Waaaay too many Nephandi in that breakdown. To be Nephandus you have to enter the cauls, not just be bad.

Plus, they have the smallest number of canonical NPCs. I'd put their numbers at less than 5%. There are also probably slightly fewer Orphans, since the Traditions really are pretty good at assimilating mystics. The Crafts have been beaten down by the Technocracy, to boot, but we'll be opstimistic with both. Plus, there are quite a lot of Technocrats. So I'd say: Traditions- 40% Technocracy- 40% Marauders- 6% Nephandi- 4% Crafts- 10% Orphans- 10%

Canonically, the largest are: 1) OoH (they recruit more than any other Trad and the House structure lets them incorporate many different styles) 2) Akashic Brotherhood (they recruit less than many Trads but have the largest population base to draw from). After that, the Dreamspeakers and Celestial Chorus are supposed to be pretty large and diverse. The Verbena trail slightly behind these two. The Ecstatics are probably about the size of the Verbena. The Virtual Adepts and Sons of Ether are probably about equal size and next largest after the trads above. The Euthanatos are supposed to be smaller than the other Traditions. To make some hard choices and put it all in a list, with breakdowns the ranking from largest to smallest would be: 1) Order of Hermes 15% 2) Akashic Brotherhood 14% 3) Celestial Chorus 13% 4) Dreamspeakers 12% 5) Verbena 11%* 6) Cult of Ecstacy 11%* 7) Virtual Adepts 9%* 8) Sons of Ether 9%* 9) Euthanatos 6% *The higher ranks Trad may have a fractionally higher number of members.

Bill Bridges revised the numbers during his run, which were originally 1 mage per million or 1 per 500,000, to 1 per 200,000 ro 250,000. Let's make it an even 30,000 Awakened mages in the world. That means the Traditions have 12,000 members. So: 1) Order of Hermes: 1800 2) Akashic Brotherhood: 1680 3) Celestial Chorus: 1560 4) Dreamspeakers: 1440 5) Verbena: 1320 6) Cult of Ecstacy: 1320 7) Virtual Adepts: 1080 8) Sons of Ether: 1080 9) Euthanatos: 720 Breakdown by rank makes most Tradition mages Disciples, with a significant narrowing at Adept rank thanks to attrition and fewer apprentices because they tend to die more easily and because magic is generally in decline. So: Apprentice 15% -- 1800 Traditionalists Initiate: 20% -- 2400 Traditionalists Disciple: 50% -- 6000 Traditionalists Adept: 13% -- 1560 Traditionalists Master: 1.9% -- 228 Traditionalists? Archmaster: .1% 12 Traditionalists? Ranks will tend to break statistical predictions as the increase. For instance, thr Masters and archmasters are probably doled out more evenly that Tradition numbers would suggest. By contrast, the Technocracy probably has a fairly strict pyramidial distribution, with the fewest on top and as many as half being "Apprentices."

Holy smokes! You forgot the Hollow Ones being members of the Traditions! Unless you feel their numbers are truly so fractional as to not matter. Or if you have another reason. I made them the same size as Euthanatos for now, making the percentages ------1. Akashic Brotherhood 13.5% ------2. Celestial Chorus 11.5% ------3. Cult of Ecstacy 10.5% ------4. Dreamspeakers 11.5%

------5. Euthanatos 5.5% ------6. Order of Hermes 14.5% ------7. Sons of Ether 8.5% ------8. Verbena 10.5% ------9. Virtual Adepts 8.5% ------10. Hollow Ones 5.5% until you give me an official answer. I did the pure mathematical breakdown which looks like hell. I'd appreciate it if you tightened up the fractions, Mr. Sheppard. We'll avoid the sub-categories. Perhaps I'll just list them, and we won't worry about numbers. Cuz that'd hurt.

The Hollow Ones would actually be split among Orphans and the Crafts. Technically, the Hollow Ons are an extremely loose Craft (so loose that you get to figure out your magic pretty much on your own, making it moe of a loose Orphan alliance). They'd represent about 3% of all mages (roughly 900 mages) dropping the number of Orphans to 8% and the Crafts to 9%. They should be larger than the Euthanatos just because it's easier to join up.

Hmm... I'm not sure what to do about Hollow Ones. There's a book lumping them with Orphans, but Revised and even Wikipedia says they're one of the Trads now. I guess I will lump them completely separately from everything, Trads or Orphans. They are a specific paradim that tons of westerners seem to drift toward... I checked with a contact who has Fallen Tower, and indeed.... p.107 says 1 mage for every 150,000 people. Even less than what you said, Mr. Sheppard. This is intense. Too intense for me. But its canon. Damn, how its canon. So basically, we have two conflicting canonical sources... 1 in a million, and one in 150,000. (metaplot-ical rant:) Obviously, between the years Las Vegas and 2nd Ed. Mage was published, the Psychopomps went nuts and people began awakening like crazy, despite the losing of the Ascension war and the victory of banality. What would happen if I spreadsheet these two canonical figures? 1 mage for 575,000 people. This seems better to me. A little more rare than garou. If I incorporate Mr. Shepard's view of 225,000 mortals for 1 mage at half the weight of canon, it comes out to 505,000:1. But its hard to add personal preferences for the purposes of my list when there are such clear-cut canonical dictations in this case. So, gonna change it to 1 mage for 575,000 sleepers.

Just for context, Conrad Hubbard's view (he was one of the contributors) was, IIRC that this includes sorcerers (because he does not separate them from mages in most cases), so I modified the numbers downward a bit. The number should be seen as a retcon, not metaplot. If you made them half the number you'd have 1 per 300,000, which skews the numbers down from mine slightly, but it's my personal view that a great many sorcerers and psychics are "off the radar" -- they have one or two dots in a path and don't really count. To my mind, something in the 200,000-300,00 range is the minumum required to support the complexity of Awakend society. Remember that there are several dozen Crafts subgroups and associated factions that consist of at least 2-3 cabals. Many of these are supported by sorcerers, but thbey still have Awakened members. The Hollow Ones are not a Tradition, though. They are merely included with them because they're core PC types. To be a Tradition you need to be an active member of the Council of Nine and possess a specialty Sphere. Alright, I'll drop the Hollow Ones into Crafts, then, when I get home and back to my spreadsheet o' numbers. I did quickly do the math on the 1 in 150,000 including sorcerers, and it's really interesting what happens. I've gotten input that there are roughly 3 times as many sorcerers as mages, so I kept that in mind. 6.5 billion divided by 150,000 yields 43,333 magicians. If you divide that into 4, (1 for mages, 3 for sorcerers), you get 10,833 mages and 32,900 sorcerers. This fits the ratio of 1 avatar-holding willworker for 575,000 people almost PERFECTLY. My numbers originally were 11,300 mages and 33,900 sorcerers. So it seems my collected data has come around rather nicely, and I can settle for it. Hooray! Just to cement it and make it nice and round, I shall declare 11,000 willworkers and 33,000 hedge wizards. 1 mage for 590,000 mortals, 1 sorcerer for 197,000 mortals. It works out so nicely.