Hi, Can anybody tell me the reason for HIGH DCR REL'99 reason, when there are less

number of attempts, what is the possible way to keep it low, pls suggest your valuable answers.
The reason is the same for high DCR in GSM: when the attempts are low also few drops are statistically heavy, for example if you have 10 attempts in BH and only one drop the DCR is 10%!!!. Howewer to reduce DCR in REL 99 you can force the IRAT HO using RSCP criteria Dan Serbescu (dan_serbescu@yahoo.com) It is like Rocco explained. For 10 established calls if there is one or 2 drops means a DCR of 10% or 20% (one single drop increase the drop rate by 10%). Whereas if there are 100 calls established and there are 10 drops drop rate is 10%; if there is one more drop(i.e. 11 drops) then drop rate is 11%. So you see, with low number of established calls one single drop increase the drop rate from 10 to 20% ; when there is a large number of established calls one single drop increase the drop rate but just from 10 to 11%. This way a single drop creates a disaster in your DCR whereas nothing changed, it is just uncertain what's your real drop rate(DCR) without a minimum number of samples. For examples, engineers do not try to optimize cells that do not have at least 50 calls established per day or a minimum of 5 drops per day. Otherwise it is difficult to conclude something. Ankit Tiwari Hi Dan & Rocco thanks for the expalanation, am daily looking the no of drop calls, there is only single digit, so thats y the contribution of these single digit making the drop rate more, can we hav some alternate so that we can decrease these drops, as i already checked the SHO with ADJS can anything more we can do?, like any parameters changes? pls suggest Dan Serbescu (dan_serbescu@yahoo.com) Ok. start with simple things: first check: do you have continuous 3G coverage to any surrounding cells? If yes, are you sure the overlapping is good enough to avoid drop calls?If no, call will drop unless you trigger quickly a handover to GSM. second check: do you have lot of users in indoor environment and there's deep indoor penetrations loss? If yes there's nothing you can do, calls will drop when they will go in the basement. To avoid this you need an indoor cell.Or you need to trigger HO to GSM faster, before call drop occurs. Agnieszka Syberska How many carriers do you use? Dou you share the same carrier for voice and HSPA? If you have brand new, one-carrier network, with only few 3G voice and also few HSPA users then HSDPA with its fixed Power is not used sometimes, so the interference is low and cells are bigger. And when an HSPA user apears, then the interference grows so sharp that a voice user has no chance to handover to GSM. Remedy for this is to have separated carierrs for Rel99 and HSPA. Or you can wait until you have so many HSDPA users that the cells are not "breathing" so often when the overal output power is more stable.

Rami Chaar Hi Ankit, The best approach will be by conducting a small drive to understand the reason behind such drop (such as missing 3G neighbours, limited coverage, delayed HOs, no enough measurement reports for decision making, combined/non combined mode for GSM measurements, IRAT parameter setting, CE reserved for SHOetc.) There are so many reasons and once you have a clear picture then your question will be focused and straight to the point. Good Luck