thank you Pastor David Lai for this interesting post.
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Looking at the above pictures of our Guru standing alone tells us all. Rinpoche
having a deep thought and silently talking to Lama Dorje Shugden. It showed us
the closeness relationship Rinpoche has with the powerful Protector . It was
really special kind of relationship. Thank you Pastor Jean Ai , for this sharing of
your experience being as a student of Rinpoche. As least now we could
understand with yours and Rinpoche’s explanation, why Rinpoche’s referred
Dorje Shugden as Lama Dorje Shugden whom is indeed a Lama to us.
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Samfoonheei
Monday, Jan 6. 2020 12:46 PM
Excuses change nothing, rather than make excuses for their failures, we learn
from each mistake. We always make so many excuses for ourselves in failure we
should take full responsibility for ourselves and actions. Life is full of excuses, it
is important for us to find a way or solution, to make an effort and determination
and not excuses. Reading all these powerful quotes will inspire us to start to take
back control of our own power and live with a life with no excuses.
Thank you Rinpoche for this sharing .
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-
words/why-are-excuses-impermanent.html
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All those powerful meaningful quotes by Rinpoche and others famous people
tells us a thousand words. Reading and understanding it will change our lives for
a better. I love all those worthy, wisdom quotes which some are a reminder,
inspiring and a wake up call for us to ponder.
Thank you Rinpoche for sharing.
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Tsem Rinpoche:
Hinduism is one of the oldest and most sacred and in-depth religions that we have. There are over one billion adherents throughout the world and
Hindus believe that the divine, or the ultimate God, manifests in the form of a wrathful, black woman known as Kali. Kali is God.This powerful goddess
has long hair, is very skinny, black and is known to be extremely violent and very fierce - she drinks blood, slays demons and eats their intestines.
For the last 5000 years, the ancient, philosophical and deeply rich culture of India has seen God in the form of this black woman called Kali. For
hundreds of generations, this has been their belief and through worship of this deity, incredible saints (such as Ramakrishna) have arisen out of India
and benefitted society at large. You can Google about Ramakrishna yourselves. The worship of God in the form of Kali has been in India before the appearance of
many other religions. Inner
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But can God be a black, wrathful woman? The reality is that each culture, continent and race has their version of God, of what God should and should not be, and
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look like. Versions of God that do not conform to our ideas, culture, belief and projection, are dismissively labelled as evil, negative
or bad and we insult those versions as being demons. But this is illogical to insult another culture's form of God because ultimately no one can prove or disprove
anything.
That approach however, is completely wrong. At the end of the day, every person who has started a religion has said that they have seen, heard or communicated
with God. They will give you their 'vision' of God and their followers will say their founder is accurate. So who's to say who is right and who is wrong? On what
basis are we qualified in order to determine which God is right and which is wrong? If we want harmony and peace, then we should not dismiss or insult another
person's version of God. To say one person's religion or God is bad or evil just because they do not fit your particular culture, upbringing, familiarity and
stereotype, is the source of conflict; trying to prove which God is superior and authentic is what creates disharmony. No one's God can be more authentic than
another's. It does not make sense.
It is not gods who fight but humans, and humans use their particular stereotypes of God to judge one another's belief systems. That however, is where major
problems, issues and difficulties arise from. Why can God not be anything other than what our culture tells us he or she is? Why does it have to be only one way
and not any other way? Divinity can show itself in many forms and manifestations. It does not have to be the particular manifestation that is familiar to us, thereby
making everybody else wrong. To claim Manjushri
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7 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
She's going to spend her whole life here without being able to move correctly. Like a machine. They are the slaves of the
people and are viewed as a product. It's immoral. Billions of terrestrial animals die annually. Billions. You can't even imagine
it. And all that because people don't want to give up meat, even though there are so many alternatives.~ Gabriel Azimov
Be kind to animals and do not eat meat because we have many food alternatives now..~Tsem Rinpoche
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High Sri Lankan monks visit Kechara to bless our land, temple, Buddha and Dorje Shugden images. They were very kind-see pictures-
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My Dharma boy (left) and Oser girl loves to laze around on the veranda in the mornings. They enjoy all the trees, grass and relaxing under the
hot sun. Sunbathing is a favorite daily activity. I care about these two doggies of mine very much and I enjoy seeing them happy. They are
with me always. Tsem Rinpoche
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8 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
After you left me Mumu, I was alone. I have no family or kin. You were my family. I can't stop thinking of you and I
can't forget you. My bond and connection with you is so strong. I wish you were by my side. Tsem Rinpoche
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This story is a life-changer. Learn about the incredible Forest Man of India | 印度“森林之子”- https://bit.ly/2Eh4vRS
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Beautiful billboard just came up in our hometown of Bentong where Kechara Forest Retreat (KFR) in Malaysia is located. All
of us in Bentong are warm, simple and very friendly people. Our beautiful billboard depicts Dorje Shugden statue in KFR
and Dorje Shugden is a hero (pahlawan) and a powerful being from Tibet. He is highly respected for giving great
inspirations and blessings from his life story.~Tsem Rinpoche- See more beautiful pictures- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
这个美丽的布告板刚在我们的家乡——文冬安装好。文冬是克切拉禅修林的所在地。我们文冬人热情、朴实和友善。我们美
丽的布告板描绘着禅修林里的多杰雄登像，而多杰雄登是位英雄，也是一位来自西藏强大的守护者。从他的生平我们得知他因赐人加持和灵感而备受尊崇。詹仁波
切- 点击链接查看更多图片：https://bit.ly/2ThOvVa
8 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. I hope many Mongolians will print out this image
and place in their houses to create an affinity with Dorje Shugden for greater blessings. To download a high resolution file:
https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
The powerful Mongolian nation have a long history and connection with Manjushri Dorje Shugden, as expressed in the life of Venerable
Choijin Lama, a State Oracle of Mongolia who took trance of Dorje Shugden among other Dharma Protectors. Read more about Choijin
Lama: https://bit.ly/2GCyOUZ
8 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. I hope many Mongolians will print out this image and place in their
houses to create an affinity with Dorje Shugden for greater blessings. To download a high resolution file: https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
The powerful Mongolian nation have a long history and connection with Manjushri Dorje Shugden, as expressed in the life of Venerable Choijin Lama, a State
Oracle of Mongolia who took trance of Dorje Shugden among other Dharma Protectors. Read more about Choijin Lama: https://bit.ly/2GCyOUZ
8 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
The Mystical land of Shambhala is finally ready for everyone to feast their eyes and be blessed. A beautiful post with information, art
work, history, spirituality and a beautiful book composed by His Holiness the 6th Panchen Rinpoche. ~ https://bit.ly/309MHBi
9 months ago
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Buddha Vairocana statue who is a cosmic and timeless Buddha. Emperor Shomu who sponsored this beautiful temple eventually abdicated and ordained as a
Buddhist monk. Very interesting history and story. One of the places everyone should visit- https://bit.ly/2VgsHhK
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
In Buddhism: The Importance of Having a Clean Room- https://bit.ly/2ZgrbKS
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche was a highly learned and accomplished master of the highest calibre. He was the guru of thousands of
students in Tibet. Two high lamas below him are His Holiness Kyabje Ling Rinpoche (left) and His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche (right). Pabongka
Rinpoche was the root guru of Ling Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche. In turn, Ling Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche are the root gurus of His Holiness the
14th Dalai Lama. They taught the Dalai Lama the complete teachings, lineage, initiations, oral transmissions and commentaries for over 30 years.
9 months ago
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9 months ago
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Just now, this beautiful grape and orange infused water drink with a blue glass was brought in for me. I was amazed at the colors. Tsem Rinpoche
9 months ago
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We have to look in and change from within to find the way out of all that makes us unhappy.~Tsem Rinpoche
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9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
Our Malaysian Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir speaks so well, logically and regarding our country's collaboration with China for growth. It
is refreshing to listen to Dr. Mahathir's thoughts. He said our country can look to China for many more things such as technology and
so on. Tsem Rinpoche
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZIxeBQ1YtQ&feature=youtu.be
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
It has been only four short weeks plus since we posted Tenpa Yarphel's courageous message to the Tibetan leadership. He said to not
segregate against Dorje Shugden people and we should have unity and harmony regardless of religious differences. He is an MP of the
Tibetan parliament in exile in Dharamsala, North India. One of the few brave and honest ones who speaks up for what is right. Since then his
post has reached over 100k views! There is so much interest in this post. It is encouraging to see the interest as truthful and caring thoughts still
count. Wonderful!~ https://bit.ly/2CESoxf
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
It has been only four short weeks plus since we posted Tenpa Yarphel's courageous message to the Tibetan leadership. He said to not segregate against
Dorje Shugden people and we should have unity and harmony regardless of religious differences. He is the MP of the Tibetan parliament in exile in
Dharamsala, North India. One of the few brave and honest ones who speaks up for what is right. Since then his post has reached over 100k views! There is
so much interest in this post. It is encouraging to see the interest. Wonderful!~ https://bit.ly/2CESoxf
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
It has been only four short weeks plus since we posted Tenpa Yarphel's courageous message to the Tibetan leadership. He said to not segregate against
Dorje Shugden people and we should have unity and harmony regardless of religious differences. He is the MP of the Tibetan parliament in exile in
Dharamsala, North India. One of the few brave and honest ones who speaks up for what is right. Since then his post has reached over 100k views! There is
so much interest in this post. It is encouraging to see the interest. Wonderful!~https://bit.ly/2CESoxf
9 months ago
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Click on this picture and read about this very sad girl. Please offer your prayers for her to take a good rebirth. Tsem Rinpoche
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Bigfoot cafe in Bentong, Malaysia-Delicious vegetarian food in a beautiful setting- https://bit.ly/2VxdGau
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
It is widely 'known' amongst the Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala that the Dharma Protectors Dorje Shugden and Nechung do not get
along and their practices are incompatible. However, just with a bit of research will easily uncover irrefutable evidence to disprove this
wrongly held notion. It turns out that a State Oracle of a particular Buddhist country takes trance of both of these two Dharma
Protectors. These two protectors are invoked and consulted through a single oracle without problems and conflict. Therefore, the
existence of this oracle contradicts everything that the Tibetan leadership said about these two protector deities especially Dorje
Shugden. Click to discover the truth now..- https://bit.ly/2GCyOUZ
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
In Kechara Forest Retreat- Bentong, Malaysia, we have a beautiful outdoor offering grotto dedicated to Lord Dorje Shugden who fulfills the
wishes of many visitors- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
Japanese Buddha statues. Beautiful program- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIfNibljnoI
9 months ago
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Japanese Buddhist altars. Beautiful- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4uqb3jPpCs
9 months ago
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Beautiful Lord Buddha carving which is so elegant. Tsem Rinpoche
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9 months ago
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Beautiful short and powerful teaching by Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche
9 months ago
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China's huge Buddha statues. Amazingly beautiful- https://bit.ly/2DgSXxT
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
Such a powerful imagery of Lord Buddha's determination. Fasting Buddha's meaning- HTTP://bit.ly/2VCfKLa
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
This poor boy is being forced to leave his friend to be sold for slaughter. Children have a natural connection with animals, and they know it is wrong to
hurt and kill them. Children lose this connection by being indoctrinated (brainwashed) by their parents/peers into believing animals are here to be
exploited, killed, and eaten.- from Lucinda Smyth FB page
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
Some people really struggle and put in so much effort in their lives. Amazing. Tsem Rinpoche
9 months ago
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18th Century Mongolian made Namgyalma statue. Very artistic. Very beautiful. Usually her arms are 'all over the place' but this one is so artistically
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If your mind is constantly preoccupied by your money and possessions, you are in reality only preparing the ground for rebirth as a spirit tortured by hunger and
thirst. If your thoughts are obsessed with your family and loved ones, you are only strengthening the pangs of separation you will suffer when you die. But to have
devotion constantly in your mind will endow you with lasting serenity and satisfaction. Remembering even the name of your spiritual teacher is enough to
completely transform your perceptions. Visualizing the guru above the crown of your head, even for an instant, can dissipate the veils of illusion. Devotion is the
ring that allows the hook of the teacher’s compassion to pull you out of the mire of samsara.
Enlightenment, inherent though it is in the mind, seems so difficult to unveil. But if you develop fervent devotion and fuse the guru’s enlightened nature with your
ordinary mind, enlightenment can be realized. Truly, to meditate on the benevolent teacher is a spiritual practice more profound than any other.
– Dilgo Khyentse, excerpt from “The Hundred Verses of Advice”

9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
The world tells you to follow your dreams.
But Buddhism will tell you to wake up.
~ Chamtrul Rinpoche
9 months ago
Tsem Rinpoche:
Buddha Vajrapani
Vajrapani is a Buddha who embodies the spiritual power of all enlightened beings.
His name, which means ‘Vajra Holder’, indicates that he is the lineage holder of Buddha’s Vajrayana teachings in general and of Highest Yoga Tantra in
particular, and that he has a special power to destroy delusions – the true enemies of living beings.
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The Fourteenth Dalai Lama & Dorje Shugden | ༧གོང་ས་ཆེན་པོ་ ་འ ེང་བ ་བཞི་པ་མཆོག་དང་ ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན། | 十四世达赖尊者与多杰雄登 SHUGDEN....
最新！多杰雄登日常酬供仪轨之略轨
The Fifth Dalai Lama & Dorje Shugden | ༧གོང་ས་ ་པ་ཆེན་པོ་དང་ ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན། | 第五世达赖尊者与多杰雄登
Abby Foo's Dharma Sharing | 符芳盈中文佛法视频分享
Arjia Rinpoche says don't discriminate against Dorje Shugden people
Why is she putting the Dalai Lama down?
嘉杰宋仁波切对多杰雄登修持的开示（附英、日、尼泊尔及西班牙文字幕视频）
ངའི་༧གོང་ས་མཆོག་ལ་ ན་ ་ ་ ར།
一些纠正关于多杰雄登和西藏局势错误信息的视频
NEW! Simplified Daily Prayer to Dorje Shugden
༧གོང་ས་ བས་མགོན་ ལ་བ་ ་འ ེང་བ ་བཞི་པ་ཆེན་པོ་མཆོག་ནས་ཆོས་ ོང་ ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན་ ི་འ ིན་བཅོལ་ ོམ་གནང་བ།
The Selfless Dorje Shugden Oracle
The Incredible Legend of Hoichi the Earless Minstrel
ོ་བདེ་ཁང་གསར། ་ས་ན་ཡོད་པ་ལོ་བཞི་བ ་སོང་བའི་ ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན་ ི་ ེན་ཁང་།
ேக சாரா ஃேபாெர கியா ேஸ சிைல வ தைட ள
གནོད་ ིན་ ི་ ས་པ་ ིར་འ ད་གཏོང་བ་ལ་ བ་འགལ།
Kyabje Zong Rinpoche Explains on Many Rare and Precious Teachings with Translation
དཔེ་རིས་དེར་ ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན་ ི་ ད་པར་ ་འཕགས་པའི་ ད་ཆོས་ མས།
Zanabazar: The First High Saint of Mongolia
केचारा फरे ट र टमा आ नो कम कसर शु करण गन
ཀེ་ཆ་རའི་ཆོས་ཚགས་ནང་ལ་ ེད་ ི་ལས་ངན་དག་པ་ ེད་ ལ།
Aghori
Choijin Lama: The State Oracle of Mongolia
满愿护法多杰雄登
Gyara Rinpoche Gives Dorje Shugden Sogtae | 嘉若仁波切授予多杰雄登托命灌顶
A Wish-fulfilling Shrine
Is Ethical Vegetarianism Consistent with Eating Artificial, Laboratory-Grown Meat?
Is There Any Such Thing As "Vermin"?
Ten Counterproductive Behaviors of Well-Intentioned People
The White Old Man (Tsagan Evgen)
Dorje Shugden Shize: A practice for healing and long life
Never Seen Before Footage of Dorje Shugden Oracles | 从未曝光的多杰雄登神谕片段
Bigger and more Buddha statues makes a difference | 为何佛像越大、越多越好
Biography: The 4th Tagphu Pemavajra Jampel Tenpai Ngodrub
Comparison between the Shamarpa and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen
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Grand Puja at Malacca's Dorje Shugden Chapel! | 马六甲多杰雄登“财王庙”的多杰雄登大法会！ TALK ABOUT DORJE
Dalai Lama says 'too many' refugees in Europe SHUGDEN....
The Most Illustrious Panchen Sonam Drakpa
Our Lama vs the Dalai Lama - The Underlying Reasons For the Ban
Mongols believed 5th Dalai Lama was someone else

Nechung - The Retiring Devil of Tibet
བོད་པའི་ ་མས་ནོར་འ ལ་ ས་ ིད་དམ།
Dorje Shugden's Dice Divination
ོ་ ེ་ གས་ ན་དང་བོད་ ི་གནས་ ངས་ ི་ ོར་ལ་ལོག་བཤད་ ེད་ཡོད་པ་དེ་བ ར་བཅོས་ ེད་པའི་བ ན་འ ིན་ ོགས་བ ས།
Kechara's Vajrayogini Prayer Wheels
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Ucheyma: The Severed Head Goddess Vajra Yogini
Shantideva: The Misunderstood Scholar and Mahasiddha
The Buddhist Divide - An Unholy Campaign against Religious Freedom
The Vinaya Holder Duldzin Drakpa Gyaltsen
How to Purify Your Karma in Kechara Forest Retreat
Pabongka Rinpoche and his yogini student, the Lady Lhalu
Karma Kagyu's Lodreu Rabsel Rinpoche asks the Dalai Lama for Religious Freedom
United Colors of Spirituality
The Body of a Buddha: A Road Map to Liberation
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"If you say you don't have money to help a animal shelter, why then do you have money to buy meat?"
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"Eating animals is not our God-given right, but being kind to them is."
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"What makes us good humans is not how we abuse animals, but how much we allow them to live and be happy freely." SHUGDEN....
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"We need another and wiser and perhaps a more mythical concept of animals.... We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of
having taken form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more
complex than ours they moved finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall
never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of
the splendour and travail of the earth."
~ Henry Beston, The Outermost House
"Not eating animals is only unnatural when we are not used to it."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES
"We may encounter defeat, but we must not be defeated."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"What you are today, is the choice you made yesterday."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"You think you can choose your life? What an ego trip!"
~ Lama Yeshe
"If TODAY you are dissatisfied, you must make the changes to create different results for TOMORROW."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
SPIRITUAL QUOTES
“Meditating on Dorje Shugden while reciting his mantra will open the gateways to higher dimensions, blessings and protection.”
~ Tsem Rinpoche
“If one does the recitation of the Lama Tsongkhapa guru yoga prayer for even one month using one of the visualizations for great or clear
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born in the pure realm
of Lama Tsongkhapa, Tushita, whenever death happens.”
~ Pabongkha Rinpoche
"I was 18 years old in 1983. That was a very special year as I met His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and received innumerable precious teachings
and empowerments from Him at Thubten Dhargye Ling Centre in Los Angeles, California. It was the best time of my life. A time that seems so
magical and surreal to me. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche is Heruka Buddha and I met Heruka."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"If being me offends you, maybe I'm not the problem."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Never abandon your spiritual teacher no matter how many inner obstacles you need to overcome."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Actions to force something to be permanent makes all the karmas arise."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"The dharma is not easy to listen to… because some people take it as criticism. But Dharma should not be just feel good only for the moment but for
deeper contemplations."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Whether we do work and suffer but for others or we do work and suffer for ourselves, either way we have to suffer. That is the nature of samsara. So
let us suffer for others and then suffering has meaning."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Those who really want the dharma to grow within themselves and to grow for others should never fear hard work, timing, difficulties, struggles,
disappointments because it is for a good cause. Working for Dharma is not a prison or work, but it is purely spiritual practice. It is purely collection of
merit and purification. Actually not doing dharma work is the real prison."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"His Holiness Zong Rinpoche stressed the need to continue to practice even when we come up against obstacles, and that we should continually
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~ Ngala ’ö-Dzin Tridral
"Things in samsara always go wrong. That's its nature. Don't be surprised."

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"Knowledge never quenches the thirst, only application."
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LIFE QUOTES
"I pity men who occupy themselves exclusively with the transitory in things and lose themselves in the study of what is perishable, since we are here
for this very end-that we may make the perishable imperishable, which we can do only after we have learned how to approach both."
~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"Money amplifies negative characteristics and that can cause problems. To walk away from that was actually very easy. I didn't even consider it."
~ Angeline Francis Khoo
"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud."
~ Carl Jung
"There is a devil there is no doubt, but is he trying to get into us or trying to get out?"
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"If you love someone, show it by being honest, respectful & honorable with them."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see."
~ Henry David Thoreau
"If I can just be the way I am & you the way you are & we accept each other, world peace is near."
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"It's amazing how some people have never met me or know who I am, but based on a few things they read here & there & rumours, they have
formulated a new personality for me & all the things I've never done they passionately speak about....I find it funny and entertaining now. I guess we
can't spend our lives fighting rumours...we just have to work hard & then rumours get proven wrong on it's own as a by product. No point explaining
repeatedly. Just do our work & show results!!"
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"There's a difference between patience and laziness. Patience comes from respect while laziness from disrespect of others."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Although outwardly we have so much, we have so many conveniences, inwardly we have become more unhappy, so, acquisition is not the secret to
happiness. The more we get, the more we have, the more unhappy we become."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"Before we experience any pain, we already had a fixed view of how things should be. When the experience we encounter contradicts our views, then
the pain arises. The pain arises due to our fixed views not so much the experience itself. So the secret is changing the views. Re-educating ourselves
on our views."
~ Tsem Rinpoche
"You know since very young, for better or worse, I always did the things that others told me not to do. I wasn't really good at following the rules.
Even now with how I share Dharma and my practice, I just do it the way I think it should be done but I do it sincerely. Not what others tell me what I
can and can't do."
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"Love me or hate me, both are in my favor... If you love me, I'll always be in your heart... If you hate me, I'll always be in your mind."
~ William Shakespeare
"One isn't necessarily born with courage, but one is born with potential. Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We
can't be kind, true, merciful, generous or honest."
~ Maya Angelou
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The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
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Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha. She was his step-mother and aunt. Buddha's mother had passed
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Always be kind to
animals-They deserve to
live just like us.
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Yummy? Tasty? Behind the
scenes of the meat on your
plates. Meat is a killing
industry.
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Mongolian (Oymiakon) Shaman in Siberia, Russia. That is his real outfit he wears. Very unique. TR
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This is what they do to get
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produce belts and jackets.
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next purchase.
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Silver Manjusri
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Indonesia.
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is how Dynasty
they are beingpromoted Mahayana Buddhism and Manjushri was a principal Buddha of worship.
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lives. Please do something
to stop the brutality. Listen
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Nechung – The Retiring Devil of Tibet

Nechung Oracle in trance

(By Tsem Rinpoche and Pastor Adeline)

Dear friends around the world,

Urged on by spirits and demons,

-Pehar (Nechung), through Lobsang Jigme, the 16th State Oracle

What is a Dharma Protector?

Chatreng area’s Sampheling Monastery in Kham, Tibet is the personal

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Nechung Dorje Shugden

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A statue of Dorje Shugden riding on a horse that was

In Exile From the Land of Snows

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Kuzder PhD., Rita; Nechung The Tibetan State Oracle; http://www.academia.edu/8360688/Nechung_the_Tibetan_State_Oracle

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Dorje Shugden’s main mantra 多杰雄登主要咒语

Dorje Shugden’s mantra for peace 平和咒语

Dorje Shugden’s mantra for health 福寿安康咒语

Dorje Shugden’s mantra for increase 增长咒语

Dorje Shugden’s mantra for control 控制咒语

Dorje Shugden’s mantra to grant protection 庇护咒语

May you be safe, protected and blessed.

Divination (‘mo’) Text by Dorje Shugden

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*Stand not included

Regarding Goddess Yudroma and her oracle in Dharamsala

I like oracles because humans can meet the gods directly.

Great message every Tibetan especially must read!

The politics and racism of the Dorje Shugden ban

Read more: Trode Khangsar – A 400-year-old Dorje Shugden Chapel in Lhasa

Short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTybDwTeLAM

Endowed with heroic courage to judge good and bad,

Robes of a monk, crown adorned with rhinoceros leather hat,

Samaya substances, offerings and torma, outer, inner and secret,

Now respectfully praising with body, speech, and mind,

Moreover, swiftly accomplishing all wishes,

Tibetan prayer from: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/the-14th-dalai-lamas-prayer-to-dorje-shugden.html

Ugui bol ugui.

Dear Pastor Adeline,

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Katrina Ann on Jun 10, 2016 at 11:27 pm

Below are 5 points I had gether from this article:

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Martin on Jun 10, 2016 at 11:09 pm

I enjoyed your comments very much. Thank you.

Humbly, bowing down,

现在我正在读着詹仁波切博客近期的帖文“Nechung-The Retiring Devil in Tibet ”，这篇文章分成几个不同主题去探讨乃琼与多杰雄登

Pastor Adeline on May 29, 2016 at 12:44 am

感恩上师分享的这篇文章，让我进一步了解Nec hung 护法与多杰雄登护法有许多共同之处外但又有一些不一样，相同之处 ~ 例如 :同

Doreen Teoh on May 27, 2016 at 10:04 am