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SAS 70
of the cloud’s potential for rapid
deployment.
Recently, Sun National began Type II certification,
offering mobile banking, a feat an audit that assesses
accomplished in less than four internal controls in a
service organization.
months with cloud services, accord-
ing to Angelo Valletta, senior vice
president and CIO of the Vineland,
N.J.-based bank. Sun National now payment companies and merchants
offers Short Message Service, or for mobile banking and payments.
SMS, texting for account informa- Sun National required mFoundry
tion inquiries; browser access to to have SAS 70 Type II certification,
its website from Internet-enabled an audit that assesses the internal
WHAT CIOS
“You need to
Server virtualization
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understand what …
you’re moving
to the cloud.”
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FOR CLOUD CEO, Securosis LLC
C I O P R I O R I T I ES W H AT ’ S T H I S ?
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Q U I C K Q U O TA B L E
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INROADS WITH “President Obama’s [IT] budget re-
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quest for 2011 has a page dedicated
to cloud computing that outlines
such goals as increased efficiencies,
saving taxpayer dollars and becom-
ing more strategic about building IT
infrastructures. [Cloud computing]
is not a mandate, but when the pres-
ident asks that you consider some-
thing, people listen.”
—PARHAM EFTEKHARI, co-founder and director of research, Government Technology Research Alliance
ONE ON ONE
Cloud Clears Up
Email Conundrum
NAME: Jay Kenney
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TITLE: CIO
TIME IN THIS ROLE: Two years
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COMPANY: Lincoln Property Co.
HEADQUARTERS: Dallas
EMPLOYEES: 4,000
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AS CIO OF Lincoln Property Co., one
of the nation’s largest residential
WHAT CIOS property management and develop- Jay Kenney
WANT FROM ment companies, Jay Kenney has
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made it his mission to outsource
applications and infrastructure going to buy more servers we need
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management wherever possible. In to look at virtualization,” and there
THE CASE addition to having his ERP system was an up-front cost to that. So
FOR CLOUD
and customer portal under manage- those were the drivers—we were
ment by a Software as a Service going to have to do something from
provider, his latest outsourcing en- a hardware perspective, and typical-
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TACTICAL APPS ees from Novell GroupWise to mission-critical systems. The only
Google Apps. thing left in the data center that I
would call critical was email.
Why did you decide it was time
to move to a new email system? What options did you consider?
The real trigger was our email First we did the business case, and
archive had gotten to a size that we that went before the executive
couldn’t back it up [internally]. Also, steering committee of C-level exec-
all of our backups and archives were utives and senior vice presidents.
on a SAN that was old, and it was We looked at continuing to use
just a matter of time before we were GroupWise or an internal Exchange
going to have to replace it. We also solution instead, outsourced
had some other projects coming Exchange from Microsoft and
down the pike, and we were going another vendor, and then Google
to need some servers for those. So Apps. Google Apps was kind of just
it was at the point of, “Well, if we’re thrown in there as part of the busi-
ness case. It wasn’t the leading difficult piece, getting the users
contender going into it. The leading across the company comfortable
contender was either insourcing or with the new system. It took a while
outsourcing Exchange. to do that. We moved about 75
users per week, but a lot of that was
What led you to Google Apps we really had to scrub our data
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instead, then? because of corrupted emails in our
The business case to go to Google system. I don’t think you would run
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Apps was very compelling. It was a into that on an Exchange conversion.
lot cheaper than anything else out
there.
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How much cheaper was it?
A Forrester [Research] article out
ment was really
WHAT CIOS there quotes the cost of email as the difficult piece,
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something like $25 per month, per getting the users
user for an in-house solution, and across the company
for Google Apps it was $8 or $9 per
user, per month. So it was about
comfortable with
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THE CASE one-third of what we were spending the new system.
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internally, if you took in all the costs
and ran it over five years, including
one hardware refresh in there. So How did you phase in
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in that five years, it was about one- the new email?
TACTICAL APPS third of what we were going to I put C-levels on Google Apps
spend in-house on email per user before the rest of the business. They
and for email archiving. gave it a go and we did a trial with
a regional office, and that was with
What were some of the [our integration partner] Cloud
other benefits from the move? Sherpas. We pretty much did a full
Another benefit for the business migration there as we would with
that came along with going to everyone else [in the company]. We
Google Apps was redundancy. I were basically testing our process
didn’t say, “Let’s create a redundant and our ability to execute, as well as
environment internally.” It was a getting that regional office up and
side benefit. trained and getting their feedback
on, “OK, is this something we really
What was the most difficult should do,” and they gave us the go-
aspect of the email conversion? ahead as well. That’s when we cut
Change management was really the over full scale. —CHRISTINA TORODE
Cloud
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CIOs are cautiously deciphering the value of the cloud.
BY CHRISTINA TORODE AND LINDA TUCCI
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asset in our organization that carries ment agencies it serves. Called the
depreciation. I would like to find a NBC Cloud, agencies can have their
way to be as flexible as I can for the applications hosted on NBC’s main-
business. I do not ever want to have frame or x86 servers. The offering
to say no to the business to a viable already includes hosted collabora-
opportunity.” tion, issue and bug tracking tools
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and blogging applications. Upcom-
ing offerings will include a software
Many CIOs’ cloud development tool environment, cus-
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plans are still in tomer portal and file storage.
the works, and in ■ Bill Oates, CIO of the city of
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turn their hopes Boston, said he’s talking to “like-
for cloud comput- minded cities” about ways to devel-
WHAT CIOS
WANT FROM
ing have yet to op and share applications in the
cloud. “Think of applications like 311
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iPhone, and how we could work with
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The caveat? One of the challenges other cities to develop such applica-
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swift adoption of cloud services is have to build out [our own] systems
that it’s locked into assets that can’t and infrastructure for those applica-
be disposed of right away. tions,” he said.
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TACTICAL APPS CIO Vivek Kundra to save money But many CIOs’ cloud plans are
and go green, many public-sector still in the works, and in turn their
CIOs are developing cloud services hopes for cloud computing have yet
for other agencies and the public or to be realized, or their misgivings
are in talks to develop private clouds: assuaged. As Rich Secor, CIO of
Health Advances in Weston, Mass.,
■ The Ames Research Center said so succinctly, consider this ver-
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Making the
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Case for Cloud
Even the easy sells are hard.
BY LINDA TUCCI AND CHRISTINA TORODE
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WANT FROM WHEN JOE DROUIN joined Kelly Serv- for me to grab onto and use as a
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ices Inc. as CIO two years ago, the linchpin for shaping a sharp right-
Troy, Mich.-based company was in hand turn for how we would be
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the midst of a business transforma- delivering IT solutions for Kelly.”
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service famous for its female clerical coupled with a perpetual campaign
temps was fast becoming a global to educate the business on the risks
solutions provider, supplying soft- and benefits of cloud computing—
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TACTICAL APPS yers, scientists and other profes- of that “perfect platform.” Email
sionals of both genders to the world’s now is hosted in Microsoft’s multi-
largest and not-so-big companies. tenant cloud environment, using
“When I came in, I had to the software vendor’s Business
reassess IT strategy to be able to Productivity Online Standard Suite.
deliver solutions that would span Drouin’s team is also developing
the close to 40 countries Kelly was and hosting enterprise business
operating in and reach customers applications in the Force.com cloud,
and suppliers, regardless of where a seismic shift for a company that
they were located,” Drouin recalled. relied heavily on off-the-shelf soft-
The $5 billion company lacked the ware. As a result, the business is
infrastructure to reach all its offices seeing IT in a whole new light.
and branches, let alone a global con- “I’ve actually used cloud comput-
stituency of clients and suppliers. ing as a rallying point to demon-
Cloud computing was starting to strate to the company that IT was
take off. “It was a perfect platform thinking differently, was willing to
closely with his existing legal, com- ably disqualify them as somebody
pliance, security and human re- I could do business with,” he said,
sources people to get the controls adding that he knows exactly where
and security necessary to help en- the Microsoft environment sits.
sure the data was not at risk. In Likewise with Salesforce.com Inc.
addition, he recruited an experi- and the small company outside
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risk and compliance globally—a first
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for Kelly. “She became pivotal in the “We are bound
analysis we did for cloud computing
and the due diligence we followed.”
by a lot of data
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key, agreed Denis Edwards, global around who can
CIO at Manpower Inc., a Milwau-
kee-based job placement firm with
handle data, how
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in 82 countries. Edwards has con- where it resides.”
solidated email in 30 countries, also —DENIS EDWARDS,
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using the Microsoft cloud platform. global CIO, Manpower Inc.
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learned is that if you don’t do the
communication about governance, Boston that hosts a Kelly Services
there are lot of misses and a lot of recruiting tool.
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potential risks,” he told an audience The Microsoft email application,
TACTICAL APPS of CIOs and CEOs at last month’s which Drouin characterized as
Fusion conference in Madison, Wis. geared more for small and medium-
Most of Manpower’s business, sized businesses, also had to be
89%, is outside the United States. modified to meet data management
“We are bound by a lot of data requirements. Drouin got Microsoft
privacy laws around who can handle “to build in things like retention poli-
data, how it is handled and where cies and mechanisms for e-discov-
it resides. Our data privacy people ery”—without jacking up the price,
are very involved in the governance,” by the way. “By being early in, we
he said. had a lot of opportunity to work with
Because of its global operations, Microsoft to meet the compliance
Kelly Services also had to be mindful and legal needs we asked for.”
of where its data resides, Drouin Indeed, Drouin acknowledged, a
said. “At this point, if somebody good deal of the value proposition
couldn’t guarantee me where the in Kelly’s cloud arrangements has
data is going to sit, that would prob- stemmed from signing up early. “Be-
ing on the leading edge gave us a lot 70% of the development, where
of leverage with the vendor,” he said. there is no going back, and then to
realize there is an unknown in what
we’re buying is a problem,” Drouin
A GUT-WRENCHING SURPRISE said. In retrospect, he said he saw
Even so, Drouin said CIOs shouldn’t “some gray areas” in the negotia-
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underestimate how difficult it is to tions—on both sides of the table.
do the financial modeling for the “I don’t know that they always know
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pay-by-user, pay-per-transaction exactly what they are selling you
approach used by cloud providers. either, especially in a deal done a
IT departments accustomed to buy- year and a half ago.”
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assumption tested. resolve it in a positive way. “Even in
“More than anything else, our eyes this case I have found the vendors
WHAT CIOS are much more wide open now,” he much more flexible than what I’ve
WANT FROM said. “In the cloud you are going out been used to dealing with from
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and activating certain components large, out-of-the-box software ven-
of somebody else’s platform and dors,” he said. “You just hate to be
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sometimes finding out later on that caught at that point in the project
THE CASE the ability to do x or y doesn’t exist and realize there is a key piece miss-
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with what you have bought.” ing, after touting the flexibility and
There were assumptions, espe- scalability.”
cially in the early contracts, that his In fact, Manpower’s Edwards
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team made, only to find out later warned that CIOs should not make
TACTICAL APPS that the terms were not so black and any assumptions about the econom-
white. An example would be the ics of cloud. “Cloud is not always
supplier portal “tipping point” proj- cheaper. Cloud is cheaper for very
ect. Halfway through the project, elastic applications. It is not cheap
members of Drouin’s team realized for high-transaction volumes. And
that the Force.com component they even with elastic applications, we
needed in order to give supplier have looked at models that say it is
companies shared access to the better to put something in cloud now
records within the system was not without capital outlay, but at some
included in what they bought. The point, as we see the applications
licenses for the Force.com compo- scale, it might be better to bring it
nent that did allow that access cost back into our private cloud.” ■
10 times per user seat than the
licenses that Drouin bought. Christina Torode is news director of SearchCIO.
com. Write to her at ctorode@techtarget.com.
“To get to the point where you are Linda Tucci is a senior news writer for Search-
already committed, already done CIO.com. Write to her at ltucci@techtarget.com.
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Off-the-shelf
apps are getting
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first priority.
BY ED SCANNELL
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WHILE SOME CIOS are hesitant about 1,000 employees use cloud services
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moving critical applications and in some fashion,” said R. “Ray” Wang,
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number are beginning to deploy a Altimeter Group.
variety of cloud-based services to Companies dipping their toes in
replace less strategic products and the cloud services waters for the
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TACTICAL APPS CIOs’ growing confidence—some ing no-frills, off-the-shelf versions of
might say more of a growing curiosi- their ERP and customer relationship
ty—in cloud services stems from a management (CRM) applications.
combination of constant industry They have also shown a preference
chatter about them the past few for adding cloud services to replace
years, their potential for significant meat-and-potatoes, internal-facing
cost savings in tough economic applications dealing with human
times, and the prospect of gaining resources and accounting.
competitive advantages in their “Companies are taking specific
respective markets. off-the-shelf applications out of the
“Large organizations are adopting data center and replacing them with
cloud services at an increased pace, cloud-based apps and services,
but will they rip out their old data things that don’t have a lot of cus-
centers and go with cloud services tom elements to them like ERP,
right away? Probably not. But 52% human capital management and
of organizations with more than sales force stuff,” said Dana Gard-
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