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08 review process. Websites don't go through a review


09 process.
10 If you launch a website and it can access
11 underlying functionality like maybe your contacts,
12 suddenly every website you go to has the potential
13 of stealing your information. Stealing your data.
14 And that's something that we want to disallow.
15 So a web app essentially is a website that
16 you say make a web app version of this. And all
17 that does is it takes all of these files, these
18 HTML, these JavaScript files, and puts it into a
19 small container, and it lives on the springboard, on
20 the home screen, if you will, of your iOS device.
21 It looks like an app. It's an icon. But
22 it's a web app. You're not going to have a lot of
23 functionality there. You click it. It's just like
24 saving a Safari link on your desktop and launching
25 an app. So there's a lot of limited functionality.
00251:01 You can't do as much there.
02 Q So at bottom, would you say that a web app
03 is no substitute for a true iOS app?
04 A Yes, I would.


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24 Q. And you say, for example, the risks of


25 viruses. That's one you identify, correct?
00101:01 A. Correct.
02 Q. Another one is: Harder to switch
03 processors.
04 Why is it harder to switch processors?
05 A. Yeah, this is a really big deal. When you
06 have a native app, it is compiled into the
07 instruction set of a specific processor. For
08 instance, if you're on a Windows machine now-a-days,
09 it's probably compiled into an Intel instruction set.
10 And what we had found when I -- you know,
11 I've worked at NeXT and we had actually switched
12 processors and then at Apple we had switched
13 processors again, if you have natively compiled apps
14 out there, that native binary will not just run on
15 your new processor. You have multiple options for
16 this.
17 And so we talked earlier about this when we
18 brought up macOS 10 that we had, you know, like
19 Classic, but that's this, this blue box Classic
20 emulation mode that tries to take those processor
21 instructions and convert them into one that can run
22 on the new processor.
23 So in this case when I'm talking about was a
24 risk, well, if Apple is building only natively
25 compile applications and third parties are building
00102:01 web applications, a huge advantage to those third
02 parties of those web apps is no matter what Apple
03 does with the processor, those keep running, because
04 they're interpreted.
05 So each time you get a new, if Apple
06 switches iPhone -- this is true today. If Apple
07 switches to a new processor those web apps have this
08 big advantage that they just keep running going
09 forward, because interpreted on the -- on the
10 processor.
11 And if Apple is running all -- all native
12 apps come from Apple, then to introduce a new phone
13 with a new processor, all you need to do is Apple
14 will recompile every one of those apps, the source
15 code to those apps, to the new processor and then
16 release it.
17 The liability here is if you now have third
18 party natively compiled apps and you want to bring
19 out a new processor which you think will be faster,
20 more security, whatever, and there will be advantages
21 this new processor might have, and there are third
22 party native apps in the marketplace that customers
23 are relying upon, you have to find some solution for
24 those customers.
25 The solution could be convince the
00103:01 developers to take that source code and recompile it
02 for the new processor. Which might work. But if
03 that, let's say that company is out of business or no
04 longer is staffing that app any more, doesn't want to
05 put in the amount of money and time and effort it
06 would take to recompile that, you get stuck.
07 So then you -- look, do you simulate it also
08 or do you have customers now who are left not being
09 able to buy a new iPhone because doing so would then
10 disable functionality in the form third party apps
11 they've come to rely upon for their business.
12 Q. So essentially you get breakage with some of
13 the third party apps potentially if you switch
14 processors?
15 A. Correct?


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15 reviewer will in general launch an app and do some


16 things with the app; not a comprehensive test.
17 That's why I made the emphasis here on that
18 differentiation.


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08 changing trends in public focus,"


09 correct?
10 A Yes.
11 Q And you responded (as read):
12 "Let the parents make a decision,"
13 correct?
14 A Yes.


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