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16 theSun | THURSDAY DECEMBER 4 2008

INTERVIEWS VIEWS

» From Page15 The whole institution is to the

Muslims for freedom


rakyat. Everyone works for the
tem can promote. It depends on rakyat but the culture of the
the people and the leadership. work is that you have to work
But yes, I agree that you must as a team and you cannot be
have people who can work. It is working for yourself or some
not a popularity contest. There individual. You must be loyal to
the team, you try to dribble by

and enlightenment
used to be accusations that the
leadership is anti-intellect. But yourself like in football, you will
now, in the cabinet there are never go through.
many I think who are qualified
to do the job. Datuk Seri, we didn’t have the
The component parties in the space to write for such a long
BN after the last elections are time. People can now voice
being increasingly aware of the their opinions more vocally
ABOUT three years ago, face of heightened importance that the party has and publicly. Do you regret
a handful of Muslim fundamentalism in to rebuild its credibility and its loosening the reins?
academics from disparate the Muslim world. capability to serve. All this freedom of speech and
countries in Southeast “In all our all that ... I have given the space
Asia linked up and discussions, one issue You visited the Immigration but it must commensurate with
realised how similar that the participants Department soon after taking responsibility … a sense of bal-
their ideas were on the brought to the table office. Your initiatives brought ance and proportion is very, very
direction of Islam in was of Middle- a lot of support and we saw important.
their various states. They Eastern interpretation some changes in the adminis- If you want to exercise your
then became inspired to right to speak, yes, go ahead,
build a channel to keep
TheNutmeg and its negative
impact on local
tration of the department. But
then your officers and even but you must be mindful of your
in touch, in spite of their Verses culture,” said Amina some ministers were not on responsibilities. You claim the
cultural differences, the same page. One said set up right to speak; you must also
by Himanshu Bhatt Rasul, a convenor listen to others.
whether they spoke for the Philippines task force; others said set up
Tagalog, Bisayan, Thai or Council for Islam and committees, while some did
Malay. Democracy. “In Southeast Asia, not move at all! What went Every PM wants to be remem-
The upshot of it all was a series we did not have this kind of wrong where? bered for something. Is this
of round-table meetings and study situation before. But now more I know! I know! Different people your legacy? The reformation
trips under a network called the and more, year by year, people have a different view of how their of Malaysia?
“Southeast Asian Muslims for are donning Arab garb to show departments should be running. I don’t know if people are con-
Freedom and Enlightenment” they are Muslim.” co-organised with the Konrad-Adenauer- Some people tackle issues differ- scious about leaving a legacy or
(Seamus). Comprising eminent “And as this goes on, the trend Stiftung. ently. While I may want to see just doing the right thing while
Muslim activists and scholars, the is going to impact the songs we According to Raja Juli Antoni, immediate results others may
network hailed itself as a historic sing, the traditional dances we executive director of the Jakarta-based want to take their time in
“reform-oriented” movement; have,” added Amina who hails Maarif Institute, the adoption of Islam doing things.
its purpose, to promote human from Mindanao and is a former had for centuries never unduly affected
rights, gender equality, pluralism, presidential adviser in the cabinet the rich local traditions of the Southeast But should they not be
peaceful conflict resolutions of Fidel Ramos. Asians. Because Islam entered the region given goals and dead-
and civil society, among Muslim “And so we said we should be peacefully, not through war or conquest, lines?
communities across the region. wary of Arabic interpretations. We it seeped into peoples’ lives without This is how I do it: I tell
But as the meetings progressed, should differentiate our cultures disturbing their cultures, integrating them these are the objec-
they threw open a whole new from Arab customs.” side-by-side with local “Malayness”, he tives given to you, the pe-
gamut of concerns, with the And when the network recently says. riod given to achieve. How
representatives confronting held an unpublicised meeting in But increasingly, just over the last you do it is up to you but
commonalities so identical and Penang, the delegates who had decade or two, there has been a growing I want it. I want this! And
urgent. Chief among these, converged here found the mutual tendency to abandon locally evolved that you have to deliver to
they found, was an overarching concern about their Southeast traditions, fearing that they are “un- me. Maybe to some it is not
concern about their indigenous Asian identities become even Islamic”. an appropriate style, it has
Southeast Asian cultures in the more articulated. The meeting was “We cannot deny that the Quran and its weaknesses as some
the Hadith are written in Arabic, but people need to be taught,
we have to make a distinction between to be guided. I have a ten-
Islamic values and Arab traditions,” he dency where I put down
says. the objectives; I give you
His countryman, Luthfi Assyaukanie, the budget to do it; so I
chairman of the Liberal Islam Network, want it done.
finds it ironic that it was the very My survival is in Umno!
democracy introduced in Indonesia after One thing we seldom see If Umno doesn’t want me
the fall of Suharto that allowed radical is that even with change what can the 90% do?”
Islamic groups to grow over the last ten in ministers, it is the same
years. civil servant who imple-
“There is a contest of ideas between ments things. But if civil you have a chance to do so. This
liberals and radicals ... And the servants become subservient is what I am doing. If the people
conservatives are using this freedom to to the administration, to the say what Pak Lah is doing is
impose Islamic agenda. ministers, then there is a ten- good, then good-lah! So when I
“If the agenda is good, that it deals dency of putting paid to your decided on the development of
with poverty, the environment, with plans. the soft infrastructure – the heart,
quality of human life, and so on, then The setting up of Pemudah the human being – a long-time
it’s fine. But if your agenda is going to is based on the fact that if you colleague of mine said: “Tell
discriminate people, humiliate particular want everyone to do their jobs Pak Lah he chose something to
groups, then it needs to be looked at. correctly, you have to spell it out do that people find it difficult to
“In the past we were wiser ... But it’s in detail. General rules result in see.
the same problem in the Philippines, so many interpretations and this “Ask him to do something that
Singapore, Malaysia and south Thailand,” leads to delays. Pemudah goes people can see. Human capital
Luthfi says. into details on what needs to development nobody can see!”
Malaysian Institute for Policy Research be done and how it needs to be But it is okay because I believe
executive director Khalid Jaafar insists done. that 2020 cannot be achieved
that a powerful reconciliation between Pemudah deals with the without a quality, dynamic hu-
the two worlds – the traditions of system. You must get the sys- man capital.
Southeast Asia and the values of Islam tems right, regulations right,
– can be attained. instructions must be written Some opine that in pursuing
And it can be found in many of the out and understood clearly. We development during the Ma-
ancient Islamic texts themselves. “The cannot leave everything to the hathir years, this nation had
intellectual foundations are there,” imagination or everything to the lost its soul and values, and
he says, stressing that the religion initiative. We have to prescribe Pak Lah is trying to regain our
accommodates diversity while embracing it. On the subject of motivation lost identity as a people with
different cultures. “What we want to do and self improvement, it is high moral and ethical values.
is to first understand the rich resources handled by other agencies like Is that a correct assessment of
available within the spectrum of Islamic Intan and the National Integrity the last five years?
thought that have emerged historically. Institute to ensure the quality of If I have to do something I will.
“We need to be aware of the civil servants and that this is the You do something when you are
contemporary challenges faced by right man for the job in terms given a task, the value of what
Islam, and look at how the deep spiritual of attitude towards work. This you do whether it is good or not,
resources can help to deal with the is back to human capital again. it is for the people to judge. If
challenges.” How to add value to the person they like good, if not too bad.
And the intellectuals maintain there who is going to undertake all But yes, it is very difficult to
is hope for another dawn of Islam in these tasks! change some mindsets and I
Southeast Asia. “There has got to be a wish I had started on some of
point where we see that we are in fact So it is up to the individual on these (reforms) earlier. I hope
Malay, Indonesian, Thai or Bangsa how he views his job and if he everyone as human beings just
Moro,” says Amina Rasul. “And that we has the backbone to stand up remembers to do what is right,
see to it that our cultures are not erased, to superiors who work contrary no matter how difficult it may
even as we follow our Islamic faith.” to the national mission? seem.

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