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Response to comment by R. M. W. Musson [on “Comparison between


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Eos, Vol. 86, No. 39, 27 September 2005
markable. I hope that so far as Eos is concerned, Musson, R. M.W. (1999), Determination of design Wang, Z., and L. Ormsbee (2005), Comparison
earthquakes in seismic hazard analysis through between probabilistic seismic hazard analysis and
this matter can now be considered closed. Monte Carlo simulation, J. Earthquake Eng., 3, flood frequency analysis, Eos Trans.AGU, 86(5), 45,
463–474. 51–52.
References Musson, R. M.W. (2004), Comment on “Communicating Wang, Z.-M., E.W.Woolery, B.-P. Shi, and J. D. Kiefer
with uncertainty: A critical issue with probabilistic (2003), Communicating with uncertainty: A critical
Bommer, J. J., et al. (2004),The challenge of defining seismic hazard analysis,” Eos Trans.AGU, 85(24), issue with probabilistic seismic hazard analysis,
upper bounds on earthquake ground motions, 235–236. Eos Trans.AGU, 84(46), 501, 506, 508.
Seismol. Res. Lett., 75(1), 82–95. National Research Council (1988), Probabilistic
McGuire, R. K. (1995), Probabilistic seismic hazard seismic hazard analysis: Report of the Panel on
analysis and design earthquakes: Closing the loop, Seismic Hazard Analysis, 97 pp., Natl.Acad. Press, —R. M.W. MUSSON, British Geological Survey,
Bull. Seismol. Soc.Am., 85(6), 1275–1284. Washington, D. C. Edinburgh, U.K.; E-mail: rmwm@bgs.ac.uk

Response to Comment by R. M. W. Musson References


Cornell, C.A. (1968), Engineering seismic risk analysis,
PAGE 354 related to the inputs.” Musson stated that “this Bull. Seismol. Soc.Am., 58, 1583–1606.
Musson’s comment on our article is a good was true in 1988. It is not true now,” referring to Hanks,T., and C.A. Cornell (1994), Probabilistic
seismic hazard analysis: A beginner’s guide, in Pro-
example of “the inability of PSHA propo- McGuire [1995] and another paper by himself. ceedings of the Fifth Symposium on Current Issues
nents to communicate clearly and directly to I do not know how Musson addressed the Related to Nuclear Power Plant Structures, Equip-
anyone but themselves just what it is that they Aki Committee’s finding. McGuire [1995], ment and Piping, pp. I/1-1–I/1-17, N. C. State Univ.,
are doing”[Hanks and Cornell, 1994, p. I/1-1]. however, stated,“A disadvantage of PSHA is Raleigh.
McGuire, R. K. (1995), Probabilistic seismic hazard
Musson’s [2004] comment on an earlier that the concept of a ‘design earthquake’ is analysis and design earthquakes: Closing the loop,
paper by Wang et al. [2003] was addressed lost; i.e., there is no single event (specified, in Bull. Seismol. Soc.Am., 85, 1275–1284.
in a response by Wang et al. [2004]. However, simplest terms, by a magnitude and distance) Musson, R. M.W. (2004), Comment on “Communicat-
it seems that Musson is still sure he is right that represents the earthquake threat at, for ing with uncertainty: A critical issue with probabilis-
tic seismic hazard analysis,” Eos Trans.AGU, 85(24),
and Wang et al. are all wrong when he says, example, the 10,000-yr ground-motion level… 235–236.
“I pointed out [Musson, 2004] the fallacies This disadvantage was recognized by the Aki National Research Council (1988), Probabilistic
in a paper by Wang et al. [2003].These errors Committee [National Research Council, 1988], seismic hazard analysis: Report of the Panel on
are now repeated by Wang and Ormsbee [2005], which recommended that a “recursive” PSHA Seismic Hazard Analysis, 97 pp., Natl.Acad. Press,
Washington, D. C.
who refer back to Wang et al. [2003] but not be performed to determine the dominant Wang, Z., and L. Ormsbee (2005), Comparison
to Musson [2004].” Now Musson is trying to earthquake at any particular hazard level.” between probabilistic seismic hazard analysis and
impose his self-righteousness on the whole McGuire [1995] recognized the Aki Commit- flood frequency analysis, Eos Trans.AGU, 86(5), 45,
scientific community by asking Eos not to tee’s finding and developed a method (deag- 51–52.
Wang, Z., E.W. Woolery, B.-P. Shi, and J. D. Kiefer (2003),
publish any paper that contains a point of gregation) to address it. In other words, the Aki Communicating with uncertainty: A critical issue
view different from his. Committee’s finding was still true in McGuire’s with probabilistic seismic hazard analysis, Eos Trans.
We demonstrated [Wang and Ormsbee, paper. So it is still true now. AGU, 84(46), 501, 506, 508.
2005] that “the predicted PGA (peak ground PSHA was originally developed from the anal- Wang, Z., E.Woolery, B. Shi, and J. Kiefer (2004), Reply
to comment on “Communicating with uncertainty:
acceleration) corresponding to the total an- ogous flood or wind problem by Cornell [1968]. A critical issue with probabilistic seismic hazard
nual probability of exceedance is a statistical This directly contradicts Musson’s statement, analysis,” Eos Trans.AGU, 85(24), 236.
measure and does not have a clear physical “this obviously does not have a clear analogue
meaning.”This was one of the conclusions for flood hazard.” We felt it was logical and ben- —ZHENMING WANG, Kentucky Geological Survey,
reached by the Aki Committee [National eficial to compare PSHA with flood frequency University of Kentucky, Lexington
Research Council, 1988], which noted “the ag- analysis and to demonstrate how they are being
gregated results of PSHA are not always easily used in risk analyses.

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