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August 2, 2007, 06:55 Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #1

Carlos Hello,
Guest
Does anybody know how to model moisture within fluent? I
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understand that the species transport model has to be
implemented but it is not clear how to set up the model.

I am looking at the humidity levels within a livestock trailer. I

have modeled sheep as large blocks with a surface generating
heat. I now need to set up a humidity model. Does anybody
know how I would approach this problem? What type of
boundary condition would I need to set? I assume it will
simply be a wall with a base level of wetness but it is not
clear to me.

If anybody can help that would be much appreciated. All the

best,

Carlos.

August 3, 2007, 21:04 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #2

AAA Hi
Guest
Use the Species model and define the properties of the
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"mixture species" in the materials window to have H2O and
Air (H2O must be the top one). Choose "volume-wheighted"
for density and "mass-weighted" for thermal conductivity and
viscousity. Then specify the moisture mass fraction for inlets
to the domain (this is the humidity ratio in the psycrometric
chart). Specify a "constant" mass fraction value for the body
of the sheep.

August 7, 2007, 09:23 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #3

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Carlos Thanks for your help AAA, this method appears to work fine -
Guest much appreciated. Just wondered if you had any idea of
typical mass fractions of vapour for my boundary conditions?
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When postprocessing I find that contour plots of relative

humidity show values of 1000's of %! Clearly the humidity
cannot exceed 100% at any given temperature. If you have
any ideas please let me know.

Best regards,

Carlos.

August 7, 2007, 18:03 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #4

AAA Hi
Guest
Relative humidity must never exeed 100%.
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Have you heard about a Psychrometric chart? This chart is

usually used by HVAC engineers (please find one) to find
properties of air such as humidity ratio (mass fraction) by
knowing the temperature and relative humidity, for example,
among others. This will enable you to specify the mass
fraction at the inlet and also predict the relative humidity at
the outlet.

Now if you don't know any HVAC enngineers, kindly send me

the temperature and relative humidity you are using for the
inlet boundary and I will give you the values for the mass
fraction. Still, if you can find some one to show you the chart
and explain it to you, this will be better.

Kind Regards

August 7, 2007, 19:26 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #5

Carlos Hi AAA,
Guest
Thats great, thanks for your advice. I think I may be having
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problems because I am specifying the humidity on the inlet
AND the outlet, maybe I should leave the outlet alone this
time! Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks

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Carlos.

August 7, 2007, 20:03 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #6

AAA Hi
Guest
You still have to specify a "practical" mass fraction for
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moisture at the inlet to get a reasonable relative humidity for
the domain. This is done by knowing the temperature and
relative humidity at the inlet and finding the corresponding
mass fraction from a Psychrometric chart. Otherwise, you
might cross the 100% relative humidity line again.

Regards

August 7, 2007, 21:15 Re: Moisture modeling - PLEASE HELP! #7

Carlos Thats brilliant!

Guest
Thanks,
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Carlos.

October 25, 2009, 12:36 #8

denise Dear AAA,

New Member i am trying to solve humidity transfer in enclosure, every
where isolated except for ceiling..ceiling is cooled..but in
Join Date: Oct 2009 Fluent i can see temperature gradient but there is no mass
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write UDF but, what is the source term? there is no
generation of humidity in my room..how to include natural
convection using bossinique model in simple species transport
without reaction phenomenon.?please help me..
thank you

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