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The Flat Earth Koran

10 of 13 – Koran Science & Cosmology


(Part 1)

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An interpretation of the Cosmology of
the Koran & a critique of Islamic
Fundamentalism

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Introduction – Koran Science
1. In previous Presentations in this series, I have set out the evidence
for the Koran assuming a Flat Earth.
2. Such a suggestion is totally unacceptable to most Muslims.
3. Most Muslims cannot admit to this being true as this would disprove
Islam.
4. When somebody claims that there are Scientific errors in the Koran,
a common response of many Muslims is to claim that there are
Scientific Miracles in the Koran which prove its Divine origin.
5. These alleged “Scientific Miracles” or “Koran Science” are said to
have Scientific fore-knowledge of modern Science which
Mohammed or other early Muslims could not possibly have known
without information from God.
6. There are many dozens of supposed examples of this “Koran
Science” on the Internet.(At least 80-100)
7. Presentations 10,11 &12 in this series will limit themselves 50 claims
of modern Scientific knowledge relating to Cosmology in the Koran.

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Cosmology of the
Koran & Hadith
In the previous Presentations
in this series it was suggested
that the Koran and Hadith
assume a Universe such as the
one shown in the picture on
the left.

Islamic Fundamentalists would


argue that this is nonsense.

They claims that the Koran and


Hadith are in perfect harmony
with modern Science.

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Koran “Science” or alleged
Scientific Miracles in the Koran

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Origins of Koran Science
In 1976, this book by a Non-Muslim
French Medical Doctor was published.

The Book claims that the Koran,


unlike The Bible is in perfect harmony
with Modern Science.

Furthermore, it claims that the Koran


contains foreknowledge of modern
Scientific discoveries made only in
recent years.

This, the book claims, is proof of the


Korans divine Origin.

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Maurice Bucaille
& King Faisal
In 1973, Maurice Bucaille, the Author was
appointed as personal physician to King
Faisal of Saudi Arabia.

The King, an Islamic Fundamentalist & one of


the richest men in the World was keen to use
his enormous wealth in order to promote Islam.

To do this, he sponsored Bucaille to write a


book, reputedly for a sum of $6 Million. Using
a non-Muslim as a “Front Man” was a public
relations stunt designed to dishonestly give the
book an image of objectivity that it would not
have had if a Muslim had written it.

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Wahhabism:The real source of Koran
Science

In his book, Bucaille mentions Saudi Government officials & Religious


Scholars who provided him with lots of assistance and information
when he was writing it.These individuals appear to be the real authors
of the book & Bucaille appears to be their “Front Man”.

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Commission on Scientific Signs of
Qur'an & Sunnah
http://www.nooran.org/en/About_us.htm

This Saudi Government Organisation is the main driving force


behind the promotion of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran.

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Koran Science

In more recent years, many books by Muslims have appeared


and are freely available on Islamic Websites or in PDF format for
free downloading.

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Harun Yahya
Perhaps the most prominent
proponent of Koran Science today,
is the controversial Turkish writer
Adnan Oktar, who uses the pen
name “Harun Yahya.”

Oktar uses many of the ideas of


Bucaille and has added new
Ones of his own.

Nearly all the examples of alleged


Scientific Miracles in the Koran
can be traced back to either
Bucaille or Oktar.

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Bewley Koran

This is a popular modern English


translation of the Koran. However,
the authors are practitioners of Sufism,
which some traditional Muslims consider
to be heretical.

Some Muslims, especially the Saudi


Arabian government, consider this
translation corrupt.

Harun Yahya uses this version in all of


his works.

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Rashad Khalifa Koran

Another significant figure in the Field of Koran


Science was Rashad Khalifa who produced
a popular English translation of the Koran

Khalifa, proclaimed himself to be an Islamic


Prophet and successor to Mohammed.
He founded a group known as the Submitters.

Most Muslims regarded him as a heretic who


had blasphemed Islam & produced a corrupt
translation of the Koran.

He was murdered in 1990 by Muslim extremists.

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Websites promoting alleged Scientific
Miracles found in the Koran - 1

In addition to
various books,
there are many
websites such
this one that
promote
“Koran Science”

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/index2.php

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Websites promoting alleged Scientific
Miracles found in the Koran - 2
This is another popular
Website.

These websites & many


others like them recycle,
discuss & promote
essentially the same
arguments, that can be
traced back to Maurice
Bucaille & Harun Yahya.

http://www.quranmiracles.com/

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Classification of the types of Scientific
Miracles said to be found in the Koran
There are perhaps about
100 – 120 different alleged
Scientific Miracles in the
Koran, according to Islamic
Fundamentalists.

They appear to fall into the


categories in this chart.

These Presentations will


focus on the alleged
relating to Astronomy,
Cosmology & the Physical
Sciences.

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Koran Science – Alleged Scientific
Miracles in the Koran

The remainder of this presentation is a review of many of the most


popular examples of alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran relating
to Astronomy and Cosmology.

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50 of the most popular alleged
Scientific Miracles in the Koran
• This Presentation (Presentation 10 of 13) relates to
the alleged Scientific Miracles concerning the
Universe in General

• The next one (Presentation 11 of 13) deals with


Stars, Planets and other Astronomical phenomena.

• The following one (Presentation 12 of 13) concerns


the Earth and Moon.

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Claims about the Universe in general
1) The Big Bang 9) Stellar Nucleosynthesis

2) Ex-Nilho Creation 10) Theory of Relativity

3) Expansion of Universe 11) Age of Universe

4) The Big Crunch 12) E / M Spectrum

5) Nebular origin of Stars 13) Sub-Atomic Particles

6) Inter-Galactic Nebulae 14) Nuclear Fission

7) Stellar Evolution 15) Anti-Matter

8) Fusion inside Stars 16) Parallel Universes

All these things and more are supposedly referred to in the Koran,
but these claims are all false, as this presentation will show.
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Section 1- Islam & the Universe
in general

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Claim 01- The Big Bang is
described in the Koran

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Claim 01 The Big Bang

"Do not the Unbelievers see


that the Heavens and
the Earth were joined together,
then we clove them
asunder and We got
every living thing out of
the water. Will they not
then believe?"

Surah 21:30 Bucaille


& Harun Yahya

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Claim 01 The Big Bang
1. Modern Astronomy has come to the conclusion that the
Universe originated in a huge explosion or “Big Bang” some 13.7
billion years ago.
2. Many Muslims claim that this was foretold in Surah 21:30 of the
Koran 1400 years ago.
3. The Big Bang theory was only first proposed in the 1920’s and
accepted since the 1960’s.
4. Many Muslims like to claim that the Koran predicted this modern
Scientific discovery over 1300 years before modern Astronomy.
5. It is argued that such amazing Scientific foresight is nothing
short of miraculous and proves that there is modern Scientific
knowledge in the Koran.
6. It is further argued that the only explanation for this is the divine
origin of the Koran and the truth of the religion of Islam.

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Surah 21:30 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Have not those who disbelieve known that the Heavens & the
Earth were of one piece, then We parted them?”
Yusuf Ali “Do not the Unbelievers see that the Heavens & the Earth
were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them
asunder?”
Hilali-Khan “Have not those who disbelieve known that the Heavens &
the Earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted
them? “
Shakir “Do not those who disbelieve see that the Heavens & the Earth
were closed up, but We have opened them?”
Sher Ali “Do not the disbelievers see that the Heavens & the Earth
were a closed up-mass, then We opened them out?”
Khalifa “Do the unbelievers not realize that the Heaven & the Earth
used to be one solid mass that we exploded into existence?”

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Surah 21:30 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “Have not the unbelievers then beheld that the Heavens and
the Earth were a mass all sewn up, and then We unstitched them?”
Palmer “Do not those who misbelieve see that the Heavens and the
Earth were both solid, and we burst them asunder?”
Rodwell “Do not the infidels see that the Heavens and the Earth were
both a solid mass, and that we clave them asunder?”
Sale “Do not the unbelievers therefore know, that the Heavens and the
Earth were solid, and we clave the same in sunder?”
Irving “Have not those who disbelieve seen how Heaven and Earth
were once one solid mass which We ripped apart?“
Dawood “Are the disbelievers aware that the Heavens and the Earth
were of one solid mass which we tore asunder?”

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Response to Claim 01
1. Surah 21:30 is very vague.If it refers to the Big Bang, how is it
that Muslim Astronomers did not explicitly predict the Big Bang
centuries ago? Have Muslims been incorrectly interpreting the
Koran for 1400 years?
2. Surah 21:30 implies that the Earth and the rest of the Universe
are about the same age.Modern Science has calculated that the
Universe is 13.7 billion years old & that the Earth is 4.6 billion
years old. Earth was formed from raw materials created in stars
shortly prior to its formation.The Earth was never joined with the
rest of the Universe.
3. The term “Heavens” does not refer to Outer Space. No such
concept exists in the Koran. The “Heavens” refer to a place up
in the Sky where God, his Angels and dead Muslims exist.

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7
Surah 21:30
6
5
Mohammed in the
4
Seven Heavens
3

2 This traditional Islamic


painting shows what the term
1
“Heavens” means in the Koran.

The “Heavens” do not refer to


Outer Space.

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Surah 21:30 What it really means

This is what Surah 21:30 really means.Here God lifts up the solid
Sky which was previously lying on the ground.

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Egyptian God Shu raises up the Sky

In Egyptian Mythology,
the Air God Shu
raised up Nut the
Sky Goddess Above
Geb, the Earth God.

Surah 21:30 is just


another version of
this Myth.

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Claim 01- Conclusion

1. Surah 21:30 does not refer to the Big Bang. Such a belief is out of
line with both traditional Islamic interpretations of the Koran and
modern Science.

3. Surah 21:30 is just an Islamic version of a popular Creation Myth


about the separation of the Earth and Sky that was widespread in
the Ancient Middle East.

5. Far from proving that the Koran is in harmony with modern Science,
this verse shows exactly the opposite. That is to say that much of
the Koran is just a collection of myths.

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Claim 02 – Ex-Nilho Creation is
described in the Koran

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Claim 02 Ex-Nilho creation

“ Creator of the Heavens


& the Earth from
nothingness, He has
only to say when He
wills a thing, “Be” & it is.”
Surah 2:117

“He created the Heavens


and the Earth from
nothing.”

Surah 6:101 Harun Yahya

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Claim 02 Ex Nilho Creation

1. Modern Astronomy believes that the Universe came into


being from nothing at the Big Bang. Many Creation stories
begin with pre-existing material.

3. It is claimed that Surah 2:117 & Surah 6:101 agree with


modern science and are 1400 years ahead of their time.

5. This is said to indicate scientific foreknowledge and


therefore divine authorship for the Koran & the truth of
Islam.

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Surah 2:117 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! When He
decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.”
Yusuf Ali “To Him is due the primal origin of the Heavens and the
Earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.”
Hilali-Khan “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. When He
decrees a matter, He only says to it : "Be!" - and it is.”
Shakir “Wonderful Originator of the Heavens and the Earth, and when
He decrees an affair, He only says to it, Be, so there it is”.
Sher Ali “He is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. When He
decrees a thing, He only says to it `Be,' and it is.”
Khalifa “The Initiator of the Heavens and the Earth: to have anything
done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is.”

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Surah 2:117 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth; and when He
decrees a thing, He but says to it 'Be,' and it is.”
Palmer “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth, when He
decrees a matter He doth but say unto it, 'Be,' and it is.”
Rodwell “Sole maker of the Heavens and of the Earth! And when He
decreeth a thing, He only saith to it, "Be," and it is.”
Sale “The creator of Heaven and Earth; and when he decreeth a thing,
he only saith unto it, be, and it is.”
Irving “Devisor of Heaven and Earth, whenever He decrees so affair,
He merely tells it: "Be!" and it is.”
Dawood “Creator of the Heavens and the Earth! When he decrees a
thing, he need only say “Be” and it is.”

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Surah 6:101 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! How can He
have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all
things and is Aware of all things?”
Yusuf Ali “To Him is due the primal origin of the Heavens and the
Earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created
all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.”
Hilali-Khan “He is the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. How
can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and
He is Shakir “Wonderful Originator of the Heavens and the Earth! How
could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself)
created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.”
Sher Ali “The Originator of the Heavens and the Earth. How can He
have a son when He has no consort, and when He has created
everything and has knowledge of all things?”

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Surah 6:101 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth -- how should He have
a son, seeing that He has no consort, and He created all things, and He
has knowledge of everything?”
Palmer “The inventor of the Heavens and the Earth! how can He have a
son, when He has no female companion, and when He has created
everything, and everything He knows?”
Rodwell “Sole maker of the Heavens and of the Earth! how, when He hath
no consort, should He have a son? He hath created everything, and He
knoweth everything!”
Sale “[He is] the maker of Heaven and Earth: How should he have issue
since he hath no consort? He hath created all things, and he is omniscient.”
Irving “Deviser of Heaven and Earth! How can He save a son while He has
no consort? He created everything and is aware of everything!”
Dawood “Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.How can he have a son
when he has no consort? He is creator of all things and he has knowledge
of all things.”
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Response to Claim 02

1. Even if the Koran is speaking of Ex-Nilho creation, this is not


an original idea.
2. Over 500 years before the birth of Mohammed, the Jewish
Philosopher Philo of Alexandria (20BC – 50AD) discussed
this idea.
3. Centuries earlier in the C8th BC, the Greek Poet Hesiod also
discussed this concept.
4. When we check the Hadith however, there is some doubt
about God creating the Universe Ex-Nilho.

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Ex Nilho Creation
an old idea

Centuries before Mohammed, the Greek


the Jewish Philosopher Philo of
Alexandria (top) & the Greek Poet
Hesiod (bottom)and had discussed the
concept of creation Ex-Nilho.

There is some doubt if this is how


Creation is described in the Koran.

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Creation according to the Hadith - God
above the Cosmic Ocean
Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 414:
Narrated Imran bin Husain:
I went to the Prophet and tied my she-camel at the gate.….. Then
some Yemenites came to him and he said, "Accept the good tidings,
O people of Yemen, for Bani Tamim refused them." They said, "We
accept it, O Allah's Apostle! We have come to ask you about this
matter (i.e. the start of creations)." He said, "First of all, there was
nothing but Allah, and (then He created His Throne). His throne was
over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the Heaven)
and created the Heavens and the Earth." Then a man shouted, "O Ibn
Husain! Your she-camel has gone away!" So, I went away and could
not see the she-camel because of the mirage. By Allah, I wished I had
left that she-camel (but not that gathering).

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God on his throne above the waters
before Creation according to the Hadith
God on his throne
above the waters
of the waters or
infinite Cosmic
ocean in which
the Universe of
the Koran sits.

Notice how the


Cosmic Ocean ocean already
existed & was not
created By God

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Claim 02- Conclusion

1. The Koran is vague about the details of how God created the
Universe.It is uncertain if Creation was Ex-Nilho o using pre-existing
material.

3. Even if Creation was Ex-Nilho, there is nothing remarkable about


this idea being known in the C7th AD.

5. The Hadith suggests that a vast Ocean existed prior to


Creation.This idea is found in Ancient Mesopotamian Cosmology.
God may well have created the Universe from the Ocean using
water or mud from the Ocean bed as raw material.

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Claim 03 – The Expansion of the
Universe is described in the Koran

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Claim 03 Expansion of the Universe 1

This is said to be
a reference to
the expansion of
the Universe 1400
years ago.

"The Heaven, We have built it with power. Verily. We are


expanding it." Surah 51:47 Bucaille/Harun Yahya

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Claim 03 Expansion of the Universe 2

The word
“confines” is said
to refer to the
increasing size
of the Universe
throughout its
History.

“Company of jinn and men, if you are able to pierce through the
confines of the Heavens and Earth, pierce through them. You will
not pierce through except with a clear authority.”
Surah 55:33 Harun Yahya
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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “We have built the Heaven with might, and we it is Who
make the vast extent (thereof) & the Earth have we laid out, how
gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!”
Yusuf Ali “With power and skill did we construct the Firmament: for it
is we Who create the vastness of pace & we have spread out the
(spacious) Earth: How excellently we do spread out!”
Hilali Khan “With power did we construct the Heaven. Verily, we are
able to extend the vastness of space thereof & we have spread out
the Earth, how excellent spreader (thereof) are we!”
Shakir “& the Heaven, we raised it high with power, & most surely we
are the makers of things ample & the Earth, we have made it a wide
extent; how well have we then spread (it) out.”

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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “& we have built the Heavens with our own hands, &, verily,
we have vast powers & the Earth we have spread out,& how
excellently do we spread it out!”
Khalifa “We constructed the Sky with our hands, & we will continue to
expand it. And we made the Earth habitable; a perfect design.”
Arberry “And Heaven -- We built it with might, and we extend it wide.
And the Earth -- We spread it forth; O excellent smoothers!”
Palmer “And the Heaven - we have built it with might, and, verily, we
do surely give it ample space! And the Earth - we have spread it out;
and how well we lay it out! “

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Surah 51:47- 48 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “And the Heaven - with our hands have we built it up, and
given it its expanse; and the Earth - we have stretched it out like a
carpet; and how smoothly have we spread it forth!
Sale “We have built the Heaven with might; and we have given [it] a
large extent and we have stretched forth the Earth beneath; and how
evenly have we spread [the same]!
Irving “The Sky we have built firmly and we are extending it. The Earth
have we spread out; how blissful is the one who has smoothed it off!
Dawood “We built the Heaven with our might; giving it a vast expanse
and stretched out the Earth beneath it.Gracious is he who spread it
out.”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “O company of jinn & men, if ye have power to penetrate (all)


regions of the Heavens & the Earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will
never penetrate them save with (our) sanction.”
Yusuf Ali “O ye assembly of Jinns & men! If it be ye can pass beyond
the zones of the Heavens & the Earth, pass ye! not without authority
shall ye be able to pass!”
Hilali-Khan “O assembly of jinn's & men! If you have power to pass
beyond the zones of the Heavens & the Earth, then pass (them)! But
you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)!”
Shakir ”O assembly of the jinn & the men! If you are able to pass
through the regions of the Heavens & the Earth, then pass through;
you cannot pass through but with authority.”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “O company of jinn & men! if you have power to break
through the confines of the Heavens & the Earth, then break through
them. But you cannot break through save with authority.“
Khalifa “O you jinn's & humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits
of the Heavens & the Earth, go ahead & penetrate. You cannot
penetrate without authorization.”
Arberry “O tribe of jinn and of men, if you are able to pass through
the confines of Heaven and Earth, pass through them! You shall not
pass through except with an authority.”
Palmer “O assembly of ginns and mankind! if ye are able to pass
through the confines of Heaven and Earth then pass through them!-
ye cannot pass through save by authority! “

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “O company of djinn and men, if ye can overpass the bounds
of the Heavens and the Earth, then overpass them. But by our leave
only shall ye overpass them.“
Sale “O ye collective body of genii and men, if ye be able to pass out of
the confines of Heaven and Earth, pass forth: Ye shall not pass forth
but by absolute power.”
Irving “0 company of sprites and humankind,if you can manage to
penetrate beyond the realms of Heaven and Earth and then pass
beyond them! Yet you will only penetrate them through some authority.
Dawood “Mankind and jinn, if you have the power to penetrate the
confines of Heaven and Earth, then penetrate them! But this you shall
not do except with our own authority.”

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Response to Claim 03
1. Surah 51:47 & Surah 55:33 are very vague and neither mentions
the expansion of space.Only the Rashad Khalifa translation
comes close, but the other 11 translations contradict him.
2. The translation of Surah 51:47 that is said to describe the
expansion of the Universe is not accurate.It appears to be a
deliberate alteration of the words of the Koran. Altering the
words of the Koran is a serious sin in Islam.
3. All Surah 51:47 is saying is that the Universe is very large.There
is nothing remarkable about such a statement. Anyone can see
that it is true.
4. Surah 51:48 describes the Earth as being “spread out” implying
that it is flat.
5. Surah 55:33 is a challenge to Humanity and the Jinn to climb up
to Heaven if they can.This implies that Heaven is a place up in
the Sky.This verse says nothing about an expanding Universe.

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Surah 51:47- 48 The Koran describes the
Earth as being spread out like a Carpet

Carpets are always


Flat when they
are spread out.

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Surah 51:47- 48 Earth shown spread
out like a flat Carpet

Wide expanse of the Earth

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Surah 51:47- 48 The Earth is described
as a being “spread out” in the Koran

God is described
as spreading out
the Earth while
creating it.

Likewise a baker
spreads out
dough by
flattening it.

This may be what


the Koran means

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Surah 51:47- 48 “Spreading out” the Earth?

This dough has


been spread out
into a flat shape.

The Koran may


be describing
God spreading
out the Earth into
a flat shape in
a similar manner.

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Claim 03- Conclusion
1. There are no explicit references to an expanding Universe in
the Koran.

3. Claims to the contrary are dishonest and based on


deliberately altering the words of the Koran. This is forbidden
in Islam.

5. All that the verses in question say is that the Universe is very
big.

7. In fact, some translations of Surah 51:47-48 describe the


Earth as “wide”, “spread out” or like a “carpet.” This implies
that the Earth is flat.

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Claim 04 – The Big Crunch is
described in the Koran

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Claim 04 The Big Crunch

The Big Crunch is like the


Big Bang, only in reverse.

Some Scientists have


suggested that eventually,
the expansion of the
Universe will cease and
then reverse.

Some Muslims claims that


this is referred to in the Koran
thus proving its divine origin
& the truth of Islam.

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Claim 04 The Big Crunch

“That day we will fold up Heaven like folding up the pages of a book.
As we originated the first creation so we will regenerate it. It is a
promise binding on us. That is what we will do.”
Surah 21:104 Harun Yahya

“They do not measure Allah with his true measure. The whole Earth
will be a mere handful for him on the day of resurrection the
Heavens folded up in his right hand. Glory be to him! He is exalted
above the partners they ascribe!”
Surah 39:67 Harun Yahya

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Surah 21:104 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “The Day when we shall roll up the Heavens as a recorder


rolleth up a written scroll.”
Yusuf Ali “The Day that we roll up the Heavens like a scroll rolled up for
books. (completed”
Hilali-Khan “And (remember) the Day when we shall roll up the Heavens
like a scroll rolled up for books.”
Shakir “On the day when we will roll up Heaven like the rolling up of the
scroll for writings.”
Sher Ali “The day when we shall roll up the Heavens like the rolling up of
written scrolls by a scribe.”
Khalifa “On that day, we will fold the Heaven, like the folding of a book.”

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Surah 21:104 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “On the day when we shall roll up Heaven as a scroll is


rolled for the writings.”
Palmer “The day when we will roll up the Heavens as es-Sigill rolls
up the books.”
Rodwell “On that day we will roll up the Heaven as one rolleth up
written scrolls.”
Sale “On [that] day we will roll up the Heavens, as [the angel] al Sijil
rolleth up the book [wherein every man's actions are recorded].”
Irving “[It will be] a day when We shall roll up the Sky just as a scroll
for books is rolled up.”
Dawood “On that day we will roll up the Heaven like a roll of
parchment”

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Surah 39:67 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “When the whole Earth is His handful on the day of resurrection,
and the Heavens are rolled in his right hand.”
Yusuf Ali “On the day of judgment the whole of the Earth will be but his
handful, and the Heavens will be rolled up in his right hand.”
Hilali-Khan “And on the day of resurrection the whole of the Earth will be
grasped by his hand and the Heavens will be rolled up in his right hand.
Shakir “And the whole Earth shall be in his grip on the day of resurrection
and the Heavens rolled up in his right hand.”
Sher Ali “And the entire Earth will be under his complete control on the day
of resurrection, and the Heavens rolled up in hid right hand.”
Khalifa “The whole Earth is within his fist on the day of resurrection. In fact,
the Universes are folded within his right hand.”

Notice how Khalifa has distorted the meaning of the text & how he is out of
step with the other eleven translations.
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Surah 39:67 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “The Earth altogether shall be His handful on the day of
resurrection, and the Heavens shall be rolled up in his right hand. “
Palmer “While the Earth all of it is but a handful for him on the
resurrection day, and the Heavens shall be rolled up in his right
hand!”
Rodwell “For on the resurrection day the whole Earth shall be but his
handful, and in his right hand shall the Heavens be folded together.”
Sale “Since the whole Earth [shall be but] his handful, on the day of
resurrection; and the Heavens [shall be] rolled together in his right
hand.”
Irving “The whole Earth will lie within his grasp on resurrection day,
while Heaven will be folded up in his right hand. Glory be to him.”
Dawood “But on the day of resurrection he will hold the entire Earth in
his grasp and fold up the Heavens in his right hand.”

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Response to Claim 04
• Surah 21:104 & Surah 39:67 make no reference to countless
Galaxies of Stars falling in on each other over billions of years
as envisaged in the Big Crunch.

• What is really being described is God rolling up the solid Sky


Dome over the Flat Earth.If the Sky can be rolled up or folded
like a scroll then it must be solid.

• The Koran is describing Judgement day and not the Big


Crunch.The Big Crunch if it happens will be tens of billions of
years in the future. Islam has never taught that Judgement Day
is so far away.

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Surah 39:67/ 21:104 Solid Sky rolled up

What these
verses are
referring to
is the Sky
being rolled up
on Judgement
Day.

This suggests a
belief that the
Sky was solid.

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Claim 04 - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not refer to the Big Crunch, but rather to Judgement
Day and the Solid Sky Dome being rolled up.

3. How come, Muslims did not realise this centuries ago?Have they
been misinterpreting the Koran?

5. The belief that the Koran describes the Big Crunch is just wishful
thinking

7. These verses actually show how primitive and backward the


Cosmology of the Koran is.Rather than proving the Koran to be in
harmony with Science, they demonstrate the opposite.

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Claim 05 – The formation of Galaxies &
the Solar System is described in the Koran

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Claim 05 Formation of Galaxies and
the Solar System

Then turned He to the


Heaven when it was
smoke, and said unto
it and unto the Earth:
Come both of you,
willingly or loth.
They said: We come,
obedient.

Surah 41:11 Bucaille


& Harun Yahya

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Claim 05 Formation of Galaxies and
the Solar System

1. Modern Astronomy believes that the Galaxies and Star


Systems with Planets within them formed from huge clouds of
Gas or Nebulae.This idea was first proposed only 250 years
ago by Kant & Laplace.

3. It is claimed that Surah 41:11 agree with modern Science and


is over 1000 years ahead of its time.

5. This is said to indicate scientific foreknowledge and therefore


divine authorship for the Koran & the truth of Islam.

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Then turned He to the Heaven when it was smoke, and said
unto it and unto the Earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said:
We come, obedient.”
Yusuf Ali “Moreover He comprehended in His design the Sky, and it had
been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the Earth: "Come ye together,
willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing
obedience."
Hilali-Khan “Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the Heaven when it was
smoke, and said to it and to the Earth: "Come both of you willingly or
unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly."
Shakir “Then He directed Himself to the Heaven and it is a vapor, so He
said to it and to the Earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both
said: We come willingly.”

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “Then he turned to the Heaven, while it was something like
smoke, and said to it and to the Earth; `Come ye both of you in
obedience, willingly or unwillingly.' They said, `We come willingly.‘”
Khalifa “Then he turned to the Sky, when it was still gas, and said to
it, and to the Earth, "Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.“”
They said, "We come willingly."
Arberry “Then he lifted himself to Heaven when it was smoke, and
said to it and to the Earth, "Come willingly, or unwillingly!" They said,
"We come willingly." “
Palmer “Then he made for the Heaven and it was but smoke, and he
said to it and to the Earth, 'Come, ye two, whether ye will or no!'
They said, 'We come willingly!'“

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Surah 41:11 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “Then he applied himself to the Heaven, which then was but
smoke: and to it and to the Earth he said, "Come ye, whether in
obedience or against your will?" and they both said, "We come
obedient."
Sale “Then he set his mind to [the creation of] Heaven; and it was
smoke: And he said unto it, and to the Earth, come, either obediently,
or against your will. They answered, we come, obedient [to thy
command].
Irving “Then he soared up to Heaven while it was still a haze, and
told both it and the Earth: "Come, either obediently or reluctantly."
They both said: "We shall come willingly!"
Dawood “Then turning to the Sky, which was but a cloud of vapour,
he said to it and the Earth “Come forward both, either willingly or
perforce.””We will come willingly” they answered.”

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Response to Claim 05
1. Surah 41:11 not describe the condensation of Galaxies and Star
Systems.There are no references to any such bodies.
2. The Galaxies and their Stars condensed from Hydrogen and
Helium gas which is nothing like smoke.Smoke is the product of
Carbon burning in oxygen. There is no smoke in Outer Space.
3. Neither Carbon, Oxygen or any elements other than Hydrogen
and Helium were present at the start of the Universe.
4. The sequence of events is all wrong.Surah 41 says that God
created the Earth first and then the Sky.Modern Science says
that the Earth formed after the Galaxy and most of its stars.
5. This claim is distorting the meaning of the Koran and taking
Surah 41:11 out of context.(See next slide)

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Surah 41:9-12 (Pickthall)
“Say (O Muhammad, unto the idolaters): Disbelieve ye verily in Him Who
created the Earth in two Days, and ascribe ye unto Him rivals? He (and
none else) is the Lord of the Worlds.
He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured
therein its sustenance in four Days, alike for (all) who ask;
Then turned He to the Heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and
unto the Earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come,
obedient.
Then He ordained them seven Heavens in two Days and inspired in
each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with
lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty,
the Knower.”

The Koran says that the Earth was created at the same time or possibly
before the rest of the Universe.Modern Science says that the opposite
is true.
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Claim 05 - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not describe the formation of Galaxies or Star
Systems.Such concepts are not in the Koran

3. The order of Creation in the Koran is the opposite to that of Modern


Science.

5. Hydrogen and Helium look nothing like smoke.

7. These verses actually show how primitive and backward the


Cosmology of the Koran is.Rather than proving the Koran to be in
harmony with Science, they demonstrate the opposite.

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Claim 06 – The existence of Inter-Galactic
Nebulae is described in the Koran

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Claim 06 Inter-Galactic Nebulae

". . . the One Who created


the Heavens, the Earth and
what is between
them in six periods.“

Surah 25:59 Bucaille


& Harun Yahya

Also, Surah 20:6,Surah 32:4,


Surah 15:85, Surah 21:16 &
Surah 52:38

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Claim 06 Inter-Galactic Nebulae

1. Modern Astronomical Observations in recent years have


discovered immense clouds of Gas between the 1000 Trillion
Galaxies in the known Universe.

3. Some Muslims claims that these were referred to in the Koran


1400 years ago when it mentions things that are between
Heaven and Earth.

5. This apparent Scientific foresight is said to be proof of the


Korans divine authorship and proof that Islam is the only true
Religion.

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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between
them in six days, then He mounted the throne. The beneficent! Ask
anyone informed concerning him!”
Yusuf Ali “He who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between,
in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): God
most gracious: ask thou, then, about him of any acquainted (with such
things).”
Hilali-Khan “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & all that is between
them in six days. Then he Istawa (rose over) the throne (in a manner that
suits his majesty). The most beneficent (Allah)! Ask Him (O Prophet
Muhammad SAW), (concerning his qualities, his rising over his throne, his
creations, etc.), as he is al-khabir (The all-knower of everything i.e.
Allah).”
Shakir “Who created the Heavens & the Earth & what is between them in
six periods, and he is firmly established on the throne of authority; the
beneficent God, so ask respecting it one aware.”
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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali “He who created the Heavens and the Earth and all that is
between them in six periods, then he settled himself firmly on the
throne - the gracious, God! Ask thou then concerning him one who
knows.”
Khalifa “He is the one who created the Heavens and the Earth, and
everything between them, in six days, then assumed all authority. the
most gracious; ask about him those who are well founded in
knowledge.”
Arberry “Who created the Heavens and the Earth, and what between
them is, in six days, then sat himself upon the throne, the all-
compassionate: ask any informed of Him!”
Palmer “He who created the Heavens and the Earth, and what is
between them, in six days, and then made for the throne; the merciful
one, ask concerning him of one who is aware.”

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Surah 25:59 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “Who in six days created the Heavens and the Earth, and
whatever is between them, then mounted his Throne: the God of
mercy! Ask now of the Wise concerning Him.”
Sale “Who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and whatever is
between them, in six days; and then ascended [his] throne; the
merciful. Ask now the knowing concerning him”.
Irving “He is the one who created Heaven and Earth as well as
whatever lies in between them, in six days. Then the mercy-giving
mounted on the throne. Ask any informed (person) about Him."
Dawood “In six days, he created the Heaven and the Earth and all
that lies between them, and then ascended the throne. Ask those
who know concerning him.

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Response to Claim 06
1. Surah 25:59 makes no reference to Galaxies or Nebulae
between them.No such concepts exist in the Koran.

3. This interpretation is making the unwarranted assumption that


the Universe of the Koran is the same as the Universe of
Modern Astronomy.

5. The Universe of the Koran is not the modern Universe.The


Koran repeatedly describes a Tri-Partite Universe totally Alien to
modern Science.

7. For the true meaning of “The Heavens and the Earth and all that
is between them”, see the diagram on the next slide.

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Koran Container Universe
The Universe of the
1
Koran is a very small
place.
3 It consists of two parts
of roughly equal size &
Flat Earth the space between
them.
2 8. Heaven (Seven levels)
9. Earth (Including Hell)
Hell 10. The Space between
them.
The Sky is like the lid of
a container above a Flat
Earth

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Claim 06 - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not describe Inter-Galactic Nebulae.Such concepts
are not in the Koran

3. The Universe of the Koran consists of three parts, Firstly Heaven,


secondly Earth and thirdly what is between them.

5. The thing between Heaven (the Sky Dome) and the (Flat) Earth is
nothing more that the air above us and things such as clouds and
birds that are within it.

7. Rather than proving the Koran to be in harmony with Science, this


verse demonstrates the opposite.

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Claim 07 - Stellar Evolution is
described in the Koran

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution

"(God) subjected the sun


and the moon: each one
runs its course to an
appointed term."
Surah 13:2 Bucaille

Also Surah 31:29 ,


Surah 35;13 & Surah 39:5

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution

“When the sun is rounded


(swelling like a ball)"
"When the stars have
collapsed"
"When the oceans boil
over in a swell"
Surah 81:1,2,6

http://www.submission.org/universe.html

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Claim 07 Stellar Evolution
1. Modern Astronomy has discovered that all starts have life
cycles and that they go through stages over millions or billions
of years and then they die.
2. Some Muslims claims that this referred to in the Koran 1400
years ago when it mentions the Sun running for an appointed
term.This appointed term is said to refer to the Sun burning for
10 billions years and then dying.(Surah 13:2 )
3. Before its death billions of years in the future, the Sun will swell
up in Size and become a Red Giant Star which will destroy the
Earth.This is also said to be referred to in the Koran. (Surah
81:6 )
4. This apparent Scientific foresight is said to be proof of the
Korans divine authorship and proof that Islam is the only true
Religion.

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Allah … compelled the Sun & the Moon to be of service, each
runneth unto an appointed term; He ordereth the course; He detaileth the
revelations, that haply ye may be certain of the meeting with your lord.”
Yusuf Ali “God … has subjected the Sun & the Moon (to his law)! Each one
runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs,
explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the
meeting with your Lord”.
Hilali-Khan “Allah … has subjected the Sun & the Moon (to continue going
round)! Each running (its course) for a term appointed. He regulates all
affairs, explaining the ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs,
revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the meeting
with your Lord.”
Shakir “Allah … made the Sun & the Moon subservient (to you); each one
pursues its course to an appointed time; He regulates the affair, making
clear the signs that you may be certain of meeting your Lord.”

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali “Allah … pressed the Sun and the Moon into your service; each
planet pursues its course until an appointed term. He regulates all affairs
and he clearly explains the signs that you may have firm belief in the
meeting with your lord.”
Khalifa “God … he committed the Sun and the Moon, each running (in its
orbit) for a predetermined period. He controls all things, and explains the
revelations, that you may attain certainty about meeting your lord.”
Arberry “God … subjected the Sun and the Moon, each one running to a
term stated. He directs the affair; He distinguishes the signs; haply you
will have faith in the encounter with your lord.”
Palmer “God … subjected the Sun and the Moon; each one runs on to a
stated and appointed time; He governs the affair, details the signs;- haply
of the meeting with your lord ye will be sure.”

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “It is God who … imposed laws on the Sun and Moon: each
travelleth to its appointed goal. He ordereth all things. He maketh his
signs clear, that ye may have firm faith in a meeting with your lord.”
Sale “[It is] God who … compelled the Sun and the Moon to perform
their services: Every [of the heavenly bodies] runneth an appointed
course. He ordereth [all] things. He sheweth [his] signs distinctly, that
ye may be assured ye must meet your Lord [at the last day].”
Irving “God … regulated the Sun and Moon; each runs along on a
specific course. He directs the matter; He manifests signs so that you
may be convinced about meeting your Lord.
Dawood “God … pressed the Sun & Moon into his service, each
pursuing an appointed coarse.He ordains all things.He makes plain his
revelations so that you might firmly believe in meting your lord.”

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Before Copernicus everyone believed
in a Geocentric Universe
Nowadays, we know that the Earth is
one of several Planets in orbit around
the Sun.
This idea was first proposed by
Copernicus in 1543.Before that
everyone thought that the Sun & other
Heavenly bodies were just little lights
that moved across the Sky over a
stationary Earth at the centre of the
Universe.
It is important to remember this When
reading Astronomical References
in books from before 1543.
(Such as the Bible or Koran)

Copernicus (1473-1543)
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Response to Claim 07 (Surah 13:2 )
1. Surah 13:2 makes no reference to Stellar Evolution.The
“appointed terms” of the Sun and Moon are merely the hours of
day and night. They are not a period of billions of years.

3. The Koran, like other books from before 1543 assumes a


Geocentric Cosmology with the Sun and Moon moving around a
stationary Earth every 24 hours.

5. The Universe of the Koran is not the modern Universe.Nowhere in


the Koran is the Earth explicitly described as a Planet in orbit
around the Sun.

7. Anyone who disagrees with this interpretation needs to


demonstrate Heliocentric Cosmology in the Koran before
assuming it.

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Surah 81:1,2,6 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “When the Sun is overthrown, and when the Stars fall, And
Yusuf Ali “When the Sun (with its spacious light) is folded up; When
the Stars fall, losing their lustre; When the oceans boil over with a
swell.”
Hilali-Khan “When the Sun Kuwwirat (wound round and lost its light and
is overthrown). when the Stars shall fall; And when the seas shall
become as blazing Fire or shall overflow.”
Shakir “When the sun is covered, and when the Stars darken, and
when the seas are set on fire.”
Sher Ali “When the Sun is folded up, and when the Stars are obscured,
and when the rivers are drained away.”
Khalifa “When the Sun is rolled. The Stars are crashed into each other.
The oceans are set aflame.”

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Surah 81:1,2,6 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “When the Sun shall be darkened, when the Stars shall be
thrown down, when the seas shall be set boiling.”
Palmer “When the Sun is folded up, and when the Stars do fall, And
when the seas shall surge up.”
Rodwell “When the Sun shall be folded up, and when the Stars shall
fall, And when the seas shall boil.”
Sale “When the Sun shall be folded up; and when the Stars shall fall;
and when the seas shall boil.”
Irving “When the sun has been extinguished,when the stars slip out
of place, when the seas overflow.”
Dawood “When the Sun ceases to shine, when the Stars fall, when
the seas are set alight.”

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Response to Claim 07 (Surah 81:1,2,6 )
1. Surah 81 makes no reference to the Sun swelling up.In fact, it
refers to the Sun being extinguished.

3. These verses refer to Judgement Day and not an event billions


of years away.The timescale is all wrong.

5. Stars are describes as little objects that can fall to Earth. This
demonstrates a complete ignorance of the true nature of Stars.

7. The boiling of the Oceans cannot be due to the heat of the Sun
since it has gone out.Verse 12 implies that it is the heat of Hell
below that is causing the Oceans to boil, rather than the Sun.

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Surah 86:1
Snowball Earth
According to Surah 81:1-2
on Judgement Day, the Sun
will lose its light without
any detrimental effects
on Earth.

If such a thing happened,


the lack of heat would lead
to a rapid cooling of the
Earth and a sudden Global
Ice Age destroying all life.

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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

According to the
Koran, the Stars
are just little
lights attached to
the solid Sky.

Surah 81:1-2 says


that the Stars
will eventually fall
to the ground.

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Surah 37:6 Stars embedded in Firmament

Pickthall “Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an


ornament, the planets.”
Yusuf Ali “We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in)
the stars.”
Hilali-Khan “Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars
(for beauty).”
Shakir “Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an
adornment, the stars.”
Sher Ali “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment -
the Khalifa “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning
planets.”

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Surah 37:6 Continued

Arberry “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of
the Stars.”
Palmer “Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the
adornment of the Stars.”
Rodwell “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of
the Stars.”
Sale “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the
Stars.”
Irving “We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars
.”
Dawood “We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.”

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Claim 07 - Conclusion
1. Neither Surah 13:2 or Surah 81:1,2,6 describe the evolution or
death of the Sun – At least not if you use accurate translations
and read them in historical context.
2. Surah 13:2 means the hours of day and night when it refers to the
“appointed terms” of the Sun and Moon and not billions of years.
3. Surah 81:1,2,6 describes Judgement Day and the Sun being
extinguished without any detrimental effects on Earth.This shows
a complete ignorance of modern Science.
4. Surah 81:1,2,6 describes the Sun and Stars as little lights of
minor importance. There is no indication of how big and important
these heavenly bodies really are.
5. Rather than proving the Koran to be in harmony with Science,
these verses demonstrates the opposite.

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Claim 08 - Thermonuclear Fusion
inside Stars is described in the Koran

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Claim 08 Thermonuclear Fusion

“Allah is the light of the Heavens


and the Earth. The metaphor of
his light is that of a niche in
which is a lamp, the lamp inside
a glass, the glass like a
brilliant star, lit from a
blessed tree, an olive, neither of
the east nor of the west, its oil
all but giving off light even
if no fire touches it. Light
upon light. Allah guides to
His Light whoever He wills and
Allah makes metaphors for mankind
& Allah has knowledge of all things.”
Surah 24:35

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Surah 24:35 Checking the context

“Allah is the Light of the Heavens & the Earth. The similitude of His light
is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass
is as it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree,
an olive neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost
glow forth (of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light . Allah
guideth unto His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in
allegories, for Allah is Knower of all things.”

“(This lamp is found) in houses which Allah hath allowed to be exalted


and that His name shall be remembered therein. Therein
do offer praise to Him at morn and evening.”

Surah 24:35-36 Pickthall

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Surah 24:35 God is like the light from Oil
Lamps inside a Mosque
Surah 24:35 compares God with the Light of
an Oil lamp which burns inside a Mosque.

Islamic Fundamentalists would have us


believe that it refers to Nuclear Fusion, even
though no such thing is mentioned anywhere
in the Koran.

They argue that references to Oil Lamps


inside a Mosque do not really refer to Oil
Lamps inside a Mosque, but rather to Nuclear
Fusion inside Stars, even though there are no
References to either Stars or Fusion involved.

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Claim 08 - Conclusion
1. If this interpretation is true, then how is it that Muslims did not
discover Nuclear Fusion before Non-Muslims?

3. The wording of the verse clearly says that the words are
metaphorical or symbolic and not literal.They refer to Gods light
or spirit being in the hearts of people.This is a traditional Muslim
interpretation.

5. Surah 24:36 says that the lamp is within peoples houses and so
it cannot be a literal Star.

7. Attempting to interpret this as a reference to Nuclear Fusion is


just wishful thinking.

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Claim 09 - Nucleosynthesis of
the Elements inside Stars

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of
the Elements

“And We also sent


down iron in which
there lies great force
and which has many
uses for mankind…”

Surah 57:25
Harun Yahya

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of
Hydrogen
the Elements Helium

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Claim 09 Stellar Nucleosynthesis of
the Elements
1. Nowadays we know that apart from Hydrogen and Helium, all
Chemical Elements are Synthesised in Nuclear reactions in
Stars.
2. Surah 57:25 is said to be a reference to this, since Iron is one of
the many Elements that are created in Stars.
3. Since Nucleosynthesis was only discovered in the C20th, some
Muslims claim that its prediction in the Koran is a Scientific
Miracle.
4. Such advanced Scientific information is said to be evidence of
the Korans divine origin, since Mohammed could not possibly
have known of Nucleosynthesis in Stars 1400 years ago.
5. This is said to prove the truth of Islam.

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Surah 57:25 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “And he revealed iron, wherein is mighty power and (many)


uses for mankind.”
Yusuf Ali “And we sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war,
as well as many benefits for mankind.”
Hilali-Khan “And we brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in
matters of war), as well as many benefits for mankind,
Shakir And we have made the iron, wherein is great violence and
advantages to men.”
Sher Ali and we sent down iron, wherein is material for violent warfare
and diverse uses for mankind.”
Khalifa And we sent down the iron, wherein there is strength, and many
benefits for the people.”

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Surah 57:25 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “And we sent down iron, wherein is great might, and many
uses for men.”
Palmer “And we sent down iron in which is both keen violence and
advantages to men.”
Rodwell “And we have sent down iron. Dire evil resideth in it, as well
as advantage, to mankind!”
Sale “And we sent [them] down iron, wherein is mighty strength for
war, and [various] advantages unto mankind.”
Irving “We have sent iron down laden with grim violence as well as
(other) benefits for mankind.”
Dawood “We have sent down Iron with its mighty strength and
diverse uses for mankind.”

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Response to Claim 09 (Surah 57:25)
1. The wording of this verse is very vague.There is no mention
of any Element other than Iron and no reference to Stars.

3. All the Surah says about Iron is that it came down from the
Sky.

5. A simpler explanation is that this verse is a reference to Iron


Meteorites which were known in the Ancient World.

7. Iron from Meteorites was the oldest source of Iron that


Ancient peoples used.

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Meteoritic
Iron in
Ancient Egypt

The Ancient Egyptians knew of


Meteoritic Iron as it has been found in
their tombs.
Ancient Egyptians believed that
the Sky or Heaven was made of Iron.

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The Kaaba in Mecca – Iron sent
down from Heaven?
The famous Black Stone
in the Kaaba in Mecca
is though to be an
Iron Meteorite by
many non-Muslims.

It is believed that in
Pre-Islamic times,
Meteorites were worshiped
by local Arabs who thought
that they were sent
down from Heaven.

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Claim 09 - Conclusion
1. There is no evidence of any reference to Nucleosynthesis in
Surah 57:25.Meteoritic Iron is a more likely explanation of this
verse.

3. If the Koran is referring to Nucleosynthesis, then how come


Muslims did not discover it before non-Muslims?

5. Most of the Elements in the periodic table are not referred to in


the Koran as their existence was not known 1400 years ago.

7. Interpreting Surah 57:25 as Nucleosynthesis is just wishful


thinking.

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Claim 10 - Einstein's Theory of
Relativity mentioned in the Koran

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Claim 10 Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
Einstein discovered that time slows
down for an object travelling close
to the Speed of light.Some Muslims
claim that the Koran alluded to this
1300 years before Einstein thus
proving its divine origin.

“… A day with your Lord is equivalent


to a thousand years in the way
you count.” Surah 22:47

See also
Surah 32:5 & Surah 70:4

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “And they will bid thee hasten on the doom, and Allah faileth not
His promise, but lo! a day with Allah is as a thousand years of what ye
reckon.”
Yusuf Ali “Yet they ask thee to hasten on the punishment! But God will
not fail in his promise. Verily a day in the sight of thy lord is like a
thousand years of your reckoning.”
Hilali-Khan ”And they ask you to hasten on the torment! And Allah fails
not his promise. And verily, a day with your lord is as a thousand years
of what you reckon.”
Shakir “And they ask you to hasten on the punishment, and Allah will by
no means fail in his promise, and surely a day with your Lord is as a
thousand years of what you number.”

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “And they demand of thee to hasten on the punishment, but
Allah will never break his promise. And, verily, a day with thy Lord is
sometimes as a thousand years of your reckoning.”
Khalifa “They challenge you to bring retribution, and God never fails
to fulfil his prophecy. A day of your lord is like a thousand of your
years. “
Arberry “And they demand of thee to hasten the chastisement! God
will not fail His promise; and surely a day with thy lord is as a
thousand years of your counting.”
Palmer “They will bid thee hasten on the torment, but God will never
fail in his promise; for, verily, a day with thy lord is as a thousand
years of what ye number.”

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Surah 22:47 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “And they will bid thee to hasten the chastisement. But God
cannot fail his threat. And verily, a day with thy lord is as a thousand
years, as ye reckon them! “
Sale “They will urge thee to hasten the [threatened] punishment; but
God will not fail [to perform] what he hath threatened: And verily [one]
day with thy lord [is] as a thousand years, of those which ye
compute”.
Irving “They try to make you hurry up the torment! God will never go
back on His promise; a day with your Lord is like a thousand years
such as those you count by.”
Dawood “They bid you hasten the scourge.God will not fail his
promise.Each day of your lords is like a thousand years in your
reckoning.”

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Time Dilation in Irish Mythology.

Despite what Islamic Fundamentalists


claim, the idea of time passing at
different speeds in different places is
a theme in many Myths and Legends.

In an Irish Legend, the Hero Oisin


travels to the magical land of
Tir Na n-Og and stays for three days.
When he returns to Ireland, he is
shocked to discover that 300 years
have passed.

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Time Dilation in Japanese Mythology.

There is also a Japanese Legend


about a fisherman called
Urashima Taro who was invited to
visit the undersea palace of the
Emperor of the Sea for a couple of
days.When he returned home, he
found that 300 years had passed.

The idea that time passes slowly in


the supernatural world is found in
many cultures and not just in the Koran.

This has nothing to do with Einstein


or Relativity.

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Claim 11- The Koran accurately
gives the age of the Universe.

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Claim 11 Age of the Universe
6 days = Billions of years
“Your Lord is Allah, Who
created the Heavens and
the Earth in six days
and then settled Himself
firmly on the Throne... “
Surah 7:54

According to this claim, the


Koran correctly predicted
the age of the Universe
1400 years ago, thus proving
that it came from God.

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1 Age of Universe – Harun Yahya
Day No Duration According to this
interpretation, although
1 8 Billion years billions of years have passed
2 4 Billion years
since the beginning of the
3 2 Billion years
Universe, only six days have
4 1 Billion years
passed from Gods perspective.
5 0.5 Billion years
6 0.25 Billion years
This is said to be due to time
passing much more slowly in
Total 15.750 Billion Years
the past due to the greater
density of the Universe.

According to this interpretation,the Such accurate scientific


Koran says that the Universe is knowledge is said to indicate
15.750 Billion years old. the Korans Divine origin.

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2 Age of Universe – “Quran Miracles”
Day No Duration
According to this alternative
interpretation, the six days of
1 2.28 Billion years
2 2.28 Billion years
creation were all equal
3 2.28 Billion years periods of 2.28 Billion years.
4 2.28 Billion years This is is based on Earths
5 2.28 Billion years age of 4.5 billion years old
6 2.28 Billion years being one third the 13.7 billion
year age of the Universe.
Total 13.7 Billion Years The Koran is said to show
Earth being created in two of the
According to this second and six days of Creation.
contradictory interpretation,the
Koran says that the Universe is Therefore a day is calculated
13.7 billion years old. as being 2.28 billion years.

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3 Age of Universe – Submission.org
Day No Duration
According to this alternative
1 1 literal day interpretation, the six days of
2 1 literal day creation were literal human
3 1 literal day
days 50, 000 divine years
4 1 literal day
ago.50,000 divine years are
5 1 literal day
said to equal 18.25 billion
6 1 literal day
years, the time that has passed
7 18.25 Billion years
since the origin of the Universe.

According to this third Such accurate scientific


and contradictory interpretation,the knowledge is said to indicate
Koran says that the Universe is the Korans Divine origin.
18.25 Billion years old.

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3 Age of Universe – Submission.org

“The angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a day, the measure of which was
fifty thousand years.“
Surah 70:4
This verse refers to the ascent of angels and the spirit (meant to be Gabriel) back to heaven
after settling all matters of life in the universe. The verse clearly said a day that "was"
& not a day that 'is', which clearly indicates that that day was in the past (50,000 years ago).

"…A day relative to your God is equivalent to a thousand years of your count."
Surah 22:47
With a few simple equations:
If 1 day (for God) = 1000 years (for man)
1 year = 1000 x 365 (for man)
= 365,000 years
50,000 years (for God) = 365,000 x 50,000 (for man)
= 18.25 billion!
http://www.submission.org/universe.html

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Response to Claim 11 (Surah 7:54)
• If this claim is true, then why were Muslims not able to say what
the age of the Universe was before modern science discovered it?
• How is it that three different groups of Islamic Fundamentalists
come up with three different and contradictory interpretations of
the same verse?
• In the last few years, the age of the Universe has been accurately
measured as being 13.7 billion years old.How is it that the Koran
supposedly gives ages of 15.750 Billion years old (Harun Yahya)
& also 18.25 Billion years old? (Submission.org)
• These calculations appear to be little more than fiddling with
numbers to produce a desired outcome.
• If in a few years time, Astronomers discovered that the Universe
was in fact 50 billion years old, then no doubt, somebody would
“discover” this in the Koran as well.

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Literal days of Creation in the Hadith
Sahih Muslim Book 039, Number 6707:

“Abu Haraira reported that Allah's Messenger


(may peace be upon him) took hold of my hands and said: Allah,
the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday
and He created the mountains on Sunday
and He created the trees on Monday
and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday
and created light on Wednesday
and lie caused the animals to spread on Thursday
and created Adam (peace be upon him) after 'Asr on Friday
;the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday,
i. e. between afternoon and night”

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Al-Tabari (AD838-923)

Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari was


an important early Mulims Historian who wrote
a book on the History of the World from an
Islamic perspective.
“The History of the Prophets and Kings”
It covered the History of the World from Its Creation
to AD915.In it he claimed that Mohammed said
That the World was only about 6500 years old.

His works do not have the authority of The Koran


or Hadith, but they show how early Muslims
interpreted these books.

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How long ago was the Creation of the
Universe? (Al-Tabari )
“All these facts taken together make it clear that of the two statements I have
mentioned concerning the total extent of time, the one from Ibn Abbas, and
the other from Ka'b, the one more likely to be correct in accordance with
the information coming from the Messenger of God is that of Ibn 'Abbas
transmitted here by us on his authority: The world is one of the weeks
of the other world - seven thousand years”

"Consequently, because this is so and the report on the authority of the Messenger
of God is sound- namely, that he reported that what remained of the time of this
world during his lifetime was half a day, or five hundred years, since five
hundred years are half a day of the days, of which one is a thousand years
- the conclusion is that the time of this world that had elapsed to the moment
of the Prophet's statement corresponds to what we have transmitted on the
authority of Abu Tha'labah al-Khushani from the Prophet, and is 6,500 years or
approximately 6,500 years. God knows best!"

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Claim 11 - Conclusion
1. According to the Hadith, the Korans description of the Universe
being created in six days refer to six literal days.
2. The Hadith implies that the Universe is only a few days older than
Adam.
3. Belief in the characters of the Bible implies that they lived
thousands of years before Mohammed.Early Muslim historians
agreed with this.
4. Attempts by some Muslims to use the Day-Age theory and claims
that the Koran implies the Universe to be billions of years old are
just attempts to fiddle with numbers and rescue the Koran from
modern Science.
5. The Koran and Hadith imply that the Universe is less than 10,000
years old, just like the Bible also does.

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Claim 12 - The Electromagnetic
Spectrum is mentioned in the Koran

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Claim 12 Electromagnetic Spectrum

“Praise belongs to Allah Who created the Heavens and the


Earth and appointed darkness and light...!”
Surah 6:1 Harun Yahya

This claim is that, the Koran predicted the Electromagnetic Spectrum


1400 years ago.”Darkness” is said to refer to invisible parts of the Spectrum.
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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Praise be to Allah, who hath created the Heavens and the
Earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who
disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their lord.”
Yusuf Ali “Praise be God, who created the Heavens and the Earth,
and made the darkness and the light. Yet those who reject faith hold
(others) as equal, with their guardian-lord.”
Hilali-Khan “All praises and thanks be to Allah, who (Alone) created
the Heavens and the Earth, and originated the darkness and the
light, yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord.”
Shakir “All praise is due to Allah, who created the Heavens and the
Earth and made the darkness and the light; yet those who disbelieve
set up equals with their lord.”

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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “All praise belongs to Allah who created the Heavens and
the Earth and brought into being darkness and light; yet those who
disbelieve set up equals to their lord.”
Khalifa “Praise be to God, who created the Heavens and the Earth,
and made the darkness and the light. Yet, those who disbelieve in
their lord continue to deviate.”
Arberry “Praise belongs to God who created the Heavens and the
Earth and appointed the shadows and light; then the unbelievers
Palmer “Praise belongs to God who created the Heavens and the
Earth, and brought into being the darkness and the light. Yet do
those who misbelieve hold him to have peers.”

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Surah 6:1 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “Praise be to God, who hath created the Heavens and the
Earth, and ordained the darkness and the light! Yet unto their lord do
the infidels give peers!”
Sale “Praise be unto God, who hath created the Heavens and the
Earth, and hath ordained the darkness and the light; nevertheless
they who believe not in the lord, equalize [other gods with him].”
Irving “Praise be to God, who created Heaven and Earth and
granted darkness and light! Yet those who disbelieve make other
things equal to their lord.”
Dawood “Praise be to God who created the Heavens and the Earth
and ordained light and darkness.Yet the unbelievers set up other
gods as equals with their lord.”

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Response to Claim 12 (Surah 6:1)

1. This claim is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.This


Surah makes no reference to wavelengths of light that
cannot be seen by the naked eye.

3. The references to light and darkness are simply references


to day and night.Knowing that light and darkness exist is not
at all miraculous.

5. If the Harun Yahya’s interpretation of this verse is correct,


then how come Muslims did not discover the
Electromagnetic Spectrum hundreds of years ago?

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Zoroaster: Light and
darkness
In the C6th BC and long before the
Prophet Mohammed, the Persian
Prophet Zoroaster (or Zarathusra)
founded the religion of Zoroastrianism
which emphasised the duality of light
and darkness.Nobody ever claimed that
he was alluding to invisible parts of the
electromagnetic spectrum.

Many aspects of Islam are to be found in


Zoroastrianism and Mohammed may have
copied some of his ideas from Zoroaster.

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Claim 12 - Conclusion

The Koran does not refer to parts of the Electromagnetic spectrum


invisible to the human eye.Surah 6:1 is simply referring to day &
night. There is nothing miraculous about this.

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Claim 13 – The Koran predicted the
existence of sub-atomic particles.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles

According to this claim, the


Koran refers to the existence of
Sub-Atomic particles 1300
years before their discovery
by modern science.
Atoms were postulated by the
Ancient Greeks, but not proven
to exist until 1809.
Sub-Atomic particles were first
discovered in 1897.The
concept on the left was not
proposed until 1909.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles

“… He is the Knower of the unseen, whom not an atom's weight


eludes,either in the Heavens or in the Earth; nor is there anything
smaller or larger than that which is not in a clear book.”
Surah 34:3 Harun Yahya

“… Not even an atom's weight eludes your lord, either on Earth


or in Heaven. Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger,
which is not in a blear book.”
Surah 10:61 Harun Yahya

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles
1. The earliest concept of an Atom was of a solid indivisible particle.
This idea was proposed in India in the C6th BC.
2. In the C5th BC, the Ancient Greek Philosopher Democritus
proposed a similar idea.
3. In the C7th AD, the Koran is said to have referred to Atoms and
things smaller than Atoms which the Greeks or Indians never
mentioned.
4. In 1807, John Dalton demonstrated that Atoms are real and not
just theoretical.Dalton believed that Atoms were indivisible
though.
5. In 1897, JJ Thompson discovered the Electron, and proved the
existence of the first of many Sub-Atomic particles.
6. Thus, the Koran supposedly was centuries ahead of its time,
proving its divine origin and the truth of Islam.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles

Left; The Greek Philosopher,


Democritus (460 – 370 BC)
proposed the idea of Atoms
which were solid and
indivisible with no smaller
Particles.

The Koran is said to have


corrected the idea that Atoms
are indivisible and referred to
Sub-Atomic particles.

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Claim 13 Sub-Atomic Particles

Left;John Dalton (top) demonstrated the


existence Of Atoms in 1807 and
JJ Thompson (bottom) discovered the
Electron, the first Sub-Atomic particle
in 1897.

This is said to conforms the Koran and


prove its Divine origin.

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Not an atom's weight, or less than that or greater, escapeth


Him in the Heavens or in the Earth, but it is in a clear record.”
Yusuf Ali “From whom is not hidden the least little atom in the Heavens
or on Earth: Nor is there anything less than that, or greater, but is in the
record perspicuous.”
Hilali-Khan “Not even the weight of an atom (or a small ant) or less than
that or greater, escapes from his knowledge in the Heavens or in the
Earth, but it is in a clear book (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz).“
Shakir “Not the weight of an atom becomes absent from him, in the
Heavens or in the Earth, and neither less than that nor greater, but (all)
is in a clear book.”

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “Not an atom's weight in the Heavens or in the Earth or


anything less than that or greater escapes him, but all is recorded in
a perspicuous book.”
Khalifa “Not even the equivalent of an atom's weight is hidden from
him, be it in the Heavens or the Earth. Not even smaller than that, or
larger (is hidden). All are in a profound record."
Arberry “Not so much as the weight of an ant in Heaven and Earth
escapes from him, neither is aught smaller than that, or greater, but
it is in a manifest book.”
Palmer “Nor shall there escape from it the weight of an atom, in the
Heavens or in the Earth, or even less than that, or greater, save in
the perspicuous book.‘”

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Surah 34:3 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “Not the weight of a mote either in the Heavens or in the


Earth escapeth him; nor is there aught less than this or aught
greater, which is not in the clear Book.”
Sale The weight of an ant, either in Heaven or in Earth, is not absent
from him, nor any thing lesser than this or greater, but [the same is
written] in the perspicuous book. [of his decrees]”
Irving “No atom's weight in either Heaven nor on Earth nor anything
less than that nor larger ever escapes Him, unless it is in a clear
book.”
Dawood “Not an atoms weight in the Heaven or Earth escapes
him:Nor is there anything smaller or greater but is recorded in a
glorious book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And not an atom's weight in the Earth or in the Sky escapeth
your lord, nor what is less than that or greater than that, but it is (written)
in a clear Book.”
Yusuf Ali “Nor is hidden from thy lord (so much as) the weight of an
atom on the Earth or in Heaven. And not the least and not the greatest
of these things but are recorded in a clear record.”
Hilali-Khan “And nothing is hidden from your lord (so much as) the
weight of an atom (or small ant) on the Earth or in the Heaven. Not what
is less than that or what is greater than that but is (written) in a Clear
Record. (Tafsir At-Tabari. Vol.11, Page 129).”
Shakir “And there does not lie concealed from your lord the weight of an
atom in the Earth or in the Heaven, nor any thing less than that nor
greater, but it is in a clear book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “And there is not hidden from thy lord even an atom's weight
in the Earth or in Heaven. And there is nothing smaller than that or
greater, but it is recorded in a clear book.”
Khalifa “Not even an atom's weight is out of your lord's control, be it
in the Heavens or the Earth. Nor is there anything smaller than an
atom, or larger, that is not recorded in a profound record.
Arberry “And not so much as the weight of an ant in Earth or Heaven
escapes from thy lord, neither is aught smaller than that, or greater,
but in a manifest book.“
Palmer “Nor does the weight of an atom escape thy lord in Earth or
in Heaven; nor is there less than that or greater, but it is in the
perspicuous book.”

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Surah 10:61 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “And not the weight of an atom on Earth or in Heaven


escapeth thy lord; nor is there aught that is less than this or greater,
but it is in the perspicuous book.“
Sale “Nor is so much as the weight of an ant hidden from thy lord, in
Earth or in Heaven: Neither [is there any thing] lesser than that, or
greater, but it is [written] in the perspicuous book.”
Irving “No atom's weight escapes your lord on Earth nor in Heaven,
nor anything smaller than that nor larger, unless it is [recorded] in a
plain book.”
Dawood “Not an atoms weight in Earth or Heaven escapes your
lord, nor is there any object smaller or greater, but it is recorded in a
glorious book.”

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Epicurus and Lucretius
Ancient Greek ideas concerning Atoms were only
speculative and they had little evidence to
prove their real existence.

Although Democritus (460 – 370 BC) thought Of


Atoms as being indivisible with no smaller particles,
not everyone in the Ancient World Agreed
with him.

Epicurus (341 – 270 BC) and


Lucretius (99 – 55 BC) speculated on the
existence of particles smaller than Atoms without
any divine inspiration many centuries before
Mohammed.Such ideas were widespread
in the C7th AD.

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Ismail Ibn Kathir (AD1301–1373)

If the Koran is referring to sub-atomic


particles, then medieval Islamic scholars
Such as Ibn Kathir would have noticed this.
The next slide is what Ibn Kathir’s Tasfir
(commentary) says concerning the two
verses in question.

Ibn Kathir’s commentary is still widely


used by Muslims as a guide to interpreting
the Koran.

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Tasfir Ibn Kathir
“Nothing slips or escapes from His knowledge and observation, not even
anything the weight of a speck of dust within the heavens or earth, or
anything that is smaller or larger than that. Everything is in a manifest
Book, as Allah said.”
Ibn Kathir on Surah 10:61
“The All-Knower of the Unseen, not even the weight of a speck of dust or
less than that or greater escapes His knowledge in the heavens or in the
earth but it is in a Clear Book.”
Ibn Kathir on Surah 34:3

Ibn Kathir writing almost 700 years ago would not have had any modern
preconceptions or prejudices, yet he fails to detect any references
Sub-atomic particles in these verses.
This is because there are no such references in the verses.

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Claim 13 - Conclusion
• The Koran is not referring to modern Atomic Theory, & probably
not even to Ancient Atomic Theories either.
• The word “Atom” is not the best translation of the Arabic word
that can also mean a small ant or a dust particle.
• Even if the Koran is referring to Atoms, (which seems unlikely)
the idea of Sub-Atomic particles had been around for centuries
before Mohammed.
• Perhaps the best translation of the Arabic word translated as
“Atom” would be better translated as “the smallest thing you can
imagine.”
• Some modern translators most likely use the word “Atom” as it
is the smallest thing that they can think off.
• Either way, Surah 10:61 & 34:3 are not evidence of any Divine
authorship of the Koran.

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Claim 14 – The Koran refers to
Nuclear Fission

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Surah 6:95:Nuclear Fission

“Allah splits the seed and kernel.


He brings forth the living from
the dead,and produces the
dead out of the living. That is Allah,
so how are you misguided? “
(Surah 6:95)

This is supposed to be a reference


to Nuclear Fission.

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/predictions_14.html

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Claim 14 Nuclear Fission

1. Nowadays we know that Atoms can be split by Nuclear


Fission in an Atomic Bomb or Nuclear Reactor.
2. Such ideas were not known until the early C20th, yet we are
told that Surah 6:95 of the Koran predicted Fission 1400
years ago.
3. Such advanced Scientific information is said to be evidence
of the Korans divine origin, since Mohammed could not
possibly have known of Nucleosynthesis in Stars 1400 years
ago.
4. This is said to prove the truth of Islam and provide
compelling evidence for unbelievers to convert (or “revert”) to
Islam.

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Lo! Allah (it is) Who splitteth the grain of corn and the date-
stone (for sprouting). He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and is
the bringer-forth of the dead from the living. Such is Allah.”
Yusuf Ali “It is God Who causeth the seed-grain and the date-stone to
split and sprout. He causeth the living to issue from the dead, and He is
the one to cause the dead to issue from the living.”
Hilali-Khan “Verily! It is Allah Who causes the seedgrain and the
fruitstone (like datestone, etc.) to split and sprout. He brings forth the
living from the dead, and it is He Who brings forth the dead from the
living.”
Shakir “Surely Allah causes the grain and the stone to germinate; He
brings forth the living from the dead and He is the bringer forth of the
dead from the living; that is Allah! how are you then turned away.”

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 2

Sher Ali “Verily, it is Allah Who causes the grain and the date-stones
to sprout. He brings forth the living from the dead, and he is the
bringer forth of the dead from the living.”
Khalifa “God is the one who causes the grains and the seeds to
crack and germinate. He produces the living from the dead, and the
dead from the living."
Arberry “It is God who splits the grain and the date-stone, brings
forth the living from the dead; he brings forth the dead too from the
living.”
Palmer “Verily, God it is who cleaves out the grain and the date-
stone; he brings forth the living from the dead, and it is he who
brings the dead from the living.”

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Surah 6:95 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “Verily God causeth the grain and the date stone to put
forth: He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and the dead from
the living! This is God!“
Sale “God causeth the grain, and the date-stone to pour forth: He
bringeth forth the living from the dead, and he bringeth forth the
dead from the living.”
Irving “God is the one who splits the seed and kernel, he brings the
living from the dead, and is the one who brings the dead from the
living.”
Dawood “It is God who splits the seed and the fruit stone.He brings
forth the living from the dead and the dead from the living.”

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Claim 14 - Conclusion
1. This is one of the most absurd claims of an alleged Scientific
Miracle in the Koran.

3. It is\obvious to anyone reading Surah 6:95 and the verses


around it, that the Koran is describing the germination of seeds
and not Nuclear Fission.

5. Any farmer would know about seeds splitting during


germination.No miraculous knowledge is involved.

7. This looks like a classic example of Islamic Fundamentalists


reading things into the Koran that are not there.They have
stretched the interpretation beyond breaking point.

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Claim 15 – The Koran refers to
the existence of Anti-matter

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Claim 15 Creation in pairs = Anti-Matter

“Glory be to Him Who


created all the pairs:
from what the Earth
produces and from
themselves and from
things unknown to them.”
(Qur'an, 36:36)

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Surah 36:36 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Glory be to him who created all the sexual pairs, of that which
the Earth groweth, and of themselves, & of that which they know not!”
Yusuf Ali “Glory to God, who created in pairs all things that the Earth
produces, as well as their own (human) kind & (other) things of which
they have no knowledge.”
Hilali-Khan “Glory be to him, who has created all the pairs of that which
the Earth produces, as well as of their own (human) kind (male and
female), & of that which they know not.”
Shakir “Glory be to him who created pairs of all things, of what the Earth
grows, and of their kind & of what they do not know. “
Sher Ali “Holy is he who created all things in pairs, of what the Earth
grows & of themselves, and of what they know not.”
Khalifa “Glory be to the one who created all kinds of plants from the
Earth, as well as themselves, & other creations that they do not even
know.”
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Surah 36:36 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “Glory be to him, who created all the pairs of what the Earth
produces, and of themselves, and of what they know not.
Palmer “Celebrated be the praises of him who created all kinds, of what
the Earth brings forth, and of themselves, and what they know not of!
Rodwell “Glory be to him, who hath created all the sexual pairs of such
things as Earth produceth, and of mankind themselves; and of things
beyond their ken!
Sale “Praise be unto him who hath created all the different kinds, [both] of
[vegetables], which the Earth bringeth forth, and of their own species, [by
forming the two sexes], and also [the various sorts] of things which they
know not.
Irving “Glory be to the one who has created every kind of species such as
the Earth grows, their own kind, and even some things they do not know!
Dawood “Glory to him who made all things in pairs:the plants of the Earth,
mankind themselves and the living things which they know not.”

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Response to Claim 15 (Surah 36:36 )
1. Surah 36 makes no reference to Antimatter, just a vague
reference to male and female living things.

3. The concepts of matter and anti-matter are nowhere in the


Koran.

5. Interpreting male and female as matter and anti-matter means


reading things into the Koran that are not there.

7. You might just as well say that the I-Ching is divinely inspired as
it refers to “Yin” and “Yang” which could be interpreted as matter
and anti-matter.

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Surah 36:36 Creation in pairs

There are no references to anti-matter here – just a


reference to God creating male and female living things.

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Yin and Yang
It is conceivable that Taoists
might claim that the
references to “Yin” & “Yang”
in the I-Ching which was
written 1000 years before
the Koran really refer to
matter & antimatter.

This, it might be claimed


is evidence that the I-Ching
is divinely inspired & that we
should all become Taoists.

This is no more ridiculous than


similar claims made for the
Koran.
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Claim 15 - Conclusion
• The Koran is not referring to modern anti-matter any more than
the I-Ching is.

• Such interpretations are just a fantasy in the minds of Islamic


Fundamentalists.

• Surah 36:36 is just describing the existence of male and female


animals which is obvious for all to see.

• This is yet another false claim of a Scientific Miracle in the


Koran.

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Claim 16 - The Koran refers to the
existence of Parallel Universes.

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Claim 16 Parallel Universes

“We created above you seven Universes


in layers, and we are never unaware
of a single creature in them.” Surah 23:17

“He created seven Universes in layers.


You do not see any imperfection in the
creation by the Most Gracious. Keep
looking;do you see any flaw?” Surah 67:3

“Do you not realize that God created


seven Universes in layers?”
Surah 71:15

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Claim 16 Parallel Universes
• In recent years, a growing number of Scientists are
suggesting that there is a considerable amount of theoretical
evidence for the existence of Parallel Universes.
• However, Surah 23:17, 67:3 & 71:15 in the Koran mentioned
the existence of Parallel Universes 1400 years ago.
• Surely, it is argued, a simple illiterate man such as
Mohammed could not possibly have known such advanced
scientific ideas so long ago unless God had revealed them to
him?
• Such advanced scientific ideas, it is argued prove the divine
authorship of the Koran and the truth of Islam
• In the light of such an overwhelming scientific miracles,
unbelievers should convert (or “revert”) to Islam

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Surah 23:17 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And we have created above you seven paths, and we are
never unmindful of creation.”
Yusuf Ali “And we have made, above you, seven tracts; and We are
never unmindful of (our) Creation”.
Hilali-Khan “And indeed we have created above you seven Heavens
(one over the other), and We are never unaware of the creation.”
Shakir “And certainly we made above you seven Heavens; and never
are We heedless of creation”.
Sher-Ali “And we have created above you seven ways, and we are never
neglectful of the creation.
Khalifa “We created above you seven Universes in layers, and we are
never unaware of a single creature in them.”

Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word
“Universe” in order to sound scientific.
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Surah 23:17 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “And we created above you seven ways, and we were not
heedless of creation.”
Palmer “And we have created above you seven roads; nor are we
heedless of the creation.”
Rodwell “And we have created over you seven Heavens: - and we are
not careless of the creation”.
Sale “And we have created over you seven Heavens: and we are not
negligent of what we have created.”
Irving “We have created seven orbits above you; we have not been
heedless about creation.”
Dawood “We have created seven Heavens above you:Of our creation,
we are never heedless.”

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Surah 67:3 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Who hath created seven Heavens in harmony. Thou
(Muhammad) canst see no fault in the beneficent one's creation.”
Yusuf Ali “He who created the seven Heavens one above another: No
want of proportion wilt thou see in the creation of (God) most gracious.”
Hilali-Khan “Who has created the seven Heavens one above another,
you can see no fault in the creations of the most beneficent.”
Shakir “Who created the seven Heavens one above another; you see no
incongruity in the creation of the beneficent God.”
Sher-Ali “Who has created seven Heavens in harmony. No incongruity
canst thou see in the creation of the gracious God.”
Khalifa “He created seven Universes in layers. You do not see any
imperfection in the creation by the most gracious.”

Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word
“Universe” in order to sound scientific.
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Surah 67:3 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “Who created seven Heavens one upon another. Thou seest not
in the creation of the all-merciful any imperfection.”
Palmer “Who created seven Heavens in stories; thou canst not see any
discordance in the creation of the merciful!
Rodwell “Who hath created seven Heavens one above another: No
defect canst thou see in the creation of the God of mercy
Sale “Who hath created seven Heavens, one above another: Thou canst
not see in a creature of the most merciful any unfitness or disproportion.
Irving “Who created seven matching Heavens. You do not see any
discrepancy in the mercy-giving's creation
Dawood “He created seven Heavens, one above the other.You will not
see a flaw in the merciful’s creation.”

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Surah 71:15 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “See ye not how Allah hath created seven Heavens in
harmony.”
Yusuf Ali "'See ye not how God has created the seven Heavens one
above another.”
Hilali-Khan “See you not how Allah has created the seven Heavens one
above another.”
Shakir “Do you not see how Allah has created the seven Heavens, one
above another.”
Sher-Ali “See you not how Allah has created seven Heavens in perfect
harmony.”
Khalifa “Do you not realize that God created seven Universes in layers?”

Notice how only one translation out of 12 dishonestly uses the word
“Universe” in order to sound scientific.
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Surah 71:15 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “Have you not regarded how God created seven Heavens one
upon another.”
Palmer “Do ye not see how God has created the seven Heavens in
stories.”
Rodwell “See ye not how God hath created the seven Heavens one over
the other?”
Sale “Do ye not see how God hath created the seven Heavens, one
above another.”
Irving “Have you not (all) considered how God created seven matching
Heavens?”
Dawood “Can you not see how God created the seven Heavens, one
above the other?”

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Response to Claim 16
• From reading 12 translations of Surah 23:17, 67:3 & 71:15 it can
be seen that only one translation uses the word “Universe.”

• This one translation is clearly inaccurate as it is contradicted by


the other 11 translations.

• It appears that the Khalifa translation is trying to distort the


translation in order to make the Koran sound more scientific and
modern than it really is.

• This is a classic example of rewriting the Koran to make it say


things that are not really in it.

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7
Surah 17:1
6
5
Mohammed in the
4
Seven Heavens
3 This traditional Islamic
painting shows Mohammed
2 visiting the seven Heavens
which are up in the Sky
1
These are portrayed as seven
solid layers in the Sky where
good Muslims go when they
die.The Hadith and Koran
support this view of seven
Heavens

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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens
Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429
Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was
brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven.
Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked,
'Who is it?' He said, 'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?'
Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel
said, 'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' Then I
met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,
'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said, 'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has
he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful
visit his is!" Then I met Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O
brother and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,
'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' It was asked,
'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel. 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit
his is!' (The Prophet added:). There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied,
'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet!' (Continued on next slide)
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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens
Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429 (Continued from previous slide)
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris and
greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted
Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I
proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he
said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise
in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted
Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then I was shown
Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House).

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Seven Heavens above the Earth
Al-Tirmidhi 5735
He then asked, "Do you know what is above you?" On their replying that
Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the
firmament, a ceiling which is guarded and waves which are kept back." He
then asked, "Do you know what is between you and it?" On their replying
that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,
"Between you and it are five hundred years." He then asked, "Do you knew
what is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace
be upon him) best he said, "Two heavens with a distance of five hundred
years between them." He went on speaking like that till he counted seven
heavens, the distance between each pair being like between Heaven and
Earth. He then asked, "Do you know what is above that?" On their replying
that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,
"Above that is the Throne, and the distance between it and the (seventh)
heaven is the same as that between each pair of heavens."
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7
6
Names of the
5 Seven Heavens
4

3 The Seven Heavens of Islam


Number Name Description

2 1st Heaven Rafi' (‫ع( یرف‬ Heaven of Adam


2nd Heaven Qaydum (‫دوم( یق‬ Heaven of John
1 3rd Heaven Marum (‫)ماروم‬ Heaven of Joseph
4th Heaven Arfalun (‫)أرفللللللون‬ Heaven of Idris
5th Heaven Hay'oun (‫)هيللعلون‬ Heaven of Aaron
6th Heaven Arous (‫)عروس‬ Heaven of Moses
7th Heaven Ajma' (‫)عجماء‬ Heaven of Abraham

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens

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Parallel Universes
in Hinduism
In Hinduism, unlike Islam, there
really are Parallel Universes.

Here the God Vishnu sleeps in


the Casual Ocean and his
dreams create parallel
Universes including our own.

You will not find Islamic


Fundamentalists claiming that
the Hindu Scriptures are
divinely inspired though.

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Conclusion Conclusion for Koran Science
& Cosmology (Part 1)
1. This Presentation has examined 16 examples of alleged
Scientific Miracles in the Koran and found them to be totally
unconvincing.
2. The “evidence” for Scientific Miracles in these 16 examples
does not stand up to scrutiny.
3. This “evidence” is based on vague phrases, dishonest or
inaccurate translations,taking verses out of context, fiddling with
numbers & ignoring the most obvious or traditional
interpretation.
4. Different Fundamentalists can make the same vague few words
mean completely different & contradictory things.
5. These 16 examples do not support claims of Scientific Miracles
in the Koran.More examples are examined in the next
Presentation.

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Continued on next Presentation ……

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