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Tuesday,Apr.17,2012byLauraPeters|75comments|Emailthisstory
9 Almosttwodozenspeakerssigneduptoaddresstheschoolboardovertheirrashand devastatingdecision[s]inbudgetcuts. Benefits,payraises,cuttingforeignlanguageinelementaryschools(FLES)andeliminating somemathresourceteacherswerehottopicsduringanApril17publicinputsessionofthe LoudounCountySchoolBoardsworksession. TomSieren,ateacherof31yearscurrentlyatLoudounCountyHighSchoolwashappywith the$1,500bonusinsteadofnothing,butdidntlikethefactthatitwouldntbecalculatedin hisfuturesalaryorbeappliedtohisretirement. OneofthesedaysIwillretire,butaccordingtomywife,myretirementjustgotpushed furtherdowntheroad,Sierensaid.Whyaretheemployeesatthetopofthescalebeing treateddifferentlyfromtherestoftheemployees?Thereareanswerstothisquestionand noneofthemaregood. BillFoxs(Leesburg)compensationplan,whichpassedApril16,wouldoffera$1,500 increaseforallscaleswiththetopsteptreatedasaonetimebonus.Itwouldalsogive classifiedpositionsa50centperhourraisewithacostsavingsof$805,000infiscal2013. Employeesthathavebeenaroundlongenoughtobeatthetopofthepayscaleoftenhavethe mosteducation,experienceandservice.Wemustbedoingsomethingright.Wewerentfired afterourfirstyear,Sierenadded.Wevebeenherethroughthickandthinandhave contributedtotheexcellenceofLoudounCountyPublicSchools,andwecontinuetodoso. Wedeservetobetreatedwithparityandnotexcludedfromtheteam. PamSmith,ateacheratParkViewHighSchoolwith30yearsexperience,saidshefelt disrespectedandundervaluedbyapayincreaseshewontreceive. Wearentthedeadwoodinyourschools.Wearentthecollegegradswhosaid,Showme themoney.Wearentthepeoplewholefttoneighboringcountiesforbetterpayandbenefits, shesaid.Wearetheemployeesthathaveshowedcommitment.Andtonightwhenyour headshitthepillowswehopeyouthinkofusinyourfuturebudgets. LisaLopezasktheboardtoreaddresstheFLESprogramcut. YoumadeamistakewithlimitedknowledgetocuttheFLESprogram,Lopezsaidholding backtears.Iamnotemotionalbecauseitaffectsme.Iamasubstitute.But,Ilookoveratmy colleaguesandthereare35ofthem,theyrenotbeingrestaffedtheyregone.Theydonthave ajobandtheyprobablywillnotgetajobatasecondaryschool. LarissaPelusa,amathresourceteacher,residentandparentinLoudounCounty,saidwhen shestartedtrainingtobecomeamathresourceteachershelearnedmoreaboutmaththan everbefore.Themathresourceteachingpositionhasbeenputonthechoppingblockwiththe newbudgetcutsandwillbereintegratedintoclassroomsthroughoutschools. IwaschallengedinmythinkingandIcametounderstandthattheresabetterwayto instructstudentsinmathematicsthanthewayIhadbeenteachinginallofthoseyears.Ijust didntknowanybetter,Pelusaexplained.Iwasinspired,Iwasintellectuallyrejuvenated andIwaseagertomakethosechanges.Thestudentsinmyclassroomwentfromdreading mathtoclappingandcheeringwhenitwastimetolearn. Whatstartedoutasasmallsparkhadbecomeaburningflame,sheadded.
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Sun,Apr29at06:10PMbyJimBowie|Reportthiscomment
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Mon,Apr23at06:37PMbystovepipe12x|Reportthiscomment
Firstoff.Getridofthedeadmeat,thatlikestopadtheirtimesheet!Rather thanpenalizetherestofthetruthfuldriversthathaveenjoyedtheirjob?Now ithasallcomedowntoParents,andtheirbratscallingtheshots?Don,tcome toanyinservicemeetingandblowsmokeupouras$andexpectthedriversto laydown!!Timemachine?Whatisupwiththat??Somethingthatuselessthat isanexcusefornotgivingoutraisestoanyone?Butawayofcuttingovertime todriversthatareputtinginthetime?Getridofthedeadmeatattendants,that seemtoknowmorethananydriver.Ithinkthedrugscanmakepeople hallucinate!andseemtorememberasimplerouteafterbeingonitforweeks? Gotmehanging?HopethefolksattheBighousehaveagooddrivingrecord, andanCDL?Idoubtit,cuzsomeonetheirthinks30mphisspeedingina 40mphzone.Whenwillthecountyputtheclampsonethestopsignrunner? Runningrunningfreealloverthecounty?Thefinesalonewouldbring revenue?But.Knowoneseemstocareabouttheconcernedmotoristthatdoes notmindcallinginifabusis,,goingtooslow,,,ortoofast?Butdoesanyone callifabuswascutoff???doesanyonecallifacarranthestoplights?No!cuz theirbratwasnotonthatbus!Justletalltheparentstakethento,andfrom school?Ohyeah.Don,tforget.ThefolksfromtheBighousearegoingtohelp? I,amaboutreadytojumpoutthebasementwindow!
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@Grassisgreenernicepost,andyouarecorrect.ManyLCPSteachersare herebecausetheyremarried,andthosewhoareyoungandsingle,getafew yearsofexperience,andthentheyleave. LCPSteachersworkveryhard,andgettreatedlikecrap.Whentheygetraises, thereisalwayssomesortofanoffsettingcost,andthatispathetic.Many LCPSteacherswanttodowell,theyteachtheirheartsout,anddowhatsbest fortheirclassrooms,butwiththingssuchasPBIS,DRAs,CLARITY,andthe otherbandwagons,itmakesithard. Ifyouknowofsomeofthoseplacesyoumentioned,pleaselistthem,because withthecurrentlevelofmorale,Ihaveahunchthatmanywillbelooking elsewhere.
Mon,Apr23at03:38AMbyEastBus|Reportthiscomment
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@WestBusTheATTENDANTSonSPEDbussesareNOTdrugand/or alcoholtested..butshouldbe!OnlybusDRIVERSare.
Mon,Apr23at01:25AMbyMary|Reportthiscomment
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Dontletthedoorhityou.
Sat,Apr21at09:57PMbyGrassisgreener...elsewhere|Reportthiscomment
Ihonestlydontknowwhyateacherwouldstayinthisarea.Maybetheyhave aspousewhomakesbigbucksasaBeltwayBandit? WhereIgrewupintheNEpaysmorethanLoudounforanewteacherandjust asmuchonthehighend.Imguessingthebenefitsareatleastasgoodas Loudoun.IknowwhereIamfrompays100%ofamastersdegreefornew teachers.NotsureifLoudoundoes.OfcourseIthinkNYstaterequiresa teachertohaveamastersaftersomanyyears.IdoubtVirginiadoes.Even still,thesilverlining?A34bedroomsinglefamilyhomecanbepurchased for$200k.Youmightevenhaveayardthatcanaccomodateapoolforthat price. Personally,IdbeoutofhereinaheartbeatifIwassingleorthemainbread winnerrelyingonaLCPSsalary.Thesamemoneyisavailableelsewhere withamuchlowercostofliving.
Sat,Apr21at07:38AMbyDr.kildare|Reportthiscomment
Howmuchdotheteacherscontributetotheirhealthcarecosts?
Sat,Apr21at07:32AMbyWestBus|Reportthiscomment
HowdoesthatworkFred?ThemajorityofLCPSEmployeesliveinLoudoun andpaythesametaxesasyoudo.
Sat,Apr21at07:07AMbyFredMorrison|Reportthiscomment
@CmonThereareafewprincipalswhoneedtogoaswell.Onlythefactthat arewellconnected,hassavedtheirsorrybutts! @tiredofthisThanks,andIamsurethatyouareamongtheminorityof parentswhotakethetimetotreatteacherswiththerespectthattheydeserve. Manyparentsinthisdisgustingcountyarehorrible.Theykeeptheirkids hometoshopoftakethemontrips,dontevenbothertoworkwiththeir children,sendnastyemails,backstab,talktrash,gossip,andthelistgoes on.Whatgoingtohappen,anditalreadyis,isthatLCteachersarefedupand arelookingelsewhere.Heck,ifIworkedinFairfax,andheardaboutthelow moraleanddiscontentinLCPS,IdbepromotingFairfaxtoattracttheLC teachers. Finally,teachingisnolongeraprofessionthathasjobsecurity.Also,much ofthewasteandfatareattheadminbuildinglevel,sothatiswhere numerouscutsshouldbemade!Digdeepandaudit,SB!
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Fri,Apr20at07:59PMbyC'mon|Reportthiscomment
@FlexTeacherFirstoff,letmejustsayIamhappyyouwereabletofind anotherjobwithinLCPS.However,asataxpayingparentwithchildrenin bothelementaryandhighschools,Iwouldprefertoseethedollars/resources forlanguageinstructionredirectedtothehighschoollevel.Iknowyouprefer toworkwiththelittlekids,butasamemberofthepublicsector,youneedto gowherethegapsareandwhereyoucanprovidethemostbenefit.Thatplace ishighschool.MyhighschoolsonisalreadyinSpanish4,gettingstraight As,andparticipatedinFLES,however,isntnearlyasproficientinthe languageasIwasinmy4thyearofSpanish25yearsago(andno,Ididnt haveFLES).Iamproteacher,butcomeon,beingproteacherdoesntmeanI condonewastingmoney.Weneedtobesmarthere.
Fri,Apr20at06:43AMbytiredofthis|Reportthiscomment
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/2o3W_VKACiw/TwXgRt5BXDI/AAAAAAAAJyI/Ol4rwLb60Ig/s1600/aaa6.jpg Thisprettymuchsumsitup.Therewasadaywhenteachersweretreatedwith theutmostrespect.Ofcoursethosewerethedaysbeforethegenerationof parentswhofeelentitled,falseselfesteemboostsforkids,everyonegetsa trophy,etc. @IHLC,youaresoright.NotsurewhatFairfaxislikenow,butIknowduring thetimeIwastheremanyyearsago,parentswerenothingliketheyarehere. Teachersaretreatedastheyareparentsslaves.Parentsexpectteacherstobe availableatallhours,theywantimmediateanswersfromemail,theythink theykidsaretheonlystudentsintheclass(aswellasthebrightestand talentedkidintheworld).Iamaparentof4LCPSstudentsandIhaveheard manytimesmypeerssayingthingslikewepaytheirsalarysoIamgoingto demandXYZ(whatevertheissueisathand).Theythreatenlawsuits,etc.It hasgottenoutofhandandsomethingneedstochange.Weneedtogive controlintheclassroombacktotheteachersandoutofthehandsofparents. Noonerespectsapushoverandthatiswhatteachershavebecome(atnofault oftheirown,theirhandsaretied).
Fri,Apr20at05:25AMbymuddywaters|Reportthiscomment
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yourrespectiveschools.Yougobehindtheteachersbacksandcrytoadmin whensomethinggoeswrongwhy?Becauseyouaretoocowardlytofacethe teacherinpersontodiscusstheproblem.Youprobablyalsoenableyour children,oryouwalkpastteachersyourchildrenmayhaveatfunctionsand ignorethem,nottoevensayhello.Betyoupullyourchildrenoutofschoolin themiddleofthedaytogoshopping,too. Luckily,therearenumerousparentsinLoudounwhoknowhowtotreattheir teachers.Ihaveneverseenacountywheremanypeopletreatteacherswith disdainwonderhowFairfaxparentstreatandappreciatetheirteachers? Probablymuchbetter.
Thu,Apr19at09:23PMbyThoroughlyExasperated|Reportthiscomment
@TimIhavespokentomanyeducatorswhofeelitisunconscionablethat countyemployeesarenotgettingaraise. @CharlesandFrustrationThankyouforyourmeasuredandthoughtful remarks. @thoseofyouwhoaresoclearlyunhappyaboutspendingoneducationIm sosorrythatyoufeelthatthisisnotavaluableinvestmentinourcommunity andthefuture. @thosewhohavehadexperienceswithsubparteachersadmittedlythereare someoutthere,buttheyareatinyportionofahighlyqualifiedanddedicated staff. @thepersonwhosaidteachersshouldjuststopworkingat7.5hoursbecause ifwedontwearebeingtakenadvantageofandifwecantwemustbe inefficienthahahahahahahahaha.Iencourageyoutospeaktospecial educationandELLteachersaboutthevolumesofpaperworkandrecord keepingthatislegallyrequired.Then,pleasebethankfulthattheyare teachingduringschoolhoursinsteadofignoringthechildrentodo paperwork.Pleaselookathowateachersplanningtimeisused.Most teachersIknowusethistimetodooneononeorsmallgroupworkwith studentsneedingremediationormakeupworkortestingforstudentswho wereabsentorworkinginteamstocreatecommonassessmentsand disaggregatedatasothatinstructioncanbetargetedtomeettheneedsofeach student. @whoeversaidgototheprivatesectorIcamefromthemilitaryandthe privatesectortothisjobbecauseIloveit.Ihavenoproblembeingapublic servant,butIwanttobetreatedlikethehighlyeducatedandexperienced professionalthatIam.Thatsallanyofuswant.Imguessingthisistrue evenofthoseofyouwhoareopposedtoeducationsending.
Thu,Apr19at08:51PMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
LoudounCountydescribehowLCPSwillfunctionif1/2theadminstaffiscut.
Thu,Apr19at08:36PMbyLoudounCounty|Reportthiscomment
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@WestBus>>4.Dontcontinuetoinstallcostlytimecardcomputersonall buses,itsjustonemorethingtobreakandtheteststudyprovedthatmost driversareactuallyshortingthemselvestimeratherthancheating! Iagree100%!!Insteadofwasting46milliondollarsonatimecardsystem thatis(inallactuality,butnooneadmitsto)tostoptimesheetcheats, wouldntitbecheapertosimplyculloutthecheatersandreprimandthem? Theelectronicbustimecardsystemisaboutasstupidandwastefulasthe10 thou$anddollarperbusseatbeltinstallation!Theelectronictimecard gadgetinthebussesmoneywouldhavebeenbetterspentdrugandalcohol testingtheattendantsonthespecialneedsbusses.
Thu,Apr19at04:53PMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
muddywaters,theanswertoyourfirstquestionisyes,ateacherwith15years experienceteachingalgebra(orwhatever)WILLbeabetterteacherthan someonejustoutofcollege. Whatyouaresuggestingapparentlytohaveaschoolsystemwherethereare noexperiencedemployees(sotheywillcostlessmoney)isnotgoingtowork onmanylevels. ExperienceDOESmakeadifference,maturityDOESmakeadifference.There ismuchvalueinhavingexperiencedemployees.Aspeoplegainexperience, theygetpaidmore.Thatisjustkindoffundamentaltothewholeemployment picture. Next,whowillchoosetogointoacareerwherethereisnopossibilityfor careergrowth?Thatisjustaridiculousconcept. Inaddition,someherewanttogetridoftheadministratorsbecausetheycost moremoney(becausetheyaremoreexperienced,havemoreeducation,and moreresponsibilities),soteaching/educationwouldhaveevenless opportunityforcareergrowthifyoursuggestionsarefollowed. Andfinally,thereissomuchmisinformationabouttheemployeebenefits.I amnotsuretheSchoolBoardmembersknowthefinerpoints.Buttobegin with,noneoftheemployeesaregettingfreehealthcarebenefits.Theyalso paymorejustliketherestofustoputtheirdependentsontheirplans. TheparttimebusdriverswhoreceivebenefitspayMOREfortheirbenefits becauseofthedifferenceinhours.Theyarenotreceivingfreebenefitsfor workingparttime.Also,theinfoIreceivedfromtheLCPSinformationoffice isthattheparttimeemployeesarechargedfortheirinsurancebasedontheir minimumhours.SO,theymaybeemployedforaminimumof6hours/day, buttheymayinfactworkmorehoursbecausetheytakeassignmentssuchas fieldtrips,sports/activitybusroutes,andsoon.Buttheyarepayingahigher
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ratefortheirinsuranceeventhoughtheymayputinfarmorehours. Theteachers,busdriversandanyotheremployeespeakingorwritingabout theirownsituationaretryingtoillustratereallifeaffectsofthepayand benefits.Ithinkthatsvaluable.Maybesomedontlikeitbecausethis removestheabstractqualityofthinkingaboutnumbersonly.ButtheSchool Boardhastoconsidertheseaffectstotheiremployees.Inthelongrunoreven shortterm,theywillseetheiremployeesleaveiftheyarenotvaluedand compensatedcompetitively. So,thoseofyouwhoarecomplaining,whydontyouletusknowwhatyou make,yourbenefits,bonuses,etcsothattherestofuscanpickYOUapartand letyouknowyourenotworthwhatYOUget.Because,onewayofanother, whetherthroughtaxes,payingforgoodsorservices,weareALLpayingeach otherssalariesandbenefits.
Thu,Apr19at04:11PMbyFLESteacher|Reportthiscomment
@LoudounCountyWow.Icanhardlybelievehowridiculousyourcomments are.Doyoureallythinksolowofteachersthatyoudontthinktheydeserve competitiveoratleastadequatepay?Haveyoueveractuallyvisitedaschoolor spokenwithateacher?Orbetteryet,didyouattendpublicschools?Thehard workoftheteachersyouhadgrowingupcontributedtomakingyousuccessful enoughinyourlifethatyouapparentlyfeelasthoughyouareaboveallthose measlyteachers.Shameonyou!Youshouldreallygodosomemoreresearch beforecontributingtoapublicforum. Yes,IamacurrentFLESteacher.IcantellyouthatIhavethemostfun teachingjobavailablerightnow.Igettohavefunwithstudentsandteach themnewthingsthatareengagingeveryday.Iamsickandfrustratedfrom thisschoolboarddecision.Ihavesinceappliedforandobtainedanewjob (stillLCPS)becauseIamnotgoingtofightthisfighteveryyear.Icantellyou allthatmostoftheFLESteachershavealicenseforK12andthearguments forkeepingtheprogramhasnothingtodowithanyonesinabilitytogoteach somethingelseinthecounty(exceptthoseVIFteacherswholeavetheir homesandfamiliesfor35yearstocomesharetheirculturewithour children).Ourproblemisthatthisprogram(whilehavingsomeproblems, admittedly)isimportanttothecognitivedevelopmentofchildrenandhelpsto preparethemtoliveandworkinourglobalsociety.Wearefightingfora qualityeducationforall.Please,visitaFLESclassroombeforeyouattemptto opinionatedabouttheeffectivenessandneedforthisprogram.Mydooris alwaysopen,justlikemy49colleaguesinthiscounty.
Thu,Apr19at03:53PMbymuddywaters|Reportthiscomment
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thatshouldbeexperiencedLCPSandcountyemployees.inmylastpost.
Thu,Apr19at11:20AMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
Therearealotofgoodideasoutthere,weasemployeesarelabeledastrouble makersifweexpressthem. 1.Stopallowingsomanyfleetvehiclestogohomewithemployees. 2.Makebusrouteslonger,eliminatinghalffullbuses.Ofcoursethiswill neverworkbecausetheparentswillcomplain. 3.Eliminatetransportationtothestudentspreferredschool.Therearetoo manyspecialexceptionsmade.Iftheparentsmovemidyearletthekidsgoto thenewschoollikeitwaswhenwewerekids. 4.Dontcontinuetoinstallcostlytimecardcomputersonallbuses,itsjust onemorethingtobreakandtheteststudyprovedthatmostdriversare actuallyshortingthemselvestimeratherthancheating! 5.Imstilltryingtofigureoutwhyfieldtripstocarvepumpkinsforelementary schoolkids,andcanoeingtripsforhighschoolstudentsarethatimportant
Thu,Apr19at08:54AMbymuddywaters|Reportthiscomment
@frustratedIMsickofyou.
Thu,Apr19at06:48AMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
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YouandFrustratedandafewotherswereabletoexpresswhatIwantedto say!ThankyouforpostingandbeingaREALISTICrepublican.:)
Thu,Apr19at06:42AMbyElleMcGee|Reportthiscomment
Sorry,machotalkonthesecites.Iwasalittlebitfiredup.
Thu,Apr19at06:00AMbyRealisticRepublican|Reportthiscomment
@echyone Youareeverythingthatiswrongwiththiscounty,andquitefranklythis countryrightnow.Youandyourkindtakepotshotsinforumsbutdonthave thetemeritytostandupbehindthesamediasthatpeoplelikePamSmithdo, anddefendaside.Instead,youridiculepeoplewhoarewillingtofightfor whattheybelieveisrightwithnoattemptatofferingupanalternative solution.Youandtheotherswhojustcomplainonherebutdonothingtofix anythingdisgustme.AsfarasIknow,itwasanopenforumonTuesday,did youshowup?Thereisalotofmachotalkonthesesightsregardingthecuts thatshouldbemadebutnobodythatIhaveseenhashadthenervetostandin frontoftheSchoolBoardandvoicetheseopinions.Thissidelineridiculeand absenceofrealaction/offeringeffectivealternativesiswhatisbringingthis countrydown.Andyoureprobablyteachingittoyourkidsaswell.Either growapairandspeakoutforyourbeliefsorstayathomeasthedinnertable philosopheryoudonthelpanybodybysarcastic(andillogical)ramblings. @Cmon. Asateacherfarabovethelevelofyourpeers,whathaveyoudonetoraisetheir level?Justlikeyourfriendechyone,youseemtoliketodenegratethose aroundyoutoshowhowamazingyouare.Excellent.LoudounCountyis happytohaveaphenomenalteacher,butwouldbemorehappyifyoucould passthatontoothersaroundyou.Orareyoujustashappytocomplainfrom thesidelinelikeechyone?BeaproudprofessionalandproudAmericantake actionandfixabrokensysteminsteadofhighlightingwhereitiswrongand offeringnosolutions.Dontgodownthesamebitterpaththatsomeofthese postershavetraveled.Trustme,yourpeersandthiscommunitywillrespect youmorefromfixingthesituationthantheyeverwillwithyoujoiningthe minorityofillogical,teacherbashingcurmudgeonsonhere. @FrustrationAmen.AsmuchasItalk,Idontevenhaveanythingtoaddto that.Wellstatedpointsthatthosewithanysemblanceofrationalityshould understand.
Thu,Apr19at05:01AMbyWestBus|Reportthiscomment
Thankyoufrustration,Imstillmakingthesame15kImade4yearsago,and itdoesntgoasfarasitusedto.Icommutefromoutofstateandthingsare tough.IrecentlyhadtoconsidergoingtothedoctorbecauseIwasntsureI hadthecopay.IshopattheHospiceStoreforclothingtoweartowork,and havevisitedmylocalfoodbankonoccasion. Believeitornotbusdriversdomorethandriveyourkidstoschool.Wenurse themwhentheyresick,teachcooperation,consideration,andteamwork, congratulatethemfortheiraccomplishments,andcheerthemupwhentheyre sad.Wedoallthiswithourbackstothemin16tonsofmovingsteel. Idontknowhowmanydriverswewillloosethissummerduetothesecuts, butIcantellyouitsnoteasyfindingpeopletodriveschoolbuses.Weare
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ThefrustrationIfeelwiththecurrentbudgetprocesscouldfillabook,alarge bookwithverysmalltype!Iamfrustratedwith: BoardmemberswhowhileIbelievearewellintendedaretrulyignorantofthe process,butsoarrogantthattheydismiss,ordonotaskforadviceonthe ramificationsofadecision,orjustdisregardadviceoftheexpertsthereto provideguidance. Acompletedisregardforlogical,rational,andprudentprocesswhen attemptingtoreformfundamentalpartsofbasiccompensation,benefits, instructionalphilosophy.Thesearenotthingsyoutrustonefellowboard memberwithlittleornoexperiencetoguideyouthrough.Anyrationalperson wouldknowandunderstandtheseneedindepthunderstanding,complete analysisoframifications,andexpertinput.Notkneejerkhalfbakedhurried decisions! WhileItrulysupportourteachers,andalsofeelthatweshouldprotectour classrooms,Ittakesmuchmorethanteacherstomakeaschoolsystem move.Ihaveheardsovery,verylittleaboutsupportstaff,impactsofbudget decisionsonthemandtheirfamilies.Mostareworkingforlessrealwages thantheyearned4yearsagoandaredosoverymuchmore.Andforeach teacherthereareamultitudeofsupportpersonsallowinghimorhertoteach! Manydoingthanklessjobs,forverylowcompensation,almostno recognition.Inspeakingofmanyofthemtheyfeeltrulydevaluedbythe currentdialogandprocess. IamsickofpeoplecomparingLCPSemployeestoprivateindustry.Iam unawareofanyprivateindustrywhereeveryyearyoumustbeRe Contracted.AndIagreewithsomeotherposters,mostemployeesworkmore hoursthantheyaregettingcompensatedfor.Asfarassummervacationgoes, duetothepoorcompensation,manyusetheirVACATIONtimetoworkto earnenoughtogetbyfortherestoftheyear,orgotoschoolinaattemptto bettertheirposition. Iamsickofpeopletalkingaboutteachingchildrenasifitsasimpleprocess. WheninrealitymostteachersIknowspendaenormousamountoftime parenting,whybecausetheyarenotgettingitathome,andtheteacher, counselor,principle,dean,cannotallowittogobybecausetheytrulycare aboutyourchildren.Whenaschoolnursequietlysupplya1stgraderwitha gentlyusedcoatbecauseshejustnoticedthatshehadnone.Whenateacher spendsherownmoneytoprovideschoolsuppliestoastudentwhocannot affordthem.Whenacafeteriaworkermakessureastudentiseatingright, justbecausetheyknowtheyarenotgettingitathome. Iamfrustratedwithacommunitythatistherichestinthenation,whoon averagehadahouseholdincreaseofover$9000.00inthelastyearthatis unwillingtofundaschoolbudget.Thedifferenceisreportedtobelessthan 67.00pertaxbill.Itlessthanaaveragetankofgas,lessthanthecoffeeonce aweek. Ifyouareunwillingtounderstandthesystem,howitactuallyworks,whatthe actualneedsare.ThenIwouldencourageyoutojustshutup,
Wed,Apr18at07:47PMbyTiredoftheNegativity|Reportthiscomment
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Outofthe23schoolsinthestateofVirginiawhohavereachedthestatusofa NationalSchooltoWatch,11ofthemarefromLoudounCounty. ThiscountyworkshardtogiveYOURchildrenabrightfuture.Maybethis doesntphasemanyofyoubecauseyouarerichenoughtobuythemabright future. OnethingIdontseemuchcomplainingaboutisthelevelofexcellencethis countybringstothetableeverysingledayoftheschoolyearandeven(this maycomeasasurprise)theworkthatisdonewhenschoolisnotinsession. WhenIreadthenegativecomments,Iamremindedofthephrase,Youget whatyoupayfor.Prettysoon,allofthebestteacherswillbelookingfora countywithappropriatepay(notnecessarilymore...)andacommunitythat appreciatesnationallyrecognizedwork.
Wed,Apr18at04:41PMbyThinkAboutTheFuture|Reportthiscomment
Thiscountyissupposetobeoneofthewealthiestorhighestincomecounties inthecountry.Parentshereexpectthisschoolsystemtobeoneofthebest, andtheyshouldbeabletoexpectthat.Butasuccessfulschoolsystemcomes withapricetag.Thesystemisgrowing,butthebudgetcantkeepup. Dontchaseawaythetalentedteachersbyhatingonthemforwantingaraise. Asafirstyearteacher,Icanbarelypaymyownrentonthissalary.Thatsnot acomplaint,justafact.IfthiscountycannotgivemewhatIneed,thenIwill leaveforanotherschoolsystem.Thissystemraisedme,sothelastthingI wanttodoisleave. Thequestioniswhatshappens5yearsfromnowwhenallthegoodteachers havegone?Ifyoucantkeeptheteachersyouhavenow,whatmakesyouthink youotherteacherswillbejumpingup&downforthejob? Weareteachingclassesof30+kidsinclassroomsdesignedtoholdlessthan 20bodies.Wearegettingridofdeskstomakeitwork.Wearecuttingfunds fromourclubs.Ourtextbooksaremorethanoutdatedandwearetryingto preparekidsforthis21stcenturyworldwhilefightingoveroutdatedlaptops. Imtellingyouthatkidsareslippingthroughthecracksbecauseweare operatinginsuchextremecircumstancesalready. IlovewhatIdo.IwouldntstillbehereifIdidntliveeveryminutewiththe kids.Butwhenthissystemstartslosingallitsrecognition&prestige,just rememberthatyougetwhatyoupayfor.
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@LoCowonders TheyouteachersatthehighschoolwhereIteacharefarfromimpressive,soI dontthinkdrovesofpeopleareattractedtothosestatsyoulisted.Youforgotto listthenotsoattractivepartsofteaching,butoh,whatsthis?Youvenever taught.Youhavenocluethen. @Sick Mynumbersareaccurate.IteachhighschoolSpanishinLoCo.Andyouare right,the16Americanteacherseitherdonthavethecontentknowledgeorthe abilitytohandleteens.ThepreviousforeignlanguagespecialistwasaFLES teacherandlistedherSpanishskillsasnovice.
Wed,Apr18at02:03PMbyWestBus|Reportthiscomment
@tiredofthisandyourcaseisfortheteachersnottoworkmoreeventhough theyregettingaraise.WhichiswhatIwasmakingfunof.Youreahoot!
Wed,Apr18at11:44AMbytiredofthis|Reportthiscomment
no,butobviouslywritingisNOTyourstrongpoint.However,Iwillnotget intopersonalslings.Idontneedtodothatinordertostatemycase.
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realworld.
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Therearemanygoodcommentshere: @venomousinsight@aol.comYouarerightthatallwehearismorebitching andfewersolutions.Imbeginningtothinkthiswholepublichearingprocess needstobeoverhauled,asitwastesvaluabletimeandmoney.TotheLCPS employeesreadingthisasanLCPSinsider,youhavemoreinsighttothetrue sourcesofwastethanthetaxpayingpublic,soSPEAKUP,TELLUSYOUR THOUGHTS.Dontcometothetablewithacomplaintunlessyoucanalso offeraviablesolution(andpleasedontletthatsolutionberaisethetax rate). Jenny...andTHANKYOUfordoingexactlywhatIaskedinmylast comment.Teachersshouldbeofferedaforumwheretheycanprovidefeedback onhowtomaketheschoolsystemmoreproductiveandefficientwithoutfear ofretaliation. @Really?Iagree,thelackofintelligenceistrulythescariestpartofthis wholeprocess.ThatiswhyIstoppedattendingmeetings.Thisrollercoaster isgoingnowherefastandincircles. @CmonIcannotcommenttotheaccuracyofwhatyouaresaying,butIdo knowthereareashortageoflanguageteachersatthehighschoollevel,soIm perplexedatallofthefussregardingtheelminationofFLES.Ihavetobelieve thattheseparticularteachersarenotqualifiedtoworkatthehighschoollevel and/orprefertoworkwiththelittlekidsonremediallanguageskillsthan withthesassyhighschoolattitudesonadvancedlanguageskills.
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Whosaidthis,Wearentthecollegegradswhosaid,Showmethemoney? PamSmithateacherwhileaskingformoremoney.Whatajoke!!
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WhatifthegovernmentnevertooktheConstitutionseriously?Whatifthe samegenerationinsomecasesthesamehumanbeingsthatwroteinthe FirstAmendment,Congressshallmakenolaw...abridgingthefreedomof speech,alsoenactedtheAlienandSeditionActs,whichmadeitacrimeto criticizethegovernment?WhatifthefedsdontregardtheConstitutionasthe SupremeLawoftheLand? WhatifthegovernmentregardstheConstitutionasmerelyaguidelinetobe referredtofromtimetotime,oramythtobefoisteduponthevoters,butnotas ahistoricdelegationofpowerthatlawfullylimitsthefederalgovernment? WhatifCongressknowsthatmostofwhatitregulatesputsitoutsidethe confinesoftheConstitution,butitdoeswhateveritcangetawaywith?What ifthefedsdontthinkthattheConstitutionwaswrittentokeepthemoffthe peoplesbacks? Whatiftheresnosubstantialdifferencebetweenthetwomajorpolitical parties?WhatifthesamepoliticalmentalitythatgaveusthePatriotAct,with itsfederalagentwrittensearchwarrantsthatpermitunconstitutionalspying onus,alsogaveusObamaCare,withitsmandatetobuyhealthinsurance, evenifwedontwantorneedit?Whatifbothpoliticalpartieslovepowermore thanfreedom?WhatifbothpartieshaveusedtheCommerceClauseinthe Constitutiontostretchthepowerofthefederalgovernmentfarbeyondits constitutionallyordainedboundariesandwellbeyondtheplainmeaningof words? Whatifbothpartieslovewarbecausethepublicismoredocileduringwarand permitshighertaxesandmorefederaltheftoffreedomfromindividualsand powerfromthestates?Whatifnoneoftheserecentwarshasmadeusfreeror safer,butjustpoorer? WhatifCongressbribedthestateswithcashinreturnfortheirenacting legislationthatCongresslikes,butcannotlawfullyenact?WhatifCongress wenttoallstatesintheunionandofferedthemcashtorepavetheirinterstate highways,ifthestatesonlyloweredtheirspeedlimits?Whatifthestatestook thatdeal?WhatiftheSupremeCourtapprovedthisbriberyandthenCongress diditagainandagain?WhatifthisbriberywereawayforCongresstoget aroundthefewconstitutionallimitationsthatCongressacknowledges? WhatifCongressbelievesthatitcanspendtaxdollarsonanythingitpleases andtieanystringsitwantstothatspending?WhatifCongressusesitstaxing andspendingpowertoregulateanythingitwantstocontrol,whether authorizedbytheConstitutionornot?Whatifanyoneotherthanmembersof Congressofferedstatelegislaturescashinreturnforfavorablelegislation? WhatifCongresswrotelawsthatletitbreaklawsthatordinarypeoplewould beprosecutedforbreaking? WhatiftheDeclarationofIndependencesaysthatthegovernmentderivesits powersfromtheconsentofthegoverned?Whatifthegovernmentclaimsto derivepowersfromsomeothersourcethatitwillnotbecauseitcannot name?Whatifwenevergavethegovernmentthepowertospyonus,toprint worthlesscash,tokillinournames,toforceustobuyhealthinsuranceorto wasteourmoneybytellingusthatexerciseisgoodandsugarisbad? Whatifwenevergavethegovernmentthepowertobribethepoorwithwelfare orthemiddleclasswithtaxbreaksortherichwithbailoutsorthestateswith cash?Whatifwedontconsenttowhathasbecomeofthegovernment?What iftheConstitutionhasbeentacitlyamendedbytheconsentofbothpolitical parties,wherebyinsteadofratifyingamendments,allthreebranchesof
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governmentmerelylooktheotherwaywhenthegovernmentviolatesthe Constitution?Whatifthepresidentcannotconstitutionallybombwhatever countryhewants?WhatiftheCongresscannotconstitutionallyexemptits membersfromthelawsthatgoverntherestofus?Whatifthecourtscannot constitutionallyinventarighttokillbabiesinthewomb? Whatifthefederalgovernmentisoutofcontrol,nomatterwhichparty controlsit?WhatifthereisonlyharmonyonCapitolHillwhengovernmentis growingandpersonallibertyisshrinking?Whatifthepresidentialracethis fallwillnotbebetweengoodandevil,betweenrightandleft,betweenfree marketsandcentralplanningorevenbetweenconstitutionalgovernmentand BigGovernmentbutonlyabouthowmuchbiggerBigGovernmentshouldget? Whatifenoughisenough?Whatdowedoaboutit?Whatifitstoolate?
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