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idaantipolo Post subject:
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have read both sides...and have learned form it. Kaya sa susunod hwag lang basta-basta check ng check sa
Agreement sa baba ng kahit anong finilup sa internet basahin at pakaintindihin.

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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS Post subject:
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FYI RJ this user (jultradust) posted similar feedback on MUKAMO and all his ignorant posts were removed from
MUKAMO - MUKAMO acknowledged that this persons material was nothing but defamatory and malicious lies and
ignored the reality of what he submitted ("signed") based on e-commerce laws

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bebekoh Post subject:
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Wow! talk about grievances... have to admit that initially i usually don't read the instructions and policies before...

i've been to primevisa's site before (even before they edit it and have clearly stated the fees... and everything!), i
already saw that i have to pay Php 1,000 upon submitting the online assessment form. i backed out because i havent
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 decided if i wanted to migrate.
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Location: there oh! in The thing is if you have not decided to migrate or have no means to migrate, then don't take the assessment test.
the tabs tabs po! That's all!
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707947 Post subject: consumer reklamo
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Joined: 16 May 2008 What you could do is inform the National Telecommunications Commission
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(NTC) and the National Bureau of Investigation to coordinate with with their
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sherwinaval Post subject:
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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS wrote:
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
admin wrote:
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Location: Qatar I see some flaws in your procedure.
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[ 0 - | 0 - ] 1.) What if person A submitted information of person B without the knowledge of person B?

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Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:53

am 2.) How can you justify in the court that the agreement above is a binding contract?

Maybe the better procedure is to ask for the prospect client who submitted the information
in your form to pay you a courier fee for the documents to fill up if they are willing to
pursue the assessment or to visit your office for the documents. If they are really willing,
they will do either of the above. If not, then they are not interested.

From experience, most internet users do not read everything in the page, especially,
agreements, terms and/or policies. Mistakes and misunderstandings can occur.

Also, are you familiar with the Philippine E-commerce Law?

What if person A submitted information of person B without the knowledge of person B?

THAT is called a FRAUD and the wronged person would take appropriate action (criminal or otherwise) -
it is also then SPAM to the service provider who can take action also
How would you know who is person A? How would you prove that it really isn't person B who submitted the form?

So far, you're the only site I've seen who's asking for administration charges without confirming the willingness of the
applicant to pay and filing legal actions immediately should the applicant refuses to pay.... I wonder how many
applicants have payed compared to the applicants who were sued because of not paying

kung wala lang akong asawa..... malamang binata ako!!!

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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS Post subject:
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Bebekoh please contact Prime Visa by email (refer our website) - we will arrange a 100% free assessment (admin
fee WAIVED) if you submit your cv (if you would like to know your prospects/assessment).

We respect those who can understand the laws and understand our terms of trade as stated - the reason for these
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 strict terms is due to so many Filipinos who enquire as supposed genuine enquiries but simply waste our time - this
Posts: 13 ruins the free assessment service thru our agents (local or overseas) for GENUINE enquiries -those who have no
funds or have no real commitment to their decision to migrate should not waste the time of their fellow countrymen
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:58 Regards

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admin Post subject:
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sherwinaval wrote:

PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS wrote:
What if person A submitted information of person B without the knowledge of
person B?

THAT is called a FRAUD and the wronged person would take appropriate action (criminal or
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 otherwise) - it is also then SPAM to the service provider who can take action also
Posts: 5609

Feedback: 47 How would you know who is person A? How would you prove that it really isn't person B who submitted
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the form?

Wed Aug 13, 2008

10:03 am
Yup, that is my point. You cannot identify anyone with details submitted through a web page form unless you are
requiring electronic signature like electronic certificates which is very rare for normal individuals.

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msirvine Post subject: reply to jultradust:beware of this person
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i had seen this poison letter & i can't help but to react. such losers should not be believed in.thats all i can
say.coming from A SUCCESSFUL PRIMEVISA APPLICANT!(ive been here in Australia for nearly 2 years now under a
Spouse Visa thru Primevisa).

for other successful primevisa clients who were also members here in sulit.com,we hope to hear from you & prove
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 this person wrong!
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bebekoh Post subject:
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for PrimeVisa...

I still have not decided if i want to migrate. as soon as my decisions are final, i'll contact you... even in the
Philippines... im currently not in the Philippines but is seriously considering migrating to another country... either NZ,
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Canada or Australia.
Posts: 32
Location: there oh! in I've known your legitimacy, as i was part of the business who processed your documents for business registration.
the tabs tabs po! don't worry! i know you mean well...
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sherwinaval Post subject:
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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS wrote:
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Bebekoh please contact Prime Visa by email (refer our website) - we will arrange a 100% free
Posts: 534 assessment (admin fee WAIVED) if you submit your cv (if you would like to know your
Location: Qatar prospects/assessment).
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[ 0 - | 0 - ] We respect those who can understand the laws and understand our terms of trade as stated - the
reason for these strict terms is due to so many Filipinos who enquire as supposed genuine enquiries but
Wed Aug 13, 2008 simply waste our time - this ruins the free assessment service thru our agents (local or overseas) for
10:07 am GENUINE enquiries -those who have no funds or have no real commitment to their decision to migrate
should not waste the time of their fellow countrymen or the businesses who are trying to do the right
thing and assist them to migrate abroad.

Regards
S Josef
Then I guess you should revise your procedures... Most of the Filipinos won't pay Php1,000 just by typing some text
and clicking a button.

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Some of the ways are those suggested by the admin.

A piece of advise, buy your own domain name, host it on a paid server and get your personalized e-mail id's.
Services like netfirms.com, hotmail.com, bravenet, pldtdsl.com just confuses your visitors and majority would think
your illegitimate... one more thing... post your office address on your site and name some of your staffs...

kung wala lang akong asawa..... malamang binata ako!!!

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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS Post subject:
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sherwinaval wrote:

PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS wrote:
What if person A submitted information of person B without the knowledge of
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 person B?
Posts: 13
THAT is called a FRAUD and the wronged person would take appropriate action (criminal or
Feedback: 0 (0%) otherwise) - it is also then SPAM to the service provider who can take action also
[ 0 - | 0 - ] How would you know who is person A? How would you prove that it really isn't person B who
submitted the form?
Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:10
am
So far, you're the only site I've seen who's asking for administration charges without confirming the
willingness of the applicant to pay and filing legal actions immediately should the applicant refuses to
pay.... I wonder how many applicants have payed compared to the applicants who were sued because
of not paying

Some agents give 100% FREE assessment and some agents CHARGE for assessment - we have agents that give
FREE assessment - Prime Visa expects to receive a fee for managing those enquiries (1000php) - if you DONT LIKE
THAT system THEN TAKE YOUR BUSINESS elsewhere and do NOT waste agent TIME submitting FAKE forms - this is
NOT A FREE SERVICE it is a FREE ASSESSMENT by the agent concerned - an AGENT can only be an individual - that
is WHY there is a 1000php especially for enquiries from eg OFW who are still based overseas on contracts yet they
are asking for assessment to migrate ??? Or Filipinos in USA on tourist visa seeking employment visa - these person
are NOT GENUINE visitor - no wonder Filipinos have such a poor reputation and so many agencies do not want to
assist them and in FACT will ignore your enquiry.

No - one has been sued numbskull - non genuine enquiries have already wasted enough of our time

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jomari4000 Post subject:
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actually di na kailangan mga agency para magimmigrate sa ibang bansa...ang mas maganda visit the immigration
page ng country na gusto nyong puntahan, lahat ng requirements and other information regarding immigrating in
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Canada if you are a professional di mo na kailangan services ng mga agency, kayang kaya mong intindihin yung process, tska
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mga agency di naman mkakatulong kung di ka talga pwede sa criteria nila, gagastos ka lang di ka rin makakapunta
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Wed Aug 13, 2008
10:15 am kya apply ka direct sa embassy

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PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS Post subject:
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sherwinaval wrote:

PRIMEVISASOLUTIONS wrote:
Bebekoh please contact Prime Visa by email (refer our website) - we will arrange a 100%
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 free assessment (admin fee WAIVED) if you submit your cv (if you would like to know your
Posts: 13 prospects/assessment).

Feedback: 0 (0%) We respect those who can understand the laws and understand our terms of trade as stated
[ 0 - | 0 - ] - the reason for these strict terms is due to so many Filipinos who enquire as supposed
genuine enquiries but simply waste our time - this ruins the free assessment service thru
our agents (local or overseas) for GENUINE enquiries -those who have no funds or have no
Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:20
real commitment to their decision to migrate should not waste the time of their fellow
am
countrymen or the businesses who are trying to do the right thing and assist them to
migrate abroad.

Regards
S Josef
Then I guess you should revise your procedures... Most of the Filipinos won't pay Php1,000 just by
typing some text and clicking a button.

Some of the ways are those suggested by the admin.

A piece of advise, buy your own domain name, host it on a paid server and get your personalized
e-mail id's. Services like netfirms.com, hotmail.com, bravenet, pldtdsl.com just confuses your visitors
and majority would think your illegitimate... one more thing... post your office address on your site
and name some of your staffs...

YES thank you we do have our own hosted site it is called

www.primevisasolutions.com
The reason we use netfirms for forms at this stage is to TRACE all IP addresses of FAKE enquiries as our current
host does not record that. FAKE enquiries are reported to the IP. The percentages of someone OTHER THAN the
person whose name appears on the form being responsible is less than 1 in 1000. There is a user ID as well as an
IP address. These emails are traceable

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