Schrdinger Equation from

Lorentz Transformation
Exploring the Connections between
Relativity and Quantum Physics
PIRT 2007, Budapest, 2007-09-09,
Janne Karimki,
Helsinki University of Technology

Basic Equations
) SR (
) QM (
2
0 0
0 0
c m E
h f E

Sea of identical clocks, cycle

Frequency

Particle with rest mass

Sea of Clocks and a Particle
h E f /
0 0

2
0 0
/ c E m
0 0
/ 1 f T

Lorentz Boost

Lorentz boost to velocity in the direction

of x axis
v
v

Lorentz Boost

Coordinate transformation:

where

'

], ) / ( [
] [
2
x c v t t
vt x x

2 2
/ 1 / 1 c v

Lorentz Boost

Time lag, when grows in:

Waves appear in space

] ) / ( [
2
x c v t t

x
axis x

Wavelength and Frequency of
Waves in Sea of Clocks
h E h E f f
p h mv h v m h L
/ /
/ ) /( ) /(
0 0
0

Can be calculated fairly easily from SR:

Perfect agreement with QM

Sea of Clocks to Free Particle
Wave Function





E i E
p i p
i E i p
e
t
t
p x Et i

/ ] [

Schrdinger Equation
+


+

+
V
m
i
p p V
m
p
E
V
m
p
E V
m
p
E
t
0
2 2
2 2
0
2
0
2
0
2
2
)

(
2

2 2

Klein-Gordon Equation

+
+
+
4 2
0
2 2 2 2 2
2 2
0
2 2
2 2
0
2 2
2 2
0
2 2
) ( )

) ( ) (
) ( ) (
c m c
c m c p E
c m pc E
c m pc E
t


Hydrodynamical QM
) ic Relativist ( Re Re
) istic Nonrelativ ( Re
1 1
(Density) ) (
) Real & ( ,
2 2
0 0 0
2 / 1

t
t
i
c
i i
c v
m
i
m
p
m
v
x P
e

,
_

,
_

,
_

Hydrodynamical QM
( )
( )

'

+ +

,
_

2 / 1
2 / 1 2
0
2
0
2
0
2
2

m
Q
Q V
m
m
t
t

Generalizing SE and KGE to
arbitrary potentials and wave
functions

Locality of the energy and momentum

operators:

Complex energy and momentum defined:

For plane waves:

'

. / ) ( / )

( :
/ ) ( / )

( :
t c
c
i E E
i p p

t
i E i p
E E p p
c c
,

Some Considerations

Planck & Lorentz to QM waves

Taking the local velocity seriously (no

Heisenberg uncertainty, de Broglie-Bohm)

Taking the fluid density seriously

(Hydrodynamical QM, Madelung)

Sea of clocks ~ Sea of particles?

(Hydrodynamical QM, Quantum Aether)

Superfluids as analogy

Some Considerations

Linearity, Superpositions?

Non-locality

New equations? Relativistic Quantum

Physics? Dirac Equation?

Quantum Field Theory?

Non-relativistic vs. relativistic (geometric)

velocity?

SR first QM first?

Thank you!

Logical Sequence
Sea of Synchronized Clocks
Lorentz Transformation
Taking Local Quantities Seriously
HDQM, DBB

Particle vs. Wave
Velocity v c
2
/v
Frequency
-1
f
0
f
0
Energy m
0
c
2
???
Momentum m
0
v ???

Calculation of Wavelength of Sea
of Clocks
p h mv h v m h L
c m h L c v
L x x
t t
c m h x c v t x c v t
c m h E h T t t
/ ) /( ) /(
) /( ) / (
) /( ] ) / ( [ ] ) / ( [
) /( / / 1
0
2
0
2
1 2
2 1
2
0 2
2
2 1
2
1
2
0 0 0 0 2 1