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Re: * Ruth

From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett <bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; bdimuro <bdimuro@dimuro.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com> Subject: Re: * Ruth Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 1:49 pm

Ilona, After talking with Jon Barker at King David. Learning you have not been back in touch with him. They have no documentation on your ownership of Herman Grenadier's Garden at King David. Giving you the right to Donate it. You claim you have all this information - but, refuse to disclose it. Under these circumstances and with your history of you being disingenuous - and stealing from the Sonia Grenadier Trust - It is believed you have done this illegally with the documentation that King David does have. The only other alternatives for us is - The Police - FBI - IRS - VSB - and the Virginia Board of Funeral Directors and Embalmers - You have until 5pm today before we start contacting the different agencies. I believe you never let the IRS know you stole the $95,000 + through your law firm and maybe more and that the Herman's Garden that you took as a deduction was most likely illegal as you didn't own the land - These are not threats - they are not extortion They are a chance for you to settle the issues - Which we believe you have already been given a fair chance to do that and chosen that you are above the law and with the help of your friends - it does look like it Again the information needs to be received through e-mail is fine by 5pm. Warmly, Janice Wolk Grenadier

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett <bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; bdimuro <bdimuro@dimuro.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com>
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6/1/12

Re: * Ruth

Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 12:34 pm Subject: Re: * Ruth

Ilona - would you like to come forward with the documents you claim to have? Or as usual were you being disingenuous? Janice Wolk Grenadier

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett <bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; bdimuro <bdimuro@dimuro.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:50 am Subject: Re: * Ruth Ilona - We would all like to have this information - This is not a threat - As you know I have filed several complaints with the VSB - I believe this should be the icing on the cake? Maybe they can get you to produce these documents - I will be able to do this with the support of Amy and her family. We are also looking at Virginia Board of Funeral Directors and Embalmers - In the next few days these steps will be taken. This is not a threat or extortion - You have stated you have this information and are refusing to respond and make this information available Janice Wolk Grenadier

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett
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6/1/12

Re: * Ruth

<bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; bdimuro <bdimuro@dimuro.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 2:02 pm Subject: Re: * Ruth Ilona you claim to have all this information that proves you purchased the Garden that you want to have Ruth dug up and moved from - Yet as always you are disingenuous - because you don't come forward with documentation - You claim you didn't sign the paper work for Ruth to be buried there again - disingenuous - Do you have anything signed by Sonia saying you had permission to move Herman and donate Herman's Garden? Why won't you answer and show the documents? Janice Wolk Grenadier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gLzEevzbx0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpwzgvN7rsY&feature=related www.facebook.com/jwgrenadier www.facebook.com/iboutiquetv

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett <bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; bdimuro <bdimuro@dimuro.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 18, 2011 10:33 am Subject: Re: * Ruth

Ilona - do you or do you not plan on answering the questions that are below or showing the documents you say you have? Or do you feel you are above the law in this as well? Janice
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Re: * Ruth

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: igrenadier <igrenadier@vafamilylaw.com>; jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; randy.sengel <randy.sengel@alexandriava.gov>; asimpson <asimpson@juridicalsolutions.com>; info <info@juridicalsolutions.com>; jcthomas <jcthomas@juridicalsolutions.com>; jkloch <jkloch@juridicalsolutions.com>; jmcgrath <jmcgrath@juridicalsolutions.com>; sjohnston <sjohnston@juridicalsolutions.com>; wshaw <wshaw@juridicalsolutions.com>; aharman <aharman@vafamilylaw.com>; astarace <astarace@vafamilylaw.com>; bduffett <bduffett@vafamilylaw.com>; cjun <cjun@vafamilylaw.com>; cpatterson <cpatterson@vafamilylaw.com>; crubin <crubin@vafamilylaw.com>; evadas <evadas@vafamilylaw.com>; hjenquine <hjenquine@vafamilylaw.com>; llevi <llevi@vafamilylaw.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:51 am Subject: Fwd: * Ruth Ilona You have said you have the documents along with the copy of the check that you used to purchase your garden at King David. These documents need to be produced. King David has documentation that Herman Grenadier's Garden went from Herman to you. As you are aware the documents attached to the Trust was forged and you did not have the legal authorization with out Sonia's signature. You have had King David contact Scotty to have Ruth's Body moved - Because you say you didn't give permission for Ruth to be buried with her parents & brother - of course they have a signed document that you did give permission. But, what needs to be answered is where is the documentation that gave you the right to donate Herman's Garden and then take it as a Tax deduction - How is it going to feel to be buried in the middle of all the people you have stolen from - from there grand children - great grand children Scotty & Amy are interested in why you waited 3 years & 2 months to inform them that you wanted there mother dug up and moved - What do you think Albert would have to say to you? Do you think if he was alive he would have approved of you stealing from his Mother? From me - Which was stealing from his grandchildren? Just think about it Ilona - buried amongst everyone you ruined there lives and there family's lives and all these Judge's who keep giving you the go ahead to do it I hope all of you read the e-mails below - and realize what type of person Ilona is - Once again being disingenuous - And hurting anyone she can Janice Wolk Grenadier

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6/1/12

Re: * Ruth

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: jwolkgrenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com>; igrenadier <igrenadier@vafamilylaw.com>; jon.barker <jon.barker@sci-us.com>; scottynhs <scottynhs@yahoo.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:51 am Subject: Re: Ruth Good Morning Jon, Thank y ou for y our time this morning. I am sorry I missed the meeting on Friday . The big concern is getting the paper work to show that Ilona had the right to donate Herman's Garden and the permission to mov e Herman. We feel it is also important to see where Ilona took the money to buy the Garden she claims to own. As at the time Ilona through her law firm was miss managing the funds of The Sonia Grenadier Trust. I appreciate all y our help in figuring this all out. Warmly , Janice Wolk Grenadier 7 03-623-9655

-----Original Message----From: Janice Wolk Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> To: igrenadier <igrenadier@vafamilylaw.com>; jon.barker <jon.barker@sci-us.com>; scottynhs <scottynhs@yahoo.com>; aeb66 <aeb66@aol.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 1:45 am Subject: Ruth

Hello All In order to move forward there are several unanswered questions - and several documents missing - This will hopefully get the information needed to go forward with a solution to this issue. This starts several months ago when Ilona mentioned to Scotty that their was an issue with King David. Ilona then waited several months to contact Scotty and inform him that they didn't have her permission to bury their mother in her Garden. To be exact time wise it was 3 years and 2 months after Ruth's death. In time for the statue of limitations to run out as Ilona had been Ruth's lawyer and Ruth had expressed several times she wanted her will revised and Ilona refused to do it - till she was divorced. Ruth paid for Ilona's services and trusted her - not really knowing how deceitful Ilona had been with her and her family. Her wishes with her will, along with the heirs being unaware of the money stolen out of her law firm from The Sonia Grenadier Trust. 1. The written permission for Ilona to move Herman Grenadier needs to be produced. 2. In a meeting with King David a few weeks ago a we were shown where Herman Grenadier's Garden was donated by Ilona Grenadier - The paper work showing Herman Grenadier or Sonia Grenadier giving this Garden to Ilona Grenadier needs to be produced. As we are all aware the Sonia Grenadier Trust Addendum giving Ilona any rights was forged and Ilona was put on notice
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Re: * Ruth

immediately after Albert's Death about the issue from Jim Arthur. 3. A copy of the Check that purchased the New Garden and all the paper work pertaining to the purchase of Ilona's Garden should be made available as she has stated she has it. It is very important that the check she used to purchase the Garden is produced as several of Sonia's accounts in the management of Ilona Grenadier were stolen from. This money was used to purchase Real Estate through a company she owns GIC. 4. Ilona has mentioned how King David has not come forth with the signed document giving the family permission to bury Ruth in her Garden. King David has been very easy to work with so far so we find this statement to be questionable as King David has records of faxing such information to Ilona Grenadier. It is believed these questions can be answered very easily as below in the emails from Ilona she states she has the information. If not her Tax account Yoav Katz should be able to produce the information of the donation - and any such checks that were written out of Ilona's accounts. If anyone has any comments - Please feel free to respond to all so we can all stay on the same page with updates. Warmly,

----Original Message----From: Scotty Subitzky <scotty nhs@y ahoo.com> To: Janice Grenadier <jwolkgrenadier@aol.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 201 1 6:1 7 pm Subject: Fw: Scott Subitzky -- 57 1 -438-5627 (cell)

----- Forwarded Message ----From: Ilona Grenadier <igrenadier@vafamilylaw.com> To: Scotty Subitzky <scottynhs@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: FW: Scott Subitzky -- 571-438-5627 (cell) Scott, as the cemetery continues to refuse to even communicate with me, it seems I have no choice but to file suit against them i for no other reason than to prevent them from burying some stranger in my land. You and your siblings need to advise me if you want me to try to find 2 burial plots in King David for your parents (together), whether they will be free will be up to the relative. For the life of me, I do not understand the refusal of the cemetery to even respond!??? But, I will need to know from you all before I file the suit.
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Re: * Ruth

From: Ilona Grenadier Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:56 PM To: ' Scotty Subitzky ' Subject: RE: Scott Subitzky -- 571-438-5627 (cell) Scott, First, you are wrong in your assumptions, and I guess I can assume that because of misinformation the cemetery may have given you. And in case you did not read my explanation of events carefully, I have been trying to get to the bottom of this situation from the day of the funeral, not just now. Second, it in some measure is because of your comments to my firm administrator some few weeks ago and my being in the middle of estate planning that brought to this to the forefront at this time. You for some reason advised Ms. Brodsky that Ruth was buried in the wrong place and that she was to be next to her mother, (which meant Al was in her place), and that this land was Herman Grenadiers, comprised of 15 plots for your grandparents, your Mom and Dad and You and Amy and Neil (I do not recall she mentioned Maida), and their children, etc, that. you had documents on this????? Now she does not always get the correct message, but she seemed quite certain of the conversation. It was clear to me you and Amy intended to use my land to bury your Dad when he passes away.I did not assume it was deliberate on your part as I assumed you all had no idea what had gone on after Al passed away, but wanted to be sure of what happened when Ruth passed away as prior to the funeral no one EVER contacted me about the burial. And with planning my own estate, and considering what I had for my children and my stepchildren, brought all of this to the forefront, not to mention the fact that apparently the cemetery seems to think they can bury anyone in that garden. I do not know or recall what happened at the funeral and I have repeatedly asked them to fax me anything they have about Ruths burial. I also would assume that you all would want your parents together, but that cannot be in that garden. I may be able to find two plots together from a relative, but if I okayed Ruth to stay then if you all desire she can stay, but no one else except myself and my husband from any family except Grenadiers (or my kids-tho that is not likely) may make use of that land. I assume you can understand that this situation was created by the direct negligence of the cemetery (unless they tell me otherwise, I am assuming you all would never have deliberately created this. If you and whoever makes decisions in your family want me to investigate other areas, so your parents can be together let me know and I will do so. . From: Scotty Subitzky [mailto:scottynhs@yahoo.com] nd Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:12 PM To: Ilona Grenadier Cc: Jwolkgrenadier@aol.com; amy bird Subject: Re: Scott Subitzky -- 571-438-5627 (cell)

Dear Ilona I'm just a little curious that after 3years and 2 months you now want my mother out of her resting place instead of say 1 year or 2 years after her death. Scotty
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Scott, Diane e mailed the conversation she had with you, which is set out hereinbelow. I do not know what King David and/or its Mr. Barker told you or what you told him (now or in the past), but let me set out the facts for you.: My garden at King David had nothing to do with Herman Grenadier except that which I will explain. 1. When Al passed away, he was buried in MY FAMILYs garden at King David (the Ely-Epstein Garden), which was and is owned by my brother in law married to my sister. 2. For personal reason that are not of your concern nor that of your family, some time after Al was buried, I decided I did not want him to remain in that garden and I purchased my OWN garden, for some $17,000+. I have my contract, the deed, and I believe my cancelled check. It is comprised of TEN spaces. 3. ! had Alberts coffin removed from my familys garden and put into my garden, which is by the way adjacent to my familys garden. 4. At that time, I also, with Sonias blessing, removed Herman Grenadier from his burial place at King David and buried him in my garden, not in any place of his. When Sonia passed away, I also had her buried in between Herman and Al, and I am certain I gave instructions to have that done. 5. .None of this had anything to do with your family, nor, to the best of my knowledge, did she ever indicate any desire that anyone in her family other than she and Herman would be buried in that garden with Al. The garden was a far nicer section and more expensive than the area where Herman was buried, and as I was buying it for Al, it was my suggestion that we move Herman at the same time. 6. When I arrived at your Moms funeral she was being placed into the ground in that garden. I certainly could not disrupt the funeral, but upon returning to the office I called King David (as it seemed to me that they felt they could use what was deeded to me and intended for my family as they pleased without asking), and my recollection is that the woman evidenced confusion and gave me the same line that you got I have to research this and will get back to you, which of course despite further communication never happened. Whoever she was expressed grave concern, was so sorry, was sure this would be straightened out. 7 As I and my family are getting older, I wanted this straightened out (as I am married and expect my husband and I to be there), I have stepchildren and children who may also desire to be there, and if not, I wanted it to remain empty. It is not large, 5 on 5, and has a bench in honor of my late husband. 8. After many machinations, I finally was connected to a Mr. Barker (or that was what he called himself), who listened, had me on hold to get the fileand acknowledged that yes, I owned that garden and yes, it was purchased in 1985 or 1986, and no, no on should be allowed to trespass (my words) on land owned by me. After some garbled words from him, he finally said that he had a document signed by me okaying Ruths burial- I said, okay, my memory is not infallible, can you fax it to me. He also hemmed and hawed but sort of admitted seeing a communication from me in the file that NO
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ONE was to be buried in that garden without my written approval. It is inconceivable to me that one would think for eg., I could move into their home that they purchased, even a cemetery would have some common sense. I asked him to fax me the document I signed, and said again, do you get it, no one is to be buried in that garden without my written permission. He said he would fax it to me immediately and took down my fax number. The conversation continued, an associate was in my office during the entire conversation. By the end of the conversation, he was hemming and hawing about whether he was going to fax me that document. This of course seems outrageous, my land, which I allegedly allowed to be used, and he was refusing now to send that to me! This suggests to me that he and/or his cemetery think they can do whatever they want with land I paid for and which is deeded to me! His parting words I will research this and get back to you..Need I say that I never heard from him again. 9. Whatever you think Herman did or did not do has nothing to do with this. When I purchased this land and moved Herman as I wanted him to be near his son, I did not take on any other family members. I had 2 children and 5 stepchildren of my own. If I signed something for Ruth, they need to send that to me, I have no memory of that, and they have NEVER given me the alleged document. HOWEVER, so that it is clear, these are NOT Hermans burial places and this is no different than someone building a house on anther persons land. 10. Lastly, if you and/or your sister are correct in relating what this man said to you, it is incorrect, the letter, this last one, did not say what he alleged, and it appears that my only remedy will be to file a suit if there is no honest communication from that organization. As to whether your mother should remain there, that is not clear at this time, as the allegation is that I have given permission in writing, but regardless of the outcome, no one else other than my own family will be buried in that garden without my permission in writing. Maybe you and/or Amy will have more success than I have had in getting documentation. Sincerely, ilona _____________________________________________ From: Diane Brodsky Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:48 PM To: Ilona Grenadier Subject: Scott Subitzky -- 571-438-5627 (cell)

Called and spoke to Scott -- told him that you were slammed right now and don't know what she'll be able to get back to you -- and could he tell me what this is about. It's about his mom -- about digging her up and burying her somewhere else. Evidently Amy got a call from King David on Friday -- by the time she was able to return the call -- the guy was gone for the day -- and she'd have to call on Monday Amy spoke to this person on Monday and was told that they had received an attorney's letter -- to removed him mom from the plot. Scott also has talked to them -- some guy named John (something) -- he couldn't remember the name exactly -- John Bender -- Barker -- he couldn't remember. They (Scott & Amy) want to find out what is up. Scott said that he had told the guy that Ilona had given her permission for his mom to be buried with her father (Herman) Scott said that he had received a letter from Ilona's attorneys saying that they would have to move mother -- than he ask ed scott some quesitons -- scott tol dhim that it was his understanding that his grandfather had purchased some plots (15) -- for his and his wife -- for his mother and her brother (Albert and Ruth) -- their spouses -- that would be Scottys father and Albert's wife -- and one for each of the 9 granschildren -- that was what Scotty understood from what his mother told him -- and that is what he told the guy at King David. And the guy at King David told Scott that he would look into this further and would get back to him with anything that he found -- and the guy at King David told Scott that he had a copy of the document that gave them permission to
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bury Ruth near Herman (however you describe where she's buried). And that King David wasn't going to let Ruth be buried without Ilona's permission. -Scott and Amy are very concerned about all of this and just would like to know what is going on

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