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He also makes a jab at Berlioz’s Romeo and Juliet Symphony. His biggest complaint
about it is that it has “extramusical” elements. In other words, Berlioz utilized elements from
Shakespeare’s play that weren’t necessarily musical. For example, he used much of iambic
pentameter of Shakespeare’s words from the play as a basis for some of his rhythms in the
work. Lutostawsky felt that people who feel the need to use “extramusical” (or
programmatic) elements to get their piece across to audience members do not have much of a
tonal imagination. I again, feel that Lutostawsky might be a bit full of himself.
As the interview progresses on, they talk about how the psychological aspects
considered in the composition of symphonic works can have an impact on the listeners’
perceptions. What really stuck out to me was Lutostawsky’s comment about how certain
composers who saw the orchestra as an instrument found to have more creativity in creating
symphonies. When creating music using musical forms like the Sonata form, there are
musical elements that he refers to as “characters”. The character was either introductory,
narrative (exposition), transitory (development), or finishing (recapitulation). When
Lutostawsky was studying the sonata forms of Beethoven, he mentions that he notes that the
composer has established “characteristics” within is music without the use of “extramusical”
elements.
Despite the fact that Lutostawsky comes off to me as a talented man with a
considerable amount of arrogance, I agree with his view on the importance on the
psychological aspect of composing symphonies.