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MODERATORS: MR. SHREEGOPAL JAJU MR. M. M MIYAJIWALA MR. UTSAV SHAH MR. B. N GARUDACHAR
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Moderator:
Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Voltas 2Q FY 11 Results Conference Call, hosted by B&K Securities. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of todays presentation. If you should need assistance during the conference, please signal an operator by pressing * and 0 on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Shreegopal Jaju. Thank you and over to you Sir.
Shreegopal Jaju:
Good Afternoon everybody. I would like to welcome Mr. Miyajiwala, Mr. Garudachar, and Mr. Utsav for 2Q FY 11 post result conference call. I would to request Mr. Miyajiwala to give a brief overview on the results followed by Q&A. Over to you Sir.
B. N Garudachar:
Good afternoon. This is Garudachar from Voltas. Let me first welcome you to the Voltas conference call to discuss the second quarter results of this year. We have with us as Jaju rightly said Executive Vice President Finance, Mr. Miyajiwala, Mr. Utsav Shah CFO, Central SMC and service. Now let me start the discussion rolling by requesting Utsav Shah to give you a brief analysis of the results.
Utsav Shah:
We present the results for the quarter ended 30th September, 2010.
Turnover of the Company for the quarter was marginally lower at Rs. 1064 crores against Rs. 1089 crores in the same quarter last year. However, on a half-yearly basis, the turnover stands at Rs. 2467 crores against Rs. 2314 crores last year, an increase of 7%. Margins are at 10% and amount to Rs. 118 crores against the previous years Rs. 133 crores. Profit after tax (after minority interest) for the quarter stands at Rs. 92 crores, against Rs. 90 crores earned last year. For the half year, PAT is Rs. 186 crores against Rs. 169 crores in the previous year. During the quarter, the Company earned Rs. 18 crores in Exceptional Income relating to disposal of part of the surplus property. As explained below, the profits for Segment A Electro-Mechanical Projects and Services were much lower at Rs. 58 crores compared to Rs. 90 crores in the same quarter last year. This reduction in profitability is due to the factors described below, some of these being of a non-operational/non-recurring nature. These are further explained under 'segment results': Exchange loss during the quarter of Rs. 9 crores (total for the Company around Rs. 13 crores) Formation-related costs for new Joint Venture Companies Rs. 4 crores Fall in profitability of the international subsidiaries and joint ventures Rs. 4 crores Adjustment relating to prior periods in the profits of one of the subsidiaries arising out of complete review and detailed audit over Rs. 10 crores Slow movement of jobs in Domestic Projects business, and change in internal policy for compulsory provision against receivables of over 2 years, resulting in lower profits compared to the same period last year by Rs. 5 crores. Performance of Segment B and C have improved significantly. Some highlights for the quarter are as under: Net Turnover and Other Income of the Company for the quarter is Rs. 1065 crores or US$ 240 million @ Rs. 44.40 (the rate was Rs. 46.65 = US$1 per end of June 2010) Operating Profit of Rs. 118 crores, or US$ 27 million Net Worth is at Rs. 1270 crores, or US$ 286 million Market Cap of Rs. 6826 crores, or US$ 1.5 billion. Some highlights for the half year are as under: Turnover and Other Income of the Company for the half year is Rs. 2473 crores or US$ 557 million @ Rs. 44.40 = US$ 1 Operating Profit of Rs. 255 crores, or US$ 57 million
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Consolidated results include Voltas stand-alone results and the results of the following Subsidiaries and Joint Ventures: Subsidiaries: Segment A Weathermaker Ltd. a company manufacturing ducts and allied products, based in Jebel Ali Free Trade Zone, Dubai, Isle of Man, UAE. (100%) Rohini Industrial Electricals Ltd. an electrical contracting company based in Mumbai, India (83.67%) Saudi Ensas Company for Engineering Services WLL an MEP contracting company based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (100%) Segment C Universal Comfort Products Ltd. a company manufacturing unitary air-conditioners, both window and split units, with manufacturing facility based in Pant Nagar, India (100%) Others Simto Investment Company an investment company based in India (95.57%) Unallocated VIL Overseas Enterprises B. V. an Investment arm of the Company based in Netherlands (100%) Voice Antilles N. V. an Investment arm of the Company based in Antilles, Netherlands, which is under closure (100%)
Joint Ventures Segment A Universal Voltas LLC a MEP contracting company based in Abu Dhabi, UAE (49%) Universal Weathermaker Factory LLC a Duct manufacturing company based in Abu Dhabi, UAE (49%) Naba Diganta Water Management Ltd., - a company in water supply business based in Kolkata, India (26%) Others Lalbuksh Voltas Engineering Services & Trading LLC a contracting company based in Muscat, Oman (49%)
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Q u a rte r PY CY
Inc r e a s e in TO EBIT DA M a r gin Inc r e a s e in P r ofit be fo r e Ex c e ptiona l Ite m s Inc r e a s e in P BT Inc r e a s e in P AT Inc r e a s e in P r ofit a fte r M in or ity In te r e s t a n d S h a r e o f P r ofit of As s oc ia te Ta x a tio n a s p e r c e nta g e o f P BT P o s itive EV A EP S (Re .) EP S be for e Ex c e ptiona l ite m s ne t of ta x (Re .) -2 % 1 2 .3 % -1 2 % 2% -2 % 2% 33% 17% 2 .7 9 2 .4 3 24% 0 .0 7 11% 1 3 .1 % 52% 47% 50% 48% 31% 24% 2 .7 3 2 .7 3 39% 0 .1 0
C u m u la tiv e PY CY
7% 1 1 .8 % 3% 8% 7% 10% 32% 17% 5 .6 1 5 .2 7 27% 0 .0 7 14% 1 1 .8 % 29% 17% 18% 17% 32% 24% 5 .1 2 5 .0 6 36% 0 .1 0
Qu a rte r CY PY
Inc re a s e in TO EBITDA M a rgin Inc re a s e in P rofit be fore Ex c e ptiona l Ite m s Inc re a s e in P BT Inc re a s e in P AT Ta x a tion a s pe rc e nta ge of P BT P os itive EV A EP S (Re .) EP S be fore Ex c e ptiona l ite m s ne t of ta x (Re .) Turnove r pe r Rupe e of Em ploye e Cos t (Rs .) - Dom e s tic - Inte rna tiona l Re turn on Ne t W orth (w /o Ex c e ptiona l Ite m s ) De bt / Equity ra tio 1 7 /5 /28% 0 .0 5 1 5 /5 /37% 0 .0 7 8% 1 2 .8 % 5% 20% 21% 32% 19% 2 .9 6 2 .5 9 7% 1 2 .8 % 35% 31% 30% 33% 24% 2 .4 3 2 .4 4
C u m u la tiv e CY PY
14% 1 1 .7 % 10% 17% 18% 32% 19% 5 .5 2 5 .1 6 11% 1 1 .5 % 19% 6% 5% 33% 24% 4 .6 6 4 .6 1
1 9 /5 /29% 0 .0 5
1 6 /5 /35% 0 .0 7
EBITDA margins for the quarter at 12.3% are better compared to the previous year, with better margins in Engineering and Unitary Cooling Product businesses. Electro-Mechanical business, the core business of the Company, comprises 66% of the total turnover. About 53% of turnover of this segment has come from International Operations.
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C o n s o l i d a te d S e g m e n t R e v e n u e a n d R e s u l ts
F o r th e q u a rte r e n d e d 30 th S e p te m b e r, 201 0
Segment Revenue % of Total Quarter ended 30-Sep-2010 Results % of Total % of Results to Revenue 8.2% 20.9% 12.5% 21.7% 10.7% Cap. Empl. ROIC (Annuali sed) Revenue % of Total Quarter ended 30-Sep-2009 Results % of Total % of Cap. Results Empl. to Revenue 11.7% 18.3% 9.5% 13.8% 12.0% ROIC (Annuali sed)
R s . In L a k h s
a) Segment - A Growth over PY b) Segment - B Growth over PY c) Segment - C Growth over PY d) Others Growth over PY TOTAL : Growth over PY
70,655 -8.1% 12,668 8.3% 22,813 18.1% 258 -74.9% 106,394 -2.4%
5,797 51.1% -35.4% 2,642 23.3% 23.3% 2,857 25.2% 55.3% 56 0.5% -60.6% 11,352 100.0% -13.4%
24,442 94.9% 598.9% 9,802 107.8% -22.1% 25,100 45.5% 143.9% 726 30.9% -1.9% 60,070 75.6% 121.5%
76,922 70.6% 8,977 68.5% 21.8% 52.8% 11,695 10.7% 2,143 16.4% -27.7% -9.2% 19,316 17.7% 1,840 14.0% 24.3% 297.4% 1,027 142 0.9% 1.1% -63.4% -54.0% 108,960 100.0% 13,102 100.0% 11.6% 45.5%
3,497 1026.8% 5.8% 12,589 68.1% 12.2% 10,292 71.5% -62.0% 740 76.8% -58.5% 27,118 193.3% -37.5%
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C o n s o l i d a te d S e g m e n t R e v e n u e a n d R e s u l ts
F o r th e h a lf y e a r e n d e d 30th S e p te m b e r, 201 0
Segment Half year ended 30th September 2010 Revenue % of Total Results % of Total
Rs. In Lakhs
Half year ended 30th September 2009 % of Results % of Total Results to Revenue 15,092 61.1% 10.3% 52.1% 3,724 15.1% 16.1% -17.2% 5,613 22.7% 9.5% 34.2% 287 1.2% 12.5% -38.9% 24,716 100.0% 10.7% 29.6% Cap. Empl. ROIC
(Annualis ed)
a) Segment - A Growth over PY b) Segment - B Growth over PY c) Segment - C Growth over PY d) Others Growth over PY TOTAL : Growth over PY
139,912 -4.8% 24,702 7.0% 81,489 37.8% 634 -72.4% 246,737 6.6%
% of Cap. ROIC Revenue % of Results Empl. (Annuali Total to sed) Revenue 45.8% 8.3% 24,442 95.4% 146,933 63.5% 31.7% 598.9% 21.2% 21.9% 9,802 110.2% 23,089 10.0% -22.5% -22.1% 32.7% 10.2% 25,100 66.4% 59,154 25.6% 6.3% 143.9% 0.3% 10.4% 726 2,298 1.0% -54.4% -1.9% 100.0% 10.3% 60,070 84.7% 231,474 100.0% 14.5% 121.5%
3,497 5.8% 12,589 12.2% 10,292 -62.0% 740 -58.5% 27,118 -37.5%
133.0% 182.3%
S e g m e n tw i s e l i s t o f c o m p a n i e s
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OVERALL
In summary, the growth prospects seem reasonably positive. Expectations are for the second half to be better than the first half. The overall domestic economic scenario looks mixed. The available statistics indicate that while capital expenditure in the Hotels and Restaurants sector showed a growth of 6% in the previous year, there was a de-growth of 2% in the first quarter of the current year. Similarly, Commercial Complexes-related Capex de-grew by 11% against a growth of 5%, and Industrial software parks de-grew by 90% against positive growth of 11% last year. Scenario seems to have somewhat improved in the second quarter but the picture is still mixed with lower credit growth. IIP numbers in August relating to the capital goods sector showed a negative growth, and many of the early announcements indicate significant de-growth in the
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M. M Miyajiwala:
Thank you. Mr. Shah. I would like to add that we have received several queries from analysts, etc., and I have some sense of the trend of questions concerns and queries and therefore I would briefly like to make some clarifications before we go forward which hopefully will also eliminate some the questions. In segment A in the second quarter of last year there was a gain of Rs. 3 Crores on account of exchange and claim received on account of C3C projects in Singapore of Rs.7 Crores. The subsidiary report in the analysis had shown a profit of 4.5 Crores and therefore this all adds to about 14.5 Crores. This was 14.5 Crores of positive in the second quarter in segment A. In this year we have an exchange loss of 9 Crores. The subsidiary report too has a loss of 15 Crores and this adds up to 24 Crores. If you then take the 14.5 positive of last year and 24.5 negative of this year it adds to about 38.5 Crores of swing from last year to this year and most of this seems to be one time kind of nature. Adjusting for these factors last years profit would be Rs.75 Crores on a turnover of Rs.769 Crores and current years turnover would be 707 Crores and profit 81 Crores. Margin percentages on this basis also look very comparable and positive. The reduction in turnover compare to last years is primarily in international market and can be attributed to slow progress of two projects in Qatar about which we had discussed earlier in the concall at the end of last year as well as in the first quarter. The management expects that these two projects would be ramped up in the second half of the current year. As per the particular subsidiarys adjustment let me explain the adjustment in detail. In project business as per the Accounting Standard 7 we are mandated to account for project cost and profitability on partial completion basis. This requires at the time of finalizing the results for all jobs in progress likely instead for the project is worked out by the project mangers on the basis of the current cost incurred and likely further cost to e incurred for completing the project. These are then compared with the expected revenues and the profit margin is determined. This profit margin as you can see is an estimate thereafter the entire profit margin is applied on the actual cost incurred to account for the overall revenues in the accounts. In the subsidiary concern a review of the assumptions based on which the margins were reflected was undertaken and it was fair that the assumptions were very optimistic and they required to be moderated. The impact of this exercise was fully accounted in this quarter and resulted in a loss in the subsidiary of 15 Crores approximately against profit of Rs. 4.5 Crores accounted in the same quarter last year. I would like to mention that we expect that the subsidiary will accrue profits in the remaining part of the year. Order book of segment A spends at 4975 Crores against 5002 Crores at the end of previous quarter that is the first quarter of the current year is on June 30, 2010. A breakup of order book is approximately Rs. 1500 Crores in the domestic market and about 3500 Crores in the international market. The international order book is valued based on the current prevailing exchange rate. Due to the exchange rate difference between the first quarter and second quarter end there is a negative impact of about 150 Crores. With the rupee vis--vis dollar hedge remain at the same level the 4975 Crores should have been something like 5125 Crores. Considering the turnover of the segment for the second quarter is Rs. 712 Crores approximately, fresh order intake is Rs. 850 Crores in the quarter. We may add that there is another interesting large order received after September 30, which will get reflected in to order book position for December 31, 2010. In Segment C margins for the segment depend upon mix of the product that is split vis--vis windows unit air conditioners vis--vis commercial refrigeration products. As such the margins from quarter-to-quarter and from to year-to-year they have not be strictly comparable and therefore one should not the extrapolate margins of one quarter to the entire year. Coming to capital employment in Segment A capital employed has gone up in some select jobs due to slow progress on certification of project billing and of variations being rather slow. In
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Mayur Patel:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Mayur Patel:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Mayur Patel:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Mayur Patel:
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Sachin Trivedi:
M. M Miyajiwala:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Sachin Trivedi:
Munjal Shah:
M. M Miyajiwala:
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Munjal Shah: M. M Miyajiwala: Munjal Shah: M. M Miyajiwala: Munjal Shah: M. M Miyajiwala: Munjal Shah: M. M Miyajiwala:
Munjal Shah:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Munjal Shah:
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Munjal Shah:
B. N Garudachar:
Munjal Shah:
B. N Garudachar:
Munjal Shah:
B. N Garudachar:
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Ritesh Cheda:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Ritesh Cheda:
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Ritesh Cheda:
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Ritesh Cheda:
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Ashvin Sara:
Naynesh Rajajni:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Naynesh Rajajni:
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Naynesh Rajajni:
M. M Miyajiwala:
Naynesh Rajajni:
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Kirti Dalvi:
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M. M Miyajiwala:
Sumit Agarwal:
M. M Miyajiwala:
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M. M Miyajiwala:
Sumit Agarwal:
Yogita Shenvi:
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Mayur Patel:
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Mayur Patel:
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Sanjay Satpathy:
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M. M Miyajiwala:
Nirmal Shah:
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Nilesh Shetty:
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Nilesh Shetty:
M. M Miyajiwala:
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