MAN Nutzfahrzeuge AG WORKS STANDARD April 2007

Accuracy of shape
M 3199-3
Tolerances for frame side members (RLT)

Dimensions in mm

This English version is a translation. In case of doubt or conflict the valid German-language original will govern.

Contents
1 Scope and purpose
2 Specifications in drawings
3 Tolerances for frame side members
4 Machine-related dimensions
5 Checks

1 Scope and purpose

This standard defines general tolerances, several hole dimensions and production-related minimum
distances for the individual part "frame side member" (RLT) that are usually adequate for function and
assembly and that can be produced economically. The production process (such as a profiling system or
through use of dies) is left to the production department.
The requirements specified in this standard, such as tolerances and dimensions, need not be specified in
the part drawing for the RLT is suitable (function and assembly). They become part of the drawing by
reference to this standard in acc. with Section 2. Dimensions and tolerances that, for function-related,
assembly-related or production-related reasons, must be smaller or may be greater than the values in
this standard are to be specified directly in the drawing.
The tolerances specified in Table 3 apply only under the test (inspection) conditions defined in Section 5.
If there are no such specifications, the test is to be designed in acc. with the current level of technology
and, possibly, the known installation and attachment situation.
For dimensions with no tolerance either in the drawing or in this standard, the general tolerances
specified in M 3199 apply.
This standard does not apply to the RLT once installed, as in the frame or chassis.

2 Specifications in drawings
The standard number M 3199 is to be referenced in the text box (general tolerances field) in the part
drawing.
Within the framework of other changes, the RLT drawings must be adapted to the current issue of
M 3199-3, i.e. the current drawing entries must be compared with the requirements in this standard and
removed from the drawing if appropriate.

Co-responsibility for the standard: Dept. GQ Continuation Page 2 to 8

Prepared by: Vielemeyer Release TDN: Replaces: 2004-07 Material group No.:
2007-04, englisch
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3 Tolerances for frame side members

The specified values apply only under the test conditions stated in Section 5. In this regard, the general test
conditions are defined in Section 5.1, the feature-specific in Section 5.2.
For the feature-specific test conditions, the corresponding subsection has been selected:
Example: Feature - Part lengths cons. No. 12 → Feature-specific test (inspection) conditions Subsection 5.2.12
Dimensionless specification in mm

Cons. Feature Graphic illustration Tolerances Comment

No.
4000 to 7000
+4 /-2
1 L
Overall length 7001 to 12000
+6 /-3
(Plate tolerances) Normal
2 Material thickness (Nominal thicknesses, case:
t e.g. 6.8⇔7.8⇔9.3) + 0,5
- 0,1
Shape
3 Bending radius +2 variations
permissibl
e

+4
4 Flange height -2

for rib widths Priority

over
5 Overall width, outside 200 to 340
Cons. No.
+2
6
for flange heights
+ > 50
6 Angular position of the - not straightened
flange (trued):
-
+ 2°
+
1°

7 Deflection, rib, inside (-)

(rib curvature) - 0,5

Deflection, rib, outside (+)

8 (rib curvature) + 0,5
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Cons. Feature Graphic illustration Tolerances Comment

No.

Deflection, horizontal 1 mm / m length

9 (Deflection of the rib) max. 6
with reference to the
overall length

Deflection, vertical 1 mm / m length

max. 6
10 (Deflection of the flanges)
with reference to the
overall length

- +
Twisting (torsion),
11 measured at the locations ± 0.5° / m length
specified in the part
drawing max. 3°

- +

12 Segment lengths ±3

Rib offset, measured at

13 the locations specified in ±2
the part drawing

Overcut by
"flying
shears" 2
14 Chamfer at rib end max. 5

15 Chamfer) at flange end ±3

M.A.
16 Position tolerance for a ± 0,5
hole to the centre of the
axis (punch position)

17 Distance between hole ± 0,5

and reference edge
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Cons. Feature Graphic illustration Tolerances Comment

No.

18 Hole position with respect to ± 1,5

leading end RLT

19 Tolerance of functional ±1
groups with respect to one
another

20 Holes in flange ± 0,5

21 Flame cuts ±3

// 2mm/m length A

A 2 mm/m length
Structure
22 Parallelism of the offset to the with reference to the see 5.2.9
reference surface segment length

23 Holes without dimensions ∅ 15,5 + 0,2

- 0,1
80 x 45 Position
Elongated holes without tolerance
24 80 ± 0,6
dimensions
±1,5
45 ± 0,5
(Assembly holes)

4 Machine-related dimensions

Feature Production-related dimensions

Minimum distance from front edge to first bend (1) 500
Minimum distance between the bends (2) 500
Minimum distance from rear edge to last bend (3) 1320
Maximum distance from last bend to front edge (4) 4000
Minimum distance with hole diameter ∅ 11.1 28,5
measured form hole edge to hole edge ∅ 13.1 28,5
or hole edge to inside edge of body ∅ 15.5 28,5
∅ 16,2 28,5
∅ 19,1 28,5
∅ 20,1 31,0
∅ 22,1 28,5
∅ 23,1 28,5
∅ 25,1 33,5
∅ 45,1 48,5
∅ 60,1 56,5
80.1 x 45.1 63,5
Minimum distance with flange ∅ 11.1 22,0
measured form hole edge to hole edge ∅ 13.1 22,0
or hole edge to inside edge of body ∅ 15.5 22,0
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5 Checks
5.1 General test conditions

5.1.1 Effect of temperature

Frame side members are long parts for which the effect of heat on the length must be taken into account. For
this reason, the production and test temperatures should differ from one another as little as possible. When
testing, any temperature difference should be noted.

5.1.2 Aligning the RLT on the measurement set-up:

The RLT must be placed on the rib, since the flange ends can fall within a
tolerance band of 6 mm (+4, -2) (see Section 3 cons. No. 4) and
and, as a result, an angled orientation cannot be excluded. Clamping of the
RLT is necessary, since it twists within the tolerance (see Section 3
cons. No. 11) and can bow both vertically (see Section 3 cons. Nr. 10) as well as horizontally (see Section 3
cons. No. 9).
Clamping also serves to locate the RLT during the measurement process.
The reference line in the Y direction (marking gauge) is the outside edge of the truss (watch for deviating
specifications in the part drawing). Depending on the "vertical deflection", this line is a more
or less regular curve which is followed by the zero point of the reference curve.
Fixed points are located 100 mm from the leading and trailing ends of the RLT.

5.2 Feature-specific test conditions

The tolerances specified in Section 3 apply under the following test conditions:

5.2.1 Feature 3.1: Overall length

The overall length is defined as the largest distance between the RLT ends parallel to the lengthwise axis of
the RLT. The chamfers at the rib and flange ends are thus included in the overall length.

5.2.2 Feature 3.2: Material thickness

The thickness tolerance must lie within the specified plate tolerances at any point at a distance of more than
25 mm from the end of the radius.

5.2.3 Feature 3.3: Bending radius

Shape deviations from profiling permissible (process-related).

5.2.4 Feature 3.4: Flange height

The reference surface on the rib for measurement of the flange height is the region extending 4 mm past the
end of the radius.

d d+R+4
R

5.2.5 Feature 3.5: Overall width, outside

The reference surface at the flange for measurement of the rib width is the region extending up to 4 mm past
the end of the radius.

4+R+
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5.2.6 Feature 3.6: Angular position of the flange, not straightened (trued)
The reference surface on the rib for measurement of the angular position of the flange is the region extending
up to 4 mm past the end of the radius.

d+R+4
R

5.2.7 Feature 3.7: Deflection, rib, inside

The reference surface at the flange for measurement of the deflection is the region extending up to 4 mm past
the end of the radius.

d d+R+4
R
Measurement
range

d+R+4

5.2.8 Feature 3.8: Deflection, rib, outside

The reference surface at the flange for measurement of the deflection is the region extending up to 4 mm past
the end of the radius.

d d+R+4
R
Measurement
range

d+R+4

5.2.9 Feature 3.9: Deflection, horizontal (with vertical structure)

- Mountings at centre segment length from below on flange.
- Position support pillars to dimension and at right angles to the direction of the reference surface.
- Push and clamp RLT at centre of the segment lengths against the support surfaces.
- The measurement of the surfaces occurs in each case 100 mm past the end of the radius or the leading or
trailing end of the RLT.

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5.2.10 Feature 3.10: Deflection, vertical (with horizontal structure)

- No clamping
- Support from the outside on the flange in the installed orientation

5.2.11 Feature 3.11: Twisting

Freely supported at three points within 100 mm from leading and trailing ends of the RLT.
100 mm 100 mm

1 point - frame centre, front 2 points at end

Twist over entire length, horizontally
measured with a spirit level straightened (trued)

5.2.12 Feature 3.12: Part lengths to the leading end of the RLT
The chamfers at the rib and flange ends are included in the segment lengths at the leading and trailing ends.
Otherwise measured from the centre of the radius.

5.2.13 Feature 3.13: Rib offset

The offset is measured 100 mm past the end of the radius.

100 100
R

5.2.14 Feature 3.14: Chamfer at the rib end

No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.15 Feature 3.15 Chamfer at the flange end

No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.16 Feature 3.16: Position tolerance of a hole with respect to the reference line (punch position)
No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.17 Feature 3.17: Distance of a hole from the reference edge

No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.
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5.2.18 Feature 3.18: Hole position with respect to leading end RLT
No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.19 Feature 3.19: Tolerance of functional groups with respect to one another
No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.20 Feature 3.20: Holes in flange

No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.21 Feature 3.21: Flame cuts

No feature-specific test conditions specified beyond the general test conditions.

5.2.22 Feature 3.22: Parallelism of the offset to the reference surface

Measuring points: Definition of the surfaces with at least 6 points evenly distributed.

Standards quoted
M 3199 Shaping accuracy, general tolerances for MN, selection, drawing data

Previous issues: M 3199-3 / 2004-07

Changes: Compared to issue 2004-07 the following changes have been made:
- Section 2 Clause for adaptation of the drawing to the standard added
- Section 3 Cons. No. 6 Prefix for deviation in angular position added
- Section 3 Cons. No. 9 and 10 Comment in brackets added
- Section 3 Cons. No. 11 Prefix for twisting of angular position added
- Section 3 Cons. No. 16 Position tolerance of a hole to centre axis defined
- Section 3 Cons. No. 24 Parallelism of the offset to reference surface added
- Section 5.2.9 Deflection, horizontal (with vertical structure) shown
- Section 5.2.10 Deflection, vertical (with horizontal structure) shown
- Section 5.2.12 Measurement from centre radius added
- Section 5.2.13 Mounting points 500 mm in front of and behind the bend and
mounting from inside on rib removed
- Section 5.2.22 Parallelism of the offset to reference surface added