Jon Keehner earned his PhD. in Carnivore Ecology. We talk about the reintroduction of wolves in the lower 48. My background in wolves came from Google and Grimm's fairy tales. Jon's background is just a little bit deeper, ( like comparing a puddle to a lake) we talk about the reality of sharing the landscape with wolves and what it will take to truly to keep them managed. We also talk a little duck hunting, conservation, and hunter perception in the public eye.