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film scores of the last year, they can't fully explain where the
music comes from. That might be why there was plenty of
talk of magic at the 2019 edition of THR's annual Composer
the second time, on Us, Michael Abels, 57, says he prefers not
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my own accord.
early 20s, then I knew, "Oh, OK, she was right. This was
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there was a piano in the living room. Like they are of equal
did not want to practice, and they weren't having that. They
forced me. And I think that's the right thing to do. Things that
DNA.
that Schubert?"
guitars.
How old were you when you wrote your first original
composition?
IGLESIAS Maybe 16. It was for the guitar. I was also studying
piano. But [I preferred] guitar. I was very fascinated by
[music] by yourself.
but also of your soul. I started piano like my sisters. After one
trumpet, I played the cornet. When you are 7, you can't play
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What was the biggest hurdle you had to get over on the
the music just after reading the script. So I started writing the
what he wanted?
was really the biggest "aha," and it was like — it was actually
to the script as I read it. I really felt a lot for the character. As I
lightning. I was like, "This is his voice! This is his voice! This is
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dailies, the first one I got was the bathroom gun scene, which
having a bit of a hard time finding the right way to get into
Joaquin just reacted to it. And this scene wasn't in the script
at all.
the key shift to become the Joker. So that was his "aha"
process with the script as well. But I will say that the edit the
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instincts, but the question is, "Where does the music go?" And
how do you deploy it, like you were saying. I think the big
ways to do it. But the big challenge was actually that David
York. What was really the challenge was trying to figure out a
way to find this feeling and then looking for it, but doing it
period of time in July where we just dove in. It was kind of like
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You should be able to analyze the movie when you watch it.
movie where the actors are great and the photography sucks.
BOSTIC Yes.
[Peele] really loves music that sets most people on edge. That
lights him up. So I know I am being invited to just do crazy
build it in.
encouraging?
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fine. And then I saw the film and there was no music.
DESPLAT Kind of …
DESPLAT You don't need any. (Laughter.) You just move on.
you are at the final stage. That's the first time that all these
sound and sound design, the mix, the music, final picture …
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going through.
DESPLAT It's how the music vibrates with the film. The
moment that the music follows the storyline and draws you
great, fantastic ideas when you read the script, and then
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second-guess it. It's like breathing for me. It's natural. If I start
second-guessing breathing, then I'll asphyxiate.
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work at all."
unknown.
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or something …
And then when you have that release and you are not
thinking — you are just present. I always marvel at what I
sudden it's like, "OK, you just have to completely yield to what
you have to do." And in that moment for me is a lot of magic.
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the box office. It's not a hindrance. That is the result of the
success of a lot of films in the past few years. So the purpose
last few years working more. And that's great. There is also a
lot more content being produced. So I think these two things
opportunity that this is actually a job that they are able to do.
That takes time for that to sink in — for women or girls to see
that as an option.
why? Like, everyone has a color. I'd really like to talk about
why we have the need for stratification.
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BOSTIC Absolutely.
you know? And they should have been kept wide open. Why
are we still struggling to have diversity? It makes no sense to
me.
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in entertainment.
lucky I can say to Caitlin, "I wonder how this might sound on
the cello?" And at the same time it can be really difficult.
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when the red alert is coming. I don't know how he does it,
actually. I guess that's why that works. Because he somehow
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Main Image: From left: Michael Abels, Nicholas Britell, Kathryn Bostic, Hildur
Gudnadóttir, Alberto Iglesias and Alexandre Desplat were photographed Oct. 25
at Apotheke in downtown Los Angeles.
Martha Galvan
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